Guest db.·.. > Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 Re: XP 1) Microsoft is the absolute source of information pertaining to windows. all others is secondary. 2) their registry cleaner is a free online safety scanner, therefore there is no marketing or selling. 3) the fact is that the registry can be cleaned and defrag'd. therefore, it can be done at the discretion and convenience of each windows user. 4) To utilize your argument: Russinovich skill levels do not match those of the software engineers that created the One Care system. In fact if Russinovich believed the registry should be left alone, he should not have created a utility to defrag the registry hive. -- db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> "Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message news:eIR6gk7$IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message news:Xns9AFBA4C0257DAHHI2948AJD832@69.16.185.247... > >> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in >> news:ft5k94t4g7bsodt1m2qgsm923lhq8s4hn1@4ax.com: >> >>> On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:15:01 -0700, Fez <Fez@discussions.microsoft.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> My XP machinces are running slower then usual. I intalled XP 6 months >>>> ago and now users are complaining that their machines are working >>>> slower then normal. I reinstalled the Win XP on one of the computer >>>> and this computer is working normally. We have not made any changes >>>> on our network and we have not installed any new software on the >>>> client computers. These machines are completely clean. >>> >>> >>> How do you know that? >>> >>> >>>> Has any one encoutered this kind of problem? >>> >>> >>> There are very problems that are unique to a single user. I've never >>> personally experienced it on any of my XP machines, though. >>> >>> >>>> Does XP become slower over the time? >>> >>> >>> No. >>> >>> >>>> Do we need to reinstall it after some time? >>> >>> >>> No. >>> >>> >>>> Secondly, Can anyone recommend good registry cleaner and system >>>> cleaner software to tune up my xp machine? >>> >>> >>> There is no such thing as a "good registry cleaner" or good "system >>> cleaner software." Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. >>> Cleaning of the registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the >>> registry alone and don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many >>> people think, and what vendors of registry cleaning software try to >>> convince you of, having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt >>> you. >> >> http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm >> >> Seems MS disagrees.. > > > Microsoft is a company made up of many thousands of different people, with different skill levels, different strengths, different > weaknesses, and different responsibilities. They certainly don't all have the same views on everything. Those people with > responsibility for marketing of software may disagree, because their interest is selling you software that does this, but Mark > Russinovich, one of the most respected technical names at Microsoft, happens to agree that registry cleaners should *not* be used. > > I'm not using my home computer at the moment, and don't have a link handy to the page in which Russinovich talks about this > subject, but I hope someone else here will post it. > >
Guest FredW Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 Re: XP On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 08:59:54 -0700, "Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote: >"Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message >news:Xns9AFBA4C0257DAHHI2948AJD832@69.16.185.247... > >> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in >> news:ft5k94t4g7bsodt1m2qgsm923lhq8s4hn1@4ax.com: >> >>> On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:15:01 -0700, Fez <Fez@discussions.microsoft.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Secondly, Can anyone recommend good registry cleaner and system >>>> cleaner software to tune up my xp machine? >>> >>> >>> There is no such thing as a "good registry cleaner" or good "system >>> cleaner software." Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. >>> Cleaning of the registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the >>> registry alone and don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many >>> people think, and what vendors of registry cleaning software try to >>> convince you of, having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt >>> you. >> >> http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm >> >> Seems MS disagrees.. > > >Microsoft is a company made up of many thousands of different people, with >different skill levels, different strengths, different weaknesses, and >different responsibilities. They certainly don't all have the same views on >everything. Those people with responsibility for marketing of software may >disagree, because their interest is selling you software that does this, but >Mark Russinovich, one of the most respected technical names at Microsoft, >happens to agree that registry cleaners should *not* be used. > >I'm not using my home computer at the moment, and don't have a link handy to >the page in which Russinovich talks about this subject, but I hope someone >else here will post it. http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099 -- Fred W. (NL)
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 Re: XP " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:ujTYCg8$IHA.2072@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > 1) Microsoft is the absolute > source of information pertaining > to windows. all others is secondary. That's a total crock, Idiot. > 2) their registry cleaner is a free > online safety scanner, therefore > there is no marketing or selling. Here is is in words of two sylables, max, so maybe you'll understand Idiot: Free Windows tools equals "good will", equals more sales equals more money. Got it? > 3) the fact is that the registry can be > cleaned and defrag'd. therefore, it > can be done at the discretion and > convenience of each windows user. Fact is that they are sold (or given away for reasons selfless and not at all selfless) as ways for "AVERAGE USERS" to "tune up or fix their PCs. Fact is, they do nothing of the sort. It's a HUGE LIE!!! Of course, you're no dobt one of those people who claims caveat emptor". Well, when you SELL crap by making TOTALLY BOGUS CLAIMS, that amounts to FRAUD! Of course every user has the right to do what they want to their computer. This discussion isn't about that. It's about whether OneCare Registry Cleaner is bogus, dangerous crap or not. It is. > 4) To utilize your argument: > Russinovich skill levels do not match > those of the software engineers that > created the One Care system. ROTFLMAO!!!!! THAT is a TOTAL load of BS! Those OneCare programmers don't even come close to the skill levels of most of the rest of Microsoft's programmers, let alone those of Russinovich. > In fact if Russinovich believed the > registry should be left alone, he > should not have created a utility > to defrag the registry hive. You just can't help showing how stupid youu are, can you? Russinovich says nothing in teh referenced articles about defragmenting the Registry, he only speaks of "cleaning" the Resistry. Where does your stupidity enter into it? Where you can't tell the difference between those two entirely different topics. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com > "Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message > news:eIR6gk7$IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:Xns9AFBA4C0257DAHHI2948AJD832@69.16.185.247... >> >>> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in >>> news:ft5k94t4g7bsodt1m2qgsm923lhq8s4hn1@4ax.com: >>> >>>> On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:15:01 -0700, Fez <Fez@discussions.microsoft.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi >>>>> >>>>> My XP machinces are running slower then usual. I intalled XP 6 months >>>>> ago and now users are complaining that their machines are working >>>>> slower then normal. I reinstalled the Win XP on one of the computer >>>>> and this computer is working normally. We have not made any changes >>>>> on our network and we have not installed any new software on the >>>>> client computers. These machines are completely clean. >>>> >>>> >>>> How do you know that? >>>> >>>> >>>>> Has any one encoutered this kind of problem? >>>> >>>> >>>> There are very problems that are unique to a single user. I've never >>>> personally experienced it on any of my XP machines, though. >>>> >>>> >>>>> Does XP become slower over the time? >>>> >>>> >>>> No. >>>> >>>> >>>>> Do we need to reinstall it after some time? >>>> >>>> >>>> No. >>>> >>>> >>>>> Secondly, Can anyone recommend good registry cleaner and system >>>>> cleaner software to tune up my xp machine? >>>> >>>> >>>> There is no such thing as a "good registry cleaner" or good "system >>>> cleaner software." Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. >>>> Cleaning of the registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the >>>> registry alone and don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many >>>> people think, and what vendors of registry cleaning software try to >>>> convince you of, having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt >>>> you. >>> >>> http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm >>> >>> Seems MS disagrees.. >> >> >> Microsoft is a company made up of many thousands of different people, >> with different skill levels, different strengths, different weaknesses, >> and different responsibilities. They certainly don't all have the same >> views on everything. Those people with responsibility for marketing of >> software may disagree, because their interest is selling you software >> that does this, but Mark Russinovich, one of the most respected technical >> names at Microsoft, happens to agree that registry cleaners should *not* >> be used. >> >> I'm not using my home computer at the moment, and don't have a link handy >> to the page in which Russinovich talks about this subject, but I hope >> someone else here will post it. >> >> >
Guest Bill in Co. Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 Re: XP Gary, keep in mind you're still trying to reason with a guy who, in addition to jumping on this (so-alleged by him) "Microsoft-approved, registry cleaner" bandwagon, also insists that a transformer converts AC to DC! (and when I pointed it out to him that he was wrong, couldn't, and wouldn't, ever admit that (due to his inflatable ego) So, what do you expect? Do you know the definition of insanity? :-) Gary S. Terhune wrote: > " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> > wrote > in message news:ujTYCg8$IHA.2072@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> 1) Microsoft is the absolute >> source of information pertaining >> to windows. all others is secondary. > > That's a total crock, Idiot. > >> 2) their registry cleaner is a free >> online safety scanner, therefore >> there is no marketing or selling. > > Here is is in words of two sylables, max, so maybe you'll understand > Idiot: > Free Windows tools equals "good will", equals more sales equals more > money. > Got it? > >> 3) the fact is that the registry can be >> cleaned and defrag'd. therefore, it >> can be done at the discretion and >> convenience of each windows user. > > Fact is that they are sold (or given away for reasons selfless and not at > all selfless) as ways for "AVERAGE USERS" to "tune up or fix their PCs. > Fact > is, they do nothing of the sort. It's a HUGE LIE!!! > > Of course, you're no dobt one of those people who claims caveat emptor". > Well, when you SELL crap by making TOTALLY BOGUS CLAIMS, that amounts to > FRAUD! > > Of course every user has the right to do what they want to their computer. > This discussion isn't about that. It's about whether OneCare Registry > Cleaner is bogus, dangerous crap or not. It is. > >> 4) To utilize your argument: >> Russinovich skill levels do not match >> those of the software engineers that >> created the One Care system. > > ROTFLMAO!!!!! THAT is a TOTAL load of BS! Those OneCare programmers don't > even come close to the skill levels of most of the rest of Microsoft's > programmers, let alone those of Russinovich. > >> In fact if Russinovich believed the >> registry should be left alone, he >> should not have created a utility >> to defrag the registry hive. > > You just can't help showing how stupid youu are, can you? Russinovich says > nothing in teh referenced articles about defragmenting the Registry, he > only > speaks of "cleaning" the Resistry. Where does your stupidity enter into > it? > Where you can't tell the difference between those two entirely different > topics. > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://grystmill.com > > >> "Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message >> news:eIR6gk7$IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:Xns9AFBA4C0257DAHHI2948AJD832@69.16.185.247... >>> >>>> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in >>>> news:ft5k94t4g7bsodt1m2qgsm923lhq8s4hn1@4ax.com: >>>> >>>>> On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:15:01 -0700, Fez <Fez@discussions.microsoft.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi >>>>>> >>>>>> My XP machinces are running slower then usual. I intalled XP 6 months >>>>>> ago and now users are complaining that their machines are working >>>>>> slower then normal. I reinstalled the Win XP on one of the computer >>>>>> and this computer is working normally. We have not made any changes >>>>>> on our network and we have not installed any new software on the >>>>>> client computers. These machines are completely clean. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> How do you know that? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Has any one encoutered this kind of problem? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> There are very problems that are unique to a single user. I've never >>>>> personally experienced it on any of my XP machines, though. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Does XP become slower over the time? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> No. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Do we need to reinstall it after some time? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> No. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Secondly, Can anyone recommend good registry cleaner and system >>>>>> cleaner software to tune up my xp machine? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> There is no such thing as a "good registry cleaner" or good "system >>>>> cleaner software." Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. >>>>> Cleaning of the registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the >>>>> registry alone and don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many >>>>> people think, and what vendors of registry cleaning software try to >>>>> convince you of, having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt >>>>> you. >>>> >>>> http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm >>>> >>>> Seems MS disagrees.. >>> >>> >>> Microsoft is a company made up of many thousands of different people, >>> with different skill levels, different strengths, different weaknesses, >>> and different responsibilities. They certainly don't all have the same >>> views on everything. Those people with responsibility for marketing of >>> software may disagree, because their interest is selling you software >>> that does this, but Mark Russinovich, one of the most respected >>> technical >>> names at Microsoft, happens to agree that registry cleaners should *not* >>> be used. >>> >>> I'm not using my home computer at the moment, and don't have a link >>> handy >>> to the page in which Russinovich talks about this subject, but I hope >>> someone else here will post it.
Guest db.·.. > Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 Re: XP terhune, you should simply go back into your little trailer and stop being a bully. -- db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:%233AuH$9$IHA.5192@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >" db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message >news:ujTYCg8$IHA.2072@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> 1) Microsoft is the absolute >> source of information pertaining >> to windows. all others is secondary. > > That's a total crock, Idiot. > >> 2) their registry cleaner is a free >> online safety scanner, therefore >> there is no marketing or selling. > > Here is is in words of two sylables, max, so maybe you'll understand Idiot: > Free Windows tools equals "good will", equals more sales equals more money. Got it? > >> 3) the fact is that the registry can be >> cleaned and defrag'd. therefore, it >> can be done at the discretion and >> convenience of each windows user. > > Fact is that they are sold (or given away for reasons selfless and not at all selfless) as ways for "AVERAGE USERS" to "tune up or > fix their PCs. Fact is, they do nothing of the sort. It's a HUGE LIE!!! > > Of course, you're no dobt one of those people who claims caveat emptor". Well, when you SELL crap by making TOTALLY BOGUS CLAIMS, > that amounts to FRAUD! > > Of course every user has the right to do what they want to their computer. This discussion isn't about that. It's about whether > OneCare Registry Cleaner is bogus, dangerous crap or not. It is. > >> 4) To utilize your argument: >> Russinovich skill levels do not match >> those of the software engineers that >> created the One Care system. > > ROTFLMAO!!!!! THAT is a TOTAL load of BS! Those OneCare programmers don't even come close to the skill levels of most of the rest > of Microsoft's programmers, let alone those of Russinovich. > >> In fact if Russinovich believed the >> registry should be left alone, he >> should not have created a utility >> to defrag the registry hive. > > You just can't help showing how stupid youu are, can you? Russinovich says nothing in teh referenced articles about defragmenting > the Registry, he only speaks of "cleaning" the Resistry. Where does your stupidity enter into it? Where you can't tell the > difference between those two entirely different topics. > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://grystmill.com > > >> "Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message news:eIR6gk7$IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message news:Xns9AFBA4C0257DAHHI2948AJD832@69.16.185.247... >>> >>>> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in >>>> news:ft5k94t4g7bsodt1m2qgsm923lhq8s4hn1@4ax.com: >>>> >>>>> On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:15:01 -0700, Fez <Fez@discussions.microsoft.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi >>>>>> >>>>>> My XP machinces are running slower then usual. I intalled XP 6 months >>>>>> ago and now users are complaining that their machines are working >>>>>> slower then normal. I reinstalled the Win XP on one of the computer >>>>>> and this computer is working normally. We have not made any changes >>>>>> on our network and we have not installed any new software on the >>>>>> client computers. These machines are completely clean. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> How do you know that? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Has any one encoutered this kind of problem? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> There are very problems that are unique to a single user. I've never >>>>> personally experienced it on any of my XP machines, though. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Does XP become slower over the time? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> No. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Do we need to reinstall it after some time? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> No. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Secondly, Can anyone recommend good registry cleaner and system >>>>>> cleaner software to tune up my xp machine? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> There is no such thing as a "good registry cleaner" or good "system >>>>> cleaner software." Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. >>>>> Cleaning of the registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the >>>>> registry alone and don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many >>>>> people think, and what vendors of registry cleaning software try to >>>>> convince you of, having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt >>>>> you. >>>> >>>> http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm >>>> >>>> Seems MS disagrees.. >>> >>> >>> Microsoft is a company made up of many thousands of different people, with different skill levels, different strengths, >>> different weaknesses, and different responsibilities. They certainly don't all have the same views on everything. Those people >>> with responsibility for marketing of software may disagree, because their interest is selling you software that does this, but >>> Mark Russinovich, one of the most respected technical names at Microsoft, happens to agree that registry cleaners should *not* >>> be used. >>> >>> I'm not using my home computer at the moment, and don't have a link handy to the page in which Russinovich talks about this >>> subject, but I hope someone else here will post it. >>> >>> >> > >
Guest db.·.. > Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 Re: XP Mr. Gary S. Terhune Primary Profile: Back in the winter of '99, I got snowed in, trapped in my tiny travel trailer. So I was playing around a lot with Windows 98, tearing it apart and then rebuilding it. I found IE5 beta and installed it, then reinstalled it, reinstalled the whole system, etc., etc. Finally, I had it down to two problems, so I went looking for the answers. Found the IE5 beta newsgroup, asked my questions, waited 20 minutes for the answers (good ones), and while I waited, I answered a few others. Well, I was hooked. Made the Win98 groups my home and I've lived there ever since, though I now visit almost all Windows groups except Vista. ----------- based on your unprofessionalism it is not within you to uphold the standards here: https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpintro many of us have long been involved with computers and programming by the time you began playing with win98. your disrespectfullness is not appreciated. -- db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:%233AuH$9$IHA.5192@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >" db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> >wrote in message >news:ujTYCg8$IHA.2072@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> 1) Microsoft is the absolute >> source of information pertaining >> to windows. all others is secondary. > > That's a total crock, Idiot. > >> 2) their registry cleaner is a free >> online safety scanner, therefore >> there is no marketing or selling. > > Here is is in words of two sylables, max, so maybe you'll understand > Idiot: > Free Windows tools equals "good will", equals more sales equals more > money. Got it? > >> 3) the fact is that the registry can be >> cleaned and defrag'd. therefore, it >> can be done at the discretion and >> convenience of each windows user. > > Fact is that they are sold (or given away for reasons selfless and not > at all selfless) as ways for "AVERAGE USERS" to "tune up or > fix their PCs. Fact is, they do nothing of the sort. It's a HUGE > LIE!!! > > Of course, you're no dobt one of those people who claims caveat > emptor". Well, when you SELL crap by making TOTALLY BOGUS CLAIMS, > that amounts to FRAUD! > > Of course every user has the right to do what they want to their > computer. This discussion isn't about that. It's about whether > OneCare Registry Cleaner is bogus, dangerous crap or not. It is. > >> 4) To utilize your argument: >> Russinovich skill levels do not match >> those of the software engineers that >> created the One Care system. > > ROTFLMAO!!!!! THAT is a TOTAL load of BS! Those OneCare programmers > don't even come close to the skill levels of most of the rest > of Microsoft's programmers, let alone those of Russinovich. > >> In fact if Russinovich believed the >> registry should be left alone, he >> should not have created a utility >> to defrag the registry hive. > > You just can't help showing how stupid youu are, can you? Russinovich > says nothing in teh referenced articles about defragmenting > the Registry, he only speaks of "cleaning" the Resistry. Where does > your stupidity enter into it? Where you can't tell the > difference between those two entirely different topics. > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://grystmill.com > > >> "Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message >> news:eIR6gk7$IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:Xns9AFBA4C0257DAHHI2948AJD832@69.16.185.247... >>> >>>> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in >>>> news:ft5k94t4g7bsodt1m2qgsm923lhq8s4hn1@4ax.com: >>>> >>>>> On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:15:01 -0700, Fez >>>>> <Fez@discussions.microsoft.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi >>>>>> >>>>>> My XP machinces are running slower then usual. I intalled XP 6 >>>>>> months >>>>>> ago and now users are complaining that their machines are working >>>>>> slower then normal. I reinstalled the Win XP on one of the >>>>>> computer >>>>>> and this computer is working normally. We have not made any >>>>>> changes >>>>>> on our network and we have not installed any new software on the >>>>>> client computers. These machines are completely clean. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> How do you know that? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Has any one encoutered this kind of problem? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> There are very problems that are unique to a single user. I've >>>>> never >>>>> personally experienced it on any of my XP machines, though. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Does XP become slower over the time? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> No. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Do we need to reinstall it after some time? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> No. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Secondly, Can anyone recommend good registry cleaner and system >>>>>> cleaner software to tune up my xp machine? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> There is no such thing as a "good registry cleaner" or good >>>>> "system >>>>> cleaner software." Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. >>>>> Cleaning of the registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the >>>>> registry alone and don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what >>>>> many >>>>> people think, and what vendors of registry cleaning software try >>>>> to >>>>> convince you of, having unused registry entries doesn't really >>>>> hurt >>>>> you. >>>> >>>> http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm >>>> >>>> Seems MS disagrees.. >>> >>> >>> Microsoft is a company made up of many thousands of different >>> people, with different skill levels, different strengths, >>> different weaknesses, and different responsibilities. They certainly >>> don't all have the same views on everything. Those people >>> with responsibility for marketing of software may disagree, because >>> their interest is selling you software that does this, but >>> Mark Russinovich, one of the most respected technical names at >>> Microsoft, happens to agree that registry cleaners should *not* >>> be used. >>> >>> I'm not using my home computer at the moment, and don't have a link >>> handy to the page in which Russinovich talks about this >>> subject, but I hope someone else here will post it. >>> >>> >> > >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 Re: XP LOL!!! Who said I was trying to reason with *him*? I know he's hopelessly ignorant, willfully stupid and a deliberate misleader of innocents. a troll and a total POS besides. I respond for the benefit of those who might, somehow, think he has anything he says is EVER correct (except by pure accident), and that following his advice will greatly increase the chances of ruining your Windows system. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:%23zLgtQ%23$IHA.5192@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Gary, keep in mind you're still trying to reason with a guy who, in > addition to jumping on this (so-alleged by him) "Microsoft-approved, > registry cleaner" bandwagon, also insists that a transformer converts AC > to DC! (and when I pointed it out to him that he was wrong, couldn't, and > wouldn't, ever admit that (due to his inflatable ego) So, what do you > expect? Do you know the definition of insanity? :-) > > Gary S. Terhune wrote: >> " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> >> wrote >> in message news:ujTYCg8$IHA.2072@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> 1) Microsoft is the absolute >>> source of information pertaining >>> to windows. all others is secondary. >> >> That's a total crock, Idiot. >> >>> 2) their registry cleaner is a free >>> online safety scanner, therefore >>> there is no marketing or selling. >> >> Here is is in words of two sylables, max, so maybe you'll understand >> Idiot: >> Free Windows tools equals "good will", equals more sales equals more >> money. >> Got it? >> >>> 3) the fact is that the registry can be >>> cleaned and defrag'd. therefore, it >>> can be done at the discretion and >>> convenience of each windows user. >> >> Fact is that they are sold (or given away for reasons selfless and not at >> all selfless) as ways for "AVERAGE USERS" to "tune up or fix their PCs. >> Fact >> is, they do nothing of the sort. It's a HUGE LIE!!! >> >> Of course, you're no dobt one of those people who claims caveat emptor". >> Well, when you SELL crap by making TOTALLY BOGUS CLAIMS, that amounts to >> FRAUD! >> >> Of course every user has the right to do what they want to their >> computer. >> This discussion isn't about that. It's about whether OneCare Registry >> Cleaner is bogus, dangerous crap or not. It is. >> >>> 4) To utilize your argument: >>> Russinovich skill levels do not match >>> those of the software engineers that >>> created the One Care system. >> >> ROTFLMAO!!!!! THAT is a TOTAL load of BS! Those OneCare programmers don't >> even come close to the skill levels of most of the rest of Microsoft's >> programmers, let alone those of Russinovich. >> >>> In fact if Russinovich believed the >>> registry should be left alone, he >>> should not have created a utility >>> to defrag the registry hive. >> >> You just can't help showing how stupid youu are, can you? Russinovich >> says >> nothing in teh referenced articles about defragmenting the Registry, he >> only >> speaks of "cleaning" the Resistry. Where does your stupidity enter into >> it? >> Where you can't tell the difference between those two entirely different >> topics. >> >> -- >> Gary S. Terhune >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> http://grystmill.com >> >> >>> "Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message >>> news:eIR6gk7$IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:Xns9AFBA4C0257DAHHI2948AJD832@69.16.185.247... >>>> >>>>> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in >>>>> news:ft5k94t4g7bsodt1m2qgsm923lhq8s4hn1@4ax.com: >>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:15:01 -0700, Fez >>>>>> <Fez@discussions.microsoft.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My XP machinces are running slower then usual. I intalled XP 6 >>>>>>> months >>>>>>> ago and now users are complaining that their machines are working >>>>>>> slower then normal. I reinstalled the Win XP on one of the computer >>>>>>> and this computer is working normally. We have not made any changes >>>>>>> on our network and we have not installed any new software on the >>>>>>> client computers. These machines are completely clean. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> How do you know that? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Has any one encoutered this kind of problem? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> There are very problems that are unique to a single user. I've never >>>>>> personally experienced it on any of my XP machines, though. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Does XP become slower over the time? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> No. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Do we need to reinstall it after some time? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> No. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Secondly, Can anyone recommend good registry cleaner and system >>>>>>> cleaner software to tune up my xp machine? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> There is no such thing as a "good registry cleaner" or good "system >>>>>> cleaner software." Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. >>>>>> Cleaning of the registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the >>>>>> registry alone and don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many >>>>>> people think, and what vendors of registry cleaning software try to >>>>>> convince you of, having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt >>>>>> you. >>>>> >>>>> http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm >>>>> >>>>> Seems MS disagrees.. >>>> >>>> >>>> Microsoft is a company made up of many thousands of different people, >>>> with different skill levels, different strengths, different weaknesses, >>>> and different responsibilities. They certainly don't all have the same >>>> views on everything. Those people with responsibility for marketing of >>>> software may disagree, because their interest is selling you software >>>> that does this, but Mark Russinovich, one of the most respected >>>> technical >>>> names at Microsoft, happens to agree that registry cleaners should >>>> *not* >>>> be used. >>>> >>>> I'm not using my home computer at the moment, and don't have a link >>>> handy >>>> to the page in which Russinovich talks about this subject, but I hope >>>> someone else here will post it. > >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 Re: XP Awwww... poor w'il baby feeling picked on? Where's your Mommy? Oh, she's right there under your butt? Well, tell her for me that she's a totally lousy mother to have raised such a POS as yourself. I'll bully you and anyone else who deserves it all I want to. For the betterment of humankind, if for no other reason. Tiny pieces of dung should rot into the dirt, like they're supposed to, not pretend to know anything at all about computers, Windows, Microsoft, the MVP Program or anything else, and especially not presume to think they know the slightest thing about me. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:uTjB6Z%23$IHA.4528@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > terhune, you should > simply go back into > your little trailer and > stop being a bully. > > -- > > db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> > > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > news:%233AuH$9$IHA.5192@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>" db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> >>wrote in message news:ujTYCg8$IHA.2072@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> 1) Microsoft is the absolute >>> source of information pertaining >>> to windows. all others is secondary. >> >> That's a total crock, Idiot. >> >>> 2) their registry cleaner is a free >>> online safety scanner, therefore >>> there is no marketing or selling. >> >> Here is is in words of two sylables, max, so maybe you'll understand >> Idiot: >> Free Windows tools equals "good will", equals more sales equals more >> money. Got it? >> >>> 3) the fact is that the registry can be >>> cleaned and defrag'd. therefore, it >>> can be done at the discretion and >>> convenience of each windows user. >> >> Fact is that they are sold (or given away for reasons selfless and not at >> all selfless) as ways for "AVERAGE USERS" to "tune up or fix their PCs. >> Fact is, they do nothing of the sort. It's a HUGE LIE!!! >> >> Of course, you're no dobt one of those people who claims caveat emptor". >> Well, when you SELL crap by making TOTALLY BOGUS CLAIMS, that amounts to >> FRAUD! >> >> Of course every user has the right to do what they want to their >> computer. This discussion isn't about that. It's about whether OneCare >> Registry Cleaner is bogus, dangerous crap or not. It is. >> >>> 4) To utilize your argument: >>> Russinovich skill levels do not match >>> those of the software engineers that >>> created the One Care system. >> >> ROTFLMAO!!!!! THAT is a TOTAL load of BS! Those OneCare programmers don't >> even come close to the skill levels of most of the rest of Microsoft's >> programmers, let alone those of Russinovich. >> >>> In fact if Russinovich believed the >>> registry should be left alone, he >>> should not have created a utility >>> to defrag the registry hive. >> >> You just can't help showing how stupid youu are, can you? Russinovich >> says nothing in teh referenced articles about defragmenting the Registry, >> he only speaks of "cleaning" the Resistry. Where does your stupidity >> enter into it? Where you can't tell the difference between those two >> entirely different topics. >> >> -- >> Gary S. Terhune >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> http://grystmill.com >> >> >>> "Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message >>> news:eIR6gk7$IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:Xns9AFBA4C0257DAHHI2948AJD832@69.16.185.247... >>>> >>>>> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in >>>>> news:ft5k94t4g7bsodt1m2qgsm923lhq8s4hn1@4ax.com: >>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:15:01 -0700, Fez >>>>>> <Fez@discussions.microsoft.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My XP machinces are running slower then usual. I intalled XP 6 >>>>>>> months >>>>>>> ago and now users are complaining that their machines are working >>>>>>> slower then normal. I reinstalled the Win XP on one of the computer >>>>>>> and this computer is working normally. We have not made any changes >>>>>>> on our network and we have not installed any new software on the >>>>>>> client computers. These machines are completely clean. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> How do you know that? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Has any one encoutered this kind of problem? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> There are very problems that are unique to a single user. I've never >>>>>> personally experienced it on any of my XP machines, though. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Does XP become slower over the time? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> No. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Do we need to reinstall it after some time? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> No. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Secondly, Can anyone recommend good registry cleaner and system >>>>>>> cleaner software to tune up my xp machine? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> There is no such thing as a "good registry cleaner" or good "system >>>>>> cleaner software." Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. >>>>>> Cleaning of the registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the >>>>>> registry alone and don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many >>>>>> people think, and what vendors of registry cleaning software try to >>>>>> convince you of, having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt >>>>>> you. >>>>> >>>>> http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm >>>>> >>>>> Seems MS disagrees.. >>>> >>>> >>>> Microsoft is a company made up of many thousands of different people, >>>> with different skill levels, different strengths, different weaknesses, >>>> and different responsibilities. They certainly don't all have the same >>>> views on everything. Those people with responsibility for marketing of >>>> software may disagree, because their interest is selling you software >>>> that does this, but Mark Russinovich, one of the most respected >>>> technical names at Microsoft, happens to agree that registry cleaners >>>> should *not* be used. >>>> >>>> I'm not using my home computer at the moment, and don't have a link >>>> handy to the page in which Russinovich talks about this subject, but I >>>> hope someone else here will post it. >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 Re: XP ROFL! And you think that's still where I live. IDIOT! You can't even do a decent job of simple research. Of course, you know that others ARE capable of such research, which is why you hide behind one of the stupidest sigs ever invented. Otherwise, it's quite likely that somebody you piss off will come to your place and make it personal. (No, not me. If I were that kind of person, you'd be WAY down the list.)Chickensquirt, that's what you are. ROFLMAO! You still don't know anything about the MVP Program, really. Because you lack the faculty called "critical thinking". Blame your mother for that one, too. But there's no laughing about total losers like you claiming to know anything about computers. That's a crime, pure an simple, one called "fraud", just to start with, and much worse depending on who you manage to convince that you know anything at all, much less about computers. As for your link, that's REALLY HILARIOUS, <BG>, seeing as I just got an email from the MVP Program stating exactly the opposite. Just what part of those three paragraphs do you think I don't live up to? Quote them here. Or did you fail "quoting text" in freshman English (or did you even go to school?) -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:O5oULn%23$IHA.1016@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Mr. Gary S. Terhune > Primary Profile: > Back in the winter of '99, I got snowed in, trapped in my tiny > travel trailer. So I was playing around a lot with Windows 98, tearing > it apart and then rebuilding it. I found IE5 beta and installed it, then > reinstalled it, reinstalled the whole system, etc., etc. Finally, I had > it down to two problems, so I went looking for the answers. Found the > IE5 beta newsgroup, asked my questions, waited 20 minutes for the > answers (good ones), and while I waited, I answered a few others. Well, > I was hooked. Made the Win98 groups my home and I've lived there ever > since, though I now visit almost all Windows groups except Vista. > > > > ----------- > based on your unprofessionalism > it is not within you to uphold the > standards here: > > https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpintro > > many of us have long been > involved with computers > and programming by the > time you began playing > with win98. > > your disrespectfullness > is not appreciated. > > > -- > > db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > news:%233AuH$9$IHA.5192@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>" db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> >>wrote in message >>news:ujTYCg8$IHA.2072@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> 1) Microsoft is the absolute >>> source of information pertaining >>> to windows. all others is secondary. >> >> That's a total crock, Idiot. >> >>> 2) their registry cleaner is a free >>> online safety scanner, therefore >>> there is no marketing or selling. >> >> Here is is in words of two sylables, max, so maybe you'll understand >> Idiot: >> Free Windows tools equals "good will", equals more sales equals more >> money. Got it? >> >>> 3) the fact is that the registry can be >>> cleaned and defrag'd. therefore, it >>> can be done at the discretion and >>> convenience of each windows user. >> >> Fact is that they are sold (or given away for reasons selfless and not >> at all selfless) as ways for "AVERAGE USERS" to "tune up or >> fix their PCs. Fact is, they do nothing of the sort. It's a HUGE >> LIE!!! >> >> Of course, you're no dobt one of those people who claims caveat >> emptor". Well, when you SELL crap by making TOTALLY BOGUS CLAIMS, >> that amounts to FRAUD! >> >> Of course every user has the right to do what they want to their >> computer. This discussion isn't about that. It's about whether >> OneCare Registry Cleaner is bogus, dangerous crap or not. It is. >> >>> 4) To utilize your argument: >>> Russinovich skill levels do not match >>> those of the software engineers that >>> created the One Care system. >> >> ROTFLMAO!!!!! THAT is a TOTAL load of BS! Those OneCare programmers >> don't even come close to the skill levels of most of the rest >> of Microsoft's programmers, let alone those of Russinovich. >> >>> In fact if Russinovich believed the >>> registry should be left alone, he >>> should not have created a utility >>> to defrag the registry hive. >> >> You just can't help showing how stupid youu are, can you? Russinovich >> says nothing in teh referenced articles about defragmenting >> the Registry, he only speaks of "cleaning" the Resistry. Where does >> your stupidity enter into it? Where you can't tell the >> difference between those two entirely different topics. >> >> -- >> Gary S. Terhune >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> http://grystmill.com >> >> >>> "Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message >>> news:eIR6gk7$IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:Xns9AFBA4C0257DAHHI2948AJD832@69.16.185.247... >>>> >>>>> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in >>>>> news:ft5k94t4g7bsodt1m2qgsm923lhq8s4hn1@4ax.com: >>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:15:01 -0700, Fez >>>>>> <Fez@discussions.microsoft.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My XP machinces are running slower then usual. I intalled XP 6 >>>>>>> months >>>>>>> ago and now users are complaining that their machines are working >>>>>>> slower then normal. I reinstalled the Win XP on one of the >>>>>>> computer >>>>>>> and this computer is working normally. We have not made any >>>>>>> changes >>>>>>> on our network and we have not installed any new software on the >>>>>>> client computers. These machines are completely clean. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> How do you know that? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Has any one encoutered this kind of problem? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> There are very problems that are unique to a single user. I've >>>>>> never >>>>>> personally experienced it on any of my XP machines, though. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Does XP become slower over the time? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> No. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Do we need to reinstall it after some time? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> No. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Secondly, Can anyone recommend good registry cleaner and system >>>>>>> cleaner software to tune up my xp machine? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> There is no such thing as a "good registry cleaner" or good >>>>>> "system >>>>>> cleaner software." Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. >>>>>> Cleaning of the registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the >>>>>> registry alone and don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what >>>>>> many >>>>>> people think, and what vendors of registry cleaning software try >>>>>> to >>>>>> convince you of, having unused registry entries doesn't really >>>>>> hurt >>>>>> you. >>>>> >>>>> http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm >>>>> >>>>> Seems MS disagrees.. >>>> >>>> >>>> Microsoft is a company made up of many thousands of different >>>> people, with different skill levels, different strengths, >>>> different weaknesses, and different responsibilities. They certainly >>>> don't all have the same views on everything. Those people >>>> with responsibility for marketing of software may disagree, because >>>> their interest is selling you software that does this, but >>>> Mark Russinovich, one of the most respected technical names at >>>> Microsoft, happens to agree that registry cleaners should *not* >>>> be used. >>>> >>>> I'm not using my home computer at the moment, and don't have a link >>>> handy to the page in which Russinovich talks about this >>>> subject, but I hope someone else here will post it. >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >
Guest db.·.. > Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 Re: Gary Terhune, BAD MVP, BAD MICROSOFT REPRESENTATIVE Re: Gary Terhune, BAD MVP, BAD MICROSOFT REPRESENTATIVE it's no skin for me. i call you a bully simply because i cannot think of an appropriate adjective for you. certainly, you are not an mvp, though you are pretending to be one. further, your verbal abuse and inappropriate postings are not in accordance to the expectations as here: Microsoft MVPs: Microsoft MVPs (Most Valuable Professionals) volunteer technical answers and expertise in many Microsoft Community Web sites. Microsoft MVPs come from a wide range of backgrounds and professions. All share a willingness to give their time, expertise, and advice to enhance the technical skills of others. MVPs are not Microsoft employees and Microsoft has no expectations of MVPs beyond the expectations of courtesy, professionalism, and adherence to the Community rules that we ask of all Microsoft community members. For more information on the MVP program and how you can become an MVP, see http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/. so i posted your mug shot and i think it speaks volumes about you. ----------------- perhaps the disdain you have for yourself is what is being leeched out onto these newsgroups: https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=AE162829-C413-4E59-8C6F-9415EEB3201A clearly, the below does not apply to you: https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpintro -- db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:eptr30%23$IHA.4148@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Awwww... poor w'il baby feeling picked on? Where's your Mommy? Oh, she's right there under your butt? Well, tell her for me that > she's a totally lousy mother to have raised such a POS as yourself. > > I'll bully you and anyone else who deserves it all I want to. For the betterment of humankind, if for no other reason. Tiny pieces > of dung should rot into the dirt, like they're supposed to, not pretend to know anything at all about computers, Windows, > Microsoft, the MVP Program or anything else, and especially not presume to think they know the slightest thing about me. > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://grystmill.com > > " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:uTjB6Z%23$IHA.4528@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> terhune, you should >> simply go back into >> your little trailer and >> stop being a bully. >> >> -- >> >> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> >> >> >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:%233AuH$9$IHA.5192@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>" db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>news:ujTYCg8$IHA.2072@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>> 1) Microsoft is the absolute >>>> source of information pertaining >>>> to windows. all others is secondary. >>> >>> That's a total crock, Idiot. >>> >>>> 2) their registry cleaner is a free >>>> online safety scanner, therefore >>>> there is no marketing or selling. >>> >>> Here is is in words of two sylables, max, so maybe you'll understand Idiot: >>> Free Windows tools equals "good will", equals more sales equals more money. Got it? >>> >>>> 3) the fact is that the registry can be >>>> cleaned and defrag'd. therefore, it >>>> can be done at the discretion and >>>> convenience of each windows user. >>> >>> Fact is that they are sold (or given away for reasons selfless and not at all selfless) as ways for "AVERAGE USERS" to "tune up >>> or fix their PCs. Fact is, they do nothing of the sort. It's a HUGE LIE!!! >>> >>> Of course, you're no dobt one of those people who claims caveat emptor". Well, when you SELL crap by making TOTALLY BOGUS >>> CLAIMS, that amounts to FRAUD! >>> >>> Of course every user has the right to do what they want to their computer. This discussion isn't about that. It's about whether >>> OneCare Registry Cleaner is bogus, dangerous crap or not. It is. >>> >>>> 4) To utilize your argument: >>>> Russinovich skill levels do not match >>>> those of the software engineers that >>>> created the One Care system. >>> >>> ROTFLMAO!!!!! THAT is a TOTAL load of BS! Those OneCare programmers don't even come close to the skill levels of most of the >>> rest of Microsoft's programmers, let alone those of Russinovich. >>> >>>> In fact if Russinovich believed the >>>> registry should be left alone, he >>>> should not have created a utility >>>> to defrag the registry hive. >>> >>> You just can't help showing how stupid youu are, can you? Russinovich says nothing in teh referenced articles about >>> defragmenting the Registry, he only speaks of "cleaning" the Resistry. Where does your stupidity enter into it? Where you can't >>> tell the difference between those two entirely different topics. >>> >>> -- >>> Gary S. Terhune >>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>> http://grystmill.com >>> >>> >>>> "Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message news:eIR6gk7$IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>> "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message news:Xns9AFBA4C0257DAHHI2948AJD832@69.16.185.247... >>>>> >>>>>> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in >>>>>> news:ft5k94t4g7bsodt1m2qgsm923lhq8s4hn1@4ax.com: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:15:01 -0700, Fez <Fez@discussions.microsoft.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My XP machinces are running slower then usual. I intalled XP 6 months >>>>>>>> ago and now users are complaining that their machines are working >>>>>>>> slower then normal. I reinstalled the Win XP on one of the computer >>>>>>>> and this computer is working normally. We have not made any changes >>>>>>>> on our network and we have not installed any new software on the >>>>>>>> client computers. These machines are completely clean. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How do you know that? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Has any one encoutered this kind of problem? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There are very problems that are unique to a single user. I've never >>>>>>> personally experienced it on any of my XP machines, though. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Does XP become slower over the time? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Do we need to reinstall it after some time? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Secondly, Can anyone recommend good registry cleaner and system >>>>>>>> cleaner software to tune up my xp machine? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There is no such thing as a "good registry cleaner" or good "system >>>>>>> cleaner software." Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. >>>>>>> Cleaning of the registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the >>>>>>> registry alone and don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many >>>>>>> people think, and what vendors of registry cleaning software try to >>>>>>> convince you of, having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt >>>>>>> you. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm >>>>>> >>>>>> Seems MS disagrees.. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Microsoft is a company made up of many thousands of different people, with different skill levels, different strengths, >>>>> different weaknesses, and different responsibilities. They certainly don't all have the same views on everything. Those people >>>>> with responsibility for marketing of software may disagree, because their interest is selling you software that does this, but >>>>> Mark Russinovich, one of the most respected technical names at Microsoft, happens to agree that registry cleaners should *not* >>>>> be used. >>>>> >>>>> I'm not using my home computer at the moment, and don't have a link handy to the page in which Russinovich talks about this >>>>> subject, but I hope someone else here will post it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > >
Guest db.·.. > Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 Re: XP it wouldn't be surprising if you lied; you made your bed. -- db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:eo8vH9%23$IHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > ROFL! And you thinku that's still where I live. IDIOT! You can't even do a decent job of simple research. Of course, you know > that others ARE capable of such research, which is why you hide behind one of the stupidest sigs ever invented. Otherwise, it's > quite likely that somebody you piss off will come to your place and make it personal. (No, not me. If I were that kind of person, > you'd be WAY down the list.)Chickensquirt, that's what you are. > > ROFLMAO! You still don't know anything about the MVP Program, really. Because you lack the faculty called "critical thinking". > Blame your mother for that one, too. > > But there's no laughing about total losers like you claiming to know anything about computers. That's a crime, pure an simple, one > called "fraud", just to start with, and much worse depending on who you manage to convince that you know anything at all, much > less about computers. > > As for your link, that's REALLY HILARIOUS, <BG>, seeing as I just got an email from the MVP Program stating exactly the opposite. > Just what part of those three paragraphs do you think I don't live up to? Quote them here. Or did you fail "quoting text" in > freshman English (or did you even go to school?) > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://grystmill.com > > " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:O5oULn%23$IHA.1016@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Mr. Gary S. Terhune >> Primary Profile: >> Back in the winter of '99, I got snowed in, trapped in my tiny >> travel trailer. So I was playing around a lot with Windows 98, tearing >> it apart and then rebuilding it. I found IE5 beta and installed it, then >> reinstalled it, reinstalled the whole system, etc., etc. Finally, I had >> it down to two problems, so I went looking for the answers. Found the >> IE5 beta newsgroup, asked my questions, waited 20 minutes for the >> answers (good ones), and while I waited, I answered a few others. Well, >> I was hooked. Made the Win98 groups my home and I've lived there ever >> since, though I now visit almost all Windows groups except Vista. >> >> >> >> ----------- >> based on your unprofessionalism >> it is not within you to uphold the >> standards here: >> >> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpintro >> >> many of us have long been >> involved with computers >> and programming by the >> time you began playing >> with win98. >> >> your disrespectfullness >> is not appreciated. >> >> >> -- >> >> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> >> >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >> news:%233AuH$9$IHA.5192@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>" db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> >>>wrote in message >>>news:ujTYCg8$IHA.2072@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>> 1) Microsoft is the absolute >>>> source of information pertaining >>>> to windows. all others is secondary. >>> >>> That's a total crock, Idiot. >>> >>>> 2) their registry cleaner is a free >>>> online safety scanner, therefore >>>> there is no marketing or selling. >>> >>> Here is is in words of two sylables, max, so maybe you'll understand >>> Idiot: >>> Free Windows tools equals "good will", equals more sales equals more >>> money. Got it? >>> >>>> 3) the fact is that the registry can be >>>> cleaned and defrag'd. therefore, it >>>> can be done at the discretion and >>>> convenience of each windows user. >>> >>> Fact is that they are sold (or given away for reasons selfless and not >>> at all selfless) as ways for "AVERAGE USERS" to "tune up or >>> fix their PCs. Fact is, they do nothing of the sort. It's a HUGE >>> LIE!!! >>> >>> Of course, you're no dobt one of those people who claims caveat >>> emptor". Well, when you SELL crap by making TOTALLY BOGUS CLAIMS, >>> that amounts to FRAUD! >>> >>> Of course every user has the right to do what they want to their >>> computer. This discussion isn't about that. It's about whether >>> OneCare Registry Cleaner is bogus, dangerous crap or not. It is. >>> >>>> 4) To utilize your argument: >>>> Russinovich skill levels do not match >>>> those of the software engineers that >>>> created the One Care system. >>> >>> ROTFLMAO!!!!! THAT is a TOTAL load of BS! Those OneCare programmers >>> don't even come close to the skill levels of most of the rest >>> of Microsoft's programmers, let alone those of Russinovich. >>> >>>> In fact if Russinovich believed the >>>> registry should be left alone, he >>>> should not have created a utility >>>> to defrag the registry hive. >>> >>> You just can't help showing how stupid youu are, can you? Russinovich >>> says nothing in teh referenced articles about defragmenting >>> the Registry, he only speaks of "cleaning" the Resistry. Where does >>> your stupidity enter into it? Where you can't tell the >>> difference between those two entirely different topics. >>> >>> -- >>> Gary S. Terhune >>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>> http://grystmill.com >>> >>> >>>> "Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message >>>> news:eIR6gk7$IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>> "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:Xns9AFBA4C0257DAHHI2948AJD832@69.16.185.247... >>>>> >>>>>> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in >>>>>> news:ft5k94t4g7bsodt1m2qgsm923lhq8s4hn1@4ax.com: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:15:01 -0700, Fez >>>>>>> <Fez@discussions.microsoft.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My XP machinces are running slower then usual. I intalled XP 6 >>>>>>>> months >>>>>>>> ago and now users are complaining that their machines are working >>>>>>>> slower then normal. I reinstalled the Win XP on one of the >>>>>>>> computer >>>>>>>> and this computer is working normally. We have not made any >>>>>>>> changes >>>>>>>> on our network and we have not installed any new software on the >>>>>>>> client computers. These machines are completely clean. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How do you know that? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Has any one encoutered this kind of problem? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There are very problems that are unique to a single user. I've >>>>>>> never >>>>>>> personally experienced it on any of my XP machines, though. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Does XP become slower over the time? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Do we need to reinstall it after some time? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Secondly, Can anyone recommend good registry cleaner and system >>>>>>>> cleaner software to tune up my xp machine? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There is no such thing as a "good registry cleaner" or good >>>>>>> "system >>>>>>> cleaner software." Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. >>>>>>> Cleaning of the registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the >>>>>>> registry alone and don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what >>>>>>> many >>>>>>> people think, and what vendors of registry cleaning software try >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> convince you of, having unused registry entries doesn't really >>>>>>> hurt >>>>>>> you. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm >>>>>> >>>>>> Seems MS disagrees.. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Microsoft is a company made up of many thousands of different >>>>> people, with different skill levels, different strengths, >>>>> different weaknesses, and different responsibilities. They certainly >>>>> don't all have the same views on everything. Those people >>>>> with responsibility for marketing of software may disagree, because >>>>> their interest is selling you software that does this, but >>>>> Mark Russinovich, one of the most respected technical names at >>>>> Microsoft, happens to agree that registry cleaners should *not* >>>>> be used. >>>>> >>>>> I'm not using my home computer at the moment, and don't have a link >>>>> handy to the page in which Russinovich talks about this >>>>> subject, but I hope someone else here will post it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 Re: Gary Terhune, BAD MVP, BAD MICROSOFT REPRESENTATIVE Re: Gary Terhune, BAD MVP, BAD MICROSOFT REPRESENTATIVE I can think of lots of appropriate adjectives for me. Alas, without serious munging, which even that I promised to try my best to keep to a minimum (how'm I doin'?), most of them are filtered by MS temporary-help censers. Have I ever pretended otherwise, Oh Wee Dung Ball? Quote some quotes and cite some cites. Let's have a real discussion about it, you stinking weasel. It's kind of OT, but what the heck. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:%23nVazB$$IHA.1180@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > it's no skin for me. > > i call you a bully simply > because i cannot think of an > appropriate adjective for you. > > certainly, you are not an > mvp, though you are pretending > to be one. > > further, your verbal abuse and > inappropriate postings are not > in accordance to the expectations > as here: > > Microsoft MVPs: Microsoft MVPs (Most Valuable Professionals) volunteer > technical answers and expertise in many Microsoft Community Web sites. > Microsoft MVPs come from a wide range of backgrounds and professions. All > share a willingness to give their time, expertise, and advice to enhance > the technical skills of others. MVPs are not Microsoft employees and > Microsoft has no expectations of MVPs beyond the expectations of courtesy, > professionalism, and adherence to the Community rules that we ask of all > Microsoft community members. For more information on the MVP program and > how you can become an MVP, see http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/. > so i posted your mug shot and > i think it speaks volumes about > you. > ----------------- > perhaps the disdain you have > for yourself is what is being > leeched out onto these newsgroups: > > https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=AE162829-C413-4E59-8C6F-9415EEB3201A > > clearly, the below does not > apply to you: > > https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpintro > > > -- > > db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > news:eptr30%23$IHA.4148@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Awwww... poor w'il baby feeling picked on? Where's your Mommy? Oh, she's >> right there under your butt? Well, tell her for me that she's a totally >> lousy mother to have raised such a POS as yourself. >> >> I'll bully you and anyone else who deserves it all I want to. For the >> betterment of humankind, if for no other reason. Tiny pieces of dung >> should rot into the dirt, like they're supposed to, not pretend to know >> anything at all about computers, Windows, Microsoft, the MVP Program or >> anything else, and especially not presume to think they know the >> slightest thing about me. >> >> -- >> Gary S. Terhune >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> http://grystmill.com >> >> " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> >> wrote in message news:uTjB6Z%23$IHA.4528@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> terhune, you should >>> simply go back into >>> your little trailer and >>> stop being a bully. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> >>> >>> >>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >>> news:%233AuH$9$IHA.5192@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>" db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> >>>>wrote in message news:ujTYCg8$IHA.2072@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>> 1) Microsoft is the absolute >>>>> source of information pertaining >>>>> to windows. all others is secondary. >>>> >>>> That's a total crock, Idiot. >>>> >>>>> 2) their registry cleaner is a free >>>>> online safety scanner, therefore >>>>> there is no marketing or selling. >>>> >>>> Here is is in words of two sylables, max, so maybe you'll understand >>>> Idiot: >>>> Free Windows tools equals "good will", equals more sales equals more >>>> money. Got it? >>>> >>>>> 3) the fact is that the registry can be >>>>> cleaned and defrag'd. therefore, it >>>>> can be done at the discretion and >>>>> convenience of each windows user. >>>> >>>> Fact is that they are sold (or given away for reasons selfless and not >>>> at all selfless) as ways for "AVERAGE USERS" to "tune up or fix their >>>> PCs. Fact is, they do nothing of the sort. It's a HUGE LIE!!! >>>> >>>> Of course, you're no dobt one of those people who claims caveat >>>> emptor". Well, when you SELL crap by making TOTALLY BOGUS CLAIMS, that >>>> amounts to FRAUD! >>>> >>>> Of course every user has the right to do what they want to their >>>> computer. This discussion isn't about that. It's about whether OneCare >>>> Registry Cleaner is bogus, dangerous crap or not. It is. >>>> >>>>> 4) To utilize your argument: >>>>> Russinovich skill levels do not match >>>>> those of the software engineers that >>>>> created the One Care system. >>>> >>>> ROTFLMAO!!!!! THAT is a TOTAL load of BS! Those OneCare programmers >>>> don't even come close to the skill levels of most of the rest of >>>> Microsoft's programmers, let alone those of Russinovich. >>>> >>>>> In fact if Russinovich believed the >>>>> registry should be left alone, he >>>>> should not have created a utility >>>>> to defrag the registry hive. >>>> >>>> You just can't help showing how stupid youu are, can you? Russinovich >>>> says nothing in teh referenced articles about defragmenting the >>>> Registry, he only speaks of "cleaning" the Resistry. Where does your >>>> stupidity enter into it? Where you can't tell the difference between >>>> those two entirely different topics. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Gary S. Terhune >>>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>>> http://grystmill.com >>>> >>>> >>>>> "Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message >>>>> news:eIR6gk7$IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>> "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:Xns9AFBA4C0257DAHHI2948AJD832@69.16.185.247... >>>>>> >>>>>>> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in >>>>>>> news:ft5k94t4g7bsodt1m2qgsm923lhq8s4hn1@4ax.com: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:15:01 -0700, Fez >>>>>>>> <Fez@discussions.microsoft.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My XP machinces are running slower then usual. I intalled XP 6 >>>>>>>>> months >>>>>>>>> ago and now users are complaining that their machines are working >>>>>>>>> slower then normal. I reinstalled the Win XP on one of the >>>>>>>>> computer >>>>>>>>> and this computer is working normally. We have not made any >>>>>>>>> changes >>>>>>>>> on our network and we have not installed any new software on the >>>>>>>>> client computers. These machines are completely clean. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> How do you know that? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Has any one encoutered this kind of problem? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There are very problems that are unique to a single user. I've >>>>>>>> never >>>>>>>> personally experienced it on any of my XP machines, though. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Does XP become slower over the time? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Do we need to reinstall it after some time? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Secondly, Can anyone recommend good registry cleaner and system >>>>>>>>> cleaner software to tune up my xp machine? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There is no such thing as a "good registry cleaner" or good "system >>>>>>>> cleaner software." Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. >>>>>>>> Cleaning of the registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the >>>>>>>> registry alone and don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what >>>>>>>> many >>>>>>>> people think, and what vendors of registry cleaning software try to >>>>>>>> convince you of, having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt >>>>>>>> you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Seems MS disagrees.. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Microsoft is a company made up of many thousands of different people, >>>>>> with different skill levels, different strengths, different >>>>>> weaknesses, and different responsibilities. They certainly don't all >>>>>> have the same views on everything. Those people with responsibility >>>>>> for marketing of software may disagree, because their interest is >>>>>> selling you software that does this, but Mark Russinovich, one of the >>>>>> most respected technical names at Microsoft, happens to agree that >>>>>> registry cleaners should *not* be used. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm not using my home computer at the moment, and don't have a link >>>>>> handy to the page in which Russinovich talks about this subject, but >>>>>> I hope someone else here will post it. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 Re: XP I don't lie, weasel. Unless I really must, of course. But in this case I have no reason to. What, to impress you? Certainly not anything that particularly impressed me, just happened to be a handy riposte. Besides, it's probably top secret. I shouldn't even have mentioned it. Hope I fuzzed the edges enough. Think I'll get canned? -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:O7PUWE$$IHA.2072@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > it wouldn't be surprising if > you lied; you made your bed. > -- > > db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> > > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > news:eo8vH9%23$IHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> ROFL! And you thinku that's still where I live. IDIOT! You can't even do >> a decent job of simple research. Of course, you know that others ARE >> capable of such research, which is why you hide behind one of the >> stupidest sigs ever invented. Otherwise, it's quite likely that somebody >> you piss off will come to your place and make it personal. (No, not me. >> If I were that kind of person, you'd be WAY down the list.)Chickensquirt, >> that's what you are. >> >> ROFLMAO! You still don't know anything about the MVP Program, really. >> Because you lack the faculty called "critical thinking". Blame your >> mother for that one, too. >> >> But there's no laughing about total losers like you claiming to know >> anything about computers. That's a crime, pure an simple, one called >> "fraud", just to start with, and much worse depending on who you manage >> to convince that you know anything at all, much less about computers. >> >> As for your link, that's REALLY HILARIOUS, <BG>, seeing as I just got an >> email from the MVP Program stating exactly the opposite. Just what part >> of those three paragraphs do you think I don't live up to? Quote them >> here. Or did you fail "quoting text" in freshman English (or did you even >> go to school?) >> >> -- >> Gary S. Terhune >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> http://grystmill.com >> >> " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> >> wrote in message news:O5oULn%23$IHA.1016@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> Mr. Gary S. Terhune >>> Primary Profile: >>> Back in the winter of '99, I got snowed in, trapped in my tiny >>> travel trailer. So I was playing around a lot with Windows 98, tearing >>> it apart and then rebuilding it. I found IE5 beta and installed it, then >>> reinstalled it, reinstalled the whole system, etc., etc. Finally, I had >>> it down to two problems, so I went looking for the answers. Found the >>> IE5 beta newsgroup, asked my questions, waited 20 minutes for the >>> answers (good ones), and while I waited, I answered a few others. Well, >>> I was hooked. Made the Win98 groups my home and I've lived there ever >>> since, though I now visit almost all Windows groups except Vista. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----------- >>> based on your unprofessionalism >>> it is not within you to uphold the >>> standards here: >>> >>> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpintro >>> >>> many of us have long been >>> involved with computers >>> and programming by the >>> time you began playing >>> with win98. >>> >>> your disrespectfullness >>> is not appreciated. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> >>> >>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >>> news:%233AuH$9$IHA.5192@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>" db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> >>>>wrote in message >>>>news:ujTYCg8$IHA.2072@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>> 1) Microsoft is the absolute >>>>> source of information pertaining >>>>> to windows. all others is secondary. >>>> >>>> That's a total crock, Idiot. >>>> >>>>> 2) their registry cleaner is a free >>>>> online safety scanner, therefore >>>>> there is no marketing or selling. >>>> >>>> Here is is in words of two sylables, max, so maybe you'll understand >>>> Idiot: >>>> Free Windows tools equals "good will", equals more sales equals more >>>> money. Got it? >>>> >>>>> 3) the fact is that the registry can be >>>>> cleaned and defrag'd. therefore, it >>>>> can be done at the discretion and >>>>> convenience of each windows user. >>>> >>>> Fact is that they are sold (or given away for reasons selfless and not >>>> at all selfless) as ways for "AVERAGE USERS" to "tune up or >>>> fix their PCs. Fact is, they do nothing of the sort. It's a HUGE >>>> LIE!!! >>>> >>>> Of course, you're no dobt one of those people who claims caveat >>>> emptor". Well, when you SELL crap by making TOTALLY BOGUS CLAIMS, >>>> that amounts to FRAUD! >>>> >>>> Of course every user has the right to do what they want to their >>>> computer. This discussion isn't about that. It's about whether >>>> OneCare Registry Cleaner is bogus, dangerous crap or not. It is. >>>> >>>>> 4) To utilize your argument: >>>>> Russinovich skill levels do not match >>>>> those of the software engineers that >>>>> created the One Care system. >>>> >>>> ROTFLMAO!!!!! THAT is a TOTAL load of BS! Those OneCare programmers >>>> don't even come close to the skill levels of most of the rest >>>> of Microsoft's programmers, let alone those of Russinovich. >>>> >>>>> In fact if Russinovich believed the >>>>> registry should be left alone, he >>>>> should not have created a utility >>>>> to defrag the registry hive. >>>> >>>> You just can't help showing how stupid youu are, can you? Russinovich >>>> says nothing in teh referenced articles about defragmenting >>>> the Registry, he only speaks of "cleaning" the Resistry. Where does >>>> your stupidity enter into it? Where you can't tell the >>>> difference between those two entirely different topics. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Gary S. Terhune >>>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>>> http://grystmill.com >>>> >>>> >>>>> "Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message >>>>> news:eIR6gk7$IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>> "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:Xns9AFBA4C0257DAHHI2948AJD832@69.16.185.247... >>>>>> >>>>>>> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in >>>>>>> news:ft5k94t4g7bsodt1m2qgsm923lhq8s4hn1@4ax.com: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:15:01 -0700, Fez >>>>>>>> <Fez@discussions.microsoft.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My XP machinces are running slower then usual. I intalled XP 6 >>>>>>>>> months >>>>>>>>> ago and now users are complaining that their machines are working >>>>>>>>> slower then normal. I reinstalled the Win XP on one of the >>>>>>>>> computer >>>>>>>>> and this computer is working normally. We have not made any >>>>>>>>> changes >>>>>>>>> on our network and we have not installed any new software on the >>>>>>>>> client computers. These machines are completely clean. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> How do you know that? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Has any one encoutered this kind of problem? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There are very problems that are unique to a single user. I've >>>>>>>> never >>>>>>>> personally experienced it on any of my XP machines, though. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Does XP become slower over the time? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Do we need to reinstall it after some time? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Secondly, Can anyone recommend good registry cleaner and system >>>>>>>>> cleaner software to tune up my xp machine? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There is no such thing as a "good registry cleaner" or good >>>>>>>> "system >>>>>>>> cleaner software." Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. >>>>>>>> Cleaning of the registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the >>>>>>>> registry alone and don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what >>>>>>>> many >>>>>>>> people think, and what vendors of registry cleaning software try >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> convince you of, having unused registry entries doesn't really >>>>>>>> hurt >>>>>>>> you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Seems MS disagrees.. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Microsoft is a company made up of many thousands of different >>>>>> people, with different skill levels, different strengths, >>>>>> different weaknesses, and different responsibilities. They certainly >>>>>> don't all have the same views on everything. Those people >>>>>> with responsibility for marketing of software may disagree, because >>>>>> their interest is selling you software that does this, but >>>>>> Mark Russinovich, one of the most respected technical names at >>>>>> Microsoft, happens to agree that registry cleaners should *not* >>>>>> be used. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm not using my home computer at the moment, and don't have a link >>>>>> handy to the page in which Russinovich talks about this >>>>>> subject, but I hope someone else here will post it. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >
Guest Dustin Cook Posted August 17, 2008 Posted August 17, 2008 Re: XP db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. . <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in news:O5oULn#$IHA.1016@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl: > ------=_NextPart_001_002A_01C8FFBF.BF7AED80 > Mr. Gary S. Terhune > Primary Profile: > Back in the winter of '99, I got snowed in, trapped in my tiny > travel trailer. So I was playing around a lot with Windows 98, tearing > it apart and then rebuilding it. I found IE5 beta and installed it, then > reinstalled it, reinstalled the whole system, etc., etc. Finally, I had > it down to two problems, so I went looking for the answers. Found the > IE5 beta newsgroup, asked my questions, waited 20 minutes for the > answers (good ones), and while I waited, I answered a few others. Well, > I was hooked. Made the Win98 groups my home and I've lived there ever > since, though I now visit almost all Windows groups except Vista. > > > > ----------- > based on your unprofessionalism > it is not within you to uphold the > standards here: > > https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpintro > > many of us have long been > involved with computers > and programming by the > time you began playing > with win98. Hmm. I don't know you nor Gary, but I am among those who have been writing software for a very long time. From a coding standpoint, likely yes, the less dead keys you have. the more efficient the system. That would occur with any database file structure, however. In this respect, the registry is no different. However, I still wouldn't just use some automated tool thats going to take guesses. Registry keys and the values withen are extremely important. Thanks from the both of you and the input from the others regarding the registry cleaners. -- Regards, Dustin Cook, Author of BugHunter BugHunter - http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk MalwareBytes - http://www.malwarebytes.org
Guest Dustin Cook Posted August 17, 2008 Posted August 17, 2008 Re: XP FredW <fredw@blackholespam.net>> wrote in news:02aea4hsbgf9q2f14i4b09i8520sqtskht@4ax.com: > On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 08:59:54 -0700, "Ken Blake" > <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote: > >>"Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message >>news:Xns9AFBA4C0257DAHHI2948AJD832@69.16.185.247... >> >>> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in >>> news:ft5k94t4g7bsodt1m2qgsm923lhq8s4hn1@4ax.com: >>> >>>> On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:15:01 -0700, Fez >>>> <Fez@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Secondly, Can anyone recommend good registry cleaner and system >>>>> cleaner software to tune up my xp machine? >>>> >>>> >>>> There is no such thing as a "good registry cleaner" or good "system >>>> cleaner software." Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. >>>> Cleaning of the registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the >>>> registry alone and don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what >>>> many people think, and what vendors of registry cleaning software >>>> try to convince you of, having unused registry entries doesn't >>>> really hurt you. >>> >>> http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm >>> >>> Seems MS disagrees.. >> >> >>Microsoft is a company made up of many thousands of different people, >>with different skill levels, different strengths, different >>weaknesses, and different responsibilities. They certainly don't all >>have the same views on everything. Those people with responsibility >>for marketing of software may disagree, because their interest is >>selling you software that does this, but Mark Russinovich, one of the >>most respected technical names at Microsoft, happens to agree that >>registry cleaners should *not* be used. >> >>I'm not using my home computer at the moment, and don't have a link >>handy to the page in which Russinovich talks about this subject, but I >>hope someone else here will post it. > > > http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099 > Thanks! I haven't and never will implement a Registry cleaner since it's of little practical use on anything other than Win2K terminal servers and developing one that's both safe and effective requires a huge amount of application-specific knowledge. Mark said that, and I find myself in total agreement. -- Regards, Dustin Cook, Author of BugHunter BugHunter - http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk MalwareBytes - http://www.malwarebytes.org
Guest Zilbandy Posted August 17, 2008 Posted August 17, 2008 Re: XP On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 15:06:16 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote: >LOL!!! Who said I was trying to reason with *him*? I know he's hopelessly >ignorant, willfully stupid and a deliberate misleader of innocents. a troll >and a total POS besides. I respond for the benefit of those who might, >somehow, think he has anything he says is EVER correct (except by pure >accident), and that following his advice will greatly increase the chances >of ruining your Windows system. So why not ignore him instead of cluttering up the group with posts about his lack/lack of adequate knowledge? I have ignored him since I got fed up with his short "newspaper column" width posts. -- Zilbandy
Guest db.·.. > Posted August 17, 2008 Posted August 17, 2008 Re: Gary Terhune, BAD MVP, BAD MICROSOFT REPRESENTATIVE Re: Gary Terhune, BAD MVP, BAD MICROSOFT REPRESENTATIVE yawn. i got better things to do than to deal with mvp garbage. -- db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:eM7O2i$$IHA.4040@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >I can think of lots of appropriate adjectives for me. Alas, without serious munging, which even that I promised to try my best to >keep to a minimum (how'm I doin'?), most of them are filtered by MS temporary-help censers. Have I ever pretended otherwise, Oh Wee >Dung Ball? > > Quote some quotes and cite some cites. Let's have a real discussion about it, you stinking weasel. It's kind of OT, but what the > heck. > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://grystmill.com > > " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:%23nVazB$$IHA.1180@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> it's no skin for me. >> >> i call you a bully simply >> because i cannot think of an >> appropriate adjective for you. >> >> certainly, you are not an >> mvp, though you are pretending >> to be one. >> >> further, your verbal abuse and >> inappropriate postings are not >> in accordance to the expectations >> as here: >> >> Microsoft MVPs: Microsoft MVPs (Most Valuable Professionals) volunteer technical answers and expertise in many Microsoft >> Community Web sites. Microsoft MVPs come from a wide range of backgrounds and professions. All share a willingness to give their >> time, expertise, and advice to enhance the technical skills of others. MVPs are not Microsoft employees and Microsoft has no >> expectations of MVPs beyond the expectations of courtesy, professionalism, and adherence to the Community rules that we ask of >> all Microsoft community members. For more information on the MVP program and how you can become an MVP, see >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/. >> so i posted your mug shot and >> i think it speaks volumes about >> you. >> ----------------- >> perhaps the disdain you have >> for yourself is what is being >> leeched out onto these newsgroups: >> >> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=AE162829-C413-4E59-8C6F-9415EEB3201A >> >> clearly, the below does not >> apply to you: >> >> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpintro >> >> >> -- >> >> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> >> >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:eptr30%23$IHA.4148@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> Awwww... poor w'il baby feeling picked on? Where's your Mommy? Oh, she's right there under your butt? Well, tell her for me that >>> she's a totally lousy mother to have raised such a POS as yourself. >>> >>> I'll bully you and anyone else who deserves it all I want to. For the betterment of humankind, if for no other reason. Tiny >>> pieces of dung should rot into the dirt, like they're supposed to, not pretend to know anything at all about computers, Windows, >>> Microsoft, the MVP Program or anything else, and especially not presume to think they know the slightest thing about me. >>> >>> -- >>> Gary S. Terhune >>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>> http://grystmill.com >>> >>> " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>> news:uTjB6Z%23$IHA.4528@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>> terhune, you should >>>> simply go back into >>>> your little trailer and >>>> stop being a bully. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> >>>> >>>> >>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:%233AuH$9$IHA.5192@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>" db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>>>news:ujTYCg8$IHA.2072@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>> 1) Microsoft is the absolute >>>>>> source of information pertaining >>>>>> to windows. all others is secondary. >>>>> >>>>> That's a total crock, Idiot. >>>>> >>>>>> 2) their registry cleaner is a free >>>>>> online safety scanner, therefore >>>>>> there is no marketing or selling. >>>>> >>>>> Here is is in words of two sylables, max, so maybe you'll understand Idiot: >>>>> Free Windows tools equals "good will", equals more sales equals more money. Got it? >>>>> >>>>>> 3) the fact is that the registry can be >>>>>> cleaned and defrag'd. therefore, it >>>>>> can be done at the discretion and >>>>>> convenience of each windows user. >>>>> >>>>> Fact is that they are sold (or given away for reasons selfless and not at all selfless) as ways for "AVERAGE USERS" to "tune >>>>> up or fix their PCs. Fact is, they do nothing of the sort. It's a HUGE LIE!!! >>>>> >>>>> Of course, you're no dobt one of those people who claims caveat emptor". Well, when you SELL crap by making TOTALLY BOGUS >>>>> CLAIMS, that amounts to FRAUD! >>>>> >>>>> Of course every user has the right to do what they want to their computer. This discussion isn't about that. It's about >>>>> whether OneCare Registry Cleaner is bogus, dangerous crap or not. It is. >>>>> >>>>>> 4) To utilize your argument: >>>>>> Russinovich skill levels do not match >>>>>> those of the software engineers that >>>>>> created the One Care system. >>>>> >>>>> ROTFLMAO!!!!! THAT is a TOTAL load of BS! Those OneCare programmers don't even come close to the skill levels of most of the >>>>> rest of Microsoft's programmers, let alone those of Russinovich. >>>>> >>>>>> In fact if Russinovich believed the >>>>>> registry should be left alone, he >>>>>> should not have created a utility >>>>>> to defrag the registry hive. >>>>> >>>>> You just can't help showing how stupid youu are, can you? Russinovich says nothing in teh referenced articles about >>>>> defragmenting the Registry, he only speaks of "cleaning" the Resistry. Where does your stupidity enter into it? Where you >>>>> can't tell the difference between those two entirely different topics. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Gary S. Terhune >>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>>>> http://grystmill.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> "Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message news:eIR6gk7$IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message news:Xns9AFBA4C0257DAHHI2948AJD832@69.16.185.247... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in >>>>>>>> news:ft5k94t4g7bsodt1m2qgsm923lhq8s4hn1@4ax.com: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:15:01 -0700, Fez <Fez@discussions.microsoft.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> My XP machinces are running slower then usual. I intalled XP 6 months >>>>>>>>>> ago and now users are complaining that their machines are working >>>>>>>>>> slower then normal. I reinstalled the Win XP on one of the computer >>>>>>>>>> and this computer is working normally. We have not made any changes >>>>>>>>>> on our network and we have not installed any new software on the >>>>>>>>>> client computers. These machines are completely clean. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> How do you know that? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Has any one encoutered this kind of problem? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> There are very problems that are unique to a single user. I've never >>>>>>>>> personally experienced it on any of my XP machines, though. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Does XP become slower over the time? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> No. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Do we need to reinstall it after some time? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> No. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Secondly, Can anyone recommend good registry cleaner and system >>>>>>>>>> cleaner software to tune up my xp machine? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> There is no such thing as a "good registry cleaner" or good "system >>>>>>>>> cleaner software." Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. >>>>>>>>> Cleaning of the registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the >>>>>>>>> registry alone and don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many >>>>>>>>> people think, and what vendors of registry cleaning software try to >>>>>>>>> convince you of, having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt >>>>>>>>> you. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Seems MS disagrees.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Microsoft is a company made up of many thousands of different people, with different skill levels, different strengths, >>>>>>> different weaknesses, and different responsibilities. They certainly don't all have the same views on everything. Those >>>>>>> people with responsibility for marketing of software may disagree, because their interest is selling you software that does >>>>>>> this, but Mark Russinovich, one of the most respected technical names at Microsoft, happens to agree that registry cleaners >>>>>>> should *not* be used. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm not using my home computer at the moment, and don't have a link handy to the page in which Russinovich talks about this >>>>>>> subject, but I hope someone else here will post it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > >
Guest db.·.. > Posted August 17, 2008 Posted August 17, 2008 Re: XP from a database perspective, bad data is unacceptable. -- db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message news:Xns9AFCD4B4EA710HHI2948AJD832@69.16.185.250... > db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. . <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote > in news:O5oULn#$IHA.1016@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl: > >> ------=_NextPart_001_002A_01C8FFBF.BF7AED80 >> Mr. Gary S. Terhune >> Primary Profile: >> Back in the winter of '99, I got snowed in, trapped in my tiny >> travel trailer. So I was playing around a lot with Windows 98, tearing >> it apart and then rebuilding it. I found IE5 beta and installed it, > then >> reinstalled it, reinstalled the whole system, etc., etc. Finally, I had >> it down to two problems, so I went looking for the answers. Found the >> IE5 beta newsgroup, asked my questions, waited 20 minutes for the >> answers (good ones), and while I waited, I answered a few others. Well, >> I was hooked. Made the Win98 groups my home and I've lived there ever >> since, though I now visit almost all Windows groups except Vista. >> >> >> >> ----------- >> based on your unprofessionalism >> it is not within you to uphold the >> standards here: >> >> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpintro >> >> many of us have long been >> involved with computers >> and programming by the >> time you began playing >> with win98. > > > Hmm. I don't know you nor Gary, but I am among those who have been > writing software for a very long time. > > From a coding standpoint, likely yes, the less dead keys you have. the > more efficient the system. That would occur with any database file > structure, however. In this respect, the registry is no different. > > However, I still wouldn't just use some automated tool thats going to > take guesses. Registry keys and the values withen are extremely > important. > > > Thanks from the both of you and the input from the others regarding the > registry cleaners. > > > > -- > Regards, > Dustin Cook, Author of BugHunter > BugHunter - http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk > MalwareBytes - http://www.malwarebytes.org > >
Guest Unknown Posted August 17, 2008 Posted August 17, 2008 Re: XP If not addressed why unacceptable? Is all unused memory 'unacceptable'? " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:%23cH5QtHAJHA.4756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > from a database > perspective, bad > data is unacceptable. > > -- > > db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> > > > "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:Xns9AFCD4B4EA710HHI2948AJD832@69.16.185.250... >> db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. . <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote >> in news:O5oULn#$IHA.1016@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl: >> >>> ------=_NextPart_001_002A_01C8FFBF.BF7AED80 >>> Mr. Gary S. Terhune >>> Primary Profile: >>> Back in the winter of '99, I got snowed in, trapped in my tiny >>> travel trailer. So I was playing around a lot with Windows 98, tearing >>> it apart and then rebuilding it. I found IE5 beta and installed it, >> then >>> reinstalled it, reinstalled the whole system, etc., etc. Finally, I had >>> it down to two problems, so I went looking for the answers. Found the >>> IE5 beta newsgroup, asked my questions, waited 20 minutes for the >>> answers (good ones), and while I waited, I answered a few others. Well, >>> I was hooked. Made the Win98 groups my home and I've lived there ever >>> since, though I now visit almost all Windows groups except Vista. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----------- >>> based on your unprofessionalism >>> it is not within you to uphold the >>> standards here: >>> >>> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpintro >>> >>> many of us have long been >>> involved with computers >>> and programming by the >>> time you began playing >>> with win98. >> >> >> Hmm. I don't know you nor Gary, but I am among those who have been >> writing software for a very long time. >> >> From a coding standpoint, likely yes, the less dead keys you have. the >> more efficient the system. That would occur with any database file >> structure, however. In this respect, the registry is no different. >> >> However, I still wouldn't just use some automated tool thats going to >> take guesses. Registry keys and the values withen are extremely >> important. >> >> >> Thanks from the both of you and the input from the others regarding the >> registry cleaners. >> >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Dustin Cook, Author of BugHunter >> BugHunter - http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk >> MalwareBytes - http://www.malwarebytes.org >> >> >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 17, 2008 Posted August 17, 2008 Re: XP It's a close call. Ignoring the idiot will give me more peace, and I've done that for at least a year, more like two. But as another colleague responded when I asked, it is actually better to keep an eye on him and make as many people as possible aware that he is an ignorant jerk who's advice will very likely result in a broken Windows system. Yes, regulars and the knowledgeable will know to ignore him, but how about the innocents who come looking for answers and can't tell that his are from the dark side. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "Zilbandy" <zilbandy@comcastREMOVETHIS.net> wrote in message news:9hvfa454og384elsfmn9e5hk1l7uchrd1s@4ax.com... > On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 15:06:16 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote: > >>LOL!!! Who said I was trying to reason with *him*? I know he's hopelessly >>ignorant, willfully stupid and a deliberate misleader of innocents. a >>troll >>and a total POS besides. I respond for the benefit of those who might, >>somehow, think he has anything he says is EVER correct (except by pure >>accident), and that following his advice will greatly increase the chances >>of ruining your Windows system. > > So why not ignore him instead of cluttering up the group with posts > about his lack/lack of adequate knowledge? I have ignored him since I > got fed up with his short "newspaper column" width posts. > > -- > Zilbandy
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 17, 2008 Posted August 17, 2008 Re: Gary Terhune, BAD MVP, BAD MICROSOFT REPRESENTATIVE Re: Gary Terhune, BAD MVP, BAD MICROSOFT REPRESENTATIVE Thought so. You're a cheap liar. You have also repeatedly libeled me, and what with me getting older and having less and less to do, maybe I'll just track you down and sue you. Nice, malicious lawsuit with heavy-duty penalties. Get some real vicious lawyer to do it for me. Give him something like 95% commission. Advertise for the most vicious attack dog I can find. Think I'll get any takers? -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:ugqgQtHAJHA.4756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > yawn. > > i got better things > to do than to deal > with mvp garbage. > > -- > > db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> > > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > news:eM7O2i$$IHA.4040@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>I can think of lots of appropriate adjectives for me. Alas, without >>serious munging, which even that I promised to try my best to keep to a >>minimum (how'm I doin'?), most of them are filtered by MS temporary-help >>censers. Have I ever pretended otherwise, Oh Wee Dung Ball? >> >> Quote some quotes and cite some cites. Let's have a real discussion about >> it, you stinking weasel. It's kind of OT, but what the heck. >> >> -- >> Gary S. Terhune >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> http://grystmill.com >> >> " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> >> wrote in message news:%23nVazB$$IHA.1180@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> it's no skin for me. >>> >>> i call you a bully simply >>> because i cannot think of an >>> appropriate adjective for you. >>> >>> certainly, you are not an >>> mvp, though you are pretending >>> to be one. >>> >>> further, your verbal abuse and >>> inappropriate postings are not >>> in accordance to the expectations >>> as here: >>> >>> Microsoft MVPs: Microsoft MVPs (Most Valuable Professionals) volunteer >>> technical answers and expertise in many Microsoft Community Web sites. >>> Microsoft MVPs come from a wide range of backgrounds and professions. >>> All share a willingness to give their time, expertise, and advice to >>> enhance the technical skills of others. MVPs are not Microsoft employees >>> and Microsoft has no expectations of MVPs beyond the expectations of >>> courtesy, professionalism, and adherence to the Community rules that we >>> ask of all Microsoft community members. For more information on the MVP >>> program and how you can become an MVP, see >>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/. >>> so i posted your mug shot and >>> i think it speaks volumes about >>> you. >>> ----------------- >>> perhaps the disdain you have >>> for yourself is what is being >>> leeched out onto these newsgroups: >>> >>> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=AE162829-C413-4E59-8C6F-9415EEB3201A >>> >>> clearly, the below does not >>> apply to you: >>> >>> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpintro >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> >>> >>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >>> news:eptr30%23$IHA.4148@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>> Awwww... poor w'il baby feeling picked on? Where's your Mommy? Oh, >>>> she's right there under your butt? Well, tell her for me that she's a >>>> totally lousy mother to have raised such a POS as yourself. >>>> >>>> I'll bully you and anyone else who deserves it all I want to. For the >>>> betterment of humankind, if for no other reason. Tiny pieces of dung >>>> should rot into the dirt, like they're supposed to, not pretend to know >>>> anything at all about computers, Windows, Microsoft, the MVP Program or >>>> anything else, and especially not presume to think they know the >>>> slightest thing about me. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Gary S. Terhune >>>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>>> http://grystmill.com >>>> >>>> " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> >>>> wrote in message news:uTjB6Z%23$IHA.4528@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>> terhune, you should >>>>> simply go back into >>>>> your little trailer and >>>>> stop being a bully. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >>>>> news:%233AuH$9$IHA.5192@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>>" db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> >>>>>>wrote in message news:ujTYCg8$IHA.2072@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> 1) Microsoft is the absolute >>>>>>> source of information pertaining >>>>>>> to windows. all others is secondary. >>>>>> >>>>>> That's a total crock, Idiot. >>>>>> >>>>>>> 2) their registry cleaner is a free >>>>>>> online safety scanner, therefore >>>>>>> there is no marketing or selling. >>>>>> >>>>>> Here is is in words of two sylables, max, so maybe you'll understand >>>>>> Idiot: >>>>>> Free Windows tools equals "good will", equals more sales equals more >>>>>> money. Got it? >>>>>> >>>>>>> 3) the fact is that the registry can be >>>>>>> cleaned and defrag'd. therefore, it >>>>>>> can be done at the discretion and >>>>>>> convenience of each windows user. >>>>>> >>>>>> Fact is that they are sold (or given away for reasons selfless and >>>>>> not at all selfless) as ways for "AVERAGE USERS" to "tune up or fix >>>>>> their PCs. Fact is, they do nothing of the sort. It's a HUGE LIE!!! >>>>>> >>>>>> Of course, you're no dobt one of those people who claims caveat >>>>>> emptor". Well, when you SELL crap by making TOTALLY BOGUS CLAIMS, >>>>>> that amounts to FRAUD! >>>>>> >>>>>> Of course every user has the right to do what they want to their >>>>>> computer. This discussion isn't about that. It's about whether >>>>>> OneCare Registry Cleaner is bogus, dangerous crap or not. It is. >>>>>> >>>>>>> 4) To utilize your argument: >>>>>>> Russinovich skill levels do not match >>>>>>> those of the software engineers that >>>>>>> created the One Care system. >>>>>> >>>>>> ROTFLMAO!!!!! THAT is a TOTAL load of BS! Those OneCare programmers >>>>>> don't even come close to the skill levels of most of the rest of >>>>>> Microsoft's programmers, let alone those of Russinovich. >>>>>> >>>>>>> In fact if Russinovich believed the >>>>>>> registry should be left alone, he >>>>>>> should not have created a utility >>>>>>> to defrag the registry hive. >>>>>> >>>>>> You just can't help showing how stupid youu are, can you? Russinovich >>>>>> says nothing in teh referenced articles about defragmenting the >>>>>> Registry, he only speaks of "cleaning" the Resistry. Where does your >>>>>> stupidity enter into it? Where you can't tell the difference between >>>>>> those two entirely different topics. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Gary S. Terhune >>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>>>>> http://grystmill.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> "Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:eIR6gk7$IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>> "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:Xns9AFBA4C0257DAHHI2948AJD832@69.16.185.247... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in >>>>>>>>> news:ft5k94t4g7bsodt1m2qgsm923lhq8s4hn1@4ax.com: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:15:01 -0700, Fez >>>>>>>>>> <Fez@discussions.microsoft.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> My XP machinces are running slower then usual. I intalled XP 6 >>>>>>>>>>> months >>>>>>>>>>> ago and now users are complaining that their machines are >>>>>>>>>>> working >>>>>>>>>>> slower then normal. I reinstalled the Win XP on one of the >>>>>>>>>>> computer >>>>>>>>>>> and this computer is working normally. We have not made any >>>>>>>>>>> changes >>>>>>>>>>> on our network and we have not installed any new software on the >>>>>>>>>>> client computers. These machines are completely clean. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> How do you know that? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Has any one encoutered this kind of problem? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> There are very problems that are unique to a single user. I've >>>>>>>>>> never >>>>>>>>>> personally experienced it on any of my XP machines, though. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Does XP become slower over the time? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> No. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Do we need to reinstall it after some time? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> No. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Secondly, Can anyone recommend good registry cleaner and system >>>>>>>>>>> cleaner software to tune up my xp machine? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> There is no such thing as a "good registry cleaner" or good >>>>>>>>>> "system >>>>>>>>>> cleaner software." Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake >>>>>>>>>> oil. >>>>>>>>>> Cleaning of the registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the >>>>>>>>>> registry alone and don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what >>>>>>>>>> many >>>>>>>>>> people think, and what vendors of registry cleaning software try >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> convince you of, having unused registry entries doesn't really >>>>>>>>>> hurt >>>>>>>>>> you. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Seems MS disagrees.. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Microsoft is a company made up of many thousands of different >>>>>>>> people, with different skill levels, different strengths, different >>>>>>>> weaknesses, and different responsibilities. They certainly don't >>>>>>>> all have the same views on everything. Those people with >>>>>>>> responsibility for marketing of software may disagree, because >>>>>>>> their interest is selling you software that does this, but Mark >>>>>>>> Russinovich, one of the most respected technical names at >>>>>>>> Microsoft, happens to agree that registry cleaners should *not* be >>>>>>>> used. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm not using my home computer at the moment, and don't have a link >>>>>>>> handy to the page in which Russinovich talks about this subject, >>>>>>>> but I hope someone else here will post it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 17, 2008 Posted August 17, 2008 Re: Gary Terhune, BAD MVP, BAD MICROSOFT REPRESENTATIVE Re: Gary Terhune, BAD MVP, BAD MICROSOFT REPRESENTATIVE Yup, real chickensquirt, that's what you are. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:ugqgQtHAJHA.4756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > yawn. > > i got better things > to do than to deal > with mvp garbage. > > -- > > db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> > > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > news:eM7O2i$$IHA.4040@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>I can think of lots of appropriate adjectives for me. Alas, without >>serious munging, which even that I promised to try my best to keep to a >>minimum (how'm I doin'?), most of them are filtered by MS temporary-help >>censers. Have I ever pretended otherwise, Oh Wee Dung Ball? >> >> Quote some quotes and cite some cites. Let's have a real discussion about >> it, you stinking weasel. It's kind of OT, but what the heck. >> >> -- >> Gary S. Terhune >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> http://grystmill.com >> >> " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> >> wrote in message news:%23nVazB$$IHA.1180@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> it's no skin for me. >>> >>> i call you a bully simply >>> because i cannot think of an >>> appropriate adjective for you. >>> >>> certainly, you are not an >>> mvp, though you are pretending >>> to be one. >>> >>> further, your verbal abuse and >>> inappropriate postings are not >>> in accordance to the expectations >>> as here: >>> >>> Microsoft MVPs: Microsoft MVPs (Most Valuable Professionals) volunteer >>> technical answers and expertise in many Microsoft Community Web sites. >>> Microsoft MVPs come from a wide range of backgrounds and professions. >>> All share a willingness to give their time, expertise, and advice to >>> enhance the technical skills of others. MVPs are not Microsoft employees >>> and Microsoft has no expectations of MVPs beyond the expectations of >>> courtesy, professionalism, and adherence to the Community rules that we >>> ask of all Microsoft community members. For more information on the MVP >>> program and how you can become an MVP, see >>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/. >>> so i posted your mug shot and >>> i think it speaks volumes about >>> you. >>> ----------------- >>> perhaps the disdain you have >>> for yourself is what is being >>> leeched out onto these newsgroups: >>> >>> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=AE162829-C413-4E59-8C6F-9415EEB3201A >>> >>> clearly, the below does not >>> apply to you: >>> >>> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpintro >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> >>> >>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >>> news:eptr30%23$IHA.4148@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>> Awwww... poor w'il baby feeling picked on? Where's your Mommy? Oh, >>>> she's right there under your butt? Well, tell her for me that she's a >>>> totally lousy mother to have raised such a POS as yourself. >>>> >>>> I'll bully you and anyone else who deserves it all I want to. For the >>>> betterment of humankind, if for no other reason. Tiny pieces of dung >>>> should rot into the dirt, like they're supposed to, not pretend to know >>>> anything at all about computers, Windows, Microsoft, the MVP Program or >>>> anything else, and especially not presume to think they know the >>>> slightest thing about me. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Gary S. Terhune >>>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>>> http://grystmill.com >>>> >>>> " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> >>>> wrote in message news:uTjB6Z%23$IHA.4528@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>> terhune, you should >>>>> simply go back into >>>>> your little trailer and >>>>> stop being a bully. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >>>>> news:%233AuH$9$IHA.5192@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>>" db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> >>>>>>wrote in message news:ujTYCg8$IHA.2072@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> 1) Microsoft is the absolute >>>>>>> source of information pertaining >>>>>>> to windows. all others is secondary. >>>>>> >>>>>> That's a total crock, Idiot. >>>>>> >>>>>>> 2) their registry cleaner is a free >>>>>>> online safety scanner, therefore >>>>>>> there is no marketing or selling. >>>>>> >>>>>> Here is is in words of two sylables, max, so maybe you'll understand >>>>>> Idiot: >>>>>> Free Windows tools equals "good will", equals more sales equals more >>>>>> money. Got it? >>>>>> >>>>>>> 3) the fact is that the registry can be >>>>>>> cleaned and defrag'd. therefore, it >>>>>>> can be done at the discretion and >>>>>>> convenience of each windows user. >>>>>> >>>>>> Fact is that they are sold (or given away for reasons selfless and >>>>>> not at all selfless) as ways for "AVERAGE USERS" to "tune up or fix >>>>>> their PCs. Fact is, they do nothing of the sort. It's a HUGE LIE!!! >>>>>> >>>>>> Of course, you're no dobt one of those people who claims caveat >>>>>> emptor". Well, when you SELL crap by making TOTALLY BOGUS CLAIMS, >>>>>> that amounts to FRAUD! >>>>>> >>>>>> Of course every user has the right to do what they want to their >>>>>> computer. This discussion isn't about that. It's about whether >>>>>> OneCare Registry Cleaner is bogus, dangerous crap or not. It is. >>>>>> >>>>>>> 4) To utilize your argument: >>>>>>> Russinovich skill levels do not match >>>>>>> those of the software engineers that >>>>>>> created the One Care system. >>>>>> >>>>>> ROTFLMAO!!!!! THAT is a TOTAL load of BS! Those OneCare programmers >>>>>> don't even come close to the skill levels of most of the rest of >>>>>> Microsoft's programmers, let alone those of Russinovich. >>>>>> >>>>>>> In fact if Russinovich believed the >>>>>>> registry should be left alone, he >>>>>>> should not have created a utility >>>>>>> to defrag the registry hive. >>>>>> >>>>>> You just can't help showing how stupid youu are, can you? Russinovich >>>>>> says nothing in teh referenced articles about defragmenting the >>>>>> Registry, he only speaks of "cleaning" the Resistry. Where does your >>>>>> stupidity enter into it? Where you can't tell the difference between >>>>>> those two entirely different topics. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Gary S. Terhune >>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>>>>> http://grystmill.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> "Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:eIR6gk7$IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>> "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:Xns9AFBA4C0257DAHHI2948AJD832@69.16.185.247... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in >>>>>>>>> news:ft5k94t4g7bsodt1m2qgsm923lhq8s4hn1@4ax.com: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:15:01 -0700, Fez >>>>>>>>>> <Fez@discussions.microsoft.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> My XP machinces are running slower then usual. I intalled XP 6 >>>>>>>>>>> months >>>>>>>>>>> ago and now users are complaining that their machines are >>>>>>>>>>> working >>>>>>>>>>> slower then normal. I reinstalled the Win XP on one of the >>>>>>>>>>> computer >>>>>>>>>>> and this computer is working normally. We have not made any >>>>>>>>>>> changes >>>>>>>>>>> on our network and we have not installed any new software on the >>>>>>>>>>> client computers. These machines are completely clean. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> How do you know that? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Has any one encoutered this kind of problem? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> There are very problems that are unique to a single user. I've >>>>>>>>>> never >>>>>>>>>> personally experienced it on any of my XP machines, though. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Does XP become slower over the time? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> No. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Do we need to reinstall it after some time? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> No. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Secondly, Can anyone recommend good registry cleaner and system >>>>>>>>>>> cleaner software to tune up my xp machine? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> There is no such thing as a "good registry cleaner" or good >>>>>>>>>> "system >>>>>>>>>> cleaner software." Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake >>>>>>>>>> oil. >>>>>>>>>> Cleaning of the registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the >>>>>>>>>> registry alone and don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what >>>>>>>>>> many >>>>>>>>>> people think, and what vendors of registry cleaning software try >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> convince you of, having unused registry entries doesn't really >>>>>>>>>> hurt >>>>>>>>>> you. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Seems MS disagrees.. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Microsoft is a company made up of many thousands of different >>>>>>>> people, with different skill levels, different strengths, different >>>>>>>> weaknesses, and different responsibilities. They certainly don't >>>>>>>> all have the same views on everything. Those people with >>>>>>>> responsibility for marketing of software may disagree, because >>>>>>>> their interest is selling you software that does this, but Mark >>>>>>>> Russinovich, one of the most respected technical names at >>>>>>>> Microsoft, happens to agree that registry cleaners should *not* be >>>>>>>> used. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm not using my home computer at the moment, and don't have a link >>>>>>>> handy to the page in which Russinovich talks about this subject, >>>>>>>> but I hope someone else here will post it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 17, 2008 Posted August 17, 2008 Re: XP You ARE aware that db-liar-thief knows absolutely nothing about computers? That he is a total liar and ignorant poser? -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message news:Xns9AFCD4B4EA710HHI2948AJD832@69.16.185.250... > db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. . <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote > in news:O5oULn#$IHA.1016@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl: > >> ------=_NextPart_001_002A_01C8FFBF.BF7AED80 >> Mr. Gary S. Terhune >> Primary Profile: >> Back in the winter of '99, I got snowed in, trapped in my tiny >> travel trailer. So I was playing around a lot with Windows 98, tearing >> it apart and then rebuilding it. I found IE5 beta and installed it, > then >> reinstalled it, reinstalled the whole system, etc., etc. Finally, I had >> it down to two problems, so I went looking for the answers. Found the >> IE5 beta newsgroup, asked my questions, waited 20 minutes for the >> answers (good ones), and while I waited, I answered a few others. Well, >> I was hooked. Made the Win98 groups my home and I've lived there ever >> since, though I now visit almost all Windows groups except Vista. >> >> >> >> ----------- >> based on your unprofessionalism >> it is not within you to uphold the >> standards here: >> >> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpintro >> >> many of us have long been >> involved with computers >> and programming by the >> time you began playing >> with win98. > > > Hmm. I don't know you nor Gary, but I am among those who have been > writing software for a very long time. > > From a coding standpoint, likely yes, the less dead keys you have. the > more efficient the system. That would occur with any database file > structure, however. In this respect, the registry is no different. > > However, I still wouldn't just use some automated tool thats going to > take guesses. Registry keys and the values withen are extremely > important. > > > Thanks from the both of you and the input from the others regarding the > registry cleaners. > > > > -- > Regards, > Dustin Cook, Author of BugHunter > BugHunter - http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk > MalwareBytes - http://www.malwarebytes.org > >
Guest Unknown Posted August 18, 2008 Posted August 18, 2008 Re: Gary Terhune, BAD MVP, BAD MICROSOFT REPRESENTATIVE Re: Gary Terhune, BAD MVP, BAD MICROSOFT REPRESENTATIVE Then go do them and stay away from this newsgroup. " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:ugqgQtHAJHA.4756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > yawn. > > i got better things > to do than to deal > with mvp garbage. > > -- > > db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> > > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > news:eM7O2i$$IHA.4040@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>I can think of lots of appropriate adjectives for me. Alas, without >>serious munging, which even that I promised to try my best to keep to a >>minimum (how'm I doin'?), most of them are filtered by MS temporary-help >>censers. Have I ever pretended otherwise, Oh Wee Dung Ball? >> >> Quote some quotes and cite some cites. Let's have a real discussion about >> it, you stinking weasel. It's kind of OT, but what the heck. >> >> -- >> Gary S. Terhune >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> http://grystmill.com >> >> " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> >> wrote in message news:%23nVazB$$IHA.1180@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> it's no skin for me. >>> >>> i call you a bully simply >>> because i cannot think of an >>> appropriate adjective for you. >>> >>> certainly, you are not an >>> mvp, though you are pretending >>> to be one. >>> >>> further, your verbal abuse and >>> inappropriate postings are not >>> in accordance to the expectations >>> as here: >>> >>> Microsoft MVPs: Microsoft MVPs (Most Valuable Professionals) volunteer >>> technical answers and expertise in many Microsoft Community Web sites. >>> Microsoft MVPs come from a wide range of backgrounds and professions. >>> All share a willingness to give their time, expertise, and advice to >>> enhance the technical skills of others. MVPs are not Microsoft employees >>> and Microsoft has no expectations of MVPs beyond the expectations of >>> courtesy, professionalism, and adherence to the Community rules that we >>> ask of all Microsoft community members. For more information on the MVP >>> program and how you can become an MVP, see >>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/. >>> so i posted your mug shot and >>> i think it speaks volumes about >>> you. >>> ----------------- >>> perhaps the disdain you have >>> for yourself is what is being >>> leeched out onto these newsgroups: >>> >>> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=AE162829-C413-4E59-8C6F-9415EEB3201A >>> >>> clearly, the below does not >>> apply to you: >>> >>> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpintro >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> >>> >>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >>> news:eptr30%23$IHA.4148@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>> Awwww... poor w'il baby feeling picked on? Where's your Mommy? Oh, >>>> she's right there under your butt? Well, tell her for me that she's a >>>> totally lousy mother to have raised such a POS as yourself. >>>> >>>> I'll bully you and anyone else who deserves it all I want to. For the >>>> betterment of humankind, if for no other reason. Tiny pieces of dung >>>> should rot into the dirt, like they're supposed to, not pretend to know >>>> anything at all about computers, Windows, Microsoft, the MVP Program or >>>> anything else, and especially not presume to think they know the >>>> slightest thing about me. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Gary S. Terhune >>>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>>> http://grystmill.com >>>> >>>> " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> >>>> wrote in message news:uTjB6Z%23$IHA.4528@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>> terhune, you should >>>>> simply go back into >>>>> your little trailer and >>>>> stop being a bully. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >>>>> news:%233AuH$9$IHA.5192@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>>" db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> >>>>>>wrote in message news:ujTYCg8$IHA.2072@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> 1) Microsoft is the absolute >>>>>>> source of information pertaining >>>>>>> to windows. all others is secondary. >>>>>> >>>>>> That's a total crock, Idiot. >>>>>> >>>>>>> 2) their registry cleaner is a free >>>>>>> online safety scanner, therefore >>>>>>> there is no marketing or selling. >>>>>> >>>>>> Here is is in words of two sylables, max, so maybe you'll understand >>>>>> Idiot: >>>>>> Free Windows tools equals "good will", equals more sales equals more >>>>>> money. Got it? >>>>>> >>>>>>> 3) the fact is that the registry can be >>>>>>> cleaned and defrag'd. therefore, it >>>>>>> can be done at the discretion and >>>>>>> convenience of each windows user. >>>>>> >>>>>> Fact is that they are sold (or given away for reasons selfless and >>>>>> not at all selfless) as ways for "AVERAGE USERS" to "tune up or fix >>>>>> their PCs. Fact is, they do nothing of the sort. It's a HUGE LIE!!! >>>>>> >>>>>> Of course, you're no dobt one of those people who claims caveat >>>>>> emptor". Well, when you SELL crap by making TOTALLY BOGUS CLAIMS, >>>>>> that amounts to FRAUD! >>>>>> >>>>>> Of course every user has the right to do what they want to their >>>>>> computer. This discussion isn't about that. It's about whether >>>>>> OneCare Registry Cleaner is bogus, dangerous crap or not. It is. >>>>>> >>>>>>> 4) To utilize your argument: >>>>>>> Russinovich skill levels do not match >>>>>>> those of the software engineers that >>>>>>> created the One Care system. >>>>>> >>>>>> ROTFLMAO!!!!! THAT is a TOTAL load of BS! Those OneCare programmers >>>>>> don't even come close to the skill levels of most of the rest of >>>>>> Microsoft's programmers, let alone those of Russinovich. >>>>>> >>>>>>> In fact if Russinovich believed the >>>>>>> registry should be left alone, he >>>>>>> should not have created a utility >>>>>>> to defrag the registry hive. >>>>>> >>>>>> You just can't help showing how stupid youu are, can you? Russinovich >>>>>> says nothing in teh referenced articles about defragmenting the >>>>>> Registry, he only speaks of "cleaning" the Resistry. Where does your >>>>>> stupidity enter into it? Where you can't tell the difference between >>>>>> those two entirely different topics. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Gary S. Terhune >>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>>>>> http://grystmill.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> "Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:eIR6gk7$IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>> "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:Xns9AFBA4C0257DAHHI2948AJD832@69.16.185.247... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in >>>>>>>>> news:ft5k94t4g7bsodt1m2qgsm923lhq8s4hn1@4ax.com: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:15:01 -0700, Fez >>>>>>>>>> <Fez@discussions.microsoft.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> My XP machinces are running slower then usual. I intalled XP 6 >>>>>>>>>>> months >>>>>>>>>>> ago and now users are complaining that their machines are >>>>>>>>>>> working >>>>>>>>>>> slower then normal. I reinstalled the Win XP on one of the >>>>>>>>>>> computer >>>>>>>>>>> and this computer is working normally. We have not made any >>>>>>>>>>> changes >>>>>>>>>>> on our network and we have not installed any new software on the >>>>>>>>>>> client computers. These machines are completely clean. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> How do you know that? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Has any one encoutered this kind of problem? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> There are very problems that are unique to a single user. I've >>>>>>>>>> never >>>>>>>>>> personally experienced it on any of my XP machines, though. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Does XP become slower over the time? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> No. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Do we need to reinstall it after some time? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> No. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Secondly, Can anyone recommend good registry cleaner and system >>>>>>>>>>> cleaner software to tune up my xp machine? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> There is no such thing as a "good registry cleaner" or good >>>>>>>>>> "system >>>>>>>>>> cleaner software." Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake >>>>>>>>>> oil. >>>>>>>>>> Cleaning of the registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the >>>>>>>>>> registry alone and don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what >>>>>>>>>> many >>>>>>>>>> people think, and what vendors of registry cleaning software try >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> convince you of, having unused registry entries doesn't really >>>>>>>>>> hurt >>>>>>>>>> you. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Seems MS disagrees.. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Microsoft is a company made up of many thousands of different >>>>>>>> people, with different skill levels, different strengths, different >>>>>>>> weaknesses, and different responsibilities. They certainly don't >>>>>>>> all have the same views on everything. Those people with >>>>>>>> responsibility for marketing of software may disagree, because >>>>>>>> their interest is selling you software that does this, but Mark >>>>>>>> Russinovich, one of the most respected technical names at >>>>>>>> Microsoft, happens to agree that registry cleaners should *not* be >>>>>>>> used. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm not using my home computer at the moment, and don't have a link >>>>>>>> handy to the page in which Russinovich talks about this subject, >>>>>>>> but I hope someone else here will post it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >
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