Guest Edward Posted August 4, 2008 Posted August 4, 2008 I have a couple of domain controllers running Windows Server 2003 Standard with SP2 and I'd like to know if it's possible to upgrade them to the Enterprise edition? Basically, I need to do this as IAS on the standard version only supports up to 50 devices and I need to add more devices. Apparently the enterprise version of IAS supports more devices. Thanks!
Guest Danny Sanders Posted August 4, 2008 Posted August 4, 2008 Re: DC Win2k3 SP2 upgrade from STD to ENT Yes See: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/evaluation/whyupgrade/supportedpaths.mspx hth DDS "Edward" <Edward@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:63DDEE90-AD3E-4F38-BF49-3AFEBAB216E9@microsoft.com... >I have a couple of domain controllers running Windows Server 2003 Standard > with SP2 and I'd like to know if it's possible to upgrade them to the > Enterprise edition? > > Basically, I need to do this as IAS on the standard version only supports > up > to 50 devices and I need to add more devices. Apparently the enterprise > version of IAS supports more devices. > > Thanks!
Guest Meinolf Weber Posted August 4, 2008 Posted August 4, 2008 Re: DC Win2k3 SP2 upgrade from STD to ENT Hello Edward, Just insert the enterprise disk and with autostarting it should prompt you with the supported options. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm > I have a couple of domain controllers running Windows Server 2003 > Standard with SP2 and I'd like to know if it's possible to upgrade > them to the Enterprise edition? > > Basically, I need to do this as IAS on the standard version only > supports up to 50 devices and I need to add more devices. Apparently > the enterprise version of IAS supports more devices. > > Thanks! >
Guest Edward Posted August 5, 2008 Posted August 5, 2008 Re: DC Win2k3 SP2 upgrade from STD to ENT Well, it doesn't quite work that way. As soon as I try to install it says that the OS on the hard disk is newer than the one on the CD and it wants me to remove the old installation. Maybe I need an 'upgrade' cd or media? I have the MSDN CDs we receive from Microsoft. "Meinolf Weber" wrote: > Hello Edward, > > Just insert the enterprise disk and with autostarting it should prompt you > with the supported options. > > Best regards > > Meinolf Weber > Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers > no rights. > ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups > ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm > > > I have a couple of domain controllers running Windows Server 2003 > > Standard with SP2 and I'd like to know if it's possible to upgrade > > them to the Enterprise edition? > > > > Basically, I need to do this as IAS on the standard version only > > supports up to 50 devices and I need to add more devices. Apparently > > the enterprise version of IAS supports more devices. > > > > Thanks! > > > > >
Guest Danny Sanders Posted August 5, 2008 Posted August 5, 2008 Re: DC Win2k3 SP2 upgrade from STD to ENT > Well, it doesn't quite work that way. > > As soon as I try to install it says that the OS on the hard disk is newer > than the one on the CD and it wants me to remove the old installation. Actually it does work that way. What I suspect is that you forgot to tell us that the existing install is Win 2k3 SP2 and the Enterprise version you are trying to upgrade to is Win 2k3 SP2 "R2". R2 is a 2 disk set. You will need to run adprep from the second CD of the R2 set on the Schema master for your domain, then upgrade using the Win 2k3 Enterprise R2 version. R2 is just a set of upgraded features that require a schema modification to prepare the domain for the new R2 features. If you were going to use the updated features you would run adprep from the second CD to prepare the domain, then install the R2 feature(s) only on the servers you need to use the new features on. It does not sound like you are wanting to use the new R2 features so just run adprep on the schema master and then upgrade the DC. hth DDS "Edward" <Edward@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:E5DCB404-E209-44C9-8868-488AD362EE5B@microsoft.com... > Well, it doesn't quite work that way. > > As soon as I try to install it says that the OS on the hard disk is newer > than the one on the CD and it wants me to remove the old installation. > > Maybe I need an 'upgrade' cd or media? I have the MSDN CDs we receive from > Microsoft. > > > > "Meinolf Weber" wrote: > >> Hello Edward, >> >> Just insert the enterprise disk and with autostarting it should prompt >> you >> with the supported options. >> >> Best regards >> >> Meinolf Weber >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and >> confers >> no rights. >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups >> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm >> >> > I have a couple of domain controllers running Windows Server 2003 >> > Standard with SP2 and I'd like to know if it's possible to upgrade >> > them to the Enterprise edition? >> > >> > Basically, I need to do this as IAS on the standard version only >> > supports up to 50 devices and I need to add more devices. Apparently >> > the enterprise version of IAS supports more devices. >> > >> > Thanks! >> > >> >> >>
Guest Edward Posted August 7, 2008 Posted August 7, 2008 Re: DC Win2k3 SP2 upgrade from STD to ENT Danny, thanks for the reply. Well, here's what's happening. My current production DC is a Windows 2003 Standard Server; which I'd like to upgrade to a Windows 2003 Enterprise Server (mainly for the IAS feature); the Enterprise CD I'm using is not the R2 version though. (I do own an R2 version, but we're not going to use that version yet) For obvious reasons, I need to do an upgrade - not a new installation. When the CD autoruns, I'm unable to upgrade the OS. I get the message stating that the OS on the computer is newer than the one on the CD. It also states that only a 'new' installation will be allowed. It also states that in case I want to keep the 'older' installation; I should install this version on a different windows directory. As, a matter of fact, the window that comes up has the 'continue' button grayed out, so I'm unable to upgrade from the GUI. Only 'Cancel' and 'Detail' buttons are enabled. I went ahead and tried booting the machine using the Win2k3 ENT bootable CD and I got the following: You chose to install Windows on a partition that contains another operating system. Installing Windows on this partition might cause the other operating system to function improperly.... I've gone as far as creating a 'test' new domain (running Windows 2003 Standard SP2 and fully patched) on a virtual machine on my lab. I get the same results as well. Seems to me that either I'm missing something or the upgrade path broke after SP2. Thanks again! "Danny Sanders" wrote: > > Well, it doesn't quite work that way. > > > > As soon as I try to install it says that the OS on the hard disk is newer > > than the one on the CD and it wants me to remove the old installation. > > > Actually it does work that way. What I suspect is that you forgot to tell us > that the existing install is Win 2k3 SP2 and the Enterprise version you are > trying to upgrade to is Win 2k3 SP2 "R2". > > R2 is a 2 disk set. You will need to run adprep from the second CD of the R2 > set on the Schema master for your domain, then upgrade using the Win 2k3 > Enterprise R2 version. > > R2 is just a set of upgraded features that require a schema modification to > prepare the domain for the new R2 features. > If you were going to use the updated features you would run adprep from the > second CD to prepare the domain, then install the R2 feature(s) only on the > servers you need to use the new features on. It does not sound like you are > wanting to use the new R2 features so just run adprep on the schema master > and then upgrade the DC. > > hth > DDS > > "Edward" <Edward@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:E5DCB404-E209-44C9-8868-488AD362EE5B@microsoft.com... > > Well, it doesn't quite work that way. > > > > As soon as I try to install it says that the OS on the hard disk is newer > > than the one on the CD and it wants me to remove the old installation. > > > > Maybe I need an 'upgrade' cd or media? I have the MSDN CDs we receive from > > Microsoft. > > > > > > > > "Meinolf Weber" wrote: > > > >> Hello Edward, > >> > >> Just insert the enterprise disk and with autostarting it should prompt > >> you > >> with the supported options. > >> > >> Best regards > >> > >> Meinolf Weber > >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and > >> confers > >> no rights. > >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups > >> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm > >> > >> > I have a couple of domain controllers running Windows Server 2003 > >> > Standard with SP2 and I'd like to know if it's possible to upgrade > >> > them to the Enterprise edition? > >> > > >> > Basically, I need to do this as IAS on the standard version only > >> > supports up to 50 devices and I need to add more devices. Apparently > >> > the enterprise version of IAS supports more devices. > >> > > >> > Thanks! > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >
Guest Meinolf Weber Posted August 7, 2008 Posted August 7, 2008 Re: DC Win2k3 SP2 upgrade from STD to ENT Hello Edward, Uninstall SP2 upgrade and install SP2 again. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm > Danny, thanks for the reply. > > Well, here's what's happening. My current production DC is a Windows > 2003 Standard Server; which I'd like to upgrade to a Windows 2003 > Enterprise Server (mainly for the IAS feature); the Enterprise CD I'm > using is not the R2 version though. (I do own an R2 version, but we're > not going to use that version yet) > > For obvious reasons, I need to do an upgrade - not a new installation. > > When the CD autoruns, I'm unable to upgrade the OS. I get the message > stating that the OS on the computer is newer than the one on the CD. > It also states that only a 'new' installation will be allowed. It also > states that in case I want to keep the 'older' installation; I should > install this version on a different windows directory. As, a matter of > fact, the window that comes up has the 'continue' button grayed out, > so I'm unable to upgrade from the GUI. Only 'Cancel' and 'Detail' > buttons are enabled. > > I went ahead and tried booting the machine using the Win2k3 ENT > bootable CD and I got the following: You chose to install Windows on a > partition that contains another operating system. Installing Windows > on this partition might cause the other operating system to function > improperly.... > > I've gone as far as creating a 'test' new domain (running Windows 2003 > Standard SP2 and fully patched) on a virtual machine on my lab. I get > the same results as well. > > Seems to me that either I'm missing something or the upgrade path > broke after SP2. > > Thanks again! > > "Danny Sanders" wrote: > >>> Well, it doesn't quite work that way. >>> >>> As soon as I try to install it says that the OS on the hard disk is >>> newer than the one on the CD and it wants me to remove the old >>> installation. >>> >> Actually it does work that way. What I suspect is that you forgot to >> tell us that the existing install is Win 2k3 SP2 and the Enterprise >> version you are trying to upgrade to is Win 2k3 SP2 "R2". >> >> R2 is a 2 disk set. You will need to run adprep from the second CD of >> the R2 set on the Schema master for your domain, then upgrade using >> the Win 2k3 Enterprise R2 version. >> >> R2 is just a set of upgraded features that require a schema >> modification to >> prepare the domain for the new R2 features. >> If you were going to use the updated features you would run adprep >> from the >> second CD to prepare the domain, then install the R2 feature(s) only >> on the >> servers you need to use the new features on. It does not sound like >> you are >> wanting to use the new R2 features so just run adprep on the schema >> master >> and then upgrade the DC. >> hth >> DDS >> "Edward" <Edward@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:E5DCB404-E209-44C9-8868-488AD362EE5B@microsoft.com... >> >>> Well, it doesn't quite work that way. >>> >>> As soon as I try to install it says that the OS on the hard disk is >>> newer than the one on the CD and it wants me to remove the old >>> installation. >>> >>> Maybe I need an 'upgrade' cd or media? I have the MSDN CDs we >>> receive from Microsoft. >>> >>> "Meinolf Weber" wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Edward, >>>> >>>> Just insert the enterprise disk and with autostarting it should >>>> prompt >>>> you >>>> with the supported options. >>>> Best regards >>>> >>>> Meinolf Weber >>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, >>>> and >>>> confers >>>> no rights. >>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups >>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm >>>>> I have a couple of domain controllers running Windows Server 2003 >>>>> Standard with SP2 and I'd like to know if it's possible to upgrade >>>>> them to the Enterprise edition? >>>>> >>>>> Basically, I need to do this as IAS on the standard version only >>>>> supports up to 50 devices and I need to add more devices. >>>>> Apparently the enterprise version of IAS supports more devices. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>>
Guest Edward Posted August 7, 2008 Posted August 7, 2008 Re: DC Win2k3 SP2 upgrade from STD to ENT By that you mean... 1. Uninstall SP2 from the DC 2. Attempt the Upgrade process using the Enterprise CD 3. Re-install SP2 after win2K3 STD has been upgraded to win2K3 ENT? Hm, I will try this on my virtual machine test domain, but even if that works I will be weary of doing this on a production environment. My test virtual machine by no means resembles my production environment. If I have to go through all this, I might as well just introduce an entirely new DC on my production environment with win2k3 ENT loaded, instead of doing an upgrade. I'm going to try it on my virtual machine/test domain just for kicks, but I seriously doubt I'll be doing this on my production environment. I think this upgrade path is broken after SP2 and Microsoft should either update their documentation or find a 'good' fix for this. Thanks for all your comments and suggestions though. Edward "Meinolf Weber" wrote: > Hello Edward, > > Uninstall SP2 upgrade and install SP2 again. > > Best regards > > Meinolf Weber > Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers > no rights. > ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups > ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm > > > Danny, thanks for the reply. > > > > Well, here's what's happening. My current production DC is a Windows > > 2003 Standard Server; which I'd like to upgrade to a Windows 2003 > > Enterprise Server (mainly for the IAS feature); the Enterprise CD I'm > > using is not the R2 version though. (I do own an R2 version, but we're > > not going to use that version yet) > > > > For obvious reasons, I need to do an upgrade - not a new installation. > > > > When the CD autoruns, I'm unable to upgrade the OS. I get the message > > stating that the OS on the computer is newer than the one on the CD. > > It also states that only a 'new' installation will be allowed. It also > > states that in case I want to keep the 'older' installation; I should > > install this version on a different windows directory. As, a matter of > > fact, the window that comes up has the 'continue' button grayed out, > > so I'm unable to upgrade from the GUI. Only 'Cancel' and 'Detail' > > buttons are enabled. > > > > I went ahead and tried booting the machine using the Win2k3 ENT > > bootable CD and I got the following: You chose to install Windows on a > > partition that contains another operating system. Installing Windows > > on this partition might cause the other operating system to function > > improperly.... > > > > I've gone as far as creating a 'test' new domain (running Windows 2003 > > Standard SP2 and fully patched) on a virtual machine on my lab. I get > > the same results as well. > > > > Seems to me that either I'm missing something or the upgrade path > > broke after SP2. > > > > Thanks again! > > > > "Danny Sanders" wrote: > > > >>> Well, it doesn't quite work that way. > >>> > >>> As soon as I try to install it says that the OS on the hard disk is > >>> newer than the one on the CD and it wants me to remove the old > >>> installation. > >>> > >> Actually it does work that way. What I suspect is that you forgot to > >> tell us that the existing install is Win 2k3 SP2 and the Enterprise > >> version you are trying to upgrade to is Win 2k3 SP2 "R2". > >> > >> R2 is a 2 disk set. You will need to run adprep from the second CD of > >> the R2 set on the Schema master for your domain, then upgrade using > >> the Win 2k3 Enterprise R2 version. > >> > >> R2 is just a set of upgraded features that require a schema > >> modification to > >> prepare the domain for the new R2 features. > >> If you were going to use the updated features you would run adprep > >> from the > >> second CD to prepare the domain, then install the R2 feature(s) only > >> on the > >> servers you need to use the new features on. It does not sound like > >> you are > >> wanting to use the new R2 features so just run adprep on the schema > >> master > >> and then upgrade the DC. > >> hth > >> DDS > >> "Edward" <Edward@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> news:E5DCB404-E209-44C9-8868-488AD362EE5B@microsoft.com... > >> > >>> Well, it doesn't quite work that way. > >>> > >>> As soon as I try to install it says that the OS on the hard disk is > >>> newer than the one on the CD and it wants me to remove the old > >>> installation. > >>> > >>> Maybe I need an 'upgrade' cd or media? I have the MSDN CDs we > >>> receive from Microsoft. > >>> > >>> "Meinolf Weber" wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hello Edward, > >>>> > >>>> Just insert the enterprise disk and with autostarting it should > >>>> prompt > >>>> you > >>>> with the supported options. > >>>> Best regards > >>>> > >>>> Meinolf Weber > >>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, > >>>> and > >>>> confers > >>>> no rights. > >>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups > >>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm > >>>>> I have a couple of domain controllers running Windows Server 2003 > >>>>> Standard with SP2 and I'd like to know if it's possible to upgrade > >>>>> them to the Enterprise edition? > >>>>> > >>>>> Basically, I need to do this as IAS on the standard version only > >>>>> supports up to 50 devices and I need to add more devices. > >>>>> Apparently the enterprise version of IAS supports more devices. > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks! > >>>>> > > >
Guest Meinolf Weber Posted August 7, 2008 Posted August 7, 2008 Re: DC Win2k3 SP2 upgrade from STD to ENT Hello Edward, Yes, that's what i mean, i read some other posting, do not remember where, that this helps. And testing it is always a good solution before going to production environments. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm > By that you mean... > > 1. Uninstall SP2 from the DC > 2. Attempt the Upgrade process using the Enterprise CD > 3. Re-install SP2 after win2K3 STD has been upgraded to win2K3 ENT? > Hm, I will try this on my virtual machine test domain, but even if > that works I will be weary of doing this on a production environment. > My test virtual machine by no means resembles my production > environment. > > If I have to go through all this, I might as well just introduce an > entirely new DC on my production environment with win2k3 ENT loaded, > instead of doing an upgrade. > > I'm going to try it on my virtual machine/test domain just for kicks, > but I seriously doubt I'll be doing this on my production environment. > I think this upgrade path is broken after SP2 and Microsoft should > either update their documentation or find a 'good' fix for this. > > Thanks for all your comments and suggestions though. > > Edward > > "Meinolf Weber" wrote: > >> Hello Edward, >> >> Uninstall SP2 upgrade and install SP2 again. >> >> Best regards >> >> Meinolf Weber >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and >> confers >> no rights. >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups >> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm >>> Danny, thanks for the reply. >>> >>> Well, here's what's happening. My current production DC is a Windows >>> 2003 Standard Server; which I'd like to upgrade to a Windows 2003 >>> Enterprise Server (mainly for the IAS feature); the Enterprise CD >>> I'm using is not the R2 version though. (I do own an R2 version, but >>> we're not going to use that version yet) >>> >>> For obvious reasons, I need to do an upgrade - not a new >>> installation. >>> >>> When the CD autoruns, I'm unable to upgrade the OS. I get the >>> message stating that the OS on the computer is newer than the one on >>> the CD. It also states that only a 'new' installation will be >>> allowed. It also states that in case I want to keep the 'older' >>> installation; I should install this version on a different windows >>> directory. As, a matter of fact, the window that comes up has the >>> 'continue' button grayed out, so I'm unable to upgrade from the GUI. >>> Only 'Cancel' and 'Detail' buttons are enabled. >>> >>> I went ahead and tried booting the machine using the Win2k3 ENT >>> bootable CD and I got the following: You chose to install Windows on >>> a partition that contains another operating system. Installing >>> Windows on this partition might cause the other operating system to >>> function improperly.... >>> >>> I've gone as far as creating a 'test' new domain (running Windows >>> 2003 Standard SP2 and fully patched) on a virtual machine on my lab. >>> I get the same results as well. >>> >>> Seems to me that either I'm missing something or the upgrade path >>> broke after SP2. >>> >>> Thanks again! >>> >>> "Danny Sanders" wrote: >>> >>>>> Well, it doesn't quite work that way. >>>>> >>>>> As soon as I try to install it says that the OS on the hard disk >>>>> is newer than the one on the CD and it wants me to remove the old >>>>> installation. >>>>> >>>> Actually it does work that way. What I suspect is that you forgot >>>> to tell us that the existing install is Win 2k3 SP2 and the >>>> Enterprise version you are trying to upgrade to is Win 2k3 SP2 >>>> "R2". >>>> >>>> R2 is a 2 disk set. You will need to run adprep from the second CD >>>> of the R2 set on the Schema master for your domain, then upgrade >>>> using the Win 2k3 Enterprise R2 version. >>>> >>>> R2 is just a set of upgraded features that require a schema >>>> modification to >>>> prepare the domain for the new R2 features. >>>> If you were going to use the updated features you would run adprep >>>> from the >>>> second CD to prepare the domain, then install the R2 feature(s) >>>> only >>>> on the >>>> servers you need to use the new features on. It does not sound like >>>> you are >>>> wanting to use the new R2 features so just run adprep on the schema >>>> master >>>> and then upgrade the DC. >>>> hth >>>> DDS >>>> "Edward" <Edward@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>> news:E5DCB404-E209-44C9-8868-488AD362EE5B@microsoft.com... >>>>> Well, it doesn't quite work that way. >>>>> >>>>> As soon as I try to install it says that the OS on the hard disk >>>>> is newer than the one on the CD and it wants me to remove the old >>>>> installation. >>>>> >>>>> Maybe I need an 'upgrade' cd or media? I have the MSDN CDs we >>>>> receive from Microsoft. >>>>> >>>>> "Meinolf Weber" wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello Edward, >>>>>> >>>>>> Just insert the enterprise disk and with autostarting it should >>>>>> prompt >>>>>> you >>>>>> with the supported options. >>>>>> Best regards >>>>>> Meinolf Weber >>>>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, >>>>>> and >>>>>> confers >>>>>> no rights. >>>>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups >>>>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! >>>>>> http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm >>>>>>> I have a couple of domain controllers running Windows Server >>>>>>> 2003 Standard with SP2 and I'd like to know if it's possible to >>>>>>> upgrade them to the Enterprise edition? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Basically, I need to do this as IAS on the standard version only >>>>>>> supports up to 50 devices and I need to add more devices. >>>>>>> Apparently the enterprise version of IAS supports more devices. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>
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