Guest Mist Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 Windows XP SP2 Picked up the remote control, turned on the TV, computer shut down totally dumping a screen full of spreadsheets. Gotta love that. Previously, the monitor has just flickered and reset itself. It is sporadic. I haven't been able to discern a specific item that I'm doing when it happens. I had thought that it might be the scanner so removed it. Obviously it wasn't. I've asked the IT folk at work, electrician, my computer guru - all are lost. HALP! (an upgraded "help"). Suggestions, thoughts, updated Ouija boards.... Mist --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 080728-0, 07/28/2008 Tested on: 7/29/2008 7:42:57 AM avast! - copyright © 1988-2008 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com
Guest Big_Al Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 Re: This cuts it Mist wrote: > Windows XP SP2 > > Picked up the remote control, turned on the TV, computer shut down totally > dumping a screen full of spreadsheets. Gotta love that. > > Previously, the monitor has just flickered and reset itself. > > It is sporadic. I haven't been able to discern a specific item that I'm > doing when it happens. > > I had thought that it might be the scanner so removed it. Obviously it > wasn't. > > I've asked the IT folk at work, electrician, my computer guru - all are > lost. > > HALP! (an upgraded "help"). > > Suggestions, thoughts, updated Ouija boards.... > > Mist > > > --- > avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 080728-0, 07/28/2008 > Tested on: 7/29/2008 7:42:57 AM > avast! - copyright © 1988-2008 ALWIL Software. > http://www.avast.com > > > Maybe the TV set you have draws too much power or caused a surge and the computer just caught the worst end of it.
Guest R. McCarty Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 Re: This cuts it Maybe an inexpensive UPS ( Universal Power Supply ) might help. Are the Television and computer equipment sharing ( or plugged ) into the same outlet or power strip ? For a Television to cause that kind of line voltage drop, I'd have the wiring checked and call your power company and have your line checked out. "Big_Al" <BigAl@md.com> wrote in message news:OmAMXHX8IHA.2336@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Mist wrote: >> Windows XP SP2 >> >> Picked up the remote control, turned on the TV, computer shut down >> totally dumping a screen full of spreadsheets. Gotta love that. >> >> Previously, the monitor has just flickered and reset itself. >> >> It is sporadic. I haven't been able to discern a specific item that I'm >> doing when it happens. I had thought that it might be the scanner so >> removed it. Obviously it wasn't. >> >> I've asked the IT folk at work, electrician, my computer guru - all are >> lost. >> >> HALP! (an upgraded "help"). Suggestions, thoughts, updated Ouija >> boards.... >> >> Mist >> >> >> --- >> avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. >> Virus Database (VPS): 080728-0, 07/28/2008 >> Tested on: 7/29/2008 7:42:57 AM >> avast! - copyright © 1988-2008 ALWIL Software. >> http://www.avast.com >> >> >> > Maybe the TV set you have draws too much power or caused a surge and the > computer just caught the worst end of it.
Guest philo Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 Re: This cuts it "Big_Al" <BigAl@md.com> wrote in message news:OmAMXHX8IHA.2336@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Mist wrote: > > Windows XP SP2 > > > > Picked up the remote control, turned on the TV, computer shut down totally > > dumping a screen full of spreadsheets. Gotta love that. > > > > Previously, the monitor has just flickered and reset itself. > > > > It is sporadic. I haven't been able to discern a specific item that I'm > > doing when it happens. > > > > I had thought that it might be the scanner so removed it. Obviously it > > wasn't. > > > > I've asked the IT folk at work, electrician, my computer guru - all are > > lost. > > > > HALP! (an upgraded "help"). > > > > Suggestions, thoughts, updated Ouija boards.... > > > > Mist > > > > > > Maybe the TV set you have draws too much power or caused a surge and the > computer just caught the worst end of it. A possibility. Try putting the computer on a UPS. A UPS is always a good idea. Even a smaller one for computer only should be OK
Guest Michael A. Loginov Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 Re: This cuts it And what about to turn TV on without remote control? As I know there is something like remote control for PC - can it interact with TV remote control? On 29.07.08 16:06, in article eaHPULX8IHA.4608@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl, "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote: > > "Big_Al" <BigAl@md.com> wrote in message > news:OmAMXHX8IHA.2336@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Mist wrote: >>> Windows XP SP2 >>> >>> Picked up the remote control, turned on the TV, computer shut down > totally >>> dumping a screen full of spreadsheets. Gotta love that. >>> >>> Previously, the monitor has just flickered and reset itself. >>> >>> It is sporadic. I haven't been able to discern a specific item that I'm >>> doing when it happens. >>> >>> I had thought that it might be the scanner so removed it. Obviously it >>> wasn't. >>> >>> I've asked the IT folk at work, electrician, my computer guru - all are >>> lost. >>> >>> HALP! (an upgraded "help"). >>> >>> Suggestions, thoughts, updated Ouija boards.... >>> >>> Mist >>> >> > > >>> >> Maybe the TV set you have draws too much power or caused a surge and the >> computer just caught the worst end of it. > > > A possibility. > Try putting the computer on a UPS. A UPS is always a good idea. > > Even a smaller one for computer only should be OK > >
Guest Draggonfodder Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 Re: This cuts it -- John Nagle "Mist" <pequod@spam.com> wrote in message news:Xns9AEA4E7D8C5BFpequodispcom@207.46.248.16... > Windows XP SP2 > > Picked up the remote control, turned on the TV, computer shut down totally > dumping a screen full of spreadsheets. Gotta love that. > > Previously, the monitor has just flickered and reset itself. > > It is sporadic. I haven't been able to discern a specific item that I'm > doing when it happens. > > I had thought that it might be the scanner so removed it. Obviously it > wasn't. > > I've asked the IT folk at work, electrician, my computer guru - all are > lost. > > HALP! (an upgraded "help"). > > Suggestions, thoughts, updated Ouija boards.... > > Mist > > > --- > avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 080728-0, 07/28/2008 > Tested on: 7/29/2008 7:42:57 AM > avast! - copyright © 1988-2008 ALWIL Software. > http://www.avast.com > > > Sounds like you have a corroded or loose ground on one of your outlets on that particular ckt breaker. Trip the breaker and look at all the outlets to make sure the wires are all screwed in tight. All it takes is one loose wire to mess up a computer. John
Guest Unknown Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 Re: This cuts it Go to a hardware or electronics supply store and buy an AC circuit tester. You plug it into any outlet and it will tell you the condition of the outlet. I.E. no ground, no 'good' neutral, etc. etc. They cost about $6.00. "Mist" <pequod@spam.com> wrote in message news:Xns9AEA4E7D8C5BFpequodispcom@207.46.248.16... > Windows XP SP2 > > Picked up the remote control, turned on the TV, computer shut down totally > dumping a screen full of spreadsheets. Gotta love that. > > Previously, the monitor has just flickered and reset itself. > > It is sporadic. I haven't been able to discern a specific item that I'm > doing when it happens. > > I had thought that it might be the scanner so removed it. Obviously it > wasn't. > > I've asked the IT folk at work, electrician, my computer guru - all are > lost. > > HALP! (an upgraded "help"). > > Suggestions, thoughts, updated Ouija boards.... > > Mist > > > --- > avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 080728-0, 07/28/2008 > Tested on: 7/29/2008 7:42:57 AM > avast! - copyright © 1988-2008 ALWIL Software. > http://www.avast.com > > >
Guest Twayne Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 Re: This cuts it > Windows XP SP2 > > Picked up the remote control, turned on the TV, computer shut down > totally dumping a screen full of spreadsheets. Gotta love that. > > Previously, the monitor has just flickered and reset itself. > > It is sporadic. I haven't been able to discern a specific item that > I'm doing when it happens. > > I had thought that it might be the scanner so removed it. Obviously it > wasn't. > > I've asked the IT folk at work, electrician, my computer guru - all > are lost. > > HALP! (an upgraded "help"). > > Suggestions, thoughts, updated Ouija boards.... > > Mist > > > --- > avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 080728-0, 07/28/2008 > Tested on: 7/29/2008 7:42:57 AM > avast! - copyright © 1988-2008 ALWIL Software. > http://www.avast.com Are the TV and computer on the same ckt breaker? Try putting one on a different breaker and see if that helps. TVs auto-degauss these days which creates some huge emf back into the line. HTH
Guest Paul Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 Re: This cuts it Mist wrote: > Windows XP SP2 > > Picked up the remote control, turned on the TV, computer shut down totally > dumping a screen full of spreadsheets. Gotta love that. > > Previously, the monitor has just flickered and reset itself. > > It is sporadic. I haven't been able to discern a specific item that I'm > doing when it happens. > > I had thought that it might be the scanner so removed it. Obviously it > wasn't. > > I've asked the IT folk at work, electrician, my computer guru - all are > lost. > > HALP! (an upgraded "help"). > > Suggestions, thoughts, updated Ouija boards.... > > Mist > If you're thinking of using a UPS, it depends on which kind of UPS, as to whether it would make a difference. The computer ATX power supply, has something called "holdup time". If I were to look at specs on Newegg, I might note a "17ms holdup time" for a supply. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817104999 The power supply has a large capacitor, that stores energy in it. The AC from the power cord, is converted directly to DC, and stored in the capacitor. The switching conversion in the ATX supply feeds off that capacitor. A cheap UPS is the SPS or "standby" type. With the SPS type, it takes some number of milliseconds, to detect a problem with the AC. If the AC completely disappears, it takes the UPS maybe 8 milliseconds to respond. So for 8 milliseconds, the UPS has zero volts on its output. The 8 milliseconds number if less than the 17 millisecond number. And that means, the ATX supply has enough energy stored inside, to "hold up" until the UPS starts running off its battery. In the following diagram, maybe you can see that if the outage lasted longer than 17ms, the ATX internal DC voltage would drop below the level at which the thing could work. 0 8ms ---------- +------------- ATX internal DC (primary) voltage \ | (No glitch is seen on the ATX outputs, \ | as long as the level is maintained.) \| --- (Level at which it stops working) --- Zero volts So for correct operation, the UPS is relying on that property of the ATX supply, to ensure proper operation. The ATX holdup time must be longer than the UPS response time. If, for any reason, the ATX supply cannot store enough energy, it could "tip over" and the computer could reset. The UPS will give you relief from this problem, as long as the ATX supply in the computer is working properly. It could also be that there is a problem with the ATX supply. Or even a problem with the A.C. wiring. The fact that your monitor "resets", suggests the power supply on it is seeing an extended power outage as well. If the ATX supply had no hold up time at all, this kind of UPS would work. This is a "double conversion" type, with "zero transfer time". The fact that the unit is fan cooled, tells you it does AC-DC-AC conversion all the time, and no matter how the AC glitches on the input, the thing is always feeding off the battery, and the battery voltage remains smooth. It would take seriously defective AC wiring, to upset one of these. Whereas a cheap SPS type of UPS, one with a finite response time, is quite efficient, and doesn't waste power, the double conversion time does waste power and there is heat output all the time. Even when the AC is working, these still dump out heat. As a reviewer notes in the review for this item, there is a fan and it can be noisy. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16842111098&Tpk=SU750XL This is the same idea, only with a little more "beef" to it. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16842111148&Tpk=su1500xl The UPS wiring looks like this. You use the outlets on the UPS that are marked as being powered by the battery. Some outlets on a UPS, may only be "surge protected", and don't actually run from battery during a power outage. I use a chain of a couple power strips, to get enough outlets for all computer items. (Many small wall warts etc, take up most of the space.) AC_outlet ---------- UPS ------------ Computer ------------ Monitor ------------ Cable Modem etc. Maybe you could borrow a cheap UPS from someone, and do a little testing. If things improve, then you could go shopping for one. HTH, Paul
Guest Unknown Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 Re: This cuts it Degaussing has NEVER caused any back emf on the line. Not only that but only CRT's are degaussed and you don't know the type of TV he/she has. "Twayne" <nobody@devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message news:%23S5nF6Y8IHA.3336@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Windows XP SP2 >> >> Picked up the remote control, turned on the TV, computer shut down >> totally dumping a screen full of spreadsheets. Gotta love that. >> >> Previously, the monitor has just flickered and reset itself. >> >> It is sporadic. I haven't been able to discern a specific item that >> I'm doing when it happens. >> >> I had thought that it might be the scanner so removed it. Obviously it >> wasn't. >> >> I've asked the IT folk at work, electrician, my computer guru - all >> are lost. >> >> HALP! (an upgraded "help"). >> >> Suggestions, thoughts, updated Ouija boards.... >> >> Mist >> >> >> --- >> avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. >> Virus Database (VPS): 080728-0, 07/28/2008 >> Tested on: 7/29/2008 7:42:57 AM >> avast! - copyright © 1988-2008 ALWIL Software. >> http://www.avast.com > > Are the TV and computer on the same ckt breaker? Try putting one on a > different breaker and see if that helps. TVs auto-degauss these days > which creates some huge emf back into the line. > > HTH > > >
Guest Paul Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 Re: This cuts it Unknown wrote: > Degaussing has NEVER caused any back emf on the line. Not only that but only > CRT's are degaussed and you don't know the type of TV he/she has. My small portable TV, has a relay to switch the mains power inside the set. It causes a visible blink in the lights (incandescent bulb), when the TV is switched on. Yet this never causes any problems, because my wiring seems to be pretty solid. The implication is that the transient is short. (And I don't hear anything suggestive from the set, in terms of degaussing. I have other sets that degauss, but the portable in the computer room here, doesn't make any "degaussing noises".) Degaussing should not cause any back EMF, because if it did, it would upset the color purity. A degausser usually has a mechanism to reduce the AC current over time, until a relay cuts the whole circuit off after some number of seconds. By that time, the current should be a relatively low value, and not enough to leave residual magnetism. Paul
Guest Unknown Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 Re: This cuts it Switches the mains power to WHAT???? "Paul" <nospam@needed.com> wrote in message news:g6nimu$g12$1@aioe.org... > Unknown wrote: >> Degaussing has NEVER caused any back emf on the line. Not only that but >> only CRT's are degaussed and you don't know the type of TV he/she has. > > My small portable TV, has a relay to switch the mains power inside the > set. It causes a visible blink in the lights (incandescent bulb), when > the TV is switched on. Yet this never causes any problems, because > my wiring seems to be pretty solid. The implication is that the > transient is short. (And I don't hear anything suggestive from > the set, in terms of degaussing. I have other sets that degauss, > but the portable in the computer room here, doesn't make any > "degaussing noises".) > > Degaussing should not cause any back EMF, because if it did, it > would upset the color purity. A degausser usually has a mechanism > to reduce the AC current over time, until a relay cuts the whole > circuit off after some number of seconds. By that time, the current > should be a relatively low value, and not enough to leave > residual magnetism. > > Paul
Guest Paul Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 Re: This cuts it Unknown wrote: > Switches the mains power to WHAT???? To the main part of the set. The infrared remote is always powered, but there is a relay inside, with quite a loud click, that powers up the rest of the set. And when that relay closes, the lights in the room blink. Paul > "Paul" <nospam@needed.com> wrote in message news:g6nimu$g12$1@aioe.org... >> Unknown wrote: >>> Degaussing has NEVER caused any back emf on the line. Not only that but >>> only CRT's are degaussed and you don't know the type of TV he/she has. >> My small portable TV, has a relay to switch the mains power inside the >> set. It causes a visible blink in the lights (incandescent bulb), when >> the TV is switched on. Yet this never causes any problems, because >> my wiring seems to be pretty solid. The implication is that the >> transient is short. (And I don't hear anything suggestive from >> the set, in terms of degaussing. I have other sets that degauss, >> but the portable in the computer room here, doesn't make any >> "degaussing noises".) >> >> Degaussing should not cause any back EMF, because if it did, it >> would upset the color purity. A degausser usually has a mechanism >> to reduce the AC current over time, until a relay cuts the whole >> circuit off after some number of seconds. By that time, the current >> should be a relatively low value, and not enough to leave >> residual magnetism. >> >> Paul > >
Guest Peter Foldes Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 Re: This cuts it For goodness sake . Go out and get another TV Monitor. What does this have to do with Windows XP -- Peter Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged. "Mist" <pequod@spam.com> wrote in message news:Xns9AEA4E7D8C5BFpequodispcom@207.46.248.16... > Windows XP SP2 > > Picked up the remote control, turned on the TV, computer shut down totally > dumping a screen full of spreadsheets. Gotta love that. > > Previously, the monitor has just flickered and reset itself. > > It is sporadic. I haven't been able to discern a specific item that I'm > doing when it happens. > > I had thought that it might be the scanner so removed it. Obviously it > wasn't. > > I've asked the IT folk at work, electrician, my computer guru - all are > lost. > > HALP! (an upgraded "help"). > > Suggestions, thoughts, updated Ouija boards.... > > Mist > > > --- > avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 080728-0, 07/28/2008 > Tested on: 7/29/2008 7:42:57 AM > avast! - copyright © 1988-2008 ALWIL Software. > http://www.avast.com > > >
Guest Unknown Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 Re: This cuts it Are you in England? 230 volts? "Paul" <nospam@needed.com> wrote in message news:g6nlch$sh0$2@aioe.org... > Unknown wrote: >> Switches the mains power to WHAT???? > > To the main part of the set. The infrared remote is always powered, but > there is a relay inside, with quite a loud click, that powers up the > rest of the set. And when that relay closes, the lights in the room > blink. > > Paul > >> "Paul" <nospam@needed.com> wrote in message news:g6nimu$g12$1@aioe.org... >>> Unknown wrote: >>>> Degaussing has NEVER caused any back emf on the line. Not only that but >>>> only CRT's are degaussed and you don't know the type of TV he/she has. >>> My small portable TV, has a relay to switch the mains power inside the >>> set. It causes a visible blink in the lights (incandescent bulb), when >>> the TV is switched on. Yet this never causes any problems, because >>> my wiring seems to be pretty solid. The implication is that the >>> transient is short. (And I don't hear anything suggestive from >>> the set, in terms of degaussing. I have other sets that degauss, >>> but the portable in the computer room here, doesn't make any >>> "degaussing noises".) >>> >>> Degaussing should not cause any back EMF, because if it did, it >>> would upset the color purity. A degausser usually has a mechanism >>> to reduce the AC current over time, until a relay cuts the whole >>> circuit off after some number of seconds. By that time, the current >>> should be a relatively low value, and not enough to leave >>> residual magnetism. >>> >>> Paul >>
Guest Mist Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 Re: This cuts it Big_Al <BigAl@md.com> wrote in news:OmAMXHX8IHA.2336@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl: > Mist wrote: >> Windows XP SP2 >> >> Picked up the remote control, turned on the TV, computer shut down >> totally dumping a screen full of spreadsheets. Gotta love that. >> >> Previously, the monitor has just flickered and reset itself. >> >> It is sporadic. I haven't been able to discern a specific item that >> I'm doing when it happens. >> >> I had thought that it might be the scanner so removed it. Obviously >> it wasn't. >> >> I've asked the IT folk at work, electrician, my computer guru - all >> are lost. >> >> HALP! (an upgraded "help"). >> >> Suggestions, thoughts, updated Ouija boards.... >> >> Mist > Maybe the TV set you have draws too much power or caused a surge and > the computer just caught the worst end of it. Would seem to me it wouldn't be sporadic then. Hmm? Mist --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 080729-0, 07/29/2008 Tested on: 7/29/2008 5:02:10 PM avast! - copyright © 1988-2008 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com
Guest Mist Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 Re: This cuts it "Michael A. Loginov" <haudh@putniki.org> wrote in news:C4B4F211.2B8C%haudh@putniki.org: > And what about to turn TV on without remote control? As I know there > is something like remote control for PC - can it interact with TV > remote control? > > > On 29.07.08 16:06, in article eaHPULX8IHA.4608@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl, > "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote: > >> >> "Big_Al" <BigAl@md.com> wrote in message >> news:OmAMXHX8IHA.2336@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> Mist wrote: >>>> Windows XP SP2 >>>> >>>> Picked up the remote control, turned on the TV, computer shut down >> totally >>>> dumping a screen full of spreadsheets. Gotta love that. >>>> >>>> Previously, the monitor has just flickered and reset itself. >>>> >>>> It is sporadic. I haven't been able to discern a specific item that >>>> I'm doing when it happens. >>>> >>>> I had thought that it might be the scanner so removed it. Obviously >>>> it wasn't. >>>> >>>> I've asked the IT folk at work, electrician, my computer guru - all >>>> are lost. >>>> >>>> HALP! (an upgraded "help"). >>>> >>>> Suggestions, thoughts, updated Ouija boards.... >>>> >>>> Mist >>> Maybe the TV set you have draws too much power or caused a surge and >>> the computer just caught the worst end of it. >> >> >> A possibility. >> Try putting the computer on a UPS. A UPS is always a good idea. >> >> Even a smaller one for computer only should be OK Yep, the entire system is on one. Long time believer in such. Brand new battery also. Mist --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 080729-0, 07/29/2008 Tested on: 7/29/2008 5:03:37 PM avast! - copyright © 1988-2008 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com
Guest Mist Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 Re: This cuts it "R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com> wrote in news:#zPRNMX8IHA.1420@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl: > Maybe an inexpensive UPS ( Universal Power Supply ) might help. > Are the Television and computer equipment sharing ( or plugged ) > into the same outlet or power strip ? > > For a Television to cause that kind of line voltage drop, I'd have the > wiring checked and call your power company and have your line > checked out. > > "Big_Al" <BigAl@md.com> wrote in message > news:OmAMXHX8IHA.2336@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Mist wrote: >>> Windows XP SP2 >>> >>> Picked up the remote control, turned on the TV, computer shut down >>> totally dumping a screen full of spreadsheets. Gotta love that. >>> >>> Previously, the monitor has just flickered and reset itself. >>> >>> It is sporadic. I haven't been able to discern a specific item that >>> I'm doing when it happens. I had thought that it might be the >>> scanner so removed it. Obviously it wasn't. >>> >>> I've asked the IT folk at work, electrician, my computer guru - all >>> are lost. >>> >>> HALP! (an upgraded "help"). Suggestions, thoughts, updated Ouija >>> boards.... >>> >>> Mist >> Maybe the TV set you have draws too much power or caused a surge and >> the computer just caught the worst end of it. Electrician says everything is hunky-dory. I beg to differ based on the above but I'm the peon. Not sharing as far as I know. At opposite sides of the room. Mist --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 080729-0, 07/29/2008 Tested on: 7/29/2008 5:06:35 PM avast! - copyright © 1988-2008 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com
Guest Mist Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 Re: This cuts it "Draggonfodder" <commojohn@braemarnet.com> wrote in news:uqEbKRY8IHA.2416@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl: > > Sounds like you have a corroded or loose ground on one of your outlets > on that particular ckt breaker. Trip the breaker and look at all the > outlets to make sure the wires are all screwed in tight. All it takes > is one loose wire to mess up a computer. > > John That's an idea. Forgot about corrosion. Really should know better too. Mist --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 080729-0, 07/29/2008 Tested on: 7/29/2008 5:09:58 PM avast! - copyright © 1988-2008 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com
Guest Mist Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 Re: This cuts it "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in news:yLFjk.8750$vn7.7417@flpi147.ffdc.sbc.com: > Go to a hardware or electronics supply store and buy an AC circuit > tester. You plug it into any outlet and > it will tell you the condition of the outlet. I.E. no ground, no > 'good' neutral, etc. etc. They cost about $6.00. > "Mist" <pequod@spam.com> wrote in message > news:Xns9AEA4E7D8C5BFpequodispcom@207.46.248.16... >> Windows XP SP2 >> >> Picked up the remote control, turned on the TV, computer shut down >> totally dumping a screen full of spreadsheets. Gotta love that. >> >> Previously, the monitor has just flickered and reset itself. >> >> It is sporadic. I haven't been able to discern a specific item that >> I'm doing when it happens. >> >> I had thought that it might be the scanner so removed it. Obviously >> it wasn't. >> >> I've asked the IT folk at work, electrician, my computer guru - all >> are lost. >> >> HALP! (an upgraded "help"). >> >> Suggestions, thoughts, updated Ouija boards.... >> >> Mist Thanks. Will do. Mist --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 080729-0, 07/29/2008 Tested on: 7/29/2008 5:11:36 PM avast! - copyright © 1988-2008 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com
Guest Paul Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 Re: This cuts it Unknown wrote: > Are you in England? 230 volts? Nope. Canada. 110V or so supply (usually 120V and my feed is a bit on the high side). The set if made by "Sharp", and as far as I know, they are a Japanese company. CH13M10 is the model and the box says Made In Malaysia. It surprised me the first time I turned it on. The other sets I've got, don't use a relay. So it is not a regulatory requirement. Paul
Guest M.I.5¾ Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 Re: This cuts it "Mist" <pequod@spam.com> wrote in message news:Xns9AEAAD8BE71A3pequodispcom@207.46.248.16... > "Michael A. Loginov" <haudh@putniki.org> wrote in > news:C4B4F211.2B8C%haudh@putniki.org: > >> And what about to turn TV on without remote control? As I know there >> is something like remote control for PC - can it interact with TV >> remote control? >> >> >> On 29.07.08 16:06, in article eaHPULX8IHA.4608@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl, >> "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote: >> >>> >>> "Big_Al" <BigAl@md.com> wrote in message >>> news:OmAMXHX8IHA.2336@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> Mist wrote: >>>>> Windows XP SP2 >>>>> >>>>> Picked up the remote control, turned on the TV, computer shut down >>> totally >>>>> dumping a screen full of spreadsheets. Gotta love that. >>>>> >>>>> Previously, the monitor has just flickered and reset itself. >>>>> >>>>> It is sporadic. I haven't been able to discern a specific item that >>>>> I'm doing when it happens. >>>>> >>>>> I had thought that it might be the scanner so removed it. Obviously >>>>> it wasn't. >>>>> >>>>> I've asked the IT folk at work, electrician, my computer guru - all >>>>> are lost. >>>>> >>>>> HALP! (an upgraded "help"). >>>>> >>>>> Suggestions, thoughts, updated Ouija boards.... >>>>> >>>>> Mist > >>>> Maybe the TV set you have draws too much power or caused a surge and >>>> the computer just caught the worst end of it. >>> >>> >>> A possibility. >>> Try putting the computer on a UPS. A UPS is always a good idea. >>> >>> Even a smaller one for computer only should be OK > > Yep, the entire system is on one. Long time believer in such. Brand new > battery also. > An ordinary (i.e. cheap) off-line UPS will not solve a problem such as this. Although they claim to contain a voltage regulator, this only actually operates when in backup mode. While mains power is available they offer little protection from voltage glitches and very short duration brown outs. What you require is an on-line UPS.
Guest Unknown Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 Re: This cuts it Must be old. All later sets do not use a relay. They use a start pulse to the high voltage transformer. "Paul" <nospam@needed.com> wrote in message news:g6o69p$fq6$1@aioe.org... > Unknown wrote: >> Are you in England? 230 volts? > > Nope. Canada. 110V or so supply (usually 120V > and my feed is a bit on the high side). > > The set if made by "Sharp", and as far as I know, > they are a Japanese company. CH13M10 is the model > and the box says Made In Malaysia. > > It surprised me the first time I turned it on. The other > sets I've got, don't use a relay. So it is not a > regulatory requirement. > > Paul
Guest Mist Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 Re: This cuts it "M.I.5¾" <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote in news:48904d23$1_1@glkas0286.greenlnk.net: > An ordinary (i.e. cheap) off-line UPS will not solve a problem such as > this. Although they claim to contain a voltage regulator, this only > actually operates when in backup mode. While mains power is available > they offer little protection from voltage glitches and very short > duration brown outs. What you require is an on-line UPS. System is tied into an APC BackUps 600 - online or offline? Mist --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 080730-0, 07/30/2008 Tested on: 7/30/2008 6:48:22 PM avast! - copyright © 1988-2008 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com
Guest M.I.5¾ Posted July 31, 2008 Posted July 31, 2008 Re: This cuts it "Mist" <pequod@spam.com> wrote in message news:Xns9AEBBF4EAF46Epequodispcom@207.46.248.16... > "M.I.5¾" <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote in > news:48904d23$1_1@glkas0286.greenlnk.net: > >> An ordinary (i.e. cheap) off-line UPS will not solve a problem such as >> this. Although they claim to contain a voltage regulator, this only >> actually operates when in backup mode. While mains power is available >> they offer little protection from voltage glitches and very short >> duration brown outs. What you require is an on-line UPS. > > System is tied into an APC BackUps 600 - online or offline? > No idea. My Internet Access is down. But you can Google it just as well as I can.
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