Guest Jack Posted August 7, 2008 Posted August 7, 2008 I cannot find any ms group related to networking. Any thoughts? Below is the message I posted few days ago to windowsxp.basics group to no response ============ My Windows shows duplicate computer as part of my home network. How to remove it from the list? Also, I have only one workgroup (Home), but on the list there are 2 workgroups: Home and Workgroup. How to remove the Workgroup group from the list? Thanks, Jack
Guest David B. Posted August 7, 2008 Posted August 7, 2008 Re: Which group is good to ask about networking? xp.network_web -- ---- Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message news:emUWVQK%23IHA.3952@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >I cannot find any ms group related to networking. > Any thoughts? > Below is the message I posted few days ago to windowsxp.basics group to no > response > ============ > My Windows shows duplicate computer as part of my home network. > How to remove it from the list? > Also, I have only one workgroup (Home), but on the list there are 2 > workgroups: > Home and Workgroup. > How to remove the Workgroup group from the list? > Thanks, > Jack > >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 7, 2008 Posted August 7, 2008 Re: Which group is good to ask about networking? Yeah, but after what you thought fit to say to in your previous post, you illiterate jerk, I ought to let you go figure it out for yourself. As it is, here's a hint or three: The all have the string "network" in their names, and if they aren't on your ISP's server, you should consider using a better one. Personally, though its management is horrible these days, I use Microsoft's own server. Example: http://news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web http://news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.win98.networking Feel very lucky that you happened to spark my tired mind that the reason Steven couldn't find the VPC group is the same as the reason you can't find yours. They don't exist on your puny ISP's news server. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message news:emUWVQK%23IHA.3952@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >I cannot find any ms group related to networking. > Any thoughts? > Below is the message I posted few days ago to windowsxp.basics group to no > response > ============ > My Windows shows duplicate computer as part of my home network. > How to remove it from the list? > Also, I have only one workgroup (Home), but on the list there are 2 > workgroups: > Home and Workgroup. > How to remove the Workgroup group from the list? > Thanks, > Jack > >
Guest Bob I Posted August 7, 2008 Posted August 7, 2008 Re: Which group is good to ask about networking? Lots of traffic here microsoft.public.win2000.networking Jack wrote: > I cannot find any ms group related to networking. > Any thoughts? > Below is the message I posted few days ago to windowsxp.basics group to no > response > ============ > My Windows shows duplicate computer as part of my home network. > How to remove it from the list? > Also, I have only one workgroup (Home), but on the list there are 2 > workgroups: > Home and Workgroup. > How to remove the Workgroup group from the list? > Thanks, > Jack > >
Guest Jack Posted August 7, 2008 Posted August 7, 2008 Re: Which group is good to ask about networking? You are wrong, very wrong. Why do you think I asked that question???? BECAUSE I COULD NOT SEE ANY RELEVENT GROUP to post. Before asking, I checked all these 'networking' groups. Or are they not active (last not answered posts are dated middle of July) or the name of the group does not sound right to me. Why anyone wouls select Win98 or WinME networking group when using XP? I am not a dummy and not jerk for sure. I just demand a little more effort from someone just the same as I demand it from myself. Hope that explains. And before you call 'jerk' someone first take a big breath!!!! Jack "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:ev7$ncK%23IHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Yeah, but after what you thought fit to say to in your previous post, you > illiterate jerk, I ought to let you go figure it out for yourself. As it > is, here's a hint or three: The all have the string "network" in their > names, and if they aren't on your ISP's server, you should consider using > a better one. Personally, though its management is horrible these days, I > use Microsoft's own server. Example: > http://news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web > http://news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.win98.networking > > Feel very lucky that you happened to spark my tired mind that the reason > Steven couldn't find the VPC group is the same as the reason you can't > find yours. They don't exist on your puny ISP's news server. > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://grystmill.com > > "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message > news:emUWVQK%23IHA.3952@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>I cannot find any ms group related to networking. >> Any thoughts? >> Below is the message I posted few days ago to windowsxp.basics group to >> no response >> ============ >> My Windows shows duplicate computer as part of my home network. >> How to remove it from the list? >> Also, I have only one workgroup (Home), but on the list there are 2 >> workgroups: >> Home and Workgroup. >> How to remove the Workgroup group from the list? >> Thanks, >> Jack >> >> > >
Guest db.·.. > Posted August 7, 2008 Posted August 7, 2008 Re: Which group is good to ask about networking? > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > illiterate jerk, I ought to let you go figure it out for yourself. As it is, such remarks made by a so-called MS-MVP are unjustified and is not indicative of a professional. if you cannot post with professionalism then you should refrain from posting at all - PERIOD. -- db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:ev7$ncK%23IHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Yeah, but after what you thought fit to say to in your previous post, you illiterate jerk, I ought to let you go figure it out for > yourself. As it is, here's a hint or three: The all have the string "network" in their names, and if they aren't on your ISP's > server, you should consider using a better one. Personally, though its management is horrible these days, I use Microsoft's own > server. Example: > http://news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web > http://news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.win98.networking > > Feel very lucky that you happened to spark my tired mind that the reason Steven couldn't find the VPC group is the same as the > reason you can't find yours. They don't exist on your puny ISP's news server. > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://grystmill.com > > "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message news:emUWVQK%23IHA.3952@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>I cannot find any ms group related to networking. >> Any thoughts? >> Below is the message I posted few days ago to windowsxp.basics group to no response >> ============ >> My Windows shows duplicate computer as part of my home network. >> How to remove it from the list? >> Also, I have only one workgroup (Home), but on the list there are 2 workgroups: >> Home and Workgroup. >> How to remove the Workgroup group from the list? >> Thanks, >> Jack >> >> > >
Guest db.·.. > Posted August 7, 2008 Posted August 7, 2008 Re: Which group is good to ask about networking? you should file a complaint on that non professional. -- db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message news:%23oJ0gCL%23IHA.872@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > You are wrong, very wrong. > Why do you think I asked that question???? > BECAUSE I COULD NOT SEE ANY RELEVENT GROUP to post. > Before asking, I checked all these 'networking' groups. > Or are they not active (last not answered posts are dated middle of July) or the name of the group does not sound right to me. > Why anyone wouls select Win98 or WinME networking group when using XP? > > I am not a dummy and not jerk for sure. > I just demand a little more effort from someone just the same as I demand it from myself. > Hope that explains. > And before you call 'jerk' someone first take a big breath!!!! > Jack > > > > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:ev7$ncK%23IHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> Yeah, but after what you thought fit to say to in your previous post, you illiterate jerk, I ought to let you go figure it out >> for yourself. As it is, here's a hint or three: The all have the string "network" in their names, and if they aren't on your >> ISP's server, you should consider using a better one. Personally, though its management is horrible these days, I use Microsoft's >> own server. Example: >> http://news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web >> http://news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.win98.networking >> >> Feel very lucky that you happened to spark my tired mind that the reason Steven couldn't find the VPC group is the same as the >> reason you can't find yours. They don't exist on your puny ISP's news server. >> >> -- >> Gary S. Terhune >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> http://grystmill.com >> >> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message news:emUWVQK%23IHA.3952@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>I cannot find any ms group related to networking. >>> Any thoughts? >>> Below is the message I posted few days ago to windowsxp.basics group to no response >>> ============ >>> My Windows shows duplicate computer as part of my home network. >>> How to remove it from the list? >>> Also, I have only one workgroup (Home), but on the list there are 2 workgroups: >>> Home and Workgroup. >>> How to remove the Workgroup group from the list? >>> Thanks, >>> Jack >>> >>> >> >> > >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 7, 2008 Posted August 7, 2008 Re: Which group is good to ask about networking? I called you a jerk because of your ignorant and rude post to Steven Wabik. But you're worse than a jerk, you're an ignorant a** hole. YOU are the one who said you couldn't find the networking groups. It's the first line in your original post here. I simply responded to that statement and the fact that your headers indicated that you are using an ISP news server, just like Steven (though it would appear he was trying several posting hosts) and most ISP news servers aren't known for carrying more than the major and most popular MS groups. Just because they are near moribund (there's newer stuff out there, remember) doesn't mean the groups are unattended. I happen to know that the networking groups are almost constantly monitored by some of the best network wizards in the business. You just have post your question and wait. It doesn't even really matter which networking group you choose, since those same experts monitor them all. Or post it to the XP General group if you insist on a bunch of irrelevant answers from people who don't know what they're talking about and the *probability* that you'll wait just as long for the correct answer, after *probably* trying a bunch of things no-nothings suggested and making things much worse, turning what is a simple problem into a major disaster. And get this, A**hole! I do this on a purely volunteer basis. You want to make f*&king "demands", you'd better start counting out the Benjamins! Your entire post is full of false statements. You DID say you couldn't find any Windows networking groups, which was a false statement. You claim you're no dummy, which, from where I'm sitting, is a definitely a false statement. Lastly, you claim you're not a jerk. Well, I guess you're right about that, because "jerk" is much too mild a word for you. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message news:%23oJ0gCL%23IHA.872@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > You are wrong, very wrong. > Why do you think I asked that question???? > BECAUSE I COULD NOT SEE ANY RELEVENT GROUP to post. > Before asking, I checked all these 'networking' groups. > Or are they not active (last not answered posts are dated middle of July) > or the name of the group does not sound right to me. > Why anyone wouls select Win98 or WinME networking group when using XP? > > I am not a dummy and not jerk for sure. > I just demand a little more effort from someone just the same as I demand > it from myself. > Hope that explains. > And before you call 'jerk' someone first take a big breath!!!! > Jack > > > > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > news:ev7$ncK%23IHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> Yeah, but after what you thought fit to say to in your previous post, you >> illiterate jerk, I ought to let you go figure it out for yourself. As it >> is, here's a hint or three: The all have the string "network" in their >> names, and if they aren't on your ISP's server, you should consider using >> a better one. Personally, though its management is horrible these days, I >> use Microsoft's own server. Example: >> http://news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web >> http://news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.win98.networking >> >> Feel very lucky that you happened to spark my tired mind that the reason >> Steven couldn't find the VPC group is the same as the reason you can't >> find yours. They don't exist on your puny ISP's news server. >> >> -- >> Gary S. Terhune >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> http://grystmill.com >> >> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message >> news:emUWVQK%23IHA.3952@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>I cannot find any ms group related to networking. >>> Any thoughts? >>> Below is the message I posted few days ago to windowsxp.basics group to >>> no response >>> ============ >>> My Windows shows duplicate computer as part of my home network. >>> How to remove it from the list? >>> Also, I have only one workgroup (Home), but on the list there are 2 >>> workgroups: >>> Home and Workgroup. >>> How to remove the Workgroup group from the list? >>> Thanks, >>> Jack >>> >>> >> >> > >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 7, 2008 Posted August 7, 2008 Re: Which group is good to ask about networking? Where do you suggest he do that? Oh, that's right, you're too ignorant to provide honest and accurate advice to others. Research skills down below the 5% mark, I'd guess. If they even rise above a grade of ZERO! Come on, I dare you. Guide the other ignorant a**hole through the steps required to file a complaint against me. Too bad you won't get anywhere. I'm kinda tired of the MVP label. Not that I'll stop posting here if I don't get the Award this year, I'll just change my sig a bit. You can't do a f*&ing thing to stop my posting here, and I challenge you to prove me wrong. Get me booted from the Microsoft server where my posts originate. Show them this entire thread (but let's be honest, you need to include Steven's thread, too. Heck, collect all my flaming posts you can find over the last ten years and show them to whomever you actually find to talk to. You'll find that Microsoft doesn't care. In fact, in the case of this thread, I suspect I'd get an email commending me on my honesty and forthrightness, while STILL answering the a** hole's questions. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:e570oLL%23IHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > you should file a > complaint on that > non professional. > > -- > > db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> > > "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message > news:%23oJ0gCL%23IHA.872@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> You are wrong, very wrong. >> Why do you think I asked that question???? >> BECAUSE I COULD NOT SEE ANY RELEVENT GROUP to post. >> Before asking, I checked all these 'networking' groups. >> Or are they not active (last not answered posts are dated middle of July) >> or the name of the group does not sound right to me. >> Why anyone wouls select Win98 or WinME networking group when using XP? >> >> I am not a dummy and not jerk for sure. >> I just demand a little more effort from someone just the same as I demand >> it from myself. >> Hope that explains. >> And before you call 'jerk' someone first take a big breath!!!! >> Jack >> >> >> >> >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >> news:ev7$ncK%23IHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>> Yeah, but after what you thought fit to say to in your previous post, >>> you illiterate jerk, I ought to let you go figure it out for yourself. >>> As it is, here's a hint or three: The all have the string "network" in >>> their names, and if they aren't on your ISP's server, you should >>> consider using a better one. Personally, though its management is >>> horrible these days, I use Microsoft's own server. Example: >>> http://news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web >>> http://news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.win98.networking >>> >>> Feel very lucky that you happened to spark my tired mind that the reason >>> Steven couldn't find the VPC group is the same as the reason you can't >>> find yours. They don't exist on your puny ISP's news server. >>> >>> -- >>> Gary S. Terhune >>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>> http://grystmill.com >>> >>> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message >>> news:emUWVQK%23IHA.3952@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>I cannot find any ms group related to networking. >>>> Any thoughts? >>>> Below is the message I posted few days ago to windowsxp.basics group to >>>> no response >>>> ============ >>>> My Windows shows duplicate computer as part of my home >>>> network. >>>> How to remove it from the list? >>>> Also, I have only one workgroup (Home), but on the list there are 2 >>>> workgroups: >>>> Home and Workgroup. >>>> How to remove the Workgroup group from the list? >>>> Thanks, >>>> Jack >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 7, 2008 Posted August 7, 2008 Re: Which group is good to ask about networking? GFY (for the ignorant, then stands for Go F*&k Yourself. You're so far beneath me that you have a hard time licking my boots, let alone that more attractive goal I'm sure you've been eying for months. IOW, no, you can't kiss my a**. You're just not tall enough. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:eDdu2KL%23IHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> Gary S. Terhune >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> illiterate jerk, I ought to let you go figure it out for yourself. As it >> is, > > such remarks made > by a so-called MS-MVP > are unjustified and > is not indicative of > a professional. > > if you cannot post > with professionalism > then you should refrain > from posting at all - PERIOD. > > -- > > db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > news:ev7$ncK%23IHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> Yeah, but after what you thought fit to say to in your previous post, you >> illiterate jerk, I ought to let you go figure it out for yourself. As it >> is, here's a hint or three: The all have the string "network" in their >> names, and if they aren't on your ISP's server, you should consider using >> a better one. Personally, though its management is horrible these days, I >> use Microsoft's own server. Example: >> http://news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web >> http://news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.win98.networking >> >> Feel very lucky that you happened to spark my tired mind that the reason >> Steven couldn't find the VPC group is the same as the reason you can't >> find yours. They don't exist on your puny ISP's news server. >> >> -- >> Gary S. Terhune >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> http://grystmill.com >> >> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message >> news:emUWVQK%23IHA.3952@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>I cannot find any ms group related to networking. >>> Any thoughts? >>> Below is the message I posted few days ago to windowsxp.basics group to >>> no response >>> ============ >>> My Windows shows duplicate computer as part of my home network. >>> How to remove it from the list? >>> Also, I have only one workgroup (Home), but on the list there are 2 >>> workgroups: >>> Home and Workgroup. >>> How to remove the Workgroup group from the list? >>> Thanks, >>> Jack >>> >>> >> >> >
Guest Bill in Co. Posted August 8, 2008 Posted August 8, 2008 Re: Which group is good to ask about networking? Gary S. Terhune wrote: > GFY (for the ignorant, then stands for Go F*&k Yourself. You're so far > beneath me that you have a hard time licking my boots, let alone that more > attractive goal I'm sure you've been eying for months. IOW, no, you can't > kiss my a**. You're just not tall enough. > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://grystmill.com > > " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> > wrote > in message news:eDdu2KL%23IHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> Gary S. Terhune >>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>> illiterate jerk, I ought to let you go figure it out for yourself. As it >>> is, >> >> such remarks made >> by a so-called MS-MVP >> are unjustified and >> is not indicative of >> a professional. >> >> if you cannot post >> with professionalism >> then you should refrain >> from posting at all - PERIOD. Does that apply to you too? Nah, didn't so. What a hypocrite.
Guest Jack Posted August 8, 2008 Posted August 8, 2008 Re: Which group is good to ask about networking? You are really b*head, MVP b*head. Time to retire. By posting it in XP group it implied that I am unable to find XP networking group. The magic word is XP, kapisz? And I am not using ISP news. I am connected directly to news.microsoft.com How much wrong you still can be??? Jack "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:emzI31N%23IHA.5192@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >I called you a jerk because of your ignorant and rude post to Steven Wabik. >But you're worse than a jerk, you're an ignorant a** hole. YOU are the one >who said you couldn't find the networking groups. It's the first line in >your original post here. I simply responded to that statement and the fact >that your headers indicated that you are using an ISP news server, just >like Steven (though it would appear he was trying several posting hosts) >and most ISP news servers aren't known for carrying more than the major and >most popular MS groups. > > Just because they are near moribund (there's newer stuff out there, > remember) doesn't mean the groups are unattended. I happen to know that > the networking groups are almost constantly monitored by some of the best > network wizards in the business. You just have post your question and > wait. It doesn't even really matter which networking group you choose, > since those same experts monitor them all. > > Or post it to the XP General group if you insist on a bunch of irrelevant > answers from people who don't know what they're talking about and the > *probability* that you'll wait just as long for the correct answer, after > *probably* trying a bunch of things no-nothings suggested and making > things much worse, turning what is a simple problem into a major disaster. > > And get this, A**hole! I do this on a purely volunteer basis. You want to > make f*&king "demands", you'd better start counting out the Benjamins! > > Your entire post is full of false statements. You DID say you couldn't > find any Windows networking groups, which was a false statement. You claim > you're no dummy, which, from where I'm sitting, is a definitely a false > statement. Lastly, you claim you're not a jerk. Well, I guess you're right > about that, because "jerk" is much too mild a word for you. > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://grystmill.com > > "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message > news:%23oJ0gCL%23IHA.872@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> You are wrong, very wrong. >> Why do you think I asked that question???? >> BECAUSE I COULD NOT SEE ANY RELEVENT GROUP to post. >> Before asking, I checked all these 'networking' groups. >> Or are they not active (last not answered posts are dated middle of July) >> or the name of the group does not sound right to me. >> Why anyone wouls select Win98 or WinME networking group when using XP? >> >> I am not a dummy and not jerk for sure. >> I just demand a little more effort from someone just the same as I demand >> it from myself. >> Hope that explains. >> And before you call 'jerk' someone first take a big breath!!!! >> Jack >> >> >> >> >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >> news:ev7$ncK%23IHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>> Yeah, but after what you thought fit to say to in your previous post, >>> you illiterate jerk, I ought to let you go figure it out for yourself. >>> As it is, here's a hint or three: The all have the string "network" in >>> their names, and if they aren't on your ISP's server, you should >>> consider using a better one. Personally, though its management is >>> horrible these days, I use Microsoft's own server. Example: >>> http://news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web >>> http://news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.win98.networking >>> >>> Feel very lucky that you happened to spark my tired mind that the reason >>> Steven couldn't find the VPC group is the same as the reason you can't >>> find yours. They don't exist on your puny ISP's news server. >>> >>> -- >>> Gary S. Terhune >>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>> http://grystmill.com >>> >>> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message >>> news:emUWVQK%23IHA.3952@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>I cannot find any ms group related to networking. >>>> Any thoughts? >>>> Below is the message I posted few days ago to windowsxp.basics group to >>>> no response >>>> ============ >>>> My Windows shows duplicate computer as part of my home >>>> network. >>>> How to remove it from the list? >>>> Also, I have only one workgroup (Home), but on the list there are 2 >>>> workgroups: >>>> Home and Workgroup. >>>> How to remove the Workgroup group from the list? >>>> Thanks, >>>> Jack >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 8, 2008 Posted August 8, 2008 Re: Which group is good to ask about networking? How stupid can you be if you are using the MS server and can't find the group microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web? Since your specific desire is a group related to Windows XP, and you know the naming format for XP groups, all you have to do is go to the list of NGs, filter on "windowsxp", scroll to the English part of the list and you have the thing staring you right in the face, along with all the other windowsxp groups. Filtering on the string, "network", will get you a smaller, more interesting list. Yes, I was tired and read the headers in a screwy manner, but really, I just can't fathom anyone using OE and logging on to the MS server directly NOT being able to find the groups you claimed not to be able to find.. It just boggles the mind. And you're still a dick for the rudeness you posted to Steven. Where the f&*k do you, an obviously ignorant peasant, get off telling other people how to post? You can't even come close to half managing it yourself. Both that post and your original in this thread, not to mention your more recent temper tantrum show you for the ignorant a** hole that you are. Hell, you're so illiterate you can't even understand what your own words actually say in English. Which is to be expected from someone who probably takes pride in bad English. Probably a total dropout. Just couldn't manage a passing grade and gave up. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message news:%23Ll%23eWQ%23IHA.4472@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > You are really b*head, MVP b*head. Time to retire. > By posting it in XP group it implied that I am unable to find XP > networking group. > The magic word is XP, kapisz? > And I am not using ISP news. I am connected directly to news.microsoft.com > How much wrong you still can be??? > Jack > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > news:emzI31N%23IHA.5192@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>I called you a jerk because of your ignorant and rude post to Steven >>Wabik. But you're worse than a jerk, you're an ignorant a** hole. YOU are >>the one who said you couldn't find the networking groups. It's the first >>line in your original post here. I simply responded to that statement and >>the fact that your headers indicated that you are using an ISP news >>server, just like Steven (though it would appear he was trying several >>posting hosts) and most ISP news servers aren't known for carrying more >>than the major and most popular MS groups. >> >> Just because they are near moribund (there's newer stuff out there, >> remember) doesn't mean the groups are unattended. I happen to know that >> the networking groups are almost constantly monitored by some of the best >> network wizards in the business. You just have post your question and >> wait. It doesn't even really matter which networking group you choose, >> since those same experts monitor them all. >> >> Or post it to the XP General group if you insist on a bunch of irrelevant >> answers from people who don't know what they're talking about and the >> *probability* that you'll wait just as long for the correct answer, after >> *probably* trying a bunch of things no-nothings suggested and making >> things much worse, turning what is a simple problem into a major >> disaster. >> >> And get this, A**hole! I do this on a purely volunteer basis. You want to >> make f*&king "demands", you'd better start counting out the Benjamins! >> >> Your entire post is full of false statements. You DID say you couldn't >> find *any* Windows networking groups (emphasis mine), which was a false >> statement. You claim you're no dummy, which, from where I'm sitting, is a >> definitely a false statement. Lastly, you claim you're not a jerk. Well, >> I guess you're right about that, because "jerk" is much too mild a word >> for you. >> >> -- >> Gary S. Terhune >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> http://grystmill.com >> >> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message >> news:%23oJ0gCL%23IHA.872@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> You are wrong, very wrong. >>> Why do you think I asked that question???? >>> BECAUSE I COULD NOT SEE ANY RELEVENT GROUP to post. >>> Before asking, I checked all these 'networking' groups. >>> Or are they not active (last not answered posts are dated middle of >>> July) or the name of the group does not sound right to me. >>> Why anyone wouls select Win98 or WinME networking group when using XP? >>> >>> I am not a dummy and not jerk for sure. >>> I just demand a little more effort from someone just the same as I >>> demand it from myself. >>> Hope that explains. >>> And before you call 'jerk' someone first take a big breath!!!! >>> Jack >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >>> news:ev7$ncK%23IHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>> Yeah, but after what you thought fit to say to in your previous post, >>>> you illiterate jerk, I ought to let you go figure it out for yourself. >>>> As it is, here's a hint or three: The all have the string "network" in >>>> their names, and if they aren't on your ISP's server, you should >>>> consider using a better one. Personally, though its management is >>>> horrible these days, I use Microsoft's own server. Example: >>>> http://news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web >>>> http://news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.win98.networking >>>> >>>> Feel very lucky that you happened to spark my tired mind that the >>>> reason Steven couldn't find the VPC group is the same as the reason you >>>> can't find yours. They don't exist on your puny ISP's news server. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Gary S. Terhune >>>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>>> http://grystmill.com >>>> >>>> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message >>>> news:emUWVQK%23IHA.3952@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>I cannot find any ms group related to networking. >>>>> Any thoughts? >>>>> Below is the message I posted few days ago to windowsxp.basics group >>>>> to no response >>>>> ============ >>>>> My Windows shows duplicate computer as part of my home >>>>> network. >>>>> How to remove it from the list? >>>>> Also, I have only one workgroup (Home), but on the list there are 2 >>>>> workgroups: >>>>> Home and Workgroup. >>>>> How to remove the Workgroup group from the list? >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Jack >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
Guest Pegasus \(MVP\) Posted August 8, 2008 Posted August 8, 2008 Re: Which group is good to ask about networking? The tone and language of your replies is doing great damage to the MVP scheme. Please stop it now.
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 8, 2008 Posted August 8, 2008 Re: Which group is good to ask about networking? Sounds like an opinion to me. Go complain to someone who cares. My renomination is coming up soon, and if you can stifle that, then more power to you. This has become a club in which I can only take a diminished amount of pride. It all went downhill as soon as they started calling Windows MVPs "Vista Enthusiasts" and then the coffin got nailed shut when the totally and permanently ignorant Carey Frish finally managed to get the Award. Gotta wonder who's flute he had to toot, or just now much he had to cry to whomever his patron is. The MVP program is getting fuller and fuller with shills, and I'm not interested in belonging to that club. However much respect I may have for a significant number of MVPs, I can't ignore the rest. In fact, if, as according to you, I am doing such harm to the program, it only goes to show how ridiculous it has become. And recent events in my life have opened my eyes to the fact that politically correct, always polite people are dangerous to the health of our society. I ain't gonna play that game anymore. When someone deserves assistance with their Windows system, and I can provide it, I do so in a totally professional manner and am diligent about following up. When the person, wittingly or not, simply happens to be a total jackass, I'm gonna say so. And if you'll notice, I still couldn't refrain from giving the jackass good advice even while he was whining about how I called him out for insulting another user for no good reason, and then *demanding* some sort of professional courtesy when he himself was totally lacking in that trait. Well, until the idiot wakes up, reads what he really wrote and puts the replies he received into context, and then issues some VERY sincere apologies to those whom he has offended. "Vista Enthusiast". I can't believe anyone is so pitiful as to even want to be known as such. Might as well call yourself a Microsoft A** Kissing Shill. More honest, anyway. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message news:eNUCUsT%23IHA.4628@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > The tone and language of your replies is doing great damage > to the MVP scheme. Please stop it now. >
Guest Pegasus \(MVP\) Posted August 8, 2008 Posted August 8, 2008 Re: Which group is good to ask about networking? "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:ODE99PU%23IHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Sounds like an opinion to me. My opinion is irrelevant - it is up to your Lead to decide your MPV status. In the meantime, since you appear to have changed your opinion about the MVP scheme, you might want to omit your MVP credentials from your posts.
Guest db.·.. > Posted August 8, 2008 Posted August 8, 2008 Re: Which group is good to ask about networking? to rescind the MVP status is the appropriate action. -- db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message news:un2g59U%23IHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:ODE99PU%23IHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> Sounds like an opinion to me. > > My opinion is irrelevant - it is up to your Lead to decide your > MPV status. In the meantime, since you appear to have changed > your opinion about the MVP scheme, you might want to omit > your MVP credentials from your posts. >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 8, 2008 Posted August 8, 2008 Re: Which group is good to ask about networking? Go suck an egg, illiterate jerk. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:eAvQLXV%23IHA.1452@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > to rescind the MVP status > is the appropriate action. > > > -- > > db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> > > "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message > news:un2g59U%23IHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >> news:ODE99PU%23IHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> Sounds like an opinion to me. >> >> My opinion is irrelevant - it is up to your Lead to decide your >> MPV status. In the meantime, since you appear to have changed >> your opinion about the MVP scheme, you might want to omit >> your MVP credentials from your posts. >> >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 8, 2008 Posted August 8, 2008 Re: Which group is good to ask about networking? For the moment, I'm an MVP. And I truly am proud of the honor. What I am not proud of is the direction the program has taken in the persons it awards and their activities. So call me a member of the Opposition. If my Lead and the rest who decide these things find that my behavior no longer meets current MVP standards, then I will not expect the Award to be renewed. Until then, I believe I AM doing the "work" of an MVP, assisting numerous persons with their Windows problems. But I won't be treated as some flunkie, I WILL call out jerks on their stupid, rude, behavior, especially when it's aimed at others who are totally innocent. I am also tired of being "politically correct" in my life in general. The world is descending into a morass of incompetence and that pisses me off every where I go, and I've come to the conclusion that it's my place to call them out on it. And, yes, I consider language a weapon, suitable for smacking jerks upside the head in the vain hope that it will somehow impart just the slightest hint of doubt on the smackee's part about their own behavior, cause them to review the facts and, if they have any balls whatsoever, cop to the fact that their own sloppiness with the English language, and their totally rude and pompous behavior is what led to all this misunderstanding. If that somehow does not meet MVP standards, so be it. I've grown tired of meekly accepting such behavior, so I simply don't, anymore. If you're a jerk, I'm gonna say so. And if you graduate to ungrateful, lying a**s hole, I'm going to say that, too. This thread is a perfect example. And if you read it in its entirety, along with the insult the OP hurled at another innocent user, to get the full picture. But my sig is my "uniform", and until I'm mustered out, I will wear it proudly. And even in that event, I will continue to contribute to these groups as I see fit. It's just that I've grown extremely ambivalent about whether my membership in the ranks is renewed or not. There are some incredibly dishonest and dishonorable people amongst the ranks, but there are also some of the finest people in the world also amongst those ranks. So, I've decided to be the person I feel I should be, do and say the things that I think need saying, help others as I can, but with honesty and forthrightness, whichever way that goes, and let the chips fall where they may. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message news:un2g59U%23IHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > news:ODE99PU%23IHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> Sounds like an opinion to me. > > My opinion is irrelevant - it is up to your Lead to decide your > MPV status. In the meantime, since you appear to have changed > your opinion about the MVP scheme, you might want to omit > your MVP credentials from your posts. >
Guest db.·.. > Posted August 8, 2008 Posted August 8, 2008 Gary S. Terhune, Microsofts Worst MVP Gary S. Terhune, Microsofts Worst MVP Microsoft truly has a problem on its hands when it can allow a MVP to verbally abuse its windows customers on microsofts newsgroup servers. Microsoft should be concerned with the integrity of it's Most Valuable Professional program by permitting the indiscretionary award to those who disregard the first rule, professionalism.
Guest db.·.. > Posted August 8, 2008 Posted August 8, 2008 Re: BAD MVP Re: BAD MVP there can be no respect for someone that lacks it. if you had the integrity, you would relinquish the MVP title willingly, instead of whining about having it and the responsibility behind it. -- db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:e39neyX%23IHA.1016@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > For the moment, I'm an MVP. And I truly am proud of the honor. What I am not proud of is the direction the program has taken in > the persons it awards and their activities. So call me a member of the Opposition. If my Lead and the rest who decide these things > find that my behavior no longer meets current MVP standards, then I will not expect the Award to be renewed. > > Until then, I believe I AM doing the "work" of an MVP, assisting numerous persons with their Windows problems. But I won't be > treated as some flunkie, I WILL call out jerks on their stupid, rude, behavior, especially when it's aimed at others who are > totally innocent. I am also tired of being "politically correct" in my life in general. The world is descending into a morass of > incompetence and that pisses me off every where I go, and I've come to the conclusion that it's my place to call them out on it. > And, yes, I consider language a weapon, suitable for smacking jerks upside the head in the vain hope that it will somehow impart > just the slightest hint of doubt on the smackee's part about their own behavior, cause them to review the facts and, if they have > any balls whatsoever, cop to the fact that their own sloppiness with the English language, and their totally rude and pompous > behavior is what led to all this misunderstanding. > > If that somehow does not meet MVP standards, so be it. I've grown tired of meekly accepting such behavior, so I simply don't, > anymore. If you're a jerk, I'm gonna say so. And if you graduate to ungrateful, lying a**s hole, I'm going to say that, too. This > thread is a perfect example. And if you read it in its entirety, along with the insult the OP hurled at another innocent user, to > get the full picture. > > But my sig is my "uniform", and until I'm mustered out, I will wear it proudly. And even in that event, I will continue to > contribute to these groups as I see fit. It's just that I've grown extremely ambivalent about whether my membership in the ranks > is renewed or not. There are some incredibly dishonest and dishonorable people amongst the ranks, but there are also some of the > finest people in the world also amongst those ranks. > > So, I've decided to be the person I feel I should be, do and say the things that I think need saying, help others as I can, but > with honesty and forthrightness, whichever way that goes, and let the chips fall where they may. > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://grystmill.com > > "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message news:un2g59U%23IHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:ODE99PU%23IHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> Sounds like an opinion to me. >> >> My opinion is irrelevant - it is up to your Lead to decide your >> MPV status. In the meantime, since you appear to have changed >> your opinion about the MVP scheme, you might want to omit >> your MVP credentials from your posts. >> > >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 8, 2008 Posted August 8, 2008 Re: Gary S. Terhune, Microsofts Worst MVP Re: Gary S. Terhune, Microsofts Worst MVP Again, you display an incredible amount of ignorance when you say things like that. Don't you *know* how to research and learn? Aren't you even a little ashamed of being such an willfully ignorant ass? -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:Ofx11QY%23IHA.5056@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Microsoft truly has a problem > on its hands when it can allow > a MVP to verbally abuse its > windows customers on > microsofts newsgroup servers. > > Microsoft should be concerned > with the integrity of it's Most Valuable Professional > program by permitting the indiscretionary award to > those who disregard the > first rule, professionalism. > >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 8, 2008 Posted August 8, 2008 Re: BAD MVP Re: BAD MVP IBID. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:e1c%234SY%23IHA.4020@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > there can be no respect > for someone that lacks > it. > > if you had the integrity, > you would relinquish the > MVP title willingly, instead > of whining about having it > and the responsibility > behind it. > -- > > db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> > > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > news:e39neyX%23IHA.1016@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> For the moment, I'm an MVP. And I truly am proud of the honor. What I am >> not proud of is the direction the program has taken in the persons it >> awards and their activities. So call me a member of the Opposition. If my >> Lead and the rest who decide these things find that my behavior no longer >> meets current MVP standards, then I will not expect the Award to be >> renewed. >> >> Until then, I believe I AM doing the "work" of an MVP, assisting numerous >> persons with their Windows problems. But I won't be treated as some >> flunkie, I WILL call out jerks on their stupid, rude, behavior, >> especially when it's aimed at others who are totally innocent. I am also >> tired of being "politically correct" in my life in general. The world is >> descending into a morass of incompetence and that pisses me off every >> where I go, and I've come to the conclusion that it's my place to call >> them out on it. And, yes, I consider language a weapon, suitable for >> smacking jerks upside the head in the vain hope that it will somehow >> impart just the slightest hint of doubt on the smackee's part about their >> own behavior, cause them to review the facts and, if they have any balls >> whatsoever, cop to the fact that their own sloppiness with the English >> language, and their totally rude and pompous behavior is what led to all >> this misunderstanding. >> >> If that somehow does not meet MVP standards, so be it. I've grown tired >> of meekly accepting such behavior, so I simply don't, anymore. If you're >> a jerk, I'm gonna say so. And if you graduate to ungrateful, lying a**s >> hole, I'm going to say that, too. This thread is a perfect example. And >> if you read it in its entirety, along with the insult the OP hurled at >> another innocent user, to get the full picture. >> >> But my sig is my "uniform", and until I'm mustered out, I will wear it >> proudly. And even in that event, I will continue to contribute to these >> groups as I see fit. It's just that I've grown extremely ambivalent about >> whether my membership in the ranks is renewed or not. There are some >> incredibly dishonest and dishonorable people amongst the ranks, but there >> are also some of the finest people in the world also amongst those ranks. >> >> So, I've decided to be the person I feel I should be, do and say the >> things that I think need saying, help others as I can, but with honesty >> and forthrightness, whichever way that goes, and let the chips fall where >> they may. >> >> -- >> Gary S. Terhune >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> http://grystmill.com >> >> "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message >> news:un2g59U%23IHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>> >>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >>> news:ODE99PU%23IHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>> Sounds like an opinion to me. >>> >>> My opinion is irrelevant - it is up to your Lead to decide your >>> MPV status. In the meantime, since you appear to have changed >>> your opinion about the MVP scheme, you might want to omit >>> your MVP credentials from your posts. >>> >> >> >
Guest db.·.. > Posted August 8, 2008 Posted August 8, 2008 Re: Gary S. Terhune, Microsofts Worst MVP Re: Gary S. Terhune, Microsofts Worst MVP look in the mirror and then ask the question. you've embarrassed the MVP program and your abusive words have been posted on servers all over the world. all the people will read your words and believe they come from MICROSOFT. it's one thing to have MVP's use fear mongering, then it it another when they use profanity and abuse. you are no professional, let alone a most valuable professional. and the only one responsible is MICROSOFT for opening its doors to the likes of you via the MVP program. -- db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:OERdrZY%23IHA.4020@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Again, you display an incredible amount of ignorance when you say things like that. Don't you *know* how to research and learn? > Aren't you even a little ashamed of being such an willfully ignorant ass? > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://grystmill.com > > " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:Ofx11QY%23IHA.5056@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> Microsoft truly has a problem >> on its hands when it can allow >> a MVP to verbally abuse its >> windows customers on >> microsofts newsgroup servers. >> >> Microsoft should be concerned >> with the integrity of it's Most Valuable Professional >> program by permitting the indiscretionary award to >> those who disregard the >> first rule, professionalism. >> >> > >
Guest Tom [Pepper] Willett Posted August 8, 2008 Posted August 8, 2008 Re: BAD MVP Re: BAD MVP MS will probably do it for him. " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:e1c%234SY%23IHA.4020@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... : there can be no respect : for someone that lacks : it. : : if you had the integrity, : you would relinquish the : MVP title willingly, instead : of whining about having it : and the responsibility : behind it. : -- : : db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> : : : "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:e39neyX%23IHA.1016@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... : > For the moment, I'm an MVP. And I truly am proud of the honor. What I am not proud of is the direction the program has taken in : > the persons it awards and their activities. So call me a member of the Opposition. If my Lead and the rest who decide these things : > find that my behavior no longer meets current MVP standards, then I will not expect the Award to be renewed. : > : > Until then, I believe I AM doing the "work" of an MVP, assisting numerous persons with their Windows problems. But I won't be : > treated as some flunkie, I WILL call out jerks on their stupid, rude, behavior, especially when it's aimed at others who are : > totally innocent. I am also tired of being "politically correct" in my life in general. The world is descending into a morass of : > incompetence and that pisses me off every where I go, and I've come to the conclusion that it's my place to call them out on it. : > And, yes, I consider language a weapon, suitable for smacking jerks upside the head in the vain hope that it will somehow impart : > just the slightest hint of doubt on the smackee's part about their own behavior, cause them to review the facts and, if they have : > any balls whatsoever, cop to the fact that their own sloppiness with the English language, and their totally rude and pompous : > behavior is what led to all this misunderstanding. : > : > If that somehow does not meet MVP standards, so be it. I've grown tired of meekly accepting such behavior, so I simply don't, : > anymore. If you're a jerk, I'm gonna say so. And if you graduate to ungrateful, lying a**s hole, I'm going to say that, too. This : > thread is a perfect example. And if you read it in its entirety, along with the insult the OP hurled at another innocent user, to : > get the full picture. : > : > But my sig is my "uniform", and until I'm mustered out, I will wear it proudly. And even in that event, I will continue to : > contribute to these groups as I see fit. It's just that I've grown extremely ambivalent about whether my membership in the ranks : > is renewed or not. There are some incredibly dishonest and dishonorable people amongst the ranks, but there are also some of the : > finest people in the world also amongst those ranks. : > : > So, I've decided to be the person I feel I should be, do and say the things that I think need saying, help others as I can, but : > with honesty and forthrightness, whichever way that goes, and let the chips fall where they may. : > : > -- : > Gary S. Terhune : > MS-MVP Shell/User : > http://grystmill.com : > : > "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message news:un2g59U%23IHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... : >> : >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:ODE99PU%23IHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... : >>> Sounds like an opinion to me. : >> : >> My opinion is irrelevant - it is up to your Lead to decide your : >> MPV status. In the meantime, since you appear to have changed : >> your opinion about the MVP scheme, you might want to omit : >> your MVP credentials from your posts. : >> : > : > :
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