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I have been experimenting with Firefox 2 and downloaded the latest

flash player which was 9.0.124 or something like that. No complaints

from the installer, but the outcome was pretty ugly. Corrupted video

and bringing the browser to a crawl, I barely got it closed before it

locked up my system. Going to the system requirements page, firefox 2

was not listed for windows 98 for this version of flash player.

 

Anyone know which player will work with 98 and FF 2?

 

Thanks

Posted

Re: Which flash player for Firefox 2?

 

The latest flash player *should* work with Firefox 2.x in Win98. There have been

some reported issues, but I think they are more related to deficiencies in older

video drivers in use on some 98 systems.

 

The Flash Player system requirements page

http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/productinfo/systemreqs/

states for Win98:

Firefox 1.x, Mozilla 1.x, Netscape 7.x or later

 

That means Firefox 1.x or later, Mozilla 1.x or later, Netscape 7.x or later.

Vendors tend to lump all Mozilla browsers into one inclusive sentence in their

system requirements pages.

 

However, they also list the following "minimum" requirements:

Intel® Pentium® II 450MHz or faster processor (or equivalent)

128MB of RAM

 

--

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+

http://dts-l.net/

http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

 

 

"lb" <ldbrw@my-dejanews.com> wrote in message

news:424e0d78-9f52-4576-8de1-4bf29ca8bb7f@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...

>I have been experimenting with Firefox 2 and downloaded the latest

> flash player which was 9.0.124 or something like that. No complaints

> from the installer, but the outcome was pretty ugly. Corrupted video

> and bringing the browser to a crawl, I barely got it closed before it

> locked up my system. Going to the system requirements page, firefox 2

> was not listed for windows 98 for this version of flash player.

>

> Anyone know which player will work with 98 and FF 2?

>

> Thanks

Posted

Re: Which flash player for Firefox 2?

 

 

 

glee wrote:

> The latest flash player *should* work with Firefox 2.x in Win98. There have been

> some reported issues, but I think they are more related to deficiencies in older

> video drivers in use on some 98 systems.

>

> The Flash Player system requirements page

> http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/productinfo/systemreqs/

> states for Win98:

> Firefox 1.x, Mozilla 1.x, Netscape 7.x or later

>

> That means Firefox 1.x or later, Mozilla 1.x or later, Netscape 7.x or later.

> Vendors tend to lump all Mozilla browsers into one inclusive sentence in their

> system requirements pages.

 

I guess I only read it at 1X. I will give it another try, My CPU is

fine, but I have an old video card so maybe that is it.

>

> However, they also list the following "minimum" requirements:

> Intel� Pentium� II 450MHz or faster processor (or equivalent)

> 128MB of RAM

>

> --

> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+

> http://dts-l.net/

> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

>

>

> "lb" <ldbrw@my-dejanews.com> wrote in message

> news:424e0d78-9f52-4576-8de1-4bf29ca8bb7f@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...

> >I have been experimenting with Firefox 2 and downloaded the latest

> > flash player which was 9.0.124 or something like that. No complaints

> > from the installer, but the outcome was pretty ugly. Corrupted video

> > and bringing the browser to a crawl, I barely got it closed before it

> > locked up my system. Going to the system requirements page, firefox 2

> > was not listed for windows 98 for this version of flash player.

> >

> > Anyone know which player will work with 98 and FF 2?

> >

> > Thanks

Posted

Re: Which flash player for Firefox 2?

 

The Ati 9800 XT works great in 98 Second Edition with ME drivers at least for

me if you want a good decent graphics card that is currently supported at

least for now. However, remember the modern driver downloads will all be for

XP and Vista.

 

"lb" wrote:

>

>

> glee wrote:

> > The latest flash player *should* work with Firefox 2.x in Win98. There have been

> > some reported issues, but I think they are more related to deficiencies in older

> > video drivers in use on some 98 systems.

> >

> > The Flash Player system requirements page

> > http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/productinfo/systemreqs/

> > states for Win98:

> > Firefox 1.x, Mozilla 1.x, Netscape 7.x or later

> >

> > That means Firefox 1.x or later, Mozilla 1.x or later, Netscape 7.x or later.

> > Vendors tend to lump all Mozilla browsers into one inclusive sentence in their

> > system requirements pages.

>

> I guess I only read it at 1X. I will give it another try, My CPU is

> fine, but I have an old video card so maybe that is it.

>

> >

> > However, they also list the following "minimum" requirements:

> > Intel� Pentium� II 450MHz or faster processor (or equivalent)

> > 128MB of RAM

> >

> > --

> > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+

> > http://dts-l.net/

> > http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

> >

> >

> > "lb" <ldbrw@my-dejanews.com> wrote in message

> > news:424e0d78-9f52-4576-8de1-4bf29ca8bb7f@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...

> > >I have been experimenting with Firefox 2 and downloaded the latest

> > > flash player which was 9.0.124 or something like that. No complaints

> > > from the installer, but the outcome was pretty ugly. Corrupted video

> > > and bringing the browser to a crawl, I barely got it closed before it

> > > locked up my system. Going to the system requirements page, firefox 2

> > > was not listed for windows 98 for this version of flash player.

> > >

> > > Anyone know which player will work with 98 and FF 2?

> > >

> > > Thanks

>

Posted

Re: Which flash player for Firefox 2?

 

 

 

Dan wrote:

> The Ati 9800 XT works great in 98 Second Edition with ME drivers at least for

> me if you want a good decent graphics card that is currently supported at

> least for now. However, remember the modern driver downloads will all be for

> XP and Vista.

 

I reinstalled the driver and all seems well now. I think it was a

website issue at the time.

I have a Voodoo 5500 AGP and do not really play games anymore so it

gets me by.

>

> "lb" wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > glee wrote:

> > > The latest flash player *should* work with Firefox 2.x in Win98. There have been

> > > some reported issues, but I think they are more related to deficiencies in older

> > > video drivers in use on some 98 systems.

> > >

> > > The Flash Player system requirements page

> > > http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/productinfo/systemreqs/

> > > states for Win98:

> > > Firefox 1.x, Mozilla 1.x, Netscape 7.x or later

> > >

> > > That means Firefox 1.x or later, Mozilla 1.x or later, Netscape 7.x or later.

> > > Vendors tend to lump all Mozilla browsers into one inclusive sentence in their

> > > system requirements pages.

> >

> > I guess I only read it at 1X. I will give it another try, My CPU is

> > fine, but I have an old video card so maybe that is it.

> >

> > >

> > > However, they also list the following "minimum" requirements:

> > > Intel� Pentium� II 450MHz or faster processor (or equivalent)

> > > 128MB of RAM

> > >

> > > --

> > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+

> > > http://dts-l.net/

> > > http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

> > >

> > >

> > > "lb" <ldbrw@my-dejanews.com> wrote in message

> > > news:424e0d78-9f52-4576-8de1-4bf29ca8bb7f@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...

> > > >I have been experimenting with Firefox 2 and downloaded the latest

> > > > flash player which was 9.0.124 or something like that. No complaints

> > > > from the installer, but the outcome was pretty ugly. Corrupted video

> > > > and bringing the browser to a crawl, I barely got it closed before it

> > > > locked up my system. Going to the system requirements page, firefox 2

> > > > was not listed for windows 98 for this version of flash player.

> > > >

> > > > Anyone know which player will work with 98 and FF 2?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> >

Posted

Re: Which flash player for Firefox 2?

 

Well, I am glad it is now working well for you.

 

"lb" wrote:

>

>

> Dan wrote:

> > The Ati 9800 XT works great in 98 Second Edition with ME drivers at least for

> > me if you want a good decent graphics card that is currently supported at

> > least for now. However, remember the modern driver downloads will all be for

> > XP and Vista.

>

> I reinstalled the driver and all seems well now. I think it was a

> website issue at the time.

> I have a Voodoo 5500 AGP and do not really play games anymore so it

> gets me by.

>

> >

> > "lb" wrote:

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > glee wrote:

> > > > The latest flash player *should* work with Firefox 2.x in Win98. There have been

> > > > some reported issues, but I think they are more related to deficiencies in older

> > > > video drivers in use on some 98 systems.

> > > >

> > > > The Flash Player system requirements page

> > > > http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/productinfo/systemreqs/

> > > > states for Win98:

> > > > Firefox 1.x, Mozilla 1.x, Netscape 7.x or later

> > > >

> > > > That means Firefox 1.x or later, Mozilla 1.x or later, Netscape 7.x or later.

> > > > Vendors tend to lump all Mozilla browsers into one inclusive sentence in their

> > > > system requirements pages.

> > >

> > > I guess I only read it at 1X. I will give it another try, My CPU is

> > > fine, but I have an old video card so maybe that is it.

> > >

> > > >

> > > > However, they also list the following "minimum" requirements:

> > > > Intel� Pentium� II 450MHz or faster processor (or equivalent)

> > > > 128MB of RAM

> > > >

> > > > --

> > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+

> > > > http://dts-l.net/

> > > > http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > "lb" <ldbrw@my-dejanews.com> wrote in message

> > > > news:424e0d78-9f52-4576-8de1-4bf29ca8bb7f@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...

> > > > >I have been experimenting with Firefox 2 and downloaded the latest

> > > > > flash player which was 9.0.124 or something like that. No complaints

> > > > > from the installer, but the outcome was pretty ugly. Corrupted video

> > > > > and bringing the browser to a crawl, I barely got it closed before it

> > > > > locked up my system. Going to the system requirements page, firefox 2

> > > > > was not listed for windows 98 for this version of flash player.

> > > > >

> > > > > Anyone know which player will work with 98 and FF 2?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks

> > >

>

Posted

Re: Which flash player for Firefox 2?

 

Guess I spoke too soon, it only works for some sites. If I use IE 6,

I do not have problems viewing the same file. IE 6 uses the same

version of flash player also. I would post pictures, but that is not

allowed here. I am using Firefox 2.0.0.16 which is the latest that

runs on 98.

 

Dan wrote:

> Well, I am glad it is now working well for you.

>

> "lb" wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > Dan wrote:

> > > The Ati 9800 XT works great in 98 Second Edition with ME drivers at least for

> > > me if you want a good decent graphics card that is currently supported at

> > > least for now. However, remember the modern driver downloads will all be for

> > > XP and Vista.

> >

> > I reinstalled the driver and all seems well now. I think it was a

> > website issue at the time.

> > I have a Voodoo 5500 AGP and do not really play games anymore so it

> > gets me by.

> >

> > >

> > > "lb" wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > glee wrote:

> > > > > The latest flash player *should* work with Firefox 2.x in Win98. There have been

> > > > > some reported issues, but I think they are more related to deficiencies in older

> > > > > video drivers in use on some 98 systems.

> > > > >

> > > > > The Flash Player system requirements page

> > > > > http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/productinfo/systemreqs/

> > > > > states for Win98:

> > > > > Firefox 1.x, Mozilla 1.x, Netscape 7.x or later

> > > > >

> > > > > That means Firefox 1.x or later, Mozilla 1.x or later, Netscape 7..x or later.

> > > > > Vendors tend to lump all Mozilla browsers into one inclusive sentence in their

> > > > > system requirements pages.

> > > >

> > > > I guess I only read it at 1X. I will give it another try, My CPU is

> > > > fine, but I have an old video card so maybe that is it.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > However, they also list the following "minimum" requirements:

> > > > > Intel� Pentium� II 450MHz or faster processor (or equivalent)

> > > > > 128MB of RAM

> > > > >

> > > > > --

> > > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+

> > > > > http://dts-l.net/

> > > > > http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > "lb" <ldbrw@my-dejanews.com> wrote in message

> > > > > news:424e0d78-9f52-4576-8de1-4bf29ca8bb7f@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...

> > > > > >I have been experimenting with Firefox 2 and downloaded the latest

> > > > > > flash player which was 9.0.124 or something like that. No complaints

> > > > > > from the installer, but the outcome was pretty ugly. Corrupted video

> > > > > > and bringing the browser to a crawl, I barely got it closed before it

> > > > > > locked up my system. Going to the system requirements page, firefox 2

> > > > > > was not listed for windows 98 for this version of flash player.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Anyone know which player will work with 98 and FF 2?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks

> > > >

> >

Posted

Re: Which flash player for Firefox 2?

 

Solution = upgrade your video card like I did --- ATI Radeon 9800 XT was the

best I could find for Windows 98 Second Edition and it uses Windows ME

drivers without any problem. BTW, I also use a all-in-one HP Printer that

uses Windows 2000 drivers without any problems.

 

Nvidia, I am biased against because their video card totally trashed an old

computer of mine when upgrading from a 3dfx card. Sure, it could have been

just a fluke but I like the little person and so ATI is for me.

 

However, with this custom built rig which originally was a Falcon Northwest

Computer which came with Windows 98 --- I have had Falcon NW update it at

first and then now I upgrade it with help of friend, Raymond first from

Tucson, Arizona and now friend Jeff from Albuquerque, New Mexico. Now you

all now where I live if you were not sure --- happy now ---- :-?

 

<BTW, originally from New York City -- Manhatten -- born and raised -- year

1975 -- year of Dan, Microsoft, and my favorite airplane the old-school A-10

Thunderbolt II (Warthog) which is in the process of being upgraded from

analog to digital --- awesome and the Raptor -- so cool and fast and so new

school but ch-ching -- very expensive. I know you guys are good so I bet you

know all about silly little guy Dan, now. <Right?!?>

 

 

 

"lb" wrote:

> Guess I spoke too soon, it only works for some sites. If I use IE 6,

> I do not have problems viewing the same file. IE 6 uses the same

> version of flash player also. I would post pictures, but that is not

> allowed here. I am using Firefox 2.0.0.16 which is the latest that

> runs on 98.

>

> Dan wrote:

> > Well, I am glad it is now working well for you.

> >

> > "lb" wrote:

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dan wrote:

> > > > The Ati 9800 XT works great in 98 Second Edition with ME drivers at least for

> > > > me if you want a good decent graphics card that is currently supported at

> > > > least for now. However, remember the modern driver downloads will all be for

> > > > XP and Vista.

> > >

> > > I reinstalled the driver and all seems well now. I think it was a

> > > website issue at the time.

> > > I have a Voodoo 5500 AGP and do not really play games anymore so it

> > > gets me by.

> > >

> > > >

> > > > "lb" wrote:

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > glee wrote:

> > > > > > The latest flash player *should* work with Firefox 2.x in Win98. There have been

> > > > > > some reported issues, but I think they are more related to deficiencies in older

> > > > > > video drivers in use on some 98 systems.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The Flash Player system requirements page

> > > > > > http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/productinfo/systemreqs/

> > > > > > states for Win98:

> > > > > > Firefox 1.x, Mozilla 1.x, Netscape 7.x or later

> > > > > >

> > > > > > That means Firefox 1.x or later, Mozilla 1.x or later, Netscape 7..x or later.

> > > > > > Vendors tend to lump all Mozilla browsers into one inclusive sentence in their

> > > > > > system requirements pages.

> > > > >

> > > > > I guess I only read it at 1X. I will give it another try, My CPU is

> > > > > fine, but I have an old video card so maybe that is it.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > However, they also list the following "minimum" requirements:

> > > > > > Intel� Pentium� II 450MHz or faster processor (or equivalent)

> > > > > > 128MB of RAM

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --

> > > > > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+

> > > > > > http://dts-l.net/

> > > > > > http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > "lb" <ldbrw@my-dejanews.com> wrote in message

> > > > > > news:424e0d78-9f52-4576-8de1-4bf29ca8bb7f@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...

> > > > > > >I have been experimenting with Firefox 2 and downloaded the latest

> > > > > > > flash player which was 9.0.124 or something like that. No complaints

> > > > > > > from the installer, but the outcome was pretty ugly. Corrupted video

> > > > > > > and bringing the browser to a crawl, I barely got it closed before it

> > > > > > > locked up my system. Going to the system requirements page, firefox 2

> > > > > > > was not listed for windows 98 for this version of flash player.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Anyone know which player will work with 98 and FF 2?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > >

> > >

>

Guest John Dulak
Posted

Re: Which flash player for Firefox 2?

 

lb wrote:

> Guess I spoke too soon, it only works for some sites. If I use IE 6,

> I do not have problems viewing the same file. IE 6 uses the same

> version of flash player also. I would post pictures, but that is not

> allowed here. I am using Firefox 2.0.0.16 which is the latest that

> runs on 98.

 

 

 

lb:

 

Try Coping the Flash dll (NPSWF23.DLL)from:

 

C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\Macromed\Flash\NPSWF32.DLL

 

To:

 

C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\plugins\NPSWF32.DLL

 

That was the only way I could get Firefox to recognize that flash was

installed. If you have the "Mr Tech" about:Plugins add on installed in

Firefox, Flash and the version number will show up in the list.

 

HTH & GL

 

John

 

 

--

\\\||///

------------------o000----(o)(o)----000o----------------

----------------------------()--------------------------

'' Madness takes its toll - Please have exact change. ''

 

John Dulak - Gnomeway Services - http://tinyurl.com/2qs6o6

Posted

Re: Which flash player for Firefox 2?

 

Yeah, Try John Dulak's idea first but my idea if you want a really good new

graphics video card for 98 Second Edition -- I bought mine new on ebay and it

runs like a champ -- posting in XP SP3 with I.E. 7 this time since certain

services require XP.

 

"John Dulak" wrote:

> lb wrote:

> > Guess I spoke too soon, it only works for some sites. If I use IE 6,

> > I do not have problems viewing the same file. IE 6 uses the same

> > version of flash player also. I would post pictures, but that is not

> > allowed here. I am using Firefox 2.0.0.16 which is the latest that

> > runs on 98.

>

>

>

> lb:

>

> Try Coping the Flash dll (NPSWF23.DLL)from:

>

> C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\Macromed\Flash\NPSWF32.DLL

>

> To:

>

> C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\plugins\NPSWF32.DLL

>

> That was the only way I could get Firefox to recognize that flash was

> installed. If you have the "Mr Tech" about:Plugins add on installed in

> Firefox, Flash and the version number will show up in the list.

>

> HTH & GL

>

> John

>

>

> --

> \\\||///

> ------------------o000----(o)(o)----000o----------------

> ----------------------------()--------------------------

> '' Madness takes its toll - Please have exact change. ''

>

> John Dulak - Gnomeway Services - http://tinyurl.com/2qs6o6

>

Posted

Re: Which flash player for Firefox 2?

 

That dll is already there, but thanks for the suggestion.

 

I have been giving the video card upgrade some thought for awhile

before this. This is a 6 year old computer that works well now, but

is showing signs of age. ie: onboard LAN and sound going out, having

to change PCI slots to get sound card recognized again. The computer

is fast though and does most everything I want it to.

 

I started experimenting with Firefox, because of the difficulties I

was having with IE locking up and displaying secure websites. The

lockups occur when I use a link within a page to open a new page. The

original page will lock up if left running in the background too

long. This only happens on certain sites and in most cases I can have

multiple windows open without any problems. It seems really strange

to me that the same site plays flash fine in IE but not in Firefox

using the same version of flash player. Makes me think that this is a

browser or flash issue. I sent a report to Firefox about this.

 

The videos on cnn.com are an example of a site I have had difficulties

with.

 

I have been looking on Ebay at cards, but am not willing to spend the

$60 or so for a new card and the used ones are going for around $30.

 

I am thinking that it is getting close to time to buy or build a new

computer, but I hate the bloat found in the newer OS'es.

 

Dan wrote:

> Yeah, Try John Dulak's idea first but my idea if you want a really good new

> graphics video card for 98 Second Edition -- I bought mine new on ebay and it

> runs like a champ -- posting in XP SP3 with I.E. 7 this time since certain

> services require XP.

>

> "John Dulak" wrote:

>

> > lb wrote:

> > > Guess I spoke too soon, it only works for some sites. If I use IE 6,

> > > I do not have problems viewing the same file. IE 6 uses the same

> > > version of flash player also. I would post pictures, but that is not

> > > allowed here. I am using Firefox 2.0.0.16 which is the latest that

> > > runs on 98.

> >

> >

> >

> > lb:

> >

> > Try Coping the Flash dll (NPSWF23.DLL)from:

> >

> > C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\Macromed\Flash\NPSWF32.DLL

> >

> > To:

> >

> > C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\plugins\NPSWF32.DLL

> >

> > That was the only way I could get Firefox to recognize that flash was

> > installed. If you have the "Mr Tech" about:Plugins add on installed in

> > Firefox, Flash and the version number will show up in the list.

> >

> > HTH & GL

> >

> > John

> >

> >

> > --

> > \\\||///

> > ------------------o000----(o)(o)----000o----------------

> > ----------------------------()--------------------------

> > '' Madness takes its toll - Please have exact change. ''

> >

> > John Dulak - Gnomeway Services - http://tinyurl.com/2qs6o6

> >

Posted

Re: Which flash player for Firefox 2?

 

Looks like I am not the only one with this problem, might be a Firefox

2.X issue.

http://groups.google.com/group/Firefox-Users/browse_thread/thread/3f047a18cd41f51d?hl=en

 

lb wrote:

> That dll is already there, but thanks for the suggestion.

>

> I have been giving the video card upgrade some thought for awhile

> before this. This is a 6 year old computer that works well now, but

> is showing signs of age. ie: onboard LAN and sound going out, having

> to change PCI slots to get sound card recognized again. The computer

> is fast though and does most everything I want it to.

>

> I started experimenting with Firefox, because of the difficulties I

> was having with IE locking up and displaying secure websites. The

> lockups occur when I use a link within a page to open a new page. The

> original page will lock up if left running in the background too

> long. This only happens on certain sites and in most cases I can have

> multiple windows open without any problems. It seems really strange

> to me that the same site plays flash fine in IE but not in Firefox

> using the same version of flash player. Makes me think that this is a

> browser or flash issue. I sent a report to Firefox about this.

>

> The videos on cnn.com are an example of a site I have had difficulties

> with.

>

> I have been looking on Ebay at cards, but am not willing to spend the

> $60 or so for a new card and the used ones are going for around $30.

>

> I am thinking that it is getting close to time to buy or build a new

> computer, but I hate the bloat found in the newer OS'es.

>

> Dan wrote:

> > Yeah, Try John Dulak's idea first but my idea if you want a really good new

> > graphics video card for 98 Second Edition -- I bought mine new on ebay and it

> > runs like a champ -- posting in XP SP3 with I.E. 7 this time since certain

> > services require XP.

> >

> > "John Dulak" wrote:

> >

> > > lb wrote:

> > > > Guess I spoke too soon, it only works for some sites. If I use IE 6,

> > > > I do not have problems viewing the same file. IE 6 uses the same

> > > > version of flash player also. I would post pictures, but that is not

> > > > allowed here. I am using Firefox 2.0.0.16 which is the latest that

> > > > runs on 98.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > lb:

> > >

> > > Try Coping the Flash dll (NPSWF23.DLL)from:

> > >

> > > C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\Macromed\Flash\NPSWF32.DLL

> > >

> > > To:

> > >

> > > C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\plugins\NPSWF32.DLL

> > >

> > > That was the only way I could get Firefox to recognize that flash was

> > > installed. If you have the "Mr Tech" about:Plugins add on installed in

> > > Firefox, Flash and the version number will show up in the list.

> > >

> > > HTH & GL

> > >

> > > John

> > >

> > >

> > > --

> > > \\\||///

> > > ------------------o000----(o)(o)----000o----------------

> > > ----------------------------()--------------------------

> > > '' Madness takes its toll - Please have exact change. ''

> > >

> > > John Dulak - Gnomeway Services - http://tinyurl.com/2qs6o6

> > >

Posted

Re: Which flash player for Firefox 2?

 

That's pretty funny, considering the reports that CNN videos play fine with FF2 but

not with FF3....the opposite of what your link stated:

 

Firefox 3 wouldn't play CNN video

http://support.mozilla.com/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?locale=nl&comments_parentId=69250&forumId=1

 

There might be some useful info there for you.

 

It looks to be a possible Extensions issue, though the add-ons involved may vary.

 

Do you have the Firefox Extensions IE Tab or IE View installed? or Toolbar

Buttons?

These are mentioned as being the problem for some.

 

Conversely, some report that installing the IE Tab extension and using it to view

the videos FIXES the issue for them.

 

Another report states to go to Firefox Preferences, under "Content" - "File Types",

select WMV and then for the application that you want to open it, select Windows

Media Player.

 

Here's another interesting thread on the issue:

http://www.windowsbbs.com/firefox-thunderbird-seamonkey/74849-ff3-cant-play-cnn-video.html

--

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+

http://dts-l.net/

http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

 

 

"lb" <ldbrw@my-dejanews.com> wrote in message

news:3762b0e6-7080-4fed-ba71-ce7f3950e6b4@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

> Looks like I am not the only one with this problem, might be a Firefox

> 2.X issue.

> http://groups.google.com/group/Firefox-Users/browse_thread/thread/3f047a18cd41f51d?hl=en

>

> lb wrote:

>> That dll is already there, but thanks for the suggestion.

>>

>> I have been giving the video card upgrade some thought for awhile

>> before this. This is a 6 year old computer that works well now, but

>> is showing signs of age. ie: onboard LAN and sound going out, having

>> to change PCI slots to get sound card recognized again. The computer

>> is fast though and does most everything I want it to.

>>

>> I started experimenting with Firefox, because of the difficulties I

>> was having with IE locking up and displaying secure websites. The

>> lockups occur when I use a link within a page to open a new page. The

>> original page will lock up if left running in the background too

>> long. This only happens on certain sites and in most cases I can have

>> multiple windows open without any problems. It seems really strange

>> to me that the same site plays flash fine in IE but not in Firefox

>> using the same version of flash player. Makes me think that this is a

>> browser or flash issue. I sent a report to Firefox about this.

>>

>> The videos on cnn.com are an example of a site I have had difficulties

>> with.

>>

>> I have been looking on Ebay at cards, but am not willing to spend the

>> $60 or so for a new card and the used ones are going for around $30.

>>

>> I am thinking that it is getting close to time to buy or build a new

>> computer, but I hate the bloat found in the newer OS'es.

>>

>> Dan wrote:

>> > Yeah, Try John Dulak's idea first but my idea if you want a really good new

>> > graphics video card for 98 Second Edition -- I bought mine new on ebay and it

>> > runs like a champ -- posting in XP SP3 with I.E. 7 this time since certain

>> > services require XP.

>> >

>> > "John Dulak" wrote:

>> >

>> > > lb wrote:

>> > > > Guess I spoke too soon, it only works for some sites. If I use IE 6,

>> > > > I do not have problems viewing the same file. IE 6 uses the same

>> > > > version of flash player also. I would post pictures, but that is not

>> > > > allowed here. I am using Firefox 2.0.0.16 which is the latest that

>> > > > runs on 98.

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > lb:

>> > >

>> > > Try Coping the Flash dll (NPSWF23.DLL)from:

>> > >

>> > > C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\Macromed\Flash\NPSWF32.DLL

>> > >

>> > > To:

>> > >

>> > > C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\plugins\NPSWF32.DLL

>> > >

>> > > That was the only way I could get Firefox to recognize that flash was

>> > > installed. If you have the "Mr Tech" about:Plugins add on installed in

>> > > Firefox, Flash and the version number will show up in the list.

>> > >

>> > > HTH & GL

>> > >

>> > > John

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > --

>> > > \\\||///

>> > > ------------------o000----(o)(o)----000o----------------

>> > > ----------------------------()--------------------------

>> > > '' Madness takes its toll - Please have exact change. ''

>> > >

>> > > John Dulak - Gnomeway Services - http://tinyurl.com/2qs6o6

>> > >

Posted

Re: Which flash player for Firefox 2?

 

Interesting, it never said whether the install of FF3 worked or not so

I assumed that it did. I have not as yet installed the IE tab. I

have another webite from weather.com which draws a fishing forecast

graph using flash that is also corrupted with FF2.

 

http://www.weather.com/activities/recreation/outdoors/fishing/?from=breadcrumbs

 

Thanks for the reply, yesterday I sent in a bug report using their

contact us/free videos link.

 

glee wrote:

> That's pretty funny, considering the reports that CNN videos play fine with FF2 but

> not with FF3....the opposite of what your link stated:

>

> Firefox 3 wouldn't play CNN video

> http://support.mozilla.com/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?locale=nl&comments_parentId=69250&forumId=1

>

> There might be some useful info there for you.

>

> It looks to be a possible Extensions issue, though the add-ons involved may vary.

>

> Do you have the Firefox Extensions IE Tab or IE View installed? or Toolbar

> Buttons?

> These are mentioned as being the problem for some.

>

> Conversely, some report that installing the IE Tab extension and using it to view

> the videos FIXES the issue for them.

>

> Another report states to go to Firefox Preferences, under "Content" - "File Types",

> select WMV and then for the application that you want to open it, select Windows

> Media Player.

>

> Here's another interesting thread on the issue:

> http://www.windowsbbs.com/firefox-thunderbird-seamonkey/74849-ff3-cant-play-cnn-video.html

> --

> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+

> http://dts-l.net/

> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

>

>

> "lb" <ldbrw@my-dejanews.com> wrote in message

> news:3762b0e6-7080-4fed-ba71-ce7f3950e6b4@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

> > Looks like I am not the only one with this problem, might be a Firefox

> > 2.X issue.

> > http://groups.google.com/group/Firefox-Users/browse_thread/thread/3f047a18cd41f51d?hl=en

> >

> > lb wrote:

> >> That dll is already there, but thanks for the suggestion.

> >>

> >> I have been giving the video card upgrade some thought for awhile

> >> before this. This is a 6 year old computer that works well now, but

> >> is showing signs of age. ie: onboard LAN and sound going out, having

> >> to change PCI slots to get sound card recognized again. The computer

> >> is fast though and does most everything I want it to.

> >>

> >> I started experimenting with Firefox, because of the difficulties I

> >> was having with IE locking up and displaying secure websites. The

> >> lockups occur when I use a link within a page to open a new page. The

> >> original page will lock up if left running in the background too

> >> long. This only happens on certain sites and in most cases I can have

> >> multiple windows open without any problems. It seems really strange

> >> to me that the same site plays flash fine in IE but not in Firefox

> >> using the same version of flash player. Makes me think that this is a

> >> browser or flash issue. I sent a report to Firefox about this.

> >>

> >> The videos on cnn.com are an example of a site I have had difficulties

> >> with.

> >>

> >> I have been looking on Ebay at cards, but am not willing to spend the

> >> $60 or so for a new card and the used ones are going for around $30.

> >>

> >> I am thinking that it is getting close to time to buy or build a new

> >> computer, but I hate the bloat found in the newer OS'es.

> >>

> >> Dan wrote:

> >> > Yeah, Try John Dulak's idea first but my idea if you want a really good new

> >> > graphics video card for 98 Second Edition -- I bought mine new on ebay and it

> >> > runs like a champ -- posting in XP SP3 with I.E. 7 this time since certain

> >> > services require XP.

> >> >

> >> > "John Dulak" wrote:

> >> >

> >> > > lb wrote:

> >> > > > Guess I spoke too soon, it only works for some sites. If I use IE 6,

> >> > > > I do not have problems viewing the same file. IE 6 uses the same

> >> > > > version of flash player also. I would post pictures, but that is not

> >> > > > allowed here. I am using Firefox 2.0.0.16 which is the latest that

> >> > > > runs on 98.

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > > lb:

> >> > >

> >> > > Try Coping the Flash dll (NPSWF23.DLL)from:

> >> > >

> >> > > C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\Macromed\Flash\NPSWF32.DLL

> >> > >

> >> > > To:

> >> > >

> >> > > C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\plugins\NPSWF32.DLL

> >> > >

> >> > > That was the only way I could get Firefox to recognize that flash was

> >> > > installed. If you have the "Mr Tech" about:Plugins add on installed in

> >> > > Firefox, Flash and the version number will show up in the list.

> >> > >

> >> > > HTH & GL

> >> > >

> >> > > John

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > > --

> >> > > \\\||///

> >> > > ------------------o000----(o)(o)----000o----------------

> >> > > ----------------------------()--------------------------

> >> > > '' Madness takes its toll - Please have exact change. ''

> >> > >

> >> > > John Dulak - Gnomeway Services - http://tinyurl.com/2qs6o6

> >> > >

Posted

Re: Which flash player for Firefox 2?

 

 

 

glee wrote:

> That's pretty funny, considering the reports that CNN videos play fine with FF2 but

> not with FF3....the opposite of what your link stated:

>

> Firefox 3 wouldn't play CNN video

> http://support.mozilla.com/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?locale=nl&comments_parentId=69250&forumId=1

>

> There might be some useful info there for you.

>

> It looks to be a possible Extensions issue, though the add-ons involved may vary.

>

> Do you have the Firefox Extensions IE Tab or IE View installed? or Toolbar

> Buttons?

> These are mentioned as being the problem for some.

>

> Conversely, some report that installing the IE Tab extension and using it to view

> the videos FIXES the issue for them.

 

I installed the IE tab and that has yielded what I hope is just a

temporary solution until this issue gets repaired.

 

Thanks to all.

>

> Another report states to go to Firefox Preferences, under "Content" - "File Types",

> select WMV and then for the application that you want to open it, select Windows

> Media Player.

>

> Here's another interesting thread on the issue:

> http://www.windowsbbs.com/firefox-thunderbird-seamonkey/74849-ff3-cant-play-cnn-video.html

> --

> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+

> http://dts-l.net/

> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

>

>

> "lb" <ldbrw@my-dejanews.com> wrote in message

> news:3762b0e6-7080-4fed-ba71-ce7f3950e6b4@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

> > Looks like I am not the only one with this problem, might be a Firefox

> > 2.X issue.

> > http://groups.google.com/group/Firefox-Users/browse_thread/thread/3f047a18cd41f51d?hl=en

> >

> > lb wrote:

> >> That dll is already there, but thanks for the suggestion.

> >>

> >> I have been giving the video card upgrade some thought for awhile

> >> before this. This is a 6 year old computer that works well now, but

> >> is showing signs of age. ie: onboard LAN and sound going out, having

> >> to change PCI slots to get sound card recognized again. The computer

> >> is fast though and does most everything I want it to.

> >>

> >> I started experimenting with Firefox, because of the difficulties I

> >> was having with IE locking up and displaying secure websites. The

> >> lockups occur when I use a link within a page to open a new page. The

> >> original page will lock up if left running in the background too

> >> long. This only happens on certain sites and in most cases I can have

> >> multiple windows open without any problems. It seems really strange

> >> to me that the same site plays flash fine in IE but not in Firefox

> >> using the same version of flash player. Makes me think that this is a

> >> browser or flash issue. I sent a report to Firefox about this.

> >>

> >> The videos on cnn.com are an example of a site I have had difficulties

> >> with.

> >>

> >> I have been looking on Ebay at cards, but am not willing to spend the

> >> $60 or so for a new card and the used ones are going for around $30.

> >>

> >> I am thinking that it is getting close to time to buy or build a new

> >> computer, but I hate the bloat found in the newer OS'es.

> >>

> >> Dan wrote:

> >> > Yeah, Try John Dulak's idea first but my idea if you want a really good new

> >> > graphics video card for 98 Second Edition -- I bought mine new on ebay and it

> >> > runs like a champ -- posting in XP SP3 with I.E. 7 this time since certain

> >> > services require XP.

> >> >

> >> > "John Dulak" wrote:

> >> >

> >> > > lb wrote:

> >> > > > Guess I spoke too soon, it only works for some sites. If I use IE 6,

> >> > > > I do not have problems viewing the same file. IE 6 uses the same

> >> > > > version of flash player also. I would post pictures, but that is not

> >> > > > allowed here. I am using Firefox 2.0.0.16 which is the latest that

> >> > > > runs on 98.

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > > lb:

> >> > >

> >> > > Try Coping the Flash dll (NPSWF23.DLL)from:

> >> > >

> >> > > C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\Macromed\Flash\NPSWF32.DLL

> >> > >

> >> > > To:

> >> > >

> >> > > C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\plugins\NPSWF32.DLL

> >> > >

> >> > > That was the only way I could get Firefox to recognize that flash was

> >> > > installed. If you have the "Mr Tech" about:Plugins add on installed in

> >> > > Firefox, Flash and the version number will show up in the list.

> >> > >

> >> > > HTH & GL

> >> > >

> >> > > John

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > > --

> >> > > \\\||///

> >> > > ------------------o000----(o)(o)----000o----------------

> >> > > ----------------------------()--------------------------

> >> > > '' Madness takes its toll - Please have exact change. ''

> >> > >

> >> > > John Dulak - Gnomeway Services - http://tinyurl.com/2qs6o6

> >> > >

Posted

Re: Which flash player for Firefox 2?

 

FYI:

I also found another fix which basically answered my original

question. I removed player 124 and installed player 45 and now it

seems to work fine. I did not try any more recent players as I found

this solution for someone elses problem and and acheived success, so I

left it.

 

lb wrote:

> glee wrote:

> > That's pretty funny, considering the reports that CNN videos play fine with FF2 but

> > not with FF3....the opposite of what your link stated:

> >

> > Firefox 3 wouldn't play CNN video

> > http://support.mozilla.com/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?locale=nl&comments_parentId=69250&forumId=1

> >

> > There might be some useful info there for you.

> >

> > It looks to be a possible Extensions issue, though the add-ons involved may vary.

> >

> > Do you have the Firefox Extensions IE Tab or IE View installed? or Toolbar

> > Buttons?

> > These are mentioned as being the problem for some.

> >

> > Conversely, some report that installing the IE Tab extension and using it to view

> > the videos FIXES the issue for them.

>

> I installed the IE tab and that has yielded what I hope is just a

> temporary solution until this issue gets repaired.

>

> Thanks to all.

>

> >

> > Another report states to go to Firefox Preferences, under "Content" - "File Types",

> > select WMV and then for the application that you want to open it, select Windows

> > Media Player.

> >

> > Here's another interesting thread on the issue:

> > http://www.windowsbbs.com/firefox-thunderbird-seamonkey/74849-ff3-cant-play-cnn-video.html

> > --

> > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+

> > http://dts-l.net/

> > http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

> >

> >

> > "lb" <ldbrw@my-dejanews.com> wrote in message

> > news:3762b0e6-7080-4fed-ba71-ce7f3950e6b4@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

> > > Looks like I am not the only one with this problem, might be a Firefox

> > > 2.X issue.

> > > http://groups.google.com/group/Firefox-Users/browse_thread/thread/3f047a18cd41f51d?hl=en

> > >

> > > lb wrote:

> > >> That dll is already there, but thanks for the suggestion.

> > >>

> > >> I have been giving the video card upgrade some thought for awhile

> > >> before this. This is a 6 year old computer that works well now, but

> > >> is showing signs of age. ie: onboard LAN and sound going out, having

> > >> to change PCI slots to get sound card recognized again. The computer

> > >> is fast though and does most everything I want it to.

> > >>

> > >> I started experimenting with Firefox, because of the difficulties I

> > >> was having with IE locking up and displaying secure websites. The

> > >> lockups occur when I use a link within a page to open a new page. The

> > >> original page will lock up if left running in the background too

> > >> long. This only happens on certain sites and in most cases I can have

> > >> multiple windows open without any problems. It seems really strange

> > >> to me that the same site plays flash fine in IE but not in Firefox

> > >> using the same version of flash player. Makes me think that this is a

> > >> browser or flash issue. I sent a report to Firefox about this.

> > >>

> > >> The videos on cnn.com are an example of a site I have had difficulties

> > >> with.

> > >>

> > >> I have been looking on Ebay at cards, but am not willing to spend the

> > >> $60 or so for a new card and the used ones are going for around $30.

> > >>

> > >> I am thinking that it is getting close to time to buy or build a new

> > >> computer, but I hate the bloat found in the newer OS'es.

> > >>

> > >> Dan wrote:

> > >> > Yeah, Try John Dulak's idea first but my idea if you want a really good new

> > >> > graphics video card for 98 Second Edition -- I bought mine new on ebay and it

> > >> > runs like a champ -- posting in XP SP3 with I.E. 7 this time since certain

> > >> > services require XP.

> > >> >

> > >> > "John Dulak" wrote:

> > >> >

> > >> > > lb wrote:

> > >> > > > Guess I spoke too soon, it only works for some sites. If I use IE 6,

> > >> > > > I do not have problems viewing the same file. IE 6 uses the same

> > >> > > > version of flash player also. I would post pictures, but that is not

> > >> > > > allowed here. I am using Firefox 2.0.0.16 which is the latest that

> > >> > > > runs on 98.

> > >> > >

> > >> > >

> > >> > >

> > >> > > lb:

> > >> > >

> > >> > > Try Coping the Flash dll (NPSWF23.DLL)from:

> > >> > >

> > >> > > C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\Macromed\Flash\NPSWF32.DLL

> > >> > >

> > >> > > To:

> > >> > >

> > >> > > C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\plugins\NPSWF32.DLL

> > >> > >

> > >> > > That was the only way I could get Firefox to recognize that flash was

> > >> > > installed. If you have the "Mr Tech" about:Plugins add on installed in

> > >> > > Firefox, Flash and the version number will show up in the list.

> > >> > >

> > >> > > HTH & GL

> > >> > >

> > >> > > John

> > >> > >

> > >> > >

> > >> > > --

> > >> > > \\\||///

> > >> > > ------------------o000----(o)(o)----000o----------------

> > >> > > ----------------------------()--------------------------

> > >> > > '' Madness takes its toll - Please have exact change. ''

> > >> > >

> > >> > > John Dulak - Gnomeway Services - http://tinyurl.com/2qs6o6

> > >> > >

Posted

Re: Which flash player for Firefox 2?

 

OK....you removed Flash Player 9.0.124 and replaced it with version 9.0.45?

Good luck with that. You have now left yourself open to the following

vulnerabilities in that version, which were patched in later versions, up to

9.0.124:

 

Adobe Flash Player HTTP Response Splitting Vulnerability

2008-07-15

http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26969

 

Adobe Flash Player ActiveX Control 'navigateToURL' API Cross Domain Scripting

Vulnerability

2008-07-15

http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26960

 

Adobe Flash Player DNS Rebinding Vulnerability

2008-07-15

http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26930

 

Adobe Flash Player Unspecified DNS Rebinding Vulnerability

2008-07-15

http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/28697

 

Adobe Flash Player 'asfunction' Cross Site Scripting Vulnerability

2008-07-15

http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26949

 

Adobe Flash Player Policy File Cross Domain Security Bypass Vulnerability

2008-07-15

http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26966

 

Adobe Flash Player Unspecified Privilege-Escalation Vulnerability

2008-07-15

http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26965

 

Adobe Flash Player Multimedia File Remote Buffer Overflow Vulnerability

2008-07-15

http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/28695

 

Adobe Flash Player Arbitrary Cross Domain HTTP Request Headers Security

Vulnerability

2008-07-15

http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/28696

 

Adobe Flash Player SWF File 'DeclareFunction2' ActionScript Tag Remote Code

Execution Vulnerability

2008-07-15

http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/28694

 

Adobe Flash Player On Opera Browser For Mac OSX Unspecified Vulnerability

2008-07-15

http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26274

 

Adobe Flash Player SWFs in Dreamweaver and Acrobat Unspecified Cross-Site Scripting

Vulnerabilities

2008-07-15

http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/27034

 

Adobe Flash Player JPG Header Remote Heap Based Buffer Overflow Vulnerability

2008-07-15

http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26951

 

Retired: Adobe Flash Player Multiple Security Vulnerabilities

2007-12-21

http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26929

 

Opera Web Browser Running Adobe Flash Player Information Disclosure Vulnerability

2007-12-18

http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/23437

 

Adobe Flash Player SWF File Handling Remote Code Execution Vulnerability

2007-12-18

http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/24856

 

--

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+

http://dts-l.net/

http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

 

 

"lb" <ldbrw@my-dejanews.com> wrote in message

news:feec8237-e508-4743-841f-89bf942ea99a@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...

> FYI:

> I also found another fix which basically answered my original

> question. I removed player 124 and installed player 45 and now it

> seems to work fine. I did not try any more recent players as I found

> this solution for someone elses problem and and acheived success, so I

> left it.

>

> lb wrote:

>> glee wrote:

>> > That's pretty funny, considering the reports that CNN videos play fine with FF2

>> > but

>> > not with FF3....the opposite of what your link stated:

>> >

>> > Firefox 3 wouldn't play CNN video

>> > http://support.mozilla.com/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?locale=nl&comments_parentId=69250&forumId=1

>> >

>> > There might be some useful info there for you.

>> >

>> > It looks to be a possible Extensions issue, though the add-ons involved may

>> > vary.

>> >

>> > Do you have the Firefox Extensions IE Tab or IE View installed? or Toolbar

>> > Buttons?

>> > These are mentioned as being the problem for some.

>> >

>> > Conversely, some report that installing the IE Tab extension and using it to

>> > view

>> > the videos FIXES the issue for them.

>>

>> I installed the IE tab and that has yielded what I hope is just a

>> temporary solution until this issue gets repaired.

>>

>> Thanks to all.

>>

>> >

>> > Another report states to go to Firefox Preferences, under "Content" - "File

>> > Types",

>> > select WMV and then for the application that you want to open it, select

>> > Windows

>> > Media Player.

>> >

>> > Here's another interesting thread on the issue:

>> > http://www.windowsbbs.com/firefox-thunderbird-seamonkey/74849-ff3-cant-play-cnn-video.html

>> > --

>> > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+

>> > http://dts-l.net/

>> > http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

>> >

>> >

>> > "lb" <ldbrw@my-dejanews.com> wrote in message

>> > news:3762b0e6-7080-4fed-ba71-ce7f3950e6b4@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

>> > > Looks like I am not the only one with this problem, might be a Firefox

>> > > 2.X issue.

>> > > http://groups.google.com/group/Firefox-Users/browse_thread/thread/3f047a18cd41f51d?hl=en

>> > >

>> > > lb wrote:

>> > >> That dll is already there, but thanks for the suggestion.

>> > >>

>> > >> I have been giving the video card upgrade some thought for awhile

>> > >> before this. This is a 6 year old computer that works well now, but

>> > >> is showing signs of age. ie: onboard LAN and sound going out, having

>> > >> to change PCI slots to get sound card recognized again. The computer

>> > >> is fast though and does most everything I want it to.

>> > >>

>> > >> I started experimenting with Firefox, because of the difficulties I

>> > >> was having with IE locking up and displaying secure websites. The

>> > >> lockups occur when I use a link within a page to open a new page. The

>> > >> original page will lock up if left running in the background too

>> > >> long. This only happens on certain sites and in most cases I can have

>> > >> multiple windows open without any problems. It seems really strange

>> > >> to me that the same site plays flash fine in IE but not in Firefox

>> > >> using the same version of flash player. Makes me think that this is a

>> > >> browser or flash issue. I sent a report to Firefox about this.

>> > >>

>> > >> The videos on cnn.com are an example of a site I have had difficulties

>> > >> with.

>> > >>

>> > >> I have been looking on Ebay at cards, but am not willing to spend the

>> > >> $60 or so for a new card and the used ones are going for around $30.

>> > >>

>> > >> I am thinking that it is getting close to time to buy or build a new

>> > >> computer, but I hate the bloat found in the newer OS'es.

>> > >>

>> > >> Dan wrote:

>> > >> > Yeah, Try John Dulak's idea first but my idea if you want a really good

>> > >> > new

>> > >> > graphics video card for 98 Second Edition -- I bought mine new on ebay and

>> > >> > it

>> > >> > runs like a champ -- posting in XP SP3 with I.E. 7 this time since certain

>> > >> > services require XP.

>> > >> >

>> > >> > "John Dulak" wrote:

>> > >> >

>> > >> > > lb wrote:

>> > >> > > > Guess I spoke too soon, it only works for some sites. If I use IE 6,

>> > >> > > > I do not have problems viewing the same file. IE 6 uses the same

>> > >> > > > version of flash player also. I would post pictures, but that is not

>> > >> > > > allowed here. I am using Firefox 2.0.0.16 which is the latest that

>> > >> > > > runs on 98.

>> > >> > >

>> > >> > >

>> > >> > >

>> > >> > > lb:

>> > >> > >

>> > >> > > Try Coping the Flash dll (NPSWF23.DLL)from:

>> > >> > >

>> > >> > > C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\Macromed\Flash\NPSWF32.DLL

>> > >> > >

>> > >> > > To:

>> > >> > >

>> > >> > > C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\plugins\NPSWF32.DLL

>> > >> > >

>> > >> > > That was the only way I could get Firefox to recognize that flash was

>> > >> > > installed. If you have the "Mr Tech" about:Plugins add on installed in

>> > >> > > Firefox, Flash and the version number will show up in the list.

>> > >> > >

>> > >> > > HTH & GL

>> > >> > >

>> > >> > > John

>> > >> > >

>> > >> > >

>> > >> > > --

>> > >> > > \\\||///

>> > >> > > ------------------o000----(o)(o)----000o----------------

>> > >> > > ----------------------------()--------------------------

>> > >> > > '' Madness takes its toll - Please have exact change. ''

>> > >> > >

>> > >> > > John Dulak - Gnomeway Services - http://tinyurl.com/2qs6o6

>> > >> > >

Posted

Re: Which flash player for Firefox 2?

 

I figured that this may be the case. Perhaps you can tell me how to

complain to Adobe about this. I have been all over their website and

cannot find a way for an individual consumer to contact them. All I

can do is contact the websites that use their player and hope that

they will do something about it.

 

I am still using version 124 in IE. I may try other versions with

Firefox 2. Unfortunately their removal tool deletes all versions so

both must be installed again.

 

How many of these vulnerabilities ultimately affect Windows 98SE?

 

glee wrote:

> OK....you removed Flash Player 9.0.124 and replaced it with version 9.0.45?

> Good luck with that. You have now left yourself open to the following

> vulnerabilities in that version, which were patched in later versions, up to

> 9.0.124:

>

> Adobe Flash Player HTTP Response Splitting Vulnerability

> 2008-07-15

> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26969

>

> Adobe Flash Player ActiveX Control 'navigateToURL' API Cross Domain Scripting

> Vulnerability

> 2008-07-15

> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26960

>

> Adobe Flash Player DNS Rebinding Vulnerability

> 2008-07-15

> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26930

>

> Adobe Flash Player Unspecified DNS Rebinding Vulnerability

> 2008-07-15

> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/28697

>

> Adobe Flash Player 'asfunction' Cross Site Scripting Vulnerability

> 2008-07-15

> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26949

>

> Adobe Flash Player Policy File Cross Domain Security Bypass Vulnerability

> 2008-07-15

> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26966

>

> Adobe Flash Player Unspecified Privilege-Escalation Vulnerability

> 2008-07-15

> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26965

>

> Adobe Flash Player Multimedia File Remote Buffer Overflow Vulnerability

> 2008-07-15

> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/28695

>

> Adobe Flash Player Arbitrary Cross Domain HTTP Request Headers Security

> Vulnerability

> 2008-07-15

> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/28696

>

> Adobe Flash Player SWF File 'DeclareFunction2' ActionScript Tag Remote Code

> Execution Vulnerability

> 2008-07-15

> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/28694

>

> Adobe Flash Player On Opera Browser For Mac OSX Unspecified Vulnerability

> 2008-07-15

> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26274

>

> Adobe Flash Player SWFs in Dreamweaver and Acrobat Unspecified Cross-Site Scripting

> Vulnerabilities

> 2008-07-15

> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/27034

>

> Adobe Flash Player JPG Header Remote Heap Based Buffer Overflow Vulnerability

> 2008-07-15

> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26951

>

> Retired: Adobe Flash Player Multiple Security Vulnerabilities

> 2007-12-21

> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26929

>

> Opera Web Browser Running Adobe Flash Player Information Disclosure Vulnerability

> 2007-12-18

> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/23437

>

> Adobe Flash Player SWF File Handling Remote Code Execution Vulnerability

> 2007-12-18

> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/24856

>

> --

> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+

> http://dts-l.net/

> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

>

>

> "lb" <ldbrw@my-dejanews.com> wrote in message

> news:feec8237-e508-4743-841f-89bf942ea99a@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...

> > FYI:

> > I also found another fix which basically answered my original

> > question. I removed player 124 and installed player 45 and now it

> > seems to work fine. I did not try any more recent players as I found

> > this solution for someone elses problem and and acheived success, so I

> > left it.

> >

> > lb wrote:

> >> glee wrote:

> >> > That's pretty funny, considering the reports that CNN videos play fine with FF2

> >> > but

> >> > not with FF3....the opposite of what your link stated:

> >> >

> >> > Firefox 3 wouldn't play CNN video

> >> > http://support.mozilla.com/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?locale=nl&comments_parentId=69250&forumId=1

> >> >

> >> > There might be some useful info there for you.

> >> >

> >> > It looks to be a possible Extensions issue, though the add-ons involved may

> >> > vary.

> >> >

> >> > Do you have the Firefox Extensions IE Tab or IE View installed? or Toolbar

> >> > Buttons?

> >> > These are mentioned as being the problem for some.

> >> >

> >> > Conversely, some report that installing the IE Tab extension and using it to

> >> > view

> >> > the videos FIXES the issue for them.

> >>

> >> I installed the IE tab and that has yielded what I hope is just a

> >> temporary solution until this issue gets repaired.

> >>

> >> Thanks to all.

> >>

> >> >

> >> > Another report states to go to Firefox Preferences, under "Content" - "File

> >> > Types",

> >> > select WMV and then for the application that you want to open it, select

> >> > Windows

> >> > Media Player.

> >> >

> >> > Here's another interesting thread on the issue:

> >> > http://www.windowsbbs.com/firefox-thunderbird-seamonkey/74849-ff3-cant-play-cnn-video.html

> >> > --

> >> > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+

> >> > http://dts-l.net/

> >> > http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > "lb" <ldbrw@my-dejanews.com> wrote in message

> >> > news:3762b0e6-7080-4fed-ba71-ce7f3950e6b4@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

> >> > > Looks like I am not the only one with this problem, might be a Firefox

> >> > > 2.X issue.

> >> > > http://groups.google.com/group/Firefox-Users/browse_thread/thread/3f047a18cd41f51d?hl=en

> >> > >

> >> > > lb wrote:

> >> > >> That dll is already there, but thanks for the suggestion.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> I have been giving the video card upgrade some thought for awhile

> >> > >> before this. This is a 6 year old computer that works well now, but

> >> > >> is showing signs of age. ie: onboard LAN and sound going out, having

> >> > >> to change PCI slots to get sound card recognized again. The computer

> >> > >> is fast though and does most everything I want it to.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> I started experimenting with Firefox, because of the difficulties I

> >> > >> was having with IE locking up and displaying secure websites. The

> >> > >> lockups occur when I use a link within a page to open a new page. The

> >> > >> original page will lock up if left running in the background too

> >> > >> long. This only happens on certain sites and in most cases I can have

> >> > >> multiple windows open without any problems. It seems really strange

> >> > >> to me that the same site plays flash fine in IE but not in Firefox

> >> > >> using the same version of flash player. Makes me think that this is a

> >> > >> browser or flash issue. I sent a report to Firefox about this.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> The videos on cnn.com are an example of a site I have had difficulties

> >> > >> with.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> I have been looking on Ebay at cards, but am not willing to spend the

> >> > >> $60 or so for a new card and the used ones are going for around $30.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> I am thinking that it is getting close to time to buy or build a new

> >> > >> computer, but I hate the bloat found in the newer OS'es.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Dan wrote:

> >> > >> > Yeah, Try John Dulak's idea first but my idea if you want a really good

> >> > >> > new

> >> > >> > graphics video card for 98 Second Edition -- I bought mine new on ebay and

> >> > >> > it

> >> > >> > runs like a champ -- posting in XP SP3 with I.E. 7 this time since certain

> >> > >> > services require XP.

> >> > >> >

> >> > >> > "John Dulak" wrote:

> >> > >> >

> >> > >> > > lb wrote:

> >> > >> > > > Guess I spoke too soon, it only works for some sites. If I use IE 6,

> >> > >> > > > I do not have problems viewing the same file. IE 6 uses the same

> >> > >> > > > version of flash player also. I would post pictures, but that is not

> >> > >> > > > allowed here. I am using Firefox 2.0.0.16 which is the latest that

> >> > >> > > > runs on 98.

> >> > >> > >

> >> > >> > >

> >> > >> > >

> >> > >> > > lb:

> >> > >> > >

> >> > >> > > Try Coping the Flash dll (NPSWF23.DLL)from:

> >> > >> > >

> >> > >> > > C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\Macromed\Flash\NPSWF32.DLL

> >> > >> > >

> >> > >> > > To:

> >> > >> > >

> >> > >> > > C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\plugins\NPSWF32.DLL

> >> > >> > >

> >> > >> > > That was the only way I could get Firefox to recognize that flash was

> >> > >> > > installed. If you have the "Mr Tech" about:Plugins add on installed in

> >> > >> > > Firefox, Flash and the version number will show up in the list.

> >> > >> > >

> >> > >> > > HTH & GL

> >> > >> > >

> >> > >> > > John

> >> > >> > >

> >> > >> > >

> >> > >> > > --

> >> > >> > > \\\||///

> >> > >> > > ------------------o000----(o)(o)----000o----------------

> >> > >> > > ----------------------------()--------------------------

> >> > >> > > '' Madness takes its toll - Please have exact change. ''

> >> > >> > >

> >> > >> > > John Dulak - Gnomeway Services - http://tinyurl.com/2qs6o6

> >> > >> > >

Guest Gary S. Terhune
Posted

Re: Which flash player for Firefox 2?

 

Hundreds. That's why Windows 98 is obsolete. Deliberate on the part of

manufacturers or not, the facts are the facts.

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://grystmill.com

 

"lb" <ldbrw@my-dejanews.com> wrote in message

news:2337e24d-a8d2-43eb-ab7f-8c0e98815cff@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...

> I figured that this may be the case. Perhaps you can tell me how to

> complain to Adobe about this. I have been all over their website and

> cannot find a way for an individual consumer to contact them. All I

> can do is contact the websites that use their player and hope that

> they will do something about it.

>

> I am still using version 124 in IE. I may try other versions with

> Firefox 2. Unfortunately their removal tool deletes all versions so

> both must be installed again.

>

> How many of these vulnerabilities ultimately affect Windows 98SE?

>

> glee wrote:

>> OK....you removed Flash Player 9.0.124 and replaced it with version

>> 9.0.45?

>> Good luck with that. You have now left yourself open to the following

>> vulnerabilities in that version, which were patched in later versions, up

>> to

>> 9.0.124:

>>

>> Adobe Flash Player HTTP Response Splitting Vulnerability

>> 2008-07-15

>> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26969

>>

>> Adobe Flash Player ActiveX Control 'navigateToURL' API Cross Domain

>> Scripting

>> Vulnerability

>> 2008-07-15

>> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26960

>>

>> Adobe Flash Player DNS Rebinding Vulnerability

>> 2008-07-15

>> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26930

>>

>> Adobe Flash Player Unspecified DNS Rebinding Vulnerability

>> 2008-07-15

>> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/28697

>>

>> Adobe Flash Player 'asfunction' Cross Site Scripting Vulnerability

>> 2008-07-15

>> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26949

>>

>> Adobe Flash Player Policy File Cross Domain Security Bypass Vulnerability

>> 2008-07-15

>> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26966

>>

>> Adobe Flash Player Unspecified Privilege-Escalation Vulnerability

>> 2008-07-15

>> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26965

>>

>> Adobe Flash Player Multimedia File Remote Buffer Overflow Vulnerability

>> 2008-07-15

>> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/28695

>>

>> Adobe Flash Player Arbitrary Cross Domain HTTP Request Headers Security

>> Vulnerability

>> 2008-07-15

>> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/28696

>>

>> Adobe Flash Player SWF File 'DeclareFunction2' ActionScript Tag Remote

>> Code

>> Execution Vulnerability

>> 2008-07-15

>> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/28694

>>

>> Adobe Flash Player On Opera Browser For Mac OSX Unspecified Vulnerability

>> 2008-07-15

>> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26274

>>

>> Adobe Flash Player SWFs in Dreamweaver and Acrobat Unspecified Cross-Site

>> Scripting

>> Vulnerabilities

>> 2008-07-15

>> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/27034

>>

>> Adobe Flash Player JPG Header Remote Heap Based Buffer Overflow

>> Vulnerability

>> 2008-07-15

>> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26951

>>

>> Retired: Adobe Flash Player Multiple Security Vulnerabilities

>> 2007-12-21

>> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26929

>>

>> Opera Web Browser Running Adobe Flash Player Information Disclosure

>> Vulnerability

>> 2007-12-18

>> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/23437

>>

>> Adobe Flash Player SWF File Handling Remote Code Execution Vulnerability

>> 2007-12-18

>> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/24856

>>

>> --

>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+

>> http://dts-l.net/

>> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

>>

>>

>> "lb" <ldbrw@my-dejanews.com> wrote in message

>> news:feec8237-e508-4743-841f-89bf942ea99a@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...

>> > FYI:

>> > I also found another fix which basically answered my original

>> > question. I removed player 124 and installed player 45 and now it

>> > seems to work fine. I did not try any more recent players as I found

>> > this solution for someone elses problem and and acheived success, so I

>> > left it.

>> >

>> > lb wrote:

>> >> glee wrote:

>> >> > That's pretty funny, considering the reports that CNN videos play

>> >> > fine with FF2

>> >> > but

>> >> > not with FF3....the opposite of what your link stated:

>> >> >

>> >> > Firefox 3 wouldn't play CNN video

>> >> > http://support.mozilla.com/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?locale=nl&comments_parentId=69250&forumId=1

>> >> >

>> >> > There might be some useful info there for you.

>> >> >

>> >> > It looks to be a possible Extensions issue, though the add-ons

>> >> > involved may

>> >> > vary.

>> >> >

>> >> > Do you have the Firefox Extensions IE Tab or IE View installed?

>> >> > or Toolbar

>> >> > Buttons?

>> >> > These are mentioned as being the problem for some.

>> >> >

>> >> > Conversely, some report that installing the IE Tab extension and

>> >> > using it to

>> >> > view

>> >> > the videos FIXES the issue for them.

>> >>

>> >> I installed the IE tab and that has yielded what I hope is just a

>> >> temporary solution until this issue gets repaired.

>> >>

>> >> Thanks to all.

>> >>

>> >> >

>> >> > Another report states to go to Firefox Preferences, under

>> >> > "Content" - "File

>> >> > Types",

>> >> > select WMV and then for the application that you want to open it,

>> >> > select

>> >> > Windows

>> >> > Media Player.

>> >> >

>> >> > Here's another interesting thread on the issue:

>> >> > http://www.windowsbbs.com/firefox-thunderbird-seamonkey/74849-ff3-cant-play-cnn-video.html

>> >> > --

>> >> > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+

>> >> > http://dts-l.net/

>> >> > http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> > "lb" <ldbrw@my-dejanews.com> wrote in message

>> >> > news:3762b0e6-7080-4fed-ba71-ce7f3950e6b4@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

>> >> > > Looks like I am not the only one with this problem, might be a

>> >> > > Firefox

>> >> > > 2.X issue.

>> >> > > http://groups.google.com/group/Firefox-Users/browse_thread/thread/3f047a18cd41f51d?hl=en

>> >> > >

>> >> > > lb wrote:

>> >> > >> That dll is already there, but thanks for the suggestion.

>> >> > >>

>> >> > >> I have been giving the video card upgrade some thought for awhile

>> >> > >> before this. This is a 6 year old computer that works well now,

>> >> > >> but

>> >> > >> is showing signs of age. ie: onboard LAN and sound going out,

>> >> > >> having

>> >> > >> to change PCI slots to get sound card recognized again. The

>> >> > >> computer

>> >> > >> is fast though and does most everything I want it to.

>> >> > >>

>> >> > >> I started experimenting with Firefox, because of the difficulties

>> >> > >> I

>> >> > >> was having with IE locking up and displaying secure websites.

>> >> > >> The

>> >> > >> lockups occur when I use a link within a page to open a new page.

>> >> > >> The

>> >> > >> original page will lock up if left running in the background too

>> >> > >> long. This only happens on certain sites and in most cases I can

>> >> > >> have

>> >> > >> multiple windows open without any problems. It seems really

>> >> > >> strange

>> >> > >> to me that the same site plays flash fine in IE but not in

>> >> > >> Firefox

>> >> > >> using the same version of flash player. Makes me think that this

>> >> > >> is a

>> >> > >> browser or flash issue. I sent a report to Firefox about this.

>> >> > >>

>> >> > >> The videos on cnn.com are an example of a site I have had

>> >> > >> difficulties

>> >> > >> with.

>> >> > >>

>> >> > >> I have been looking on Ebay at cards, but am not willing to spend

>> >> > >> the

>> >> > >> $60 or so for a new card and the used ones are going for around

>> >> > >> $30.

>> >> > >>

>> >> > >> I am thinking that it is getting close to time to buy or build a

>> >> > >> new

>> >> > >> computer, but I hate the bloat found in the newer OS'es.

>> >> > >>

>> >> > >> Dan wrote:

>> >> > >> > Yeah, Try John Dulak's idea first but my idea if you want a

>> >> > >> > really good

>> >> > >> > new

>> >> > >> > graphics video card for 98 Second Edition -- I bought mine new

>> >> > >> > on ebay and

>> >> > >> > it

>> >> > >> > runs like a champ -- posting in XP SP3 with I.E. 7 this time

>> >> > >> > since certain

>> >> > >> > services require XP.

>> >> > >> >

>> >> > >> > "John Dulak" wrote:

>> >> > >> >

>> >> > >> > > lb wrote:

>> >> > >> > > > Guess I spoke too soon, it only works for some sites. If I

>> >> > >> > > > use IE 6,

>> >> > >> > > > I do not have problems viewing the same file. IE 6 uses

>> >> > >> > > > the same

>> >> > >> > > > version of flash player also. I would post pictures, but

>> >> > >> > > > that is not

>> >> > >> > > > allowed here. I am using Firefox 2.0.0.16 which is the

>> >> > >> > > > latest that

>> >> > >> > > > runs on 98.

>> >> > >> > >

>> >> > >> > >

>> >> > >> > >

>> >> > >> > > lb:

>> >> > >> > >

>> >> > >> > > Try Coping the Flash dll (NPSWF23.DLL)from:

>> >> > >> > >

>> >> > >> > > C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\Macromed\Flash\NPSWF32.DLL

>> >> > >> > >

>> >> > >> > > To:

>> >> > >> > >

>> >> > >> > > C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\plugins\NPSWF32.DLL

>> >> > >> > >

>> >> > >> > > That was the only way I could get Firefox to recognize that

>> >> > >> > > flash was

>> >> > >> > > installed. If you have the "Mr Tech" about:Plugins add on

>> >> > >> > > installed in

>> >> > >> > > Firefox, Flash and the version number will show up in the

>> >> > >> > > list.

>> >> > >> > >

>> >> > >> > > HTH & GL

>> >> > >> > >

>> >> > >> > > John

>> >> > >> > >

>> >> > >> > >

>> >> > >> > > --

>> >> > >> > > \\\||///

>> >> > >> > > ------------------o000----(o)(o)----000o----------------

>> >> > >> > > ----------------------------()--------------------------

>> >> > >> > > '' Madness takes its toll - Please have exact change. ''

>> >> > >> > >

>> >> > >> > > John Dulak - Gnomeway Services - http://tinyurl.com/2qs6o6

>> >> > >> > >

Guest ldbrw1@gmail.com
Posted

Re: Which flash player for Firefox 2?

 

Well none of them have got me yet and I have been doing this internet

thing for 8 years now. Had some spyware years ago when no one knew

what it was, but cleaned that up and have been safe since. Never had

a virus or trojan and I cannot get a root certificate. I think that

no one in the malware business tries to attack people using 98 anymore

and in that respect I am "maybe" safer than someone with a newer non

obsolete OS. This is like an old car that still runs and gets me

there.

 

Thanks for the advice, I appreciate that someone from MS is willing to

come hare and help out.

 

I got version 47 to work, but higher versions all had the same issue.

I am contacting all of the websites that have this issue and

generating a bug report. Hopefully someone will get through to Adobe

and they will fix this as they claim that their newest version is

compatible with FF2.

 

Gary S. Terhune wrote:

> Hundreds. That's why Windows 98 is obsolete. Deliberate on the part of

> manufacturers or not, the facts are the facts.

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://grystmill.com

>

> "lb" <ldbrw@my-dejanews.com> wrote in message

> news:2337e24d-a8d2-43eb-ab7f-8c0e98815cff@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...

> > I figured that this may be the case. Perhaps you can tell me how to

> > complain to Adobe about this. I have been all over their website and

> > cannot find a way for an individual consumer to contact them. All I

> > can do is contact the websites that use their player and hope that

> > they will do something about it.

> >

> > I am still using version 124 in IE. I may try other versions with

> > Firefox 2. Unfortunately their removal tool deletes all versions so

> > both must be installed again.

> >

> > How many of these vulnerabilities ultimately affect Windows 98SE?

> >

> > glee wrote:

> >> OK....you removed Flash Player 9.0.124 and replaced it with version

> >> 9.0.45?

> >> Good luck with that. You have now left yourself open to the following

> >> vulnerabilities in that version, which were patched in later versions, up

> >> to

> >> 9.0.124:

> >>

> >> Adobe Flash Player HTTP Response Splitting Vulnerability

> >> 2008-07-15

> >> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26969

> >>

> >> Adobe Flash Player ActiveX Control 'navigateToURL' API Cross Domain

> >> Scripting

> >> Vulnerability

> >> 2008-07-15

> >> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26960

> >>

> >> Adobe Flash Player DNS Rebinding Vulnerability

> >> 2008-07-15

> >> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26930

> >>

> >> Adobe Flash Player Unspecified DNS Rebinding Vulnerability

> >> 2008-07-15

> >> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/28697

> >>

> >> Adobe Flash Player 'asfunction' Cross Site Scripting Vulnerability

> >> 2008-07-15

> >> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26949

> >>

> >> Adobe Flash Player Policy File Cross Domain Security Bypass Vulnerability

> >> 2008-07-15

> >> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26966

> >>

> >> Adobe Flash Player Unspecified Privilege-Escalation Vulnerability

> >> 2008-07-15

> >> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26965

> >>

> >> Adobe Flash Player Multimedia File Remote Buffer Overflow Vulnerability

> >> 2008-07-15

> >> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/28695

> >>

> >> Adobe Flash Player Arbitrary Cross Domain HTTP Request Headers Security

> >> Vulnerability

> >> 2008-07-15

> >> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/28696

> >>

> >> Adobe Flash Player SWF File 'DeclareFunction2' ActionScript Tag Remote

> >> Code

> >> Execution Vulnerability

> >> 2008-07-15

> >> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/28694

> >>

> >> Adobe Flash Player On Opera Browser For Mac OSX Unspecified Vulnerability

> >> 2008-07-15

> >> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26274

> >>

> >> Adobe Flash Player SWFs in Dreamweaver and Acrobat Unspecified Cross-Site

> >> Scripting

> >> Vulnerabilities

> >> 2008-07-15

> >> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/27034

> >>

> >> Adobe Flash Player JPG Header Remote Heap Based Buffer Overflow

> >> Vulnerability

> >> 2008-07-15

> >> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26951

> >>

> >> Retired: Adobe Flash Player Multiple Security Vulnerabilities

> >> 2007-12-21

> >> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26929

> >>

> >> Opera Web Browser Running Adobe Flash Player Information Disclosure

> >> Vulnerability

> >> 2007-12-18

> >> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/23437

> >>

> >> Adobe Flash Player SWF File Handling Remote Code Execution Vulnerability

> >> 2007-12-18

> >> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/24856

> >>

> >> --

> >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+

> >> http://dts-l.net/

> >> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

> >>

> >>

> >> "lb" <ldbrw@my-dejanews.com> wrote in message

> >> news:feec8237-e508-4743-841f-89bf942ea99a@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...

> >> > FYI:

> >> > I also found another fix which basically answered my original

> >> > question. I removed player 124 and installed player 45 and now it

> >> > seems to work fine. I did not try any more recent players as I found

> >> > this solution for someone elses problem and and acheived success, so I

> >> > left it.

> >> >

> >> > lb wrote:

> >> >> glee wrote:

> >> >> > That's pretty funny, considering the reports that CNN videos play

> >> >> > fine with FF2

> >> >> > but

> >> >> > not with FF3....the opposite of what your link stated:

> >> >> >

> >> >> > Firefox 3 wouldn't play CNN video

> >> >> > http://support.mozilla.com/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?locale=nl&comments_parentId=69250&forumId=1

> >> >> >

> >> >> > There might be some useful info there for you.

> >> >> >

> >> >> > It looks to be a possible Extensions issue, though the add-ons

> >> >> > involved may

> >> >> > vary.

> >> >> >

> >> >> > Do you have the Firefox Extensions IE Tab or IE View installed?

> >> >> > or Toolbar

> >> >> > Buttons?

> >> >> > These are mentioned as being the problem for some.

> >> >> >

> >> >> > Conversely, some report that installing the IE Tab extension and

> >> >> > using it to

> >> >> > view

> >> >> > the videos FIXES the issue for them.

> >> >>

> >> >> I installed the IE tab and that has yielded what I hope is just a

> >> >> temporary solution until this issue gets repaired.

> >> >>

> >> >> Thanks to all.

> >> >>

> >> >> >

> >> >> > Another report states to go to Firefox Preferences, under

> >> >> > "Content" - "File

> >> >> > Types",

> >> >> > select WMV and then for the application that you want to open it,

> >> >> > select

> >> >> > Windows

> >> >> > Media Player.

> >> >> >

> >> >> > Here's another interesting thread on the issue:

> >> >> > http://www.windowsbbs.com/firefox-thunderbird-seamonkey/74849-ff3-cant-play-cnn-video.html

> >> >> > --

> >> >> > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+

> >> >> > http://dts-l.net/

> >> >> > http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> > "lb" <ldbrw@my-dejanews.com> wrote in message

> >> >> > news:3762b0e6-7080-4fed-ba71-ce7f3950e6b4@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

> >> >> > > Looks like I am not the only one with this problem, might be a

> >> >> > > Firefox

> >> >> > > 2.X issue.

> >> >> > > http://groups.google.com/group/Firefox-Users/browse_thread/thread/3f047a18cd41f51d?hl=en

> >> >> > >

> >> >> > > lb wrote:

> >> >> > >> That dll is already there, but thanks for the suggestion.

> >> >> > >>

> >> >> > >> I have been giving the video card upgrade some thought for awhile

> >> >> > >> before this. This is a 6 year old computer that works well now,

> >> >> > >> but

> >> >> > >> is showing signs of age. ie: onboard LAN and sound going out,

> >> >> > >> having

> >> >> > >> to change PCI slots to get sound card recognized again. The

> >> >> > >> computer

> >> >> > >> is fast though and does most everything I want it to.

> >> >> > >>

> >> >> > >> I started experimenting with Firefox, because of the difficulties

> >> >> > >> I

> >> >> > >> was having with IE locking up and displaying secure websites.

> >> >> > >> The

> >> >> > >> lockups occur when I use a link within a page to open a new page.

> >> >> > >> The

> >> >> > >> original page will lock up if left running in the background too

> >> >> > >> long. This only happens on certain sites and in most cases I can

> >> >> > >> have

> >> >> > >> multiple windows open without any problems. It seems really

> >> >> > >> strange

> >> >> > >> to me that the same site plays flash fine in IE but not in

> >> >> > >> Firefox

> >> >> > >> using the same version of flash player. Makes me think that this

> >> >> > >> is a

> >> >> > >> browser or flash issue. I sent a report to Firefox about this.

> >> >> > >>

> >> >> > >> The videos on cnn.com are an example of a site I have had

> >> >> > >> difficulties

> >> >> > >> with.

> >> >> > >>

> >> >> > >> I have been looking on Ebay at cards, but am not willing to spend

> >> >> > >> the

> >> >> > >> $60 or so for a new card and the used ones are going for around

> >> >> > >> $30.

> >> >> > >>

> >> >> > >> I am thinking that it is getting close to time to buy or build a

> >> >> > >> new

> >> >> > >> computer, but I hate the bloat found in the newer OS'es.

> >> >> > >>

> >> >> > >> Dan wrote:

> >> >> > >> > Yeah, Try John Dulak's idea first but my idea if you want a

> >> >> > >> > really good

> >> >> > >> > new

> >> >> > >> > graphics video card for 98 Second Edition -- I bought mine new

> >> >> > >> > on ebay and

> >> >> > >> > it

> >> >> > >> > runs like a champ -- posting in XP SP3 with I.E. 7 this time

> >> >> > >> > since certain

> >> >> > >> > services require XP.

> >> >> > >> >

> >> >> > >> > "John Dulak" wrote:

> >> >> > >> >

> >> >> > >> > > lb wrote:

> >> >> > >> > > > Guess I spoke too soon, it only works for some sites. If I

> >> >> > >> > > > use IE 6,

> >> >> > >> > > > I do not have problems viewing the same file. IE 6 uses

> >> >> > >> > > > the same

> >> >> > >> > > > version of flash player also. I would post pictures, but

> >> >> > >> > > > that is not

> >> >> > >> > > > allowed here. I am using Firefox 2.0.0.16 which is the

> >> >> > >> > > > latest that

> >> >> > >> > > > runs on 98.

> >> >> > >> > >

> >> >> > >> > >

> >> >> > >> > >

> >> >> > >> > > lb:

> >> >> > >> > >

> >> >> > >> > > Try Coping the Flash dll (NPSWF23.DLL)from:

> >> >> > >> > >

> >> >> > >> > > C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\Macromed\Flash\NPSWF32.DLL

> >> >> > >> > >

> >> >> > >> > > To:

> >> >> > >> > >

> >> >> > >> > > C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\plugins\NPSWF32.DLL

> >> >> > >> > >

> >> >> > >> > > That was the only way I could get Firefox to recognize that

> >> >> > >> > > flash was

> >> >> > >> > > installed. If you have the "Mr Tech" about:Plugins add on

> >> >> > >> > > installed in

> >> >> > >> > > Firefox, Flash and the version number will show up in the

> >> >> > >> > > list.

> >> >> > >> > >

> >> >> > >> > > HTH & GL

> >> >> > >> > >

> >> >> > >> > > John

> >> >> > >> > >

> >> >> > >> > >

> >> >> > >> > > --

> >> >> > >> > > \\\||///

> >> >> > >> > > ------------------o000----(o)(o)----000o----------------

> >> >> > >> > > ----------------------------()--------------------------

> >> >> > >> > > '' Madness takes its toll - Please have exact change. ''

> >> >> > >> > >

> >> >> > >> > > John Dulak - Gnomeway Services - http://tinyurl.com/2qs6o6

> >> >> > >> > >

Guest Gary S. Terhune
Posted

Re: Which flash player for Firefox 2?

 

I'm not from Microsoft. They just give me an Award for my purely volunteer

efforts. My opinions are my own and nobody else's. In fact, that has been

giving me some problems lately, due to the , er, intensity with which I've

been expressing those opinions.

 

I've been doing the "internet thing" for almost 12 years, after living

pretty much totally away from technology for the previous ten years. Met my

wife in Yahoo! Chat and courted via ICQ. I've been offering advice and

helping people trouble-shoot their systems in this specific

Win98.Gen_Discussion newsgroup (almost exclusively) for a bit short of ten

years.

 

A word to the wise: Unless your system was built under NASA-like sterile

conditions and programmed from scratch, with absolutely no connection to the

"outside" world, there's no way to truly know if your it is infested or not.

You can only manage the risk, and make best guesses, and the simple fact is

that, whatever the reasons, Win9x users are being steadily and

systematically deprived of various necessary tools, both by Microsoft and by

other vendors. Can't blame them, really. Hard to justify all the effort and

money the extra code costs for an OS that comprises maybe a one half to one

percent of the world's OSes. (I'm probably being overly optimistic about

that number, too.)

 

Yes, it's mostly practicing Safe Hex that will keep a system clean, and yes,

the bad guys aren't aiming at us like they were when 98 was King, but all

those old viruses and other malware are still out there, wandering around in

cyberspace, and the vulnerabilities you're dealing with *aren't* old ones,

they're almost spanking new. They're *not* attacking Windows 98, they're

attacking any system that can run Flash.

 

Think about that, because if it can run on your system, it can wreck your

system. Which is why protective mechanisms are so important. Ounce of

prevention and all that. Problem is, Win98 users' choices for such

indispensable utilities are quickly approaching zero.

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://grystmill.com

 

<ldbrw1@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:d5fec377-87c4-4a90-9b48-f19a55271fb2@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

> Well none of them have got me yet and I have been doing this internet

> thing for 8 years now. Had some spyware years ago when no one knew

> what it was, but cleaned that up and have been safe since. Never had

> a virus or trojan and I cannot get a root certificate. I think that

> no one in the malware business tries to attack people using 98 anymore

> and in that respect I am "maybe" safer than someone with a newer non

> obsolete OS. This is like an old car that still runs and gets me

> there.

>

> Thanks for the advice, I appreciate that someone from MS is willing to

> come hare and help out.

>

> I got version 47 to work, but higher versions all had the same issue.

> I am contacting all of the websites that have this issue and

> generating a bug report. Hopefully someone will get through to Adobe

> and they will fix this as they claim that their newest version is

> compatible with FF2.

>

> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>> Hundreds. That's why Windows 98 is obsolete. Deliberate on the part of

>> manufacturers or not, the facts are the facts.

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://grystmill.com

>>

>> "lb" <ldbrw@my-dejanews.com> wrote in message

>> news:2337e24d-a8d2-43eb-ab7f-8c0e98815cff@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...

>> > I figured that this may be the case. Perhaps you can tell me how to

>> > complain to Adobe about this. I have been all over their website and

>> > cannot find a way for an individual consumer to contact them. All I

>> > can do is contact the websites that use their player and hope that

>> > they will do something about it.

>> >

>> > I am still using version 124 in IE. I may try other versions with

>> > Firefox 2. Unfortunately their removal tool deletes all versions so

>> > both must be installed again.

>> >

>> > How many of these vulnerabilities ultimately affect Windows 98SE?

>> >

>> > glee wrote:

>> >> OK....you removed Flash Player 9.0.124 and replaced it with version

>> >> 9.0.45?

>> >> Good luck with that. You have now left yourself open to the following

>> >> vulnerabilities in that version, which were patched in later versions,

>> >> up

>> >> to

>> >> 9.0.124:

>> >>

>> >> Adobe Flash Player HTTP Response Splitting Vulnerability

>> >> 2008-07-15

>> >> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26969

>> >>

>> >> Adobe Flash Player ActiveX Control 'navigateToURL' API Cross Domain

>> >> Scripting

>> >> Vulnerability

>> >> 2008-07-15

>> >> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26960

>> >>

>> >> Adobe Flash Player DNS Rebinding Vulnerability

>> >> 2008-07-15

>> >> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26930

>> >>

>> >> Adobe Flash Player Unspecified DNS Rebinding Vulnerability

>> >> 2008-07-15

>> >> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/28697

>> >>

>> >> Adobe Flash Player 'asfunction' Cross Site Scripting Vulnerability

>> >> 2008-07-15

>> >> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26949

>> >>

>> >> Adobe Flash Player Policy File Cross Domain Security Bypass

>> >> Vulnerability

>> >> 2008-07-15

>> >> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26966

>> >>

>> >> Adobe Flash Player Unspecified Privilege-Escalation Vulnerability

>> >> 2008-07-15

>> >> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26965

>> >>

>> >> Adobe Flash Player Multimedia File Remote Buffer Overflow

>> >> Vulnerability

>> >> 2008-07-15

>> >> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/28695

>> >>

>> >> Adobe Flash Player Arbitrary Cross Domain HTTP Request Headers

>> >> Security

>> >> Vulnerability

>> >> 2008-07-15

>> >> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/28696

>> >>

>> >> Adobe Flash Player SWF File 'DeclareFunction2' ActionScript Tag Remote

>> >> Code

>> >> Execution Vulnerability

>> >> 2008-07-15

>> >> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/28694

>> >>

>> >> Adobe Flash Player On Opera Browser For Mac OSX Unspecified

>> >> Vulnerability

>> >> 2008-07-15

>> >> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26274

>> >>

>> >> Adobe Flash Player SWFs in Dreamweaver and Acrobat Unspecified

>> >> Cross-Site

>> >> Scripting

>> >> Vulnerabilities

>> >> 2008-07-15

>> >> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/27034

>> >>

>> >> Adobe Flash Player JPG Header Remote Heap Based Buffer Overflow

>> >> Vulnerability

>> >> 2008-07-15

>> >> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26951

>> >>

>> >> Retired: Adobe Flash Player Multiple Security Vulnerabilities

>> >> 2007-12-21

>> >> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/26929

>> >>

>> >> Opera Web Browser Running Adobe Flash Player Information Disclosure

>> >> Vulnerability

>> >> 2007-12-18

>> >> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/23437

>> >>

>> >> Adobe Flash Player SWF File Handling Remote Code Execution

>> >> Vulnerability

>> >> 2007-12-18

>> >> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/24856

>> >>

>> >> --

>> >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+

>> >> http://dts-l.net/

>> >> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> "lb" <ldbrw@my-dejanews.com> wrote in message

>> >> news:feec8237-e508-4743-841f-89bf942ea99a@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...

>> >> > FYI:

>> >> > I also found another fix which basically answered my original

>> >> > question. I removed player 124 and installed player 45 and now it

>> >> > seems to work fine. I did not try any more recent players as I

>> >> > found

>> >> > this solution for someone elses problem and and acheived success, so

>> >> > I

>> >> > left it.

>> >> >

>> >> > lb wrote:

>> >> >> glee wrote:

>> >> >> > That's pretty funny, considering the reports that CNN videos play

>> >> >> > fine with FF2

>> >> >> > but

>> >> >> > not with FF3....the opposite of what your link stated:

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > Firefox 3 wouldn't play CNN video

>> >> >> > http://support.mozilla.com/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?locale=nl&comments_parentId=69250&forumId=1

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > There might be some useful info there for you.

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > It looks to be a possible Extensions issue, though the add-ons

>> >> >> > involved may

>> >> >> > vary.

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > Do you have the Firefox Extensions IE Tab or IE View installed?

>> >> >> > or Toolbar

>> >> >> > Buttons?

>> >> >> > These are mentioned as being the problem for some.

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > Conversely, some report that installing the IE Tab extension and

>> >> >> > using it to

>> >> >> > view

>> >> >> > the videos FIXES the issue for them.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> I installed the IE tab and that has yielded what I hope is just a

>> >> >> temporary solution until this issue gets repaired.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> Thanks to all.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > Another report states to go to Firefox Preferences, under

>> >> >> > "Content" - "File

>> >> >> > Types",

>> >> >> > select WMV and then for the application that you want to open it,

>> >> >> > select

>> >> >> > Windows

>> >> >> > Media Player.

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > Here's another interesting thread on the issue:

>> >> >> > http://www.windowsbbs.com/firefox-thunderbird-seamonkey/74849-ff3-cant-play-cnn-video.html

>> >> >> > --

>> >> >> > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+

>> >> >> > http://dts-l.net/

>> >> >> > http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > "lb" <ldbrw@my-dejanews.com> wrote in message

>> >> >> > news:3762b0e6-7080-4fed-ba71-ce7f3950e6b4@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

>> >> >> > > Looks like I am not the only one with this problem, might be a

>> >> >> > > Firefox

>> >> >> > > 2.X issue.

>> >> >> > > http://groups.google.com/group/Firefox-Users/browse_thread/thread/3f047a18cd41f51d?hl=en

>> >> >> > >

>> >> >> > > lb wrote:

>> >> >> > >> That dll is already there, but thanks for the suggestion.

>> >> >> > >>

>> >> >> > >> I have been giving the video card upgrade some thought for

>> >> >> > >> awhile

>> >> >> > >> before this. This is a 6 year old computer that works well

>> >> >> > >> now,

>> >> >> > >> but

>> >> >> > >> is showing signs of age. ie: onboard LAN and sound going out,

>> >> >> > >> having

>> >> >> > >> to change PCI slots to get sound card recognized again. The

>> >> >> > >> computer

>> >> >> > >> is fast though and does most everything I want it to.

>> >> >> > >>

>> >> >> > >> I started experimenting with Firefox, because of the

>> >> >> > >> difficulties

>> >> >> > >> I

>> >> >> > >> was having with IE locking up and displaying secure websites.

>> >> >> > >> The

>> >> >> > >> lockups occur when I use a link within a page to open a new

>> >> >> > >> page.

>> >> >> > >> The

>> >> >> > >> original page will lock up if left running in the background

>> >> >> > >> too

>> >> >> > >> long. This only happens on certain sites and in most cases I

>> >> >> > >> can

>> >> >> > >> have

>> >> >> > >> multiple windows open without any problems. It seems really

>> >> >> > >> strange

>> >> >> > >> to me that the same site plays flash fine in IE but not in

>> >> >> > >> Firefox

>> >> >> > >> using the same version of flash player. Makes me think that

>> >> >> > >> this

>> >> >> > >> is a

>> >> >> > >> browser or flash issue. I sent a report to Firefox about

>> >> >> > >> this.

>> >> >> > >>

>> >> >> > >> The videos on cnn.com are an example of a site I have had

>> >> >> > >> difficulties

>> >> >> > >> with.

>> >> >> > >>

>> >> >> > >> I have been looking on Ebay at cards, but am not willing to

>> >> >> > >> spend

>> >> >> > >> the

>> >> >> > >> $60 or so for a new card and the used ones are going for

>> >> >> > >> around

>> >> >> > >> $30.

>> >> >> > >>

>> >> >> > >> I am thinking that it is getting close to time to buy or build

>> >> >> > >> a

>> >> >> > >> new

>> >> >> > >> computer, but I hate the bloat found in the newer OS'es.

>> >> >> > >>

>> >> >> > >> Dan wrote:

>> >> >> > >> > Yeah, Try John Dulak's idea first but my idea if you want a

>> >> >> > >> > really good

>> >> >> > >> > new

>> >> >> > >> > graphics video card for 98 Second Edition -- I bought mine

>> >> >> > >> > new

>> >> >> > >> > on ebay and

>> >> >> > >> > it

>> >> >> > >> > runs like a champ -- posting in XP SP3 with I.E. 7 this time

>> >> >> > >> > since certain

>> >> >> > >> > services require XP.

>> >> >> > >> >

>> >> >> > >> > "John Dulak" wrote:

>> >> >> > >> >

>> >> >> > >> > > lb wrote:

>> >> >> > >> > > > Guess I spoke too soon, it only works for some sites.

>> >> >> > >> > > > If I

>> >> >> > >> > > > use IE 6,

>> >> >> > >> > > > I do not have problems viewing the same file. IE 6 uses

>> >> >> > >> > > > the same

>> >> >> > >> > > > version of flash player also. I would post pictures,

>> >> >> > >> > > > but

>> >> >> > >> > > > that is not

>> >> >> > >> > > > allowed here. I am using Firefox 2.0.0.16 which is the

>> >> >> > >> > > > latest that

>> >> >> > >> > > > runs on 98.

>> >> >> > >> > >

>> >> >> > >> > >

>> >> >> > >> > >

>> >> >> > >> > > lb:

>> >> >> > >> > >

>> >> >> > >> > > Try Coping the Flash dll (NPSWF23.DLL)from:

>> >> >> > >> > >

>> >> >> > >> > > C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\Macromed\Flash\NPSWF32.DLL

>> >> >> > >> > >

>> >> >> > >> > > To:

>> >> >> > >> > >

>> >> >> > >> > > C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\plugins\NPSWF32.DLL

>> >> >> > >> > >

>> >> >> > >> > > That was the only way I could get Firefox to recognize

>> >> >> > >> > > that

>> >> >> > >> > > flash was

>> >> >> > >> > > installed. If you have the "Mr Tech" about:Plugins add on

>> >> >> > >> > > installed in

>> >> >> > >> > > Firefox, Flash and the version number will show up in the

>> >> >> > >> > > list.

>> >> >> > >> > >

>> >> >> > >> > > HTH & GL

>> >> >> > >> > >

>> >> >> > >> > > John

>> >> >> > >> > >

>> >> >> > >> > >

>> >> >> > >> > > --

>> >> >> > >> > > \\\||///

>> >> >> > >> > > ------------------o000----(o)(o)----000o----------------

>> >> >> > >> > > ----------------------------()--------------------------

>> >> >> > >> > > '' Madness takes its toll - Please have exact change. ''

>> >> >> > >> > >

>> >> >> > >> > > John Dulak - Gnomeway Services -

>> >> >> > >> > > http://tinyurl.com/2qs6o6

>> >> >> > >> > >

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