Spy Sweeper vs. Spybot Search and Destroy

July 29, 2008

I have both of the programs mentioned in the subject and have doubts

that there may be conflicts between the two. I have two questions:

first, are my doubts well founded; second, if so, which should I choose

to continue. I am posting in this ng although I'm trying to use Vista,

as a result of my XP machine suffering a hardware meltdown; the

equivalent Vista ng is populated with a huge number of crackpots,

weirdos and plain old lunatics; it makes it hard to ask a question there

and get an answer that can be trusted. On the other hand, this ng is

full of very helpful people. Thanks for any help.

Allen

July 29, 2008

Re: Spy Sweeper vs. Spybot Search and Destroy

There is no problem using both, however, you should disable Spybot's "Tea Timer".

ju.c

"Allen" <allent@austin.rr.com> wrote in message

news:3JmdnRUOFr4V4hPVnZ2dnUVZ_ojinZ2d@giganews.com...

> I have both of the programs mentioned in the subject and have doubts that there may be

> conflicts between the two. I have two questions: first, are my doubts well founded;

> second, if so, which should I choose to continue. I am posting in this ng although I'm

> trying to use Vista, as a result of my XP machine suffering a hardware meltdown; the

> equivalent Vista ng is populated with a huge number of crackpots, weirdos and plain old

> lunatics; it makes it hard to ask a question there and get an answer that can be

> trusted. On the other hand, this ng is full of very helpful people. Thanks for any help.

> Allen

July 29, 2008

Re: Spy Sweeper vs. Spybot Search and Destroy

....if you don't fully understand what it does and how it does it.

ju.c wrote:

> There is no problem using both, however, you should disable Spybot's "Tea

> Timer".

>

> ju.c

>

> "Allen" <allent@austin.rr.com> wrote in message

> news:3JmdnRUOFr4V4hPVnZ2dnUVZ_ojinZ2d@giganews.com...

>> I have both of the programs mentioned in the subject and have doubts that

>> there may be conflicts between the two. I have two questions: first, are

>> my doubts well founded; second, if so, which should I choose to continue.

>> I am posting in this ng although I'm trying to use Vista, as a result of

>> my XP machine suffering a hardware meltdown; the equivalent Vista ng is

>> populated with a huge number of crackpots, weirdos and plain old

>> lunatics;

>> it makes it hard to ask a question there and get an answer that can be

>> trusted. On the other hand, this ng is full of very helpful people.

>> Thanks

>> for any help. Allen

July 29, 2008

Re: Spy Sweeper vs. Spybot Search and Destroy

On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:25:11 -0500, Allen wrote:

> I have both of the programs mentioned in the subject and have doubts

> that there may be conflicts between the two. I have two questions:

> first, are my doubts well founded; second, if so, which should I choose

> to continue. I am posting in this ng although I'm trying to use Vista,

> as a result of my XP machine suffering a hardware meltdown; the

> equivalent Vista ng is populated with a huge number of crackpots,

> weirdos and plain old lunatics; it makes it hard to ask a question there

> and get an answer that can be trusted. On the other hand, this ng is

> full of very helpful people. Thanks for any help.

Have a look at this:

http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm

and be guided accordingly.

Good info can be obtained here:

http://www.majorgeeks.com/page.php?id=20

and here:

http://www.av-comparatives.org/

If the above is too deluging consider this:-

Real-time AV applications - for viral malware.

Do not utilize more than one (1) real-time anti-virus scanning engine!

Disable the e-mail scanning function during installation (Custom

Installation on some AV apps.) as it provides no additional protection.

Why You Don't Need Your Anti-Virus Program to Scan Your E-Mail

http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tutorials/email-scanning/index.htm

Viral Irony: The Most Common Cause of Corruption.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/community/columns/filecorruption.mspx

Avira AntiVir® Personal - FREE Antivirus

http://www.free-av.com/

You may wish to consider removing the 'AntiVir Nagscreen'

http://www.elitekiller.com/files/disable_antivir_nag.htm

or

Free antivirus - avast! 4 Home Edition

It includes ANTI-SPYWARE protection, certified by the West Coast Labs

Checkmark process, and ANTI-ROOTKIT DETECTION based on the best-in class

GMER technology.

http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html

(Choose Custom Installation and under Resident

Protection, uncheck: Internet Mail and Outlook/Exchange.)

or

AVG Anti-Virus Free Edition

http://free.grisoft.com/

(Choose custom install and untick the email scanner plugin.)

or

ESET NOD32 Antivirus - Not Free

http://www.eset.com/

or

Kaspersky® Anti-Virus 7.0 - Not Free

http://www.kaspersky.com/homeuser

and (optional but highly recommendable)

On-demand AV applications.

(add them to your arsenal and use them as a "second opinion" av scanner).

David H. Lipman's MULTI_AV Tool

http://www.pctipp.ch/ds/28400/28470/Multi_AV.exe

http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

English:

http://www.raymond.cc/blog/archives/2008/01/09/scan-your-computer-with-multiple-anti-virus-for-free/

Additional Instructions:

http://pcdid.com/Multi_AV.htm

and/or

BitDefender10 Free Edition (*NOT FOR VISTA*)

http://www.bitdefender.com/PRODUCT-14-en--BitDefender-8-Free-Edition.html

Kaspersky's AVPTool

http://downloads5.kaspersky-labs.com/devbuilds/AVPTool/

There's no updating involved since the scanning engine is updated

several times a day and you simply download the updated scanner whenever

you want to do a scan.

Dr.Web CureIt!® Utility - FREE

http://www.freedrweb.com/cureit/

Malwarebytes© Corporation - Anti-Malware

http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam/program/mbam-setup.exe

Note: It is Free for private use. Just download (do NOT buy) and install.

A-S applications - for non-viral malware.

The effectiveness of an individual A-S scanners can be wide-ranging and

oftentimes a collection of scanners is best. There isn't one software that

cleans and immunizes you against everything. That's why you need multiple

products to do the job i.e. overlap their coverage - one may catch what

another may miss, (grab'em all).

SuperAntispyware - Free

http://www.superantispyware.com/superantispywarefreevspro.html

and

Ad-Aware 2007 - Free

http://www.lavasoftusa.com/products/ad_aware_free.php

http://www.download.com/3000-2144-10045910.html

and

Spybot Search & Destroy - Free

http://www.safer-networking.org/en/download/index.html

and

Windows Defender - Free (build-in in Vista)

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx

WD monitors the start-registry and hooks registers/files to prevent spyware

and worms to install to the OS.

Interesting reading:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,136195/article.html

"...Windows Defender did excel in behavior-based protection, which detects

changes to key areas of the system without having to know anything about

the actual threat."

A clarification on the terminology: the word "malware" is short for

"malicious software." Most Anti-Virus applications detect many types of

malware such as viruses, worms, trojans, etc.

What AV applications usually don't detect is "non-viral" malware, and the

term "non-viral malware" is normally used to refer to things like spyware

and adware.

Good luck :)

July 29, 2008

Re: Spy Sweeper vs. Spybot Search and Destroy

I'm one of those who long ago disabled Tea Timer because it was causing me

grief. Where can I learn how to use it correctly?

Jeff

PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:

> ...if you don't fully understand what it does and how it does it.

>

> ju.c wrote:

>> There is no problem using both, however, you should disable Spybot's

>> "Tea Timer".

>>

>> ju.c

>>

>> "Allen" <allent@austin.rr.com> wrote in message

>> news:3JmdnRUOFr4V4hPVnZ2dnUVZ_ojinZ2d@giganews.com...

>>> I have both of the programs mentioned in the subject and have

>>> doubts that there may be conflicts between the two. I have two

>>> questions: first, are my doubts well founded; second, if so, which

>>> should I choose to continue. I am posting in this ng although I'm

>>> trying to use Vista, as a result of my XP machine suffering a

>>> hardware meltdown; the equivalent Vista ng is populated with a huge

>>> number of crackpots, weirdos and plain old lunatics;

>>> it makes it hard to ask a question there and get an answer that can

>>> be trusted. On the other hand, this ng is full of very helpful

>>> people. Thanks

>>> for any help. Allen

July 29, 2008

Re: Spy Sweeper vs. Spybot Search and Destroy

Hi Bear.

A lot of people have apparently had problems when Tea Timer is active. I

was one of them and had to deactivate it long ago though I now no longer

recall what the problem was.

What does one need to know to use Tea Timer (wierd name) without running

into problems or conflicts?

Jeff

PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:

> ...if you don't fully understand what it does and how it does it.

>

> ju.c wrote:

>> There is no problem using both, however, you should disable Spybot's

>> "Tea Timer".

>>

>> ju.c

>>

>> "Allen" <allent@austin.rr.com> wrote in message

>> news:3JmdnRUOFr4V4hPVnZ2dnUVZ_ojinZ2d@giganews.com...

>>> I have both of the programs mentioned in the subject and have

>>> doubts that there may be conflicts between the two. I have two

>>> questions: first, are my doubts well founded; second, if so, which

>>> should I choose to continue. I am posting in this ng although I'm

>>> trying to use Vista, as a result of my XP machine suffering a

>>> hardware meltdown; the equivalent Vista ng is populated with a huge

>>> number of crackpots, weirdos and plain old lunatics;

>>> it makes it hard to ask a question there and get an answer that can

>>> be trusted. On the other hand, this ng is full of very helpful

>>> people. Thanks

>>> for any help. Allen

July 29, 2008

Re: Spy Sweeper vs. Spybot Search and Destroy

On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:25:11 -0500, Allen <allent@austin.rr.com>

wrote:

>I have both of the programs mentioned in the subject and have doubts

>that there may be conflicts between the two. I have two questions:

>first, are my doubts well founded; second, if so, which should I choose

>to continue. I am posting in this ng although I'm trying to use Vista,

>as a result of my XP machine suffering a hardware meltdown; the

>equivalent Vista ng is populated with a huge number of crackpots,

>weirdos and plain old lunatics; it makes it hard to ask a question there

>and get an answer that can be trusted. On the other hand, this ng is

>full of very helpful people. Thanks for any help.

>Allen

There are separate versions of Spy Sweeper that work for Vista. I use

both Spy Sweeper (all shields enabled) and Spybot but the resident

Tea-Timer in Spybot is disabled. No problems in XP. To get a

straight answer you might want to contact the makers of Spy Sweeper.

July 29, 2008

Re: Spy Sweeper vs. Spybot Search and Destroy

1. Make sure it's been fully disabled. See

http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=32409

2. You can ask about Tea Timer in Spybot Forums:

http://forums.spybot.info/forumdisplay.php?f=4

--

~PA Bear

Jeff@unknown.com wrote:

> I'm one of those who long ago disabled Tea Timer because it was causing me

> grief. Where can I learn how to use it correctly?

>

> Jeff

>

> PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:

>> ...if you don't fully understand what it does and how it does it.

>>

>> ju.c wrote:

>>> There is no problem using both, however, you should disable Spybot's

>>> "Tea Timer".

>>>

>>> ju.c

>>>

>>> "Allen" <allent@austin.rr.com> wrote in message

>>> news:3JmdnRUOFr4V4hPVnZ2dnUVZ_ojinZ2d@giganews.com...

>>>> I have both of the programs mentioned in the subject and have

>>>> doubts that there may be conflicts between the two. I have two

>>>> questions: first, are my doubts well founded; second, if so, which

>>>> should I choose to continue. I am posting in this ng although I'm

>>>> trying to use Vista, as a result of my XP machine suffering a

>>>> hardware meltdown; the equivalent Vista ng is populated with a huge

>>>> number of crackpots, weirdos and plain old lunatics;

>>>> it makes it hard to ask a question there and get an answer that can

>>>> be trusted. On the other hand, this ng is full of very helpful

>>>> people. Thanks

>>>> for any help. Allen

July 29, 2008