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Guest AAaron123
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I have a folder containing links.

 

I dragged it from the desktop into the bar at the bottom where it became a

tool bar.

 

I have it positioned so three items show. To see the rest I must click the

>>

 

What I can't do is arrange the order the items appear in.

 

I even tried prepending the names with 1, 2,...

 

I can't figure what determines the order. Not any of the file dates - I've

checked that. Not alphabetically either.

 

Can you give any info about this?

 

 

thanks

 

PS What's the names of the sections in the bar at the bottom of the screen?

And the bar?

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Guest FrankV
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Re: What determines the order of tool bar items display

 

Hold left click on a button and move it to where you want. You should see a

capital "I" next to the button you are moving.

 

Frank

 

"AAaron123" <aaaron123@roadrunner.com> wrote in message

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>I have a folder containing links.

>

> I dragged it from the desktop into the bar at the bottom where it became a

> tool bar.

>

> I have it positioned so three items show. To see the rest I must click the

> >>

>

> What I can't do is arrange the order the items appear in.

>

> I even tried prepending the names with 1, 2,...

>

> I can't figure what determines the order. Not any of the file dates - I've

> checked that. Not alphabetically either.

>

> Can you give any info about this?

>

>

> thanks

>

> PS What's the names of the sections in the bar at the bottom of the

> screen? And the bar?

>

Guest AAaron123
Posted

Re: What determines the order of tool bar items display

 

that works, thanks

"FrankV" <FrankV@noaddress.com> wrote in message

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> Hold left click on a button and move it to where you want. You should see

> a capital "I" next to the button you are moving.

>

> Frank

>

> "AAaron123" <aaaron123@roadrunner.com> wrote in message

> news:eo9EZXK9IHA.5684@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>I have a folder containing links.

>>

>> I dragged it from the desktop into the bar at the bottom where it became

>> a tool bar.

>>

>> I have it positioned so three items show. To see the rest I must click

>> the

>> >>

>>

>> What I can't do is arrange the order the items appear in.

>>

>> I even tried prepending the names with 1, 2,...

>>

>> I can't figure what determines the order. Not any of the file dates -

>> I've checked that. Not alphabetically either.

>>

>> Can you give any info about this?

>>

>>

>> thanks

>>

>> PS What's the names of the sections in the bar at the bottom of the

>> screen? And the bar?

>>

>

>

Guest dadiOH
Posted

Re: What determines the order of tool bar items display

 

AAaron123 wrote:

> PS What's the names of the sections in the bar at the bottom of the

> screen?

 

It depends on what you have on it. There are normally the tray (where the

clock is) - AKA "notification area" - and the "quick launch" toolbar if you

kept that.

> And the bar?

 

Taskbar. You can have up to four taskbars, one on each side of the monitor

and each taskbar can as many toolbars (like quick launch) as you care to put

on it.

 

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Guest AAaron123
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Re: What determines the order of tool bar items display

 

 

"dadiOH" <dadiOH@invalid.com> wrote in message

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> AAaron123 wrote:

>

>> PS What's the names of the sections in the bar at the bottom of the

>> screen?

>

> It depends on what you have on it. There are normally the tray (where the

> clock is) - AKA "notification area" - and the "quick launch" toolbar if

> you kept that.

>

>> And the bar?

>

> Taskbar. You can have up to four taskbars, one on each side of the

> monitor and each taskbar can as many toolbars (like quick launch) as you

> care to put on it.

 

How ca I create a new taskbar?

 

(Isn't that better than asking: How to create a new bar like the one at the

bottom of the screen?)

 

Thanks for that

>

> --

>

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Guest Ken Blake, MVP
Posted

Re: What determines the order of tool bar items display

 

On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 13:17:11 -0400, "dadiOH" <dadiOH@invalid.com>

wrote:

> AAaron123 wrote:

>

> > PS What's the names of the sections in the bar at the bottom of the

> > screen?

>

> It depends on what you have on it. There are normally the tray (where the

> clock is) - AKA "notification area" - and the "quick launch" toolbar if you

> kept that.

>

> > And the bar?

>

> Taskbar. You can have up to four taskbars, one on each side of the monitor

> and each taskbar can as many toolbars (like quick launch) as you care to put

> on it.

 

 

This is not, strictly speaking, correct. You can have only *one* Task

Bar. Toolbars, such as the Quick Launch Bar, are not part of the Task

Bar. Although it appears on the Task Bar by default, the Quick Launch

Bar, and other toolbars, are separate toolbars that can be dragged off

the Task bar and docked on other sides of the screen.

 

If you drag the Quick Launch Bar off the Task Bar and dock it on the

left side of the screen, that does *not* mean that you have created a

second Task Bar there. There is still only a single Task Bar.

 

Also note that the Task Bar itself can be dragged to what ever side of

the screen you prefer it on.

 

 

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Guest AAaron123
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Re: What determines the order of tool bar items display

 

got it

 

thanks

 

"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message

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> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 13:17:11 -0400, "dadiOH" <dadiOH@invalid.com>

> wrote:

>

>> AAaron123 wrote:

>>

>> > PS What's the names of the sections in the bar at the bottom of the

>> > screen?

>>

>> It depends on what you have on it. There are normally the tray (where

>> the

>> clock is) - AKA "notification area" - and the "quick launch" toolbar if

>> you

>> kept that.

>>

>> > And the bar?

>>

>> Taskbar. You can have up to four taskbars, one on each side of the

>> monitor

>> and each taskbar can as many toolbars (like quick launch) as you care to

>> put

>> on it.

>

>

> This is not, strictly speaking, correct. You can have only *one* Task

> Bar. Toolbars, such as the Quick Launch Bar, are not part of the Task

> Bar. Although it appears on the Task Bar by default, the Quick Launch

> Bar, and other toolbars, are separate toolbars that can be dragged off

> the Task bar and docked on other sides of the screen.

>

> If you drag the Quick Launch Bar off the Task Bar and dock it on the

> left side of the screen, that does *not* mean that you have created a

> second Task Bar there. There is still only a single Task Bar.

>

> Also note that the Task Bar itself can be dragged to what ever side of

> the screen you prefer it on.

>

>

> --

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Guest Ken Blake, MVP
Posted

Re: What determines the order of tool bar items display

 

On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 14:14:59 -0400, "AAaron123"

<aaaron123@roadrunner.com> wrote:

> got it

>

> thanks

 

 

You're welcome. Glad to help.

 

 

> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message

> news:s27994d6q9mqqbb61067l5r1c974g63qns@4ax.com...

> > On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 13:17:11 -0400, "dadiOH" <dadiOH@invalid.com>

> > wrote:

> >

> >> AAaron123 wrote:

> >>

> >> > PS What's the names of the sections in the bar at the bottom of the

> >> > screen?

> >>

> >> It depends on what you have on it. There are normally the tray (where

> >> the

> >> clock is) - AKA "notification area" - and the "quick launch" toolbar if

> >> you

> >> kept that.

> >>

> >> > And the bar?

> >>

> >> Taskbar. You can have up to four taskbars, one on each side of the

> >> monitor

> >> and each taskbar can as many toolbars (like quick launch) as you care to

> >> put

> >> on it.

> >

> >

> > This is not, strictly speaking, correct. You can have only *one* Task

> > Bar. Toolbars, such as the Quick Launch Bar, are not part of the Task

> > Bar. Although it appears on the Task Bar by default, the Quick Launch

> > Bar, and other toolbars, are separate toolbars that can be dragged off

> > the Task bar and docked on other sides of the screen.

> >

> > If you drag the Quick Launch Bar off the Task Bar and dock it on the

> > left side of the screen, that does *not* mean that you have created a

> > second Task Bar there. There is still only a single Task Bar.

> >

> > Also note that the Task Bar itself can be dragged to what ever side of

> > the screen you prefer it on.

> >

> >

> > --

> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

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>

 

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Guest dadiOH
Posted

Re: What determines the order of tool bar items display

 

Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 13:17:11 -0400, "dadiOH" <dadiOH@invalid.com>

> wrote:

>

>> AAaron123 wrote:

>>

>>> PS What's the names of the sections in the bar at the bottom of the

>>> screen?

>>

>> It depends on what you have on it. There are normally the tray

>> (where the clock is) - AKA "notification area" - and the "quick

>> launch" toolbar if you kept that.

>>

>>> And the bar?

>>

>> Taskbar. You can have up to four taskbars, one on each side of the

>> monitor and each taskbar can as many toolbars (like quick launch) as

>> you care to put on it.

>

>

> This is not, strictly speaking, correct. You can have only *one* Task

> Bar. Toolbars, such as the Quick Launch Bar, are not part of the Task

> Bar. Although it appears on the Task Bar by default, the Quick Launch

> Bar, and other toolbars, are separate toolbars that can be dragged off

> the Task bar and docked on other sides of the screen.

>

> If you drag the Quick Launch Bar off the Task Bar and dock it on the

> left side of the screen, that does *not* mean that you have created a

> second Task Bar there. There is still only a single Task Bar.

 

I guess it depends upon how one defines "taskbars". To me, a taskbar is

something upon which I can put toolbars. I have three of those each with

numerous toolbars. The "original" taskbar -

with Start - is at the left of the monitor. I have another at the bottom

and a third at the right side. The closed up toolbars all have multiple

folders each with shortcuts to numerous apps. Here's an old screenshot...

 

http://mysite.verizon.net/xico/pix/taskbars_and_toolbars.jpg

 

It looks cluttered but it isn't because each taskbar is set to auto-hide and

only pops out when the cursor is moved to the screen edge. I like it this

way because it gives me quick access to frequently used apps without any

clicking other than on the app's shortcut.

 

 

 

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Guest dadiOH
Posted

Re: What determines the order of tool bar items display

 

AAaron123 wrote:

> How ca I create a new taskbar?

 

Here's one way. It is a copy & paste from my dandies (see below in sig) in

the section "Handy Dandies - Taskbars & Toolbars" and it makes reference to

some screen shots in the original which(obviously) are not included here.

_____________________

 

There are more elegant ways to make another taskbar but you can do it by

left clicking the My Computer icon and dragging it to an empty side of your

monitor. Once you get there, let loose and a new "My Computer" toolbar will

pop out. Yes, I know you don't need a My Computer toolbar but bear with me

a bit.

 

Make a folder somewhere and name it something catchy like "Toolbars". Now

make sub-folders that describe the type of applications you use most

frequently...perhaps a folder for "Audio", one for "Visual", another for

"Utilities"...like that. The sub-folders can have sub-folders too. These

are my toolbar folders...

 

and here is the same thing with the Audio folder expanded. What doesn't

show are the shortcuts within the folders, all of which have special icons

so I can spot them quickly...

 

Next, browse to the programs you use most frequently, make a shortcut to it

and put the shortcut in the appropriate toolbar folder. Now right click the

taskbar you made by dragging "My Computer", highlight "Toolbars" and select

"New toolbar" from the menu that pops out. Browse to your "Toolbar" folder,

select one of the sub-folders and click OK. BINGO! You have a new toolbar!

You can now close the extraneous "My Computer" one...right click > Toolbars

and untick it. The shortcuts don't have to be to programs either - they can

be to anything...documents, URLs...

 

You can make as many toolbars as you might like. Why are they handy?

It gives you quick access to the programs you use most frequently.

By arranging the toolbar folders by type of program, your toolbars become

categorized...another aid in getting to something quickly.

You can get that mess of shortcuts off your desktop and use that space

for things you are busy working on at the moment.

 

****************************************************

 

How the new toolbars will look depends on three things that can be selected

by right clicking the toolbar...

Show title

Show text

View

 

If you have one set to "Show title", you can drag the toolbar until it

closes up so just the title shows. If you now click that toolbar, you'll

get a pop-up menu listing all the things in it like this shot of the

contents of my Audio folder...

 

You can also see parts of some other toolbars under the menu. Cluttered?

Not at all...the whole works is invisible until it pops out when I move the

cursor to the right side of the monitor. I have very quick access to dozens

of my most used apps and there is nothing - nothing - visible on my desk

top. Cool... :)

 

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Guest Ken Blake, MVP
Posted

Re: What determines the order of tool bar items display

 

On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 17:03:44 -0400, "dadiOH" <dadiOH@invalid.com>

wrote:

> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

> > On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 13:17:11 -0400, "dadiOH" <dadiOH@invalid.com>

> > wrote:

> >

> >> AAaron123 wrote:

> >>

> >>> PS What's the names of the sections in the bar at the bottom of the

> >>> screen?

> >>

> >> It depends on what you have on it. There are normally the tray

> >> (where the clock is) - AKA "notification area" - and the "quick

> >> launch" toolbar if you kept that.

> >>

> >>> And the bar?

> >>

> >> Taskbar. You can have up to four taskbars, one on each side of the

> >> monitor and each taskbar can as many toolbars (like quick launch) as

> >> you care to put on it.

> >

> >

> > This is not, strictly speaking, correct. You can have only *one* Task

> > Bar. Toolbars, such as the Quick Launch Bar, are not part of the Task

> > Bar. Although it appears on the Task Bar by default, the Quick Launch

> > Bar, and other toolbars, are separate toolbars that can be dragged off

> > the Task bar and docked on other sides of the screen.

> >

> > If you drag the Quick Launch Bar off the Task Bar and dock it on the

> > left side of the screen, that does *not* mean that you have created a

> > second Task Bar there. There is still only a single Task Bar.

>

> I guess it depends upon how one defines "taskbars". To me, a taskbar is

> something upon which I can put toolbars.

 

 

OK, but you are using the term in an idiosyncratic way, not the way

Microsoft uses it.

 

It's your choice of course, but the problem is that if you use a word

in a way that's different from the way most people use it, you are

very likely to be misunderstood.

 

 

> I have three of those each with

> numerous toolbars. The "original" taskbar -

> with Start - is at the left of the monitor. I have another at the bottom

> and a third at the right side. The closed up toolbars all have multiple

> folders each with shortcuts to numerous apps. Here's an old screenshot...

>

> http://mysite.verizon.net/xico/pix/taskbars_and_toolbars.jpg

>

> It looks cluttered but it isn't because each taskbar is set to auto-hide and

> only pops out when the cursor is moved to the screen edge. I like it this

> way because it gives me quick access to frequently used apps without any

> clicking other than on the app's shortcut.

 

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Guest dadiOH
Posted

Re: What determines the order of tool bar items display

 

Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 17:03:44 -0400, "dadiOH" <dadiOH@invalid.com>

> wrote:

>

>> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 13:17:11 -0400, "dadiOH" <dadiOH@invalid.com>

>>> wrote:

>>>

>>>> AAaron123 wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> PS What's the names of the sections in the bar at the bottom of

>>>>> the screen?

>>>>

>>>> It depends on what you have on it. There are normally the tray

>>>> (where the clock is) - AKA "notification area" - and the "quick

>>>> launch" toolbar if you kept that.

>>>>

>>>>> And the bar?

>>>>

>>>> Taskbar. You can have up to four taskbars, one on each side of the

>>>> monitor and each taskbar can as many toolbars (like quick launch)

>>>> as you care to put on it.

>>>

>>>

>>> This is not, strictly speaking, correct. You can have only *one*

>>> Task Bar. Toolbars, such as the Quick Launch Bar, are not part of

>>> the Task Bar. Although it appears on the Task Bar by default, the

>>> Quick Launch Bar, and other toolbars, are separate toolbars that

>>> can be dragged off the Task bar and docked on other sides of the

>>> screen.

>>>

>>> If you drag the Quick Launch Bar off the Task Bar and dock it on the

>>> left side of the screen, that does *not* mean that you have created

>>> a second Task Bar there. There is still only a single Task Bar.

>>

>> I guess it depends upon how one defines "taskbars". To me, a

>> taskbar is something upon which I can put toolbars.

>

>

> OK, but you are using the term in an idiosyncratic way, not the way

> Microsoft uses it.

>

> It's your choice of course, but the problem is that if you use a word

> in a way that's different from the way most people use it, you are

> very likely to be misunderstood.

 

I'm totally willing to reserve "taskbar" for the usual one but I'm at a loss

as to what to call the others. "Toolbar" is just one, yes? So what would

be the correct term for a series of toolbars on one "whatever" thing?

 

--

 

dadiOH

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Guest Ken Blake, MVP
Posted

Re: What determines the order of tool bar items display

 

On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 20:46:03 -0400, "dadiOH" <dadiOH@invalid.com>

wrote:

> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

> > On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 17:03:44 -0400, "dadiOH" <dadiOH@invalid.com>

> > wrote:

> >

> >> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

> >>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 13:17:11 -0400, "dadiOH" <dadiOH@invalid.com>

> >>> wrote:

> >>>

> >>>> AAaron123 wrote:

> >>>>

> >>>>> PS What's the names of the sections in the bar at the bottom of

> >>>>> the screen?

> >>>>

> >>>> It depends on what you have on it. There are normally the tray

> >>>> (where the clock is) - AKA "notification area" - and the "quick

> >>>> launch" toolbar if you kept that.

> >>>>

> >>>>> And the bar?

> >>>>

> >>>> Taskbar. You can have up to four taskbars, one on each side of the

> >>>> monitor and each taskbar can as many toolbars (like quick launch)

> >>>> as you care to put on it.

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> This is not, strictly speaking, correct. You can have only *one*

> >>> Task Bar. Toolbars, such as the Quick Launch Bar, are not part of

> >>> the Task Bar. Although it appears on the Task Bar by default, the

> >>> Quick Launch Bar, and other toolbars, are separate toolbars that

> >>> can be dragged off the Task bar and docked on other sides of the

> >>> screen.

> >>>

> >>> If you drag the Quick Launch Bar off the Task Bar and dock it on the

> >>> left side of the screen, that does *not* mean that you have created

> >>> a second Task Bar there. There is still only a single Task Bar.

> >>

> >> I guess it depends upon how one defines "taskbars". To me, a

> >> taskbar is something upon which I can put toolbars.

> >

> >

> > OK, but you are using the term in an idiosyncratic way, not the way

> > Microsoft uses it.

> >

> > It's your choice of course, but the problem is that if you use a word

> > in a way that's different from the way most people use it, you are

> > very likely to be misunderstood.

>

> I'm totally willing to reserve "taskbar" for the usual one but I'm at a loss

> as to what to call the others. "Toolbar" is just one, yes? So what would

> be the correct term for a series of toolbars on one "whatever" thing?

 

 

Sorry, I don't know an "official" name. I just call it a Quick Launch

Bar or a "whatever" toolbar.

 

 

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