Guest Fez Posted August 6, 2008 Posted August 6, 2008 Hi My XP machinces are running slower then usual. I intalled XP 6 months ago and now users are complaining that their machines are working slower then normal. I reinstalled the Win XP on one of the computer and this computer is working normally. We have not made any changes on our network and we have not installed any new software on the client computers. These machines are completely clean. Has any one encoutered this kind of problem? Does XP become slower over the time? Do we need to reinstall it after some time? Secondly, Can anyone recommend good registry cleaner and system cleaner software to tune up my xp machine? Thanks in advance
Guest Bob I Posted August 6, 2008 Posted August 6, 2008 Re: XP Forget the reg cleaner-snake oil approach. Check for background processes like crappy Anti-virus programs and the hard drive access reverting to PIO due to read errors, it should be DMA. Fez wrote: > Hi > > My XP machinces are running slower then usual. I intalled XP 6 months ago > and now users are complaining that their machines are working slower then > normal. I reinstalled the Win XP on one of the computer and this computer is > working normally. We have not made any changes on our network and we have not > installed any new software on the client computers. These machines are > completely clean. Has any one encoutered this kind of problem? Does XP become > slower over the time? Do we need to reinstall it after some time? > > Secondly, Can anyone recommend good registry cleaner and system cleaner > software to tune up my xp machine? > > Thanks in advance >
Guest R. McCarty Posted August 6, 2008 Posted August 6, 2008 Re: XP Forget Registry Cleaning. Slowness generally happens as the volume with Windows on it becomes fragmented. Also accumulated Temp folder content will impact performance. The Windows defrag app is not 100% effective, use of Perfect Disk or Diskeeper is better. Both offer a Server based app that can defragment client machines. "Fez" <Fez@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:80EFC074-10A7-4E96-BD44-A81C608019BA@microsoft.com... > Hi > > My XP machinces are running slower then usual. I intalled XP 6 months ago > and now users are complaining that their machines are working slower then > normal. I reinstalled the Win XP on one of the computer and this computer > is > working normally. We have not made any changes on our network and we have > not > installed any new software on the client computers. These machines are > completely clean. Has any one encoutered this kind of problem? Does XP > become > slower over the time? Do we need to reinstall it after some time? > > Secondly, Can anyone recommend good registry cleaner and system cleaner > software to tune up my xp machine? > > Thanks in advance >
Guest Ken Blake, MVP Posted August 6, 2008 Posted August 6, 2008 Re: XP On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:15:01 -0700, Fez <Fez@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > Hi > > My XP machinces are running slower then usual. I intalled XP 6 months ago > and now users are complaining that their machines are working slower then > normal. I reinstalled the Win XP on one of the computer and this computer is > working normally. We have not made any changes on our network and we have not > installed any new software on the client computers. These machines are > completely clean. How do you know that? > Has any one encoutered this kind of problem? There are very problems that are unique to a single user. I've never personally experienced it on any of my XP machines, though. > Does XP become slower over the time? No. > Do we need to reinstall it after some time? No. > Secondly, Can anyone recommend good registry cleaner and system cleaner > software to tune up my xp machine? There is no such thing as a "good registry cleaner" or good "system cleaner software." Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the registry alone and don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many people think, and what vendors of registry cleaning software try to convince you of, having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt you. The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit it may have. -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience Please Reply to the Newsgroup
Guest db.·.. > Posted August 6, 2008 Posted August 6, 2008 Re: XP it won't hurt to use this: http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/center/cleanup.htm if it doesn't help then you eliminated some of the possibilities. -- db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> "Fez" <Fez@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:80EFC074-10A7-4E96-BD44-A81C608019BA@microsoft.com... > Hi > > My XP machinces are running slower then usual. I intalled XP 6 months ago > and now users are complaining that their machines are working slower then > normal. I reinstalled the Win XP on one of the computer and this computer is > working normally. We have not made any changes on our network and we have not > installed any new software on the client computers. These machines are > completely clean. Has any one encoutered this kind of problem? Does XP become > slower over the time? Do we need to reinstall it after some time? > > Secondly, Can anyone recommend good registry cleaner and system cleaner > software to tune up my xp machine? > > Thanks in advance >
Guest Doug W. Posted August 7, 2008 Posted August 7, 2008 Re: XP " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:uLONHJB%23IHA.5040@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > it won't hurt to > use this: > > http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/center/cleanup.htm > > if it doesn't help > then you eliminated > some of the possibilities. > > -- > > db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> > Yes, if it doesn't help, it won't hurt. > "Fez" <Fez@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:80EFC074-10A7-4E96-BD44-A81C608019BA@microsoft.com... >> Hi >> >> My XP machinces are running slower then usual. I intalled XP >> 6 months ago >> and now users are complaining that their machines are working >> slower then >> normal. I reinstalled the Win XP on one of the computer and >> this computer is >> working normally. We have not made any changes on our network >> and we have not >> installed any new software on the client computers. These >> machines are >> completely clean. Has any one encoutered this kind of >> problem? Does XP become >> slower over the time? Do we need to reinstall it after some >> time? >> >> Secondly, Can anyone recommend good registry cleaner and >> system cleaner >> software to tune up my xp machine? >> >> Thanks in advance >> >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 7, 2008 Posted August 7, 2008 Re: XP ANY Registry cleaner will hurt Just because it's from Microsoft doesn't mean it isn't snake-oil. In fact, I'd say the opposite is more the case, lately. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:uLONHJB%23IHA.5040@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > it won't hurt to > use this: > > http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/center/cleanup.htm > > if it doesn't help > then you eliminated > some of the possibilities. > > -- > > db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> > > "Fez" <Fez@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:80EFC074-10A7-4E96-BD44-A81C608019BA@microsoft.com... >> Hi >> >> My XP machinces are running slower then usual. I intalled XP 6 months ago >> and now users are complaining that their machines are working slower then >> normal. I reinstalled the Win XP on one of the computer and this computer >> is >> working normally. We have not made any changes on our network and we have >> not >> installed any new software on the client computers. These machines are >> completely clean. Has any one encoutered this kind of problem? Does XP >> become >> slower over the time? Do we need to reinstall it after some time? >> >> Secondly, Can anyone recommend good registry cleaner and system cleaner >> software to tune up my xp machine? >> >> Thanks in advance >> >
Guest Bruce Chambers Posted August 7, 2008 Posted August 7, 2008 Re: XP Fez wrote: > Hi > > My XP machinces are running slower then usual. I intalled XP 6 months ago > and now users are complaining that their machines are working slower then > normal. I reinstalled the Win XP on one of the computer and this computer is > working normally. We have not made any changes on our network and we have not > installed any new software on the client computers. These machines are > completely clean. Has any one encoutered this kind of problem? Does XP become > slower over the time? If the users are cluttering up the hard drive with temporary files and if you're not clearing those temp files and defragmenting the hard drive periodically, yes, there will be a performance degradation. > Do we need to reinstall it after some time? > No, of course not. About the only time one actually *needs* to reinstall WinXP is after a hard drive failure. A properly maintain OS installation will last years (longer than the hardware, sometimes). > Secondly, Can anyone recommend good registry cleaner and system cleaner > software to tune up my xp machine? > There are no such things. All such products are pure snake oil. If you actually believe such things are useful, you need to find someone else, with a modicum of technical knowledge, experience, and ability, to support your users; your lack of knowledge may well be part of the users' problems. -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers. ~ Denis Diderot
Guest db.·.. > Posted August 7, 2008 Posted August 7, 2008 Re: XP well, just because your an MVP doesn't mean that your any good at providing tech assistance. -- db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:uhqgZoC%23IHA.1224@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > ANY Registry cleaner will hurt Just because it's from Microsoft doesn't mean it isn't snake-oil. In fact, I'd say the opposite is > more the case, lately. > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://grystmill.com > > " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:uLONHJB%23IHA.5040@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> it won't hurt to >> use this: >> >> http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/center/cleanup.htm >> >> if it doesn't help >> then you eliminated >> some of the possibilities. >> >> -- >> >> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> >> >> "Fez" <Fez@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:80EFC074-10A7-4E96-BD44-A81C608019BA@microsoft.com... >>> Hi >>> >>> My XP machinces are running slower then usual. I intalled XP 6 months ago >>> and now users are complaining that their machines are working slower then >>> normal. I reinstalled the Win XP on one of the computer and this computer is >>> working normally. We have not made any changes on our network and we have not >>> installed any new software on the client computers. These machines are >>> completely clean. Has any one encoutered this kind of problem? Does XP become >>> slower over the time? Do we need to reinstall it after some time? >>> >>> Secondly, Can anyone recommend good registry cleaner and system cleaner >>> software to tune up my xp machine? >>> >>> Thanks in advance >>> >> > >
Guest HeyBub Posted August 7, 2008 Posted August 7, 2008 Re: XP Gary S. Terhune wrote: > ANY Registry cleaner will hurt Just because it's from Microsoft > doesn't mean it isn't snake-oil. In fact, I'd say the opposite is > more the case, lately. I dunno. I personally think Microsoft's registry cleaner is a placebo. Users run it then feel better, thereby putting the lie to those who claim Microsoft doesn't listen to its users.
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 7, 2008 Posted August 7, 2008 Re: XP Doesn't mean that any sane tech should recommend it. We're talking Microsoft, here. They're capable of turning something innocuous into something very bad due to noting more than a boss saying, "So, what have you done for Microsoft today", and off the peon goes to "do something". -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "HeyBub" <heybub@gmail.com> wrote in message news:eRnjoyI%23IHA.4784@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Gary S. Terhune wrote: >> ANY Registry cleaner will hurt Just because it's from Microsoft >> doesn't mean it isn't snake-oil. In fact, I'd say the opposite is >> more the case, lately. > > I dunno. I personally think Microsoft's registry cleaner is a placebo. > > Users run it then feel better, thereby putting the lie to those who claim > Microsoft doesn't listen to its users. >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 7, 2008 Posted August 7, 2008 Re: XP Doesn't mean I'm not good at it, either. I'm certainly not expecting you to make that judgment. I don't assist you. Don't even like you, just based upon your idiotic formatting of your posts. In fact, that reminds me to block you (again) when I'm finished with this post. In the case at hand, Microsoft is definitely following the rest of the industry and shilling BAD software disguised as magical cures for what ails your Windows computer when there is no such thing. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:uW1GIqI%23IHA.872@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > well, just because your > an MVP doesn't mean > that your any good at > providing tech assistance. > > -- > > db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > news:uhqgZoC%23IHA.1224@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> ANY Registry cleaner will hurt Just because it's from Microsoft doesn't >> mean it isn't snake-oil. In fact, I'd say the opposite is more the case, >> lately. >> >> -- >> Gary S. Terhune >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> http://grystmill.com >> >> " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> >> wrote in message news:uLONHJB%23IHA.5040@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> it won't hurt to >>> use this: >>> >>> http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/center/cleanup.htm >>> >>> if it doesn't help >>> then you eliminated >>> some of the possibilities. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> >>> >>> "Fez" <Fez@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>> news:80EFC074-10A7-4E96-BD44-A81C608019BA@microsoft.com... >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> My XP machinces are running slower then usual. I intalled XP 6 months >>>> ago >>>> and now users are complaining that their machines are working slower >>>> then >>>> normal. I reinstalled the Win XP on one of the computer and this >>>> computer is >>>> working normally. We have not made any changes on our network and we >>>> have not >>>> installed any new software on the client computers. These machines are >>>> completely clean. Has any one encoutered this kind of problem? Does XP >>>> become >>>> slower over the time? Do we need to reinstall it after some time? >>>> >>>> Secondly, Can anyone recommend good registry cleaner and system cleaner >>>> software to tune up my xp machine? >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance >>>> >>> >> >> >
Guest db.·.. > Posted August 7, 2008 Posted August 7, 2008 Re: XP well, you should let windows go and switch to a different o.s. perhaps, you can become a MVP for Linux then your criticisms would be in line. -- db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:%23rrsebJ%23IHA.4800@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Doesn't mean I'm not good at it, either. I'm certainly not expecting you to make that judgment. I don't assist you. Don't even > like you, just based upon your idiotic formatting of your posts. In fact, that reminds me to block you (again) when I'm finished > with this post. > > In the case at hand, Microsoft is definitely following the rest of the industry and shilling BAD software disguised as magical > cures for what ails your Windows computer when there is no such thing. > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://grystmill.com > > " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:uW1GIqI%23IHA.872@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> well, just because your >> an MVP doesn't mean >> that your any good at >> providing tech assistance. >> >> -- >> >> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> >> >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:uhqgZoC%23IHA.1224@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> ANY Registry cleaner will hurt Just because it's from Microsoft doesn't mean it isn't snake-oil. In fact, I'd say the opposite >>> is more the case, lately. >>> >>> -- >>> Gary S. Terhune >>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>> http://grystmill.com >>> >>> " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>> news:uLONHJB%23IHA.5040@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>> it won't hurt to >>>> use this: >>>> >>>> http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/center/cleanup.htm >>>> >>>> if it doesn't help >>>> then you eliminated >>>> some of the possibilities. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> >>>> >>>> "Fez" <Fez@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:80EFC074-10A7-4E96-BD44-A81C608019BA@microsoft.com... >>>>> Hi >>>>> >>>>> My XP machinces are running slower then usual. I intalled XP 6 months ago >>>>> and now users are complaining that their machines are working slower then >>>>> normal. I reinstalled the Win XP on one of the computer and this computer is >>>>> working normally. We have not made any changes on our network and we have not >>>>> installed any new software on the client computers. These machines are >>>>> completely clean. Has any one encoutered this kind of problem? Does XP become >>>>> slower over the time? Do we need to reinstall it after some time? >>>>> >>>>> Secondly, Can anyone recommend good registry cleaner and system cleaner >>>>> software to tune up my xp machine? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks in advance >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 7, 2008 Posted August 7, 2008 Re: XP Changed my mind. I can't ignore you and let others suffer from your bad advice. Your lack of knowledge about what makes an MVP an MVP is a perfect example that shows you for what you are -- a shallow, ignorant jackass. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:OgtHX$K%23IHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > well, you should let > windows go and switch > to a different o.s. > > perhaps, you can become > a MVP for Linux then > your criticisms would > be in line. > > -- > > db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > news:%23rrsebJ%23IHA.4800@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Doesn't mean I'm not good at it, either. I'm certainly not expecting you >> to make that judgment. I don't assist you. Don't even like you, just >> based upon your idiotic formatting of your posts. In fact, that reminds >> me to block you (again) when I'm finished with this post. >> >> In the case at hand, Microsoft is definitely following the rest of the >> industry and shilling BAD software disguised as magical cures for what >> ails your Windows computer when there is no such thing. >> >> -- >> Gary S. Terhune >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> http://grystmill.com >> >> " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> >> wrote in message news:uW1GIqI%23IHA.872@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> well, just because your >>> an MVP doesn't mean >>> that your any good at >>> providing tech assistance. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> >>> >>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >>> news:uhqgZoC%23IHA.1224@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>> ANY Registry cleaner will hurt Just because it's from Microsoft doesn't >>>> mean it isn't snake-oil. In fact, I'd say the opposite is more the >>>> case, lately. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Gary S. Terhune >>>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>>> http://grystmill.com >>>> >>>> " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> >>>> wrote in message news:uLONHJB%23IHA.5040@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>> it won't hurt to >>>>> use this: >>>>> >>>>> http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/center/cleanup.htm >>>>> >>>>> if it doesn't help >>>>> then you eliminated >>>>> some of the possibilities. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> >>>>> >>>>> "Fez" <Fez@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:80EFC074-10A7-4E96-BD44-A81C608019BA@microsoft.com... >>>>>> Hi >>>>>> >>>>>> My XP machinces are running slower then usual. I intalled XP 6 months >>>>>> ago >>>>>> and now users are complaining that their machines are working slower >>>>>> then >>>>>> normal. I reinstalled the Win XP on one of the computer and this >>>>>> computer is >>>>>> working normally. We have not made any changes on our network and we >>>>>> have not >>>>>> installed any new software on the client computers. These machines >>>>>> are >>>>>> completely clean. Has any one encoutered this kind of problem? Does >>>>>> XP become >>>>>> slower over the time? Do we need to reinstall it after some time? >>>>>> >>>>>> Secondly, Can anyone recommend good registry cleaner and system >>>>>> cleaner >>>>>> software to tune up my xp machine? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks in advance >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >
Guest Bill in Co. Posted August 8, 2008 Posted August 8, 2008 Re: XP Gary, please do keep in mind that you're talking to the same person who also said that a transformer converts AC to DC (etc, etc). (that, in addition to his "intelligent" advice on using a so-called "Microsoft recommended" registry cleaner - snort!) Gary S. Terhune wrote: > Changed my mind. I can't ignore you and let others suffer from your bad > advice. > > Your lack of knowledge about what makes an MVP an MVP is a perfect example > that shows you for what you are -- a shallow, ignorant jackass. > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://grystmill.com > > " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> > wrote > in message news:OgtHX$K%23IHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> well, you should let >> windows go and switch >> to a different o.s. >> >> perhaps, you can become >> a MVP for Linux then >> your criticisms would >> be in line. >> >> -- >> >> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> >> >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >> news:%23rrsebJ%23IHA.4800@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> Doesn't mean I'm not good at it, either. I'm certainly not expecting you >>> to make that judgment. I don't assist you. Don't even like you, just >>> based upon your idiotic formatting of your posts. In fact, that reminds >>> me to block you (again) when I'm finished with this post. >>> >>> In the case at hand, Microsoft is definitely following the rest of the >>> industry and shilling BAD software disguised as magical cures for what >>> ails your Windows computer when there is no such thing. >>> >>> -- >>> Gary S. Terhune >>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>> http://grystmill.com >>> >>> " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> >>> wrote in message news:uW1GIqI%23IHA.872@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>> well, just because your >>>> an MVP doesn't mean >>>> that your any good at >>>> providing tech assistance. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> >>>> >>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >>>> news:uhqgZoC%23IHA.1224@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>> ANY Registry cleaner will hurt Just because it's from Microsoft >>>>> doesn't >>>>> mean it isn't snake-oil. In fact, I'd say the opposite is more the >>>>> case, lately. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Gary S. Terhune >>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>>>> http://grystmill.com >>>>> >>>>> " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> >>>>> wrote in message news:uLONHJB%23IHA.5040@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>> it won't hurt to >>>>>> use this: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/center/cleanup.htm >>>>>> >>>>>> if it doesn't help >>>>>> then you eliminated >>>>>> some of the possibilities. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Fez" <Fez@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:80EFC074-10A7-4E96-BD44-A81C608019BA@microsoft.com... >>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My XP machinces are running slower then usual. I intalled XP 6 >>>>>>> months >>>>>>> ago >>>>>>> and now users are complaining that their machines are working slower >>>>>>> then >>>>>>> normal. I reinstalled the Win XP on one of the computer and this >>>>>>> computer is >>>>>>> working normally. We have not made any changes on our network and we >>>>>>> have not >>>>>>> installed any new software on the client computers. These machines >>>>>>> are >>>>>>> completely clean. Has any one encoutered this kind of problem? Does >>>>>>> XP become >>>>>>> slower over the time? Do we need to reinstall it after some time? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Secondly, Can anyone recommend good registry cleaner and system >>>>>>> cleaner >>>>>>> software to tune up my xp machine? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks in advance
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 8, 2008 Posted August 8, 2008 Re: XP No problem. I've known that for at least a couple of years, now. But there's always this fine line to walk: Do I block someone, for whatever reason, (say just to reduce the number of ignorant jackasses in the NG list, which clears out 90 percent of posts in a group like this,) if they are passing out crappy advice to people? Do I not have a responsibility to prevent such an ignorant jackass from leading innocents astray and potentially into disaster? What is my responsibility towards those poor innocents? -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:OK96wPP%23IHA.3392@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Gary, please do keep in mind that you're talking to the same person who > also said that a transformer converts AC to DC (etc, etc). (that, in > addition to his "intelligent" advice on using a so-called "Microsoft > recommended" registry cleaner - snort!) > > Gary S. Terhune wrote: >> Changed my mind. I can't ignore you and let others suffer from your bad >> advice. >> >> Your lack of knowledge about what makes an MVP an MVP is a perfect >> example >> that shows you for what you are -- a shallow, ignorant jackass. >> >> -- >> Gary S. Terhune >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> http://grystmill.com >> >> " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> >> wrote >> in message news:OgtHX$K%23IHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> well, you should let >>> windows go and switch >>> to a different o.s. >>> >>> perhaps, you can become >>> a MVP for Linux then >>> your criticisms would >>> be in line. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> >>> >>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >>> news:%23rrsebJ%23IHA.4800@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> Doesn't mean I'm not good at it, either. I'm certainly not expecting >>>> you >>>> to make that judgment. I don't assist you. Don't even like you, just >>>> based upon your idiotic formatting of your posts. In fact, that reminds >>>> me to block you (again) when I'm finished with this post. >>>> >>>> In the case at hand, Microsoft is definitely following the rest of the >>>> industry and shilling BAD software disguised as magical cures for what >>>> ails your Windows computer when there is no such thing. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Gary S. Terhune >>>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>>> http://grystmill.com >>>> >>>> " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> >>>> wrote in message news:uW1GIqI%23IHA.872@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>> well, just because your >>>>> an MVP doesn't mean >>>>> that your any good at >>>>> providing tech assistance. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> >>>>> >>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >>>>> news:uhqgZoC%23IHA.1224@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>> ANY Registry cleaner will hurt Just because it's from Microsoft >>>>>> doesn't >>>>>> mean it isn't snake-oil. In fact, I'd say the opposite is more the >>>>>> case, lately. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Gary S. Terhune >>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>>>>> http://grystmill.com >>>>>> >>>>>> " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> >>>>>> wrote in message news:uLONHJB%23IHA.5040@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> it won't hurt to >>>>>>> use this: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/center/cleanup.htm >>>>>>> >>>>>>> if it doesn't help >>>>>>> then you eliminated >>>>>>> some of the possibilities. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Fez" <Fez@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:80EFC074-10A7-4E96-BD44-A81C608019BA@microsoft.com... >>>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My XP machinces are running slower then usual. I intalled XP 6 >>>>>>>> months >>>>>>>> ago >>>>>>>> and now users are complaining that their machines are working >>>>>>>> slower >>>>>>>> then >>>>>>>> normal. I reinstalled the Win XP on one of the computer and this >>>>>>>> computer is >>>>>>>> working normally. We have not made any changes on our network and >>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>> have not >>>>>>>> installed any new software on the client computers. These machines >>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>> completely clean. Has any one encoutered this kind of problem? Does >>>>>>>> XP become >>>>>>>> slower over the time? Do we need to reinstall it after some time? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Secondly, Can anyone recommend good registry cleaner and system >>>>>>>> cleaner >>>>>>>> software to tune up my xp machine? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks in advance > >
Guest Bill in Co. Posted August 8, 2008 Posted August 8, 2008 Re: XP Gary S. Terhune wrote: > No problem. I've known that for at least a couple of years, now. But > there's > always this fine line to walk: Do I block someone, for whatever reason, > (say > just to reduce the number of ignorant jackasses in the NG list, which > clears > out 90 percent of posts in a group like this,) if they are passing out > crappy advice to people? Do I not have a responsibility to prevent such an > ignorant jackass from leading innocents astray and potentially into > disaster? I think so. > What is my responsibility towards those poor innocents? To help them. > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://grystmill.com > > "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message > news:OK96wPP%23IHA.3392@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Gary, please do keep in mind that you're talking to the same person who >> also said that a transformer converts AC to DC (etc, etc). (that, in >> addition to his "intelligent" advice on using a so-called "Microsoft >> recommended" registry cleaner - snort!) >> >> Gary S. Terhune wrote: >>> Changed my mind. I can't ignore you and let others suffer from your bad >>> advice. >>> >>> Your lack of knowledge about what makes an MVP an MVP is a perfect >>> example >>> that shows you for what you are -- a shallow, ignorant jackass. >>> >>> -- >>> Gary S. Terhune >>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>> http://grystmill.com >>> >>> " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> >>> wrote >>> in message news:OgtHX$K%23IHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>> well, you should let >>>> windows go and switch >>>> to a different o.s. >>>> >>>> perhaps, you can become >>>> a MVP for Linux then >>>> your criticisms would >>>> be in line. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> >>>> >>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >>>> news:%23rrsebJ%23IHA.4800@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>> Doesn't mean I'm not good at it, either. I'm certainly not expecting >>>>> you >>>>> to make that judgment. I don't assist you. Don't even like you, just >>>>> based upon your idiotic formatting of your posts. In fact, that >>>>> reminds >>>>> me to block you (again) when I'm finished with this post. >>>>> >>>>> In the case at hand, Microsoft is definitely following the rest of the >>>>> industry and shilling BAD software disguised as magical cures for what >>>>> ails your Windows computer when there is no such thing. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Gary S. Terhune >>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>>>> http://grystmill.com >>>>> >>>>> " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> >>>>> wrote in message news:uW1GIqI%23IHA.872@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>> well, just because your >>>>>> an MVP doesn't mean >>>>>> that your any good at >>>>>> providing tech assistance. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >>>>>> news:uhqgZoC%23IHA.1224@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> ANY Registry cleaner will hurt Just because it's from Microsoft >>>>>>> doesn't >>>>>>> mean it isn't snake-oil. In fact, I'd say the opposite is more the >>>>>>> case, lately. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune >>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>>>>>> http://grystmill.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." >>>>>>> <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> >>>>>>> wrote in message news:uLONHJB%23IHA.5040@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>> it won't hurt to >>>>>>>> use this: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/center/cleanup.htm >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> if it doesn't help >>>>>>>> then you eliminated >>>>>>>> some of the possibilities. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Fez" <Fez@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:80EFC074-10A7-4E96-BD44-A81C608019BA@microsoft.com... >>>>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My XP machinces are running slower then usual. I intalled XP 6 >>>>>>>>> months >>>>>>>>> ago >>>>>>>>> and now users are complaining that their machines are working >>>>>>>>> slower >>>>>>>>> then >>>>>>>>> normal. I reinstalled the Win XP on one of the computer and this >>>>>>>>> computer is >>>>>>>>> working normally. We have not made any changes on our network and >>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>> have not >>>>>>>>> installed any new software on the client computers. These machines >>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>> completely clean. Has any one encoutered this kind of problem? >>>>>>>>> Does >>>>>>>>> XP become >>>>>>>>> slower over the time? Do we need to reinstall it after some time? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Secondly, Can anyone recommend good registry cleaner and system >>>>>>>>> cleaner >>>>>>>>> software to tune up my xp machine? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 8, 2008 Posted August 8, 2008 Re: XP Thank you for the affirmation of what I'd already decided, Bill. You've truly been a big help, both in the past and lately. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:%23Vk$LTY%23IHA.3392@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Gary S. Terhune wrote: >> No problem. I've known that for at least a couple of years, now. But >> there's >> always this fine line to walk: Do I block someone, for whatever reason, >> (say >> just to reduce the number of ignorant jackasses in the NG list, which >> clears >> out 90 percent of posts in a group like this,) if they are passing out >> crappy advice to people? Do I not have a responsibility to prevent such >> an >> ignorant jackass from leading innocents astray and potentially into >> disaster? > > I think so. > >> What is my responsibility towards those poor innocents? > > To help them. > >> -- >> Gary S. Terhune >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> http://grystmill.com >> >> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message >> news:OK96wPP%23IHA.3392@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> Gary, please do keep in mind that you're talking to the same person who >>> also said that a transformer converts AC to DC (etc, etc). (that, in >>> addition to his "intelligent" advice on using a so-called "Microsoft >>> recommended" registry cleaner - snort!) >>> >>> Gary S. Terhune wrote: >>>> Changed my mind. I can't ignore you and let others suffer from your bad >>>> advice. >>>> >>>> Your lack of knowledge about what makes an MVP an MVP is a perfect >>>> example >>>> that shows you for what you are -- a shallow, ignorant jackass. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Gary S. Terhune >>>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>>> http://grystmill.com >>>> >>>> " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> >>>> wrote >>>> in message news:OgtHX$K%23IHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>> well, you should let >>>>> windows go and switch >>>>> to a different o.s. >>>>> >>>>> perhaps, you can become >>>>> a MVP for Linux then >>>>> your criticisms would >>>>> be in line. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> >>>>> >>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >>>>> news:%23rrsebJ%23IHA.4800@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>> Doesn't mean I'm not good at it, either. I'm certainly not expecting >>>>>> you >>>>>> to make that judgment. I don't assist you. Don't even like you, just >>>>>> based upon your idiotic formatting of your posts. In fact, that >>>>>> reminds >>>>>> me to block you (again) when I'm finished with this post. >>>>>> >>>>>> In the case at hand, Microsoft is definitely following the rest of >>>>>> the >>>>>> industry and shilling BAD software disguised as magical cures for >>>>>> what >>>>>> ails your Windows computer when there is no such thing. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Gary S. Terhune >>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>>>>> http://grystmill.com >>>>>> >>>>>> " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> >>>>>> wrote in message news:uW1GIqI%23IHA.872@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> well, just because your >>>>>>> an MVP doesn't mean >>>>>>> that your any good at >>>>>>> providing tech assistance. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:uhqgZoC%23IHA.1224@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>> ANY Registry cleaner will hurt Just because it's from Microsoft >>>>>>>> doesn't >>>>>>>> mean it isn't snake-oil. In fact, I'd say the opposite is more the >>>>>>>> case, lately. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune >>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>>>>>>> http://grystmill.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." >>>>>>>> <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> >>>>>>>> wrote in message news:uLONHJB%23IHA.5040@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>> it won't hurt to >>>>>>>>> use this: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/center/cleanup.htm >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> if it doesn't help >>>>>>>>> then you eliminated >>>>>>>>> some of the possibilities. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Fez" <Fez@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:80EFC074-10A7-4E96-BD44-A81C608019BA@microsoft.com... >>>>>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> My XP machinces are running slower then usual. I intalled XP 6 >>>>>>>>>> months >>>>>>>>>> ago >>>>>>>>>> and now users are complaining that their machines are working >>>>>>>>>> slower >>>>>>>>>> then >>>>>>>>>> normal. I reinstalled the Win XP on one of the computer and this >>>>>>>>>> computer is >>>>>>>>>> working normally. We have not made any changes on our network and >>>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>> have not >>>>>>>>>> installed any new software on the client computers. These >>>>>>>>>> machines >>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>> completely clean. Has any one encoutered this kind of problem? >>>>>>>>>> Does >>>>>>>>>> XP become >>>>>>>>>> slower over the time? Do we need to reinstall it after some time? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Secondly, Can anyone recommend good registry cleaner and system >>>>>>>>>> cleaner >>>>>>>>>> software to tune up my xp machine? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance > >
Guest Dustin Cook Posted August 15, 2008 Posted August 15, 2008 Re: XP "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in news:ft5k94t4g7bsodt1m2qgsm923lhq8s4hn1@4ax.com: > On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:15:01 -0700, Fez <Fez@discussions.microsoft.com> > wrote: > >> Hi >> >> My XP machinces are running slower then usual. I intalled XP 6 months >> ago and now users are complaining that their machines are working >> slower then normal. I reinstalled the Win XP on one of the computer >> and this computer is working normally. We have not made any changes >> on our network and we have not installed any new software on the >> client computers. These machines are completely clean. > > > How do you know that? > > >> Has any one encoutered this kind of problem? > > > There are very problems that are unique to a single user. I've never > personally experienced it on any of my XP machines, though. > > >> Does XP become slower over the time? > > > No. > > >> Do we need to reinstall it after some time? > > > No. > > >> Secondly, Can anyone recommend good registry cleaner and system >> cleaner software to tune up my xp machine? > > > There is no such thing as a "good registry cleaner" or good "system > cleaner software." Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. > Cleaning of the registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the > registry alone and don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many > people think, and what vendors of registry cleaning software try to > convince you of, having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt > you. http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm Seems MS disagrees.. -- Regards, Dustin Cook, Author of BugHunter BugHunter - http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk MalwareBytes - http://www.malwarebytes.org
Guest Dustin Cook Posted August 15, 2008 Posted August 15, 2008 Re: XP Bruce Chambers <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in news:#M7nUvC#IHA.4156@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl: > Fez wrote: >> Hi >> >> My XP machinces are running slower then usual. I intalled XP 6 months >> ago and now users are complaining that their machines are working >> slower then normal. I reinstalled the Win XP on one of the computer >> and this computer is working normally. We have not made any changes >> on our network and we have not installed any new software on the >> client computers. These machines are completely clean. Has any one >> encoutered this kind of problem? Does XP become slower over the time? > > > If the users are cluttering up the hard drive with temporary > files and > if you're not clearing those temp files and defragmenting the hard > drive periodically, yes, there will be a performance degradation. > > >> Do we need to reinstall it after some time? >> > > No, of course not. About the only time one actually *needs* to > reinstall WinXP is after a hard drive failure. A properly maintain OS > installation will last years (longer than the hardware, sometimes). > > >> Secondly, Can anyone recommend good registry cleaner and system >> cleaner software to tune up my xp machine? >> > > There are no such things. All such products are pure snake oil. > If > you actually believe such things are useful, you need to find someone > else, with a modicum of technical knowledge, experience, and ability, > to support your users; your lack of knowledge may well be part of the > users' problems. > > Hi Bruce, I don't practice registry cleaning myself, and I was surprised to see MS discussing why you should do it. So.. Do you have any urls handy that discuss the hazards specifically? -- Regards, Dustin Cook, Author of BugHunter BugHunter - http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk MalwareBytes - http://www.malwarebytes.org
Guest Unknown Posted August 15, 2008 Posted August 15, 2008 Re: XP MS doesn't disagree------they want your $49. "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message news:Xns9AFBA4C0257DAHHI2948AJD832@69.16.185.247... > "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in > news:ft5k94t4g7bsodt1m2qgsm923lhq8s4hn1@4ax.com: > >> On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:15:01 -0700, Fez <Fez@discussions.microsoft.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> >>> My XP machinces are running slower then usual. I intalled XP 6 months >>> ago and now users are complaining that their machines are working >>> slower then normal. I reinstalled the Win XP on one of the computer >>> and this computer is working normally. We have not made any changes >>> on our network and we have not installed any new software on the >>> client computers. These machines are completely clean. >> >> >> How do you know that? >> >> >>> Has any one encoutered this kind of problem? >> >> >> There are very problems that are unique to a single user. I've never >> personally experienced it on any of my XP machines, though. >> >> >>> Does XP become slower over the time? >> >> >> No. >> >> >>> Do we need to reinstall it after some time? >> >> >> No. >> >> >>> Secondly, Can anyone recommend good registry cleaner and system >>> cleaner software to tune up my xp machine? >> >> >> There is no such thing as a "good registry cleaner" or good "system >> cleaner software." Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. >> Cleaning of the registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the >> registry alone and don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many >> people think, and what vendors of registry cleaning software try to >> convince you of, having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt >> you. > > http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm > > Seems MS disagrees.. > > > -- > Regards, > Dustin Cook, Author of BugHunter > BugHunter - http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk > MalwareBytes - http://www.malwarebytes.org > >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 15, 2008 Posted August 15, 2008 Re: XP Microsoft is wrong about a LOT of things. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message news:Xns9AFBA4C0257DAHHI2948AJD832@69.16.185.247... > "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in > news:ft5k94t4g7bsodt1m2qgsm923lhq8s4hn1@4ax.com: > >> On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:15:01 -0700, Fez <Fez@discussions.microsoft.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> >>> My XP machinces are running slower then usual. I intalled XP 6 months >>> ago and now users are complaining that their machines are working >>> slower then normal. I reinstalled the Win XP on one of the computer >>> and this computer is working normally. We have not made any changes >>> on our network and we have not installed any new software on the >>> client computers. These machines are completely clean. >> >> >> How do you know that? >> >> >>> Has any one encoutered this kind of problem? >> >> >> There are very problems that are unique to a single user. I've never >> personally experienced it on any of my XP machines, though. >> >> >>> Does XP become slower over the time? >> >> >> No. >> >> >>> Do we need to reinstall it after some time? >> >> >> No. >> >> >>> Secondly, Can anyone recommend good registry cleaner and system >>> cleaner software to tune up my xp machine? >> >> >> There is no such thing as a "good registry cleaner" or good "system >> cleaner software." Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. >> Cleaning of the registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the >> registry alone and don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many >> people think, and what vendors of registry cleaning software try to >> convince you of, having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt >> you. > > http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm > > Seems MS disagrees.. > > > -- > Regards, > Dustin Cook, Author of BugHunter > BugHunter - http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk > MalwareBytes - http://www.malwarebytes.org > >
Guest Bruce Chambers Posted August 15, 2008 Posted August 15, 2008 Re: XP Dustin Cook wrote: > > > Hi Bruce, > > I don't practice registry cleaning myself, and I was surprised to see MS > discussing why you should do it. > Well, Microsoft *is* a business, after all. Why should they miss an opportunity to separate fools from their money, when others are already preying on the fears of the technically ignorant? We can only hope that Microsoft's offering, coming as it does from the OS manufacturer, is likely to be less harmful than such products offered by 3rd parties. > So.. Do you have any urls handy that discuss the hazards specifically? > > Why I don't use registry cleaners http://www.edbott.com/weblog/?p=643 AumHa Forums • View topic - AUMHA Discussion: Should I Use a Registry Cleaner? http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099 -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers. ~ Denis Diderot
Guest Ken Blake Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 Re: XP "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message news:Xns9AFBA4C0257DAHHI2948AJD832@69.16.185.247... > "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in > news:ft5k94t4g7bsodt1m2qgsm923lhq8s4hn1@4ax.com: > >> On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:15:01 -0700, Fez <Fez@discussions.microsoft.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> >>> My XP machinces are running slower then usual. I intalled XP 6 months >>> ago and now users are complaining that their machines are working >>> slower then normal. I reinstalled the Win XP on one of the computer >>> and this computer is working normally. We have not made any changes >>> on our network and we have not installed any new software on the >>> client computers. These machines are completely clean. >> >> >> How do you know that? >> >> >>> Has any one encoutered this kind of problem? >> >> >> There are very problems that are unique to a single user. I've never >> personally experienced it on any of my XP machines, though. >> >> >>> Does XP become slower over the time? >> >> >> No. >> >> >>> Do we need to reinstall it after some time? >> >> >> No. >> >> >>> Secondly, Can anyone recommend good registry cleaner and system >>> cleaner software to tune up my xp machine? >> >> >> There is no such thing as a "good registry cleaner" or good "system >> cleaner software." Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. >> Cleaning of the registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the >> registry alone and don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many >> people think, and what vendors of registry cleaning software try to >> convince you of, having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt >> you. > > http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm > > Seems MS disagrees.. Microsoft is a company made up of many thousands of different people, with different skill levels, different strengths, different weaknesses, and different responsibilities. They certainly don't all have the same views on everything. Those people with responsibility for marketing of software may disagree, because their interest is selling you software that does this, but Mark Russinovich, one of the most respected technical names at Microsoft, happens to agree that registry cleaners should *not* be used. I'm not using my home computer at the moment, and don't have a link handy to the page in which Russinovich talks about this subject, but I hope someone else here will post it.
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 Re: XP Take your pick: http://www.google.com/search?q=russinovich+%22registry+cleaner%22&spell=1 -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message news:eIR6gk7$IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:Xns9AFBA4C0257DAHHI2948AJD832@69.16.185.247... > >> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in >> news:ft5k94t4g7bsodt1m2qgsm923lhq8s4hn1@4ax.com: >> >>> On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:15:01 -0700, Fez <Fez@discussions.microsoft.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> My XP machinces are running slower then usual. I intalled XP 6 months >>>> ago and now users are complaining that their machines are working >>>> slower then normal. I reinstalled the Win XP on one of the computer >>>> and this computer is working normally. We have not made any changes >>>> on our network and we have not installed any new software on the >>>> client computers. These machines are completely clean. >>> >>> >>> How do you know that? >>> >>> >>>> Has any one encoutered this kind of problem? >>> >>> >>> There are very problems that are unique to a single user. I've never >>> personally experienced it on any of my XP machines, though. >>> >>> >>>> Does XP become slower over the time? >>> >>> >>> No. >>> >>> >>>> Do we need to reinstall it after some time? >>> >>> >>> No. >>> >>> >>>> Secondly, Can anyone recommend good registry cleaner and system >>>> cleaner software to tune up my xp machine? >>> >>> >>> There is no such thing as a "good registry cleaner" or good "system >>> cleaner software." Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. >>> Cleaning of the registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the >>> registry alone and don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many >>> people think, and what vendors of registry cleaning software try to >>> convince you of, having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt >>> you. >> >> http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm >> >> Seems MS disagrees.. > > > Microsoft is a company made up of many thousands of different people, with > different skill levels, different strengths, different weaknesses, and > different responsibilities. They certainly don't all have the same views > on everything. Those people with responsibility for marketing of software > may disagree, because their interest is selling you software that does > this, but Mark Russinovich, one of the most respected technical names at > Microsoft, happens to agree that registry cleaners should *not* be used. > > I'm not using my home computer at the moment, and don't have a link handy > to the page in which Russinovich talks about this subject, but I hope > someone else here will post it. > >
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