Guest Daddy Posted August 7, 2008 Posted August 7, 2008 Since my employer has a Software Assurance agreement with Microsoft, I am entitled to purchase Microsoft Office for home use at a very advantageous price. I can only purchase the same version of Office covered by my employer's Software Assurance agreement, which is Office Enterprise. This version of Office contains way more software than I need, but I know that I can install only the components that I wish to use. The advantageous price comes with two 'gotchas' that are actually quite reasonable: I'm only allowed to use this software for so long as my employer maintains its Software Assurance agreement and for so long as I continue to be employed here. What will happen if my employer drops its Software Assurance agreement or I leave my employer? Not that either is likely to happen anytime soon, but what if? How would Microsoft even know if I leave my employer? It's not that I'm trying to pull a fast one to get Office for cheap, but who can predict what may happen in the future? I don't want to get stuck paying for Office Enterprise years down the road. Another question: If I buy a new computer, can I transfer this copy of Office to the new computer? Thanks for your help. Daddy
Guest Bob I Posted August 7, 2008 Posted August 7, 2008 Re: Software Assurance License Questions First question your rights to use it ends. Second question, you will need to address the transfer issue at the time it comes up. Normally the answer is yes it can be transfered. Daddy wrote: > Since my employer has a Software Assurance agreement with Microsoft, I am > entitled to purchase Microsoft Office for home use at a very advantageous > price. I can only purchase the same version of Office covered by my > employer's Software Assurance agreement, which is Office Enterprise. This > version of Office contains way more software than I need, but I know that I > can install only the components that I wish to use. > > The advantageous price comes with two 'gotchas' that are actually quite > reasonable: I'm only allowed to use this software for so long as my employer > maintains its Software Assurance agreement and for so long as I continue to > be employed here. > > What will happen if my employer drops its Software Assurance agreement or I > leave my employer? Not that either is likely to happen anytime soon, but > what if? How would Microsoft even know if I leave my employer? It's not that > I'm trying to pull a fast one to get Office for cheap, but who can predict > what may happen in the future? I don't want to get stuck paying for Office > Enterprise years down the road. > > Another question: If I buy a new computer, can I transfer this copy of > Office to the new computer? > > Thanks for your help. > > Daddy > >
Guest Patrick Keenan Posted August 7, 2008 Posted August 7, 2008 Re: Software Assurance License Questions "Daddy" <daddy@not.valid.net> wrote in message news:eG3pX8J%23IHA.2232@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Since my employer has a Software Assurance agreement with Microsoft, I am > entitled to purchase Microsoft Office for home use at a very advantageous > price. I can only purchase the same version of Office covered by my > employer's Software Assurance agreement, which is Office Enterprise. This > version of Office contains way more software than I need, but I know that > I can install only the components that I wish to use. > > The advantageous price comes with two 'gotchas' that are actually quite > reasonable: I'm only allowed to use this software for so long as my > employer maintains its Software Assurance agreement and for so long as I > continue to be employed here. > > What will happen if my employer drops its Software Assurance agreement or > I leave my employer? Not that either is likely to happen anytime soon, but > what if? How would Microsoft even know if I leave my employer? It's not > that I'm trying to pull a fast one to get Office for cheap, but who can > predict what may happen in the future? I don't want to get stuck paying > for Office Enterprise years down the road. The license ends with either of those circumstances. Yes, there's a bit of a gamble with your non-refundable payment. > > Another question: If I buy a new computer, can I transfer this copy of > Office to the new computer? With SQA or MSDEV licenses you can generally transfer as much as you need to. It's actually rather expected that you will, if you are doing testing; this doesn't necessarily mean concurrent installs on multiple machines, though. HTH -pk > > Thanks for your help. > > Daddy >
Guest Daddy Posted August 7, 2008 Posted August 7, 2008 Re: Software Assurance License Questions Thanks to you both. I guess the way to look at it is: If you were planning on buying new software in the near future anyway, here's a chance to get it for little money or at least to postpone paying full price for a retail license. Daddy "Patrick Keenan" <test@dev.null> wrote in message news:%23WKv5wN%23IHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > "Daddy" <daddy@not.valid.net> wrote in message > news:eG3pX8J%23IHA.2232@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Since my employer has a Software Assurance agreement with Microsoft, I am >> entitled to purchase Microsoft Office for home use at a very advantageous >> price. I can only purchase the same version of Office covered by my >> employer's Software Assurance agreement, which is Office Enterprise. This >> version of Office contains way more software than I need, but I know that >> I can install only the components that I wish to use. >> >> The advantageous price comes with two 'gotchas' that are actually quite >> reasonable: I'm only allowed to use this software for so long as my >> employer maintains its Software Assurance agreement and for so long as I >> continue to be employed here. >> >> What will happen if my employer drops its Software Assurance agreement or >> I leave my employer? Not that either is likely to happen anytime soon, but >> what if? How would Microsoft even know if I leave my employer? It's not >> that I'm trying to pull a fast one to get Office for cheap, but who can >> predict what may happen in the future? I don't want to get stuck paying >> for Office Enterprise years down the road. > > > The license ends with either of those circumstances. Yes, there's a bit > of a gamble with your non-refundable payment. > >> >> Another question: If I buy a new computer, can I transfer this copy of >> Office to the new computer? > > With SQA or MSDEV licenses you can generally transfer as much as you need > to. It's actually rather expected that you will, if you are doing testing; > this doesn't necessarily mean concurrent installs on multiple machines, > though. > > HTH > -pk > > >> >> Thanks for your help. >> >> Daddy >> > >
Guest Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook] Posted August 8, 2008 Posted August 8, 2008 Re: Software Assurance License Questions The Home Use Program licenses you for one install only and if you need to install it on another computer, you will need to apply to your employer for a second license. -- Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook] Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375 After furious head scratching, Daddy asked: | Since my employer has a Software Assurance agreement with Microsoft, | I am entitled to purchase Microsoft Office for home use at a very | advantageous price. I can only purchase the same version of Office | covered by my employer's Software Assurance agreement, which is | Office Enterprise. This version of Office contains way more software | than I need, but I know that I can install only the components that I | wish to use. | | The advantageous price comes with two 'gotchas' that are actually | quite reasonable: I'm only allowed to use this software for so long | as my employer maintains its Software Assurance agreement and for so | long as I continue to be employed here. | | What will happen if my employer drops its Software Assurance | agreement or I leave my employer? Not that either is likely to happen | anytime soon, but what if? How would Microsoft even know if I leave | my employer? It's not that I'm trying to pull a fast one to get | Office for cheap, but who can predict what may happen in the future? | I don't want to get stuck paying for Office Enterprise years down the | road. | | Another question: If I buy a new computer, can I transfer this copy of | Office to the new computer? | | Thanks for your help. | | Daddy
Guest Daddy Posted August 8, 2008 Posted August 8, 2008 Re: Software Assurance License Questions Thanks for clarifying that, Milly. Seems like the Home Use Program is pretty restricted. Then again, you're only paying a nominal amount for the software. Here's the part of it that concerns me: Let's say I leave my employer next year - not that I plan to. To be in compliance, I have to run out and buy a retail copy of Office to replace the license I am now no longer entitled to use. Fair enough. But how does Microsoft know about all this - how do they know I uninstalled Office Enterprise and replaced it with a retail copy of, say, Office Standard? And why should they even care - they have my credit card information and can always charge me for Office Enterprise if they want. Eventually it will all get sorted out - hopefully - but meanwhile there's this big charge on my credit card. I'm not complaining - "you pays your money and you makes your choice" - but sometimes a bargain is not worth what you may have to go through. Daddy "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" <what@ever> wrote in message news:OWnW1cQ%23IHA.3396@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > The Home Use Program licenses you for one install only and if you need to > install it on another computer, you will need to apply to your employer > for > a second license. > > -- > Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook] > > Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. > How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375 > > > After furious head scratching, Daddy asked: > > | Since my employer has a Software Assurance agreement with Microsoft, > | I am entitled to purchase Microsoft Office for home use at a very > | advantageous price. I can only purchase the same version of Office > | covered by my employer's Software Assurance agreement, which is > | Office Enterprise. This version of Office contains way more software > | than I need, but I know that I can install only the components that I > | wish to use. > | > | The advantageous price comes with two 'gotchas' that are actually > | quite reasonable: I'm only allowed to use this software for so long > | as my employer maintains its Software Assurance agreement and for so > | long as I continue to be employed here. > | > | What will happen if my employer drops its Software Assurance > | agreement or I leave my employer? Not that either is likely to happen > | anytime soon, but what if? How would Microsoft even know if I leave > | my employer? It's not that I'm trying to pull a fast one to get > | Office for cheap, but who can predict what may happen in the future? > | I don't want to get stuck paying for Office Enterprise years down the > | road. > | > | Another question: If I buy a new computer, can I transfer this copy of > | Office to the new computer? > | > | Thanks for your help. > | > | Daddy > >
Guest Bob I Posted August 8, 2008 Posted August 8, 2008 Re: Software Assurance License Questions What you pay for the Home Use Program CD is only "Shipping and handling", about $20 maybe $25 now as it's been awhile. MS wouldn't charge your card or keep your number, too big a liability. And it's up to you and your integrity as to the compliance. Daddy wrote: > Thanks for clarifying that, Milly. > > Seems like the Home Use Program is pretty restricted. Then again, you're > only paying a nominal amount for the software. > > Here's the part of it that concerns me: Let's say I leave my employer next > year - not that I plan to. To be in compliance, I have to run out and buy a > retail copy of Office to replace the license I am now no longer entitled to > use. Fair enough. But how does Microsoft know about all this - how do they > know I uninstalled Office Enterprise and replaced it with a retail copy of, > say, Office Standard? And why should they even care - they have my credit > card information and can always charge me for Office Enterprise if they > want. > > Eventually it will all get sorted out - hopefully - but meanwhile there's > this big charge on my credit card. > > I'm not complaining - "you pays your money and you makes your choice" - but > sometimes a bargain is not worth what you may have to go through. > > Daddy > > "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" <what@ever> wrote in message > news:OWnW1cQ%23IHA.3396@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > >>The Home Use Program licenses you for one install only and if you need to >>install it on another computer, you will need to apply to your employer >>for >>a second license. >> >>-- >>Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook] >> >>Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. >>How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375 >> >> >>After furious head scratching, Daddy asked: >> >>| Since my employer has a Software Assurance agreement with Microsoft, >>| I am entitled to purchase Microsoft Office for home use at a very >>| advantageous price. I can only purchase the same version of Office >>| covered by my employer's Software Assurance agreement, which is >>| Office Enterprise. This version of Office contains way more software >>| than I need, but I know that I can install only the components that I >>| wish to use. >>| >>| The advantageous price comes with two 'gotchas' that are actually >>| quite reasonable: I'm only allowed to use this software for so long >>| as my employer maintains its Software Assurance agreement and for so >>| long as I continue to be employed here. >>| >>| What will happen if my employer drops its Software Assurance >>| agreement or I leave my employer? Not that either is likely to happen >>| anytime soon, but what if? How would Microsoft even know if I leave >>| my employer? It's not that I'm trying to pull a fast one to get >>| Office for cheap, but who can predict what may happen in the future? >>| I don't want to get stuck paying for Office Enterprise years down the >>| road. >>| >>| Another question: If I buy a new computer, can I transfer this copy of >>| Office to the new computer? >>| >>| Thanks for your help. >>| >>| Daddy >> >> > > >
Guest Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook] Posted August 8, 2008 Posted August 8, 2008 Re: Software Assurance License Questions No one can enforce the use of your employer's license if you should leave that employer. It is entirely up to your moral standards and conscience. Please note that I am not making a judgement on either. --� Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook] Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375 After furious head scratching, Daddy asked: | Thanks for clarifying that, Milly. | | Seems like the Home Use Program is pretty restricted. Then again, | you're only paying a nominal amount for the software. | | Here's the part of it that concerns me: Let's say I leave my employer | next year - not that I plan to. To be in compliance, I have to run | out and buy a retail copy of Office to replace the license I am now | no longer entitled to use. Fair enough. But how does Microsoft know | about all this - how do they know I uninstalled Office Enterprise and | replaced it with a retail copy of, say, Office Standard? And why | should they even care - they have my credit card information and can | always charge me for Office Enterprise if they want. | | Eventually it will all get sorted out - hopefully - but meanwhile | there's this big charge on my credit card. | | I'm not complaining - "you pays your money and you makes your choice" | - but sometimes a bargain is not worth what you may have to go | through. | | Daddy | | "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" <what@ever> wrote in message | news:OWnW1cQ%23IHA.3396@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... || The Home Use Program licenses you for one install only and if you || need to install it on another computer, you will need to apply to || your employer for || a second license. || || -- || Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook] || || Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. || How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375 || || || After furious head scratching, Daddy asked: || ||| Since my employer has a Software Assurance agreement with Microsoft, ||| I am entitled to purchase Microsoft Office for home use at a very ||| advantageous price. I can only purchase the same version of Office ||| covered by my employer's Software Assurance agreement, which is ||| Office Enterprise. This version of Office contains way more software ||| than I need, but I know that I can install only the components that ||| I wish to use. ||| ||| The advantageous price comes with two 'gotchas' that are actually ||| quite reasonable: I'm only allowed to use this software for so long ||| as my employer maintains its Software Assurance agreement and for so ||| long as I continue to be employed here. ||| ||| What will happen if my employer drops its Software Assurance ||| agreement or I leave my employer? Not that either is likely to ||| happen anytime soon, but what if? How would Microsoft even know if ||| I leave my employer? It's not that I'm trying to pull a fast one to ||| get Office for cheap, but who can predict what may happen in the ||| future? I don't want to get stuck paying for Office Enterprise ||| years down the road. ||| ||| Another question: If I buy a new computer, can I transfer this copy ||| of Office to the new computer? ||| ||| Thanks for your help. ||| ||| Daddy
Guest Daddy Posted August 8, 2008 Posted August 8, 2008 Re: Software Assurance License Questions Thank you both once again. My father tells me "If you're going to steal may as well do it big time" so I would not risk my reputation for a thousand dollars. :-) I know you're not doubting my integrity. Personally, I have no objection to Microsoft taking strong measures to enforce its licensing agreements. I know others don't feel the same. For example, I have no problem if Microsoft wants to select a random sample of e-mail addresses from time to time to see if someone is still with their employer. In any case, I am certain that Microsoft would allow their customers a reasonable amount of time to bring themselves into compliance, so I'm not going to worry any more. Instead, I'm looking forward to using ribbon menus. Daddy "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" <What@ever> wrote in message news:ujhjaIX%23IHA.544@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... No one can enforce the use of your employer's license if you should leave that employer. It is entirely up to your moral standards and conscience. Please note that I am not making a judgement on either. --� Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook] Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375 After furious head scratching, Daddy asked: | Thanks for clarifying that, Milly. | | Seems like the Home Use Program is pretty restricted. Then again, | you're only paying a nominal amount for the software. | | Here's the part of it that concerns me: Let's say I leave my employer | next year - not that I plan to. To be in compliance, I have to run | out and buy a retail copy of Office to replace the license I am now | no longer entitled to use. Fair enough. But how does Microsoft know | about all this - how do they know I uninstalled Office Enterprise and | replaced it with a retail copy of, say, Office Standard? And why | should they even care - they have my credit card information and can | always charge me for Office Enterprise if they want. | | Eventually it will all get sorted out - hopefully - but meanwhile | there's this big charge on my credit card. | | I'm not complaining - "you pays your money and you makes your choice" | - but sometimes a bargain is not worth what you may have to go | through. | | Daddy | | "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" <what@ever> wrote in message | news:OWnW1cQ%23IHA.3396@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... || The Home Use Program licenses you for one install only and if you || need to install it on another computer, you will need to apply to || your employer for || a second license. || || -- || Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook] || || Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. || How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375 || || || After furious head scratching, Daddy asked: || ||| Since my employer has a Software Assurance agreement with Microsoft, ||| I am entitled to purchase Microsoft Office for home use at a very ||| advantageous price. I can only purchase the same version of Office ||| covered by my employer's Software Assurance agreement, which is ||| Office Enterprise. This version of Office contains way more software ||| than I need, but I know that I can install only the components that ||| I wish to use. ||| ||| The advantageous price comes with two 'gotchas' that are actually ||| quite reasonable: I'm only allowed to use this software for so long ||| as my employer maintains its Software Assurance agreement and for so ||| long as I continue to be employed here. ||| ||| What will happen if my employer drops its Software Assurance ||| agreement or I leave my employer? Not that either is likely to ||| happen anytime soon, but what if? How would Microsoft even know if ||| I leave my employer? It's not that I'm trying to pull a fast one to ||| get Office for cheap, but who can predict what may happen in the ||| future? I don't want to get stuck paying for Office Enterprise ||| years down the road. ||| ||| Another question: If I buy a new computer, can I transfer this copy ||| of Office to the new computer? ||| ||| Thanks for your help. ||| ||| Daddy
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