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August 8, 2008

Re: Gary S. Terhune, Microsofts Worst MVP

Re: Gary S. Terhune, Microsofts Worst MVP

ROFL! You just crack me up. Setting yourself up as some arbiter of

professionalism. You're a rank, ignorant amateur, with nothing in life to do

besides gnaw on the ankles of your betters like the weasel you are.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://grystmill.com

" db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote

in message news:%23yEgdNZ%23IHA.4196@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> look in the mirror and

> then ask the question.

>

> you've embarrassed the

> MVP program and your

> abusive words have been

> posted on servers all over

> the world.

>

> all the people will read

> your words and believe they

> come from MICROSOFT.

>

> it's one thing to have MVP's

> use fear mongering, then it

> it another when they use

> profanity and abuse.

>

> you are no professional, let

> alone a most valuable professional.

>

> and the only one responsible is

> MICROSOFT for opening its

> doors to the likes of you via

> the MVP program.

> --

>

> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:OERdrZY%23IHA.4020@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> Again, you display an incredible amount of ignorance when you say things

>> like that. Don't you *know* how to research and learn? Aren't you even a

>> little ashamed of being such an willfully ignorant ass?

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://grystmill.com

>>

>> " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com>

>> wrote in message news:Ofx11QY%23IHA.5056@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> Microsoft truly has a problem

>>> on its hands when it can allow

>>> a MVP to verbally abuse its

>>> windows customers on

>>> microsofts newsgroup servers.

>>>

>>> Microsoft should be concerned

>>> with the integrity of it's Most Valuable Professional

>>> program by permitting the indiscretionary award to

>>> those who disregard the

>>> first rule, professionalism.

>>>

>>

>

August 8, 2008

Re: BAD MVP

Re: BAD MVP

Whether they do or they don't is entirely their business. Always has been.

It's not something I have ever strived for, and I've been annually astounded

when the Award notice drops into my inbox.

Award or no Award, you won't see much of a change in my behavior. Nor will

it have any negative affect on the program or its reputation. That's what

the db~Idiot can't comprehend.

I have no regrets about the way I treated Jack. He deserved every bit of it,

the good and the bad.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://grystmill.com

"Tom [Pepper] Willett" <tom@youreadaisyifyoudo.com> wrote in message

news:eU1d3YZ%23IHA.4196@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> MS will probably do it for him.

>

> " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com>

> wrote

> in message news:e1c%234SY%23IHA.4020@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> : there can be no respect

> : for someone that lacks

> : it.

> :

> : if you had the integrity,

> : you would relinquish the

> : MVP title willingly, instead

> : of whining about having it

> : and the responsibility

> : behind it.

> : --

> :

> : db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>

> :

> : "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:e39neyX%23IHA.1016@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> : > For the moment, I'm an MVP. And I truly am proud of the honor. What I

> am

> not proud of is the direction the program has taken in

> : > the persons it awards and their activities. So call me a member of the

> Opposition. If my Lead and the rest who decide these things

> : > find that my behavior no longer meets current MVP standards, then I

> will

> not expect the Award to be renewed.

> : >

> : > Until then, I believe I AM doing the "work" of an MVP, assisting

> numerous persons with their Windows problems. But I won't be

> : > treated as some flunkie, I WILL call out jerks on their stupid, rude,

> behavior, especially when it's aimed at others who are

> : > totally innocent. I am also tired of being "politically correct" in my

> life in general. The world is descending into a morass of

> : > incompetence and that pisses me off every where I go, and I've come to

> the conclusion that it's my place to call them out on it.

> : > And, yes, I consider language a weapon, suitable for smacking jerks

> upside the head in the vain hope that it will somehow impart

> : > just the slightest hint of doubt on the smackee's part about their own

> behavior, cause them to review the facts and, if they have

> : > any balls whatsoever, cop to the fact that their own sloppiness with

> the

> English language, and their totally rude and pompous

> : > behavior is what led to all this misunderstanding.

> : >

> : > If that somehow does not meet MVP standards, so be it. I've grown

> tired

> of meekly accepting such behavior, so I simply don't,

> : > anymore. If you're a jerk, I'm gonna say so. And if you graduate to

> ungrateful, lying a**s hole, I'm going to say that, too. This

> : > thread is a perfect example. And if you read it in its entirety, along

> with the insult the OP hurled at another innocent user, to

> : > get the full picture.

> : >

> : > But my sig is my "uniform", and until I'm mustered out, I will wear it

> proudly. And even in that event, I will continue to

> : > contribute to these groups as I see fit. It's just that I've grown

> extremely ambivalent about whether my membership in the ranks

> : > is renewed or not. There are some incredibly dishonest and

> dishonorable

> people amongst the ranks, but there are also some of the

> : > finest people in the world also amongst those ranks.

> : >

> : > So, I've decided to be the person I feel I should be, do and say the

> things that I think need saying, help others as I can, but

> : > with honesty and forthrightness, whichever way that goes, and let the

> chips fall where they may.

> : >

> : > --

> : > Gary S. Terhune

> : > MS-MVP Shell/User

> : > http://grystmill.com

> : >

> : > "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message

> news:un2g59U%23IHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> : >>

> : >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:ODE99PU%23IHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> : >>> Sounds like an opinion to me.

> : >>

> : >> My opinion is irrelevant - it is up to your Lead to decide your

> : >> MPV status. In the meantime, since you appear to have changed

> : >> your opinion about the MVP scheme, you might want to omit

> : >> your MVP credentials from your posts.

> : >>

> : >

> :

>

August 8, 2008

Re: BAD MVP

Re: BAD MVP

yes, i understand completely:

the mvp program is flawed

and in desperation to meet

its quota, automatically

renews the mvp awards.

what is also understood is

that you don't know how

to say no or press the delete

key when you get the email,

so there is a perception of

obligation.

--

db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:%23EJ2VAa%23IHA.5012@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Whether they do or they don't is entirely their business. Always has been. It's not something I have ever strived for, and I've

> been annually astounded when the Award notice drops into my inbox.

>

> Award or no Award, you won't see much of a change in my behavior. Nor will it have any negative affect on the program or its

> reputation. That's what the db~Idiot can't comprehend.

>

> I have no regrets about the way I treated Jack. He deserved every bit of it, the good and the bad.

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://grystmill.com

>

> "Tom [Pepper] Willett" <tom@youreadaisyifyoudo.com> wrote in message news:eU1d3YZ%23IHA.4196@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> MS will probably do it for him.

>>

>> " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote

>> in message news:e1c%234SY%23IHA.4020@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> : there can be no respect

>> : for someone that lacks

>> : it.

>> :

>> : if you had the integrity,

>> : you would relinquish the

>> : MVP title willingly, instead

>> : of whining about having it

>> : and the responsibility

>> : behind it.

>> : --

>> :

>> : db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>

>> :

>> : "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> news:e39neyX%23IHA.1016@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> : > For the moment, I'm an MVP. And I truly am proud of the honor. What I am

>> not proud of is the direction the program has taken in

>> : > the persons it awards and their activities. So call me a member of the

>> Opposition. If my Lead and the rest who decide these things

>> : > find that my behavior no longer meets current MVP standards, then I will

>> not expect the Award to be renewed.

>> : >

>> : > Until then, I believe I AM doing the "work" of an MVP, assisting

>> numerous persons with their Windows problems. But I won't be

>> : > treated as some flunkie, I WILL call out jerks on their stupid, rude,

>> behavior, especially when it's aimed at others who are

>> : > totally innocent. I am also tired of being "politically correct" in my

>> life in general. The world is descending into a morass of

>> : > incompetence and that pisses me off every where I go, and I've come to

>> the conclusion that it's my place to call them out on it.

>> : > And, yes, I consider language a weapon, suitable for smacking jerks

>> upside the head in the vain hope that it will somehow impart

>> : > just the slightest hint of doubt on the smackee's part about their own

>> behavior, cause them to review the facts and, if they have

>> : > any balls whatsoever, cop to the fact that their own sloppiness with the

>> English language, and their totally rude and pompous

>> : > behavior is what led to all this misunderstanding.

>> : >

>> : > If that somehow does not meet MVP standards, so be it. I've grown tired

>> of meekly accepting such behavior, so I simply don't,

>> : > anymore. If you're a jerk, I'm gonna say so. And if you graduate to

>> ungrateful, lying a**s hole, I'm going to say that, too. This

>> : > thread is a perfect example. And if you read it in its entirety, along

>> with the insult the OP hurled at another innocent user, to

>> : > get the full picture.

>> : >

>> : > But my sig is my "uniform", and until I'm mustered out, I will wear it

>> proudly. And even in that event, I will continue to

>> : > contribute to these groups as I see fit. It's just that I've grown

>> extremely ambivalent about whether my membership in the ranks

>> : > is renewed or not. There are some incredibly dishonest and dishonorable

>> people amongst the ranks, but there are also some of the

>> : > finest people in the world also amongst those ranks.

>> : >

>> : > So, I've decided to be the person I feel I should be, do and say the

>> things that I think need saying, help others as I can, but

>> : > with honesty and forthrightness, whichever way that goes, and let the

>> chips fall where they may.

>> : >

>> : > --

>> : > Gary S. Terhune

>> : > MS-MVP Shell/User

>> : > http://grystmill.com

>> : >

>> : > "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message

>> news:un2g59U%23IHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> : >>

>> : >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> news:ODE99PU%23IHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> : >>> Sounds like an opinion to me.

>> : >>

>> : >> My opinion is irrelevant - it is up to your Lead to decide your

>> : >> MPV status. In the meantime, since you appear to have changed

>> : >> your opinion about the MVP scheme, you might want to omit

>> : >> your MVP credentials from your posts.

>> : >>

>> : >

>> :

>>

>

August 8, 2008

Re: BAD MVP

Re: BAD MVP

The Award and the obligation are two entirely separate subjects, you

clueless cretin.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://grystmill.com

" db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote

in message news:OGfdrTa%23IHA.5192@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> yes, i understand completely:

>

> the mvp program is flawed

> and in desperation to meet

> its quota, automatically

> renews the mvp awards.

>

> what is also understood is

> that you don't know how

> to say no or press the delete

> key when you get the email,

> so there is a perception of

> obligation.

>

> --

>

> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:%23EJ2VAa%23IHA.5012@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> Whether they do or they don't is entirely their business. Always has

>> been. It's not something I have ever strived for, and I've been annually

>> astounded when the Award notice drops into my inbox.

>>

>> Award or no Award, you won't see much of a change in my behavior. Nor

>> will it have any negative affect on the program or its reputation. That's

>> what the db~Idiot can't comprehend.

>>

>> I have no regrets about the way I treated Jack. He deserved every bit of

>> it, the good and the bad.

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://grystmill.com

>>

>> "Tom [Pepper] Willett" <tom@youreadaisyifyoudo.com> wrote in message

>> news:eU1d3YZ%23IHA.4196@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>> MS will probably do it for him.

>>>

>>> " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com>

>>> wrote

>>> in message news:e1c%234SY%23IHA.4020@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> : there can be no respect

>>> : for someone that lacks

>>> : it.

>>> :

>>> : if you had the integrity,

>>> : you would relinquish the

>>> : MVP title willingly, instead

>>> : of whining about having it

>>> : and the responsibility

>>> : behind it.

>>> : --

>>> :

>>> : db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>

>>> :

>>> : "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>>> news:e39neyX%23IHA.1016@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> : > For the moment, I'm an MVP. And I truly am proud of the honor. What

>>> I am

>>> not proud of is the direction the program has taken in

>>> : > the persons it awards and their activities. So call me a member of

>>> the

>>> Opposition. If my Lead and the rest who decide these things

>>> : > find that my behavior no longer meets current MVP standards, then I

>>> will

>>> not expect the Award to be renewed.

>>> : >

>>> : > Until then, I believe I AM doing the "work" of an MVP, assisting

>>> numerous persons with their Windows problems. But I won't be

>>> : > treated as some flunkie, I WILL call out jerks on their stupid,

>>> rude,

>>> behavior, especially when it's aimed at others who are

>>> : > totally innocent. I am also tired of being "politically correct" in

>>> my

>>> life in general. The world is descending into a morass of

>>> : > incompetence and that pisses me off every where I go, and I've come

>>> to

>>> the conclusion that it's my place to call them out on it.

>>> : > And, yes, I consider language a weapon, suitable for smacking jerks

>>> upside the head in the vain hope that it will somehow impart

>>> : > just the slightest hint of doubt on the smackee's part about their

>>> own

>>> behavior, cause them to review the facts and, if they have

>>> : > any balls whatsoever, cop to the fact that their own sloppiness with

>>> the

>>> English language, and their totally rude and pompous

>>> : > behavior is what led to all this misunderstanding.

>>> : >

>>> : > If that somehow does not meet MVP standards, so be it. I've grown

>>> tired

>>> of meekly accepting such behavior, so I simply don't,

>>> : > anymore. If you're a jerk, I'm gonna say so. And if you graduate to

>>> ungrateful, lying a**s hole, I'm going to say that, too. This

>>> : > thread is a perfect example. And if you read it in its entirety,

>>> along

>>> with the insult the OP hurled at another innocent user, to

>>> : > get the full picture.

>>> : >

>>> : > But my sig is my "uniform", and until I'm mustered out, I will wear

>>> it

>>> proudly. And even in that event, I will continue to

>>> : > contribute to these groups as I see fit. It's just that I've grown

>>> extremely ambivalent about whether my membership in the ranks

>>> : > is renewed or not. There are some incredibly dishonest and

>>> dishonorable

>>> people amongst the ranks, but there are also some of the

>>> : > finest people in the world also amongst those ranks.

>>> : >

>>> : > So, I've decided to be the person I feel I should be, do and say the

>>> things that I think need saying, help others as I can, but

>>> : > with honesty and forthrightness, whichever way that goes, and let

>>> the

>>> chips fall where they may.

>>> : >

>>> : > --

>>> : > Gary S. Terhune

>>> : > MS-MVP Shell/User

>>> : > http://grystmill.com

>>> : >

>>> : > "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message

>>> news:un2g59U%23IHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> : >>

>>> : >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>>> news:ODE99PU%23IHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>> : >>> Sounds like an opinion to me.

>>> : >>

>>> : >> My opinion is irrelevant - it is up to your Lead to decide your

>>> : >> MPV status. In the meantime, since you appear to have changed

>>> : >> your opinion about the MVP scheme, you might want to omit

>>> : >> your MVP credentials from your posts.

>>> : >>

>>> : >

>>> :

>>>

>>

>

August 9, 2008

Re: BAD MVP

Re: BAD MVP

yes, they are.

therefore if it is not

obligation,

then the problem

is faulty ego.

btw: since you are apparently

oblivious you may not know

that none of your words and

attacks has caused me any grief -

absolutely none.

instead all you've done is to

reveal your poor character and

humiliate your fellow mvp's and

the mvp organization.

you have proven that the mvp

program is flawed and have

also proven to the newsgroup

readers that there are mvp's

who are not a reliable source

of valued professionals.

i already knew the above, but

you made it into a public fiasco.

--

db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:e$$WbCb%23IHA.1180@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> The Award and the obligation are two entirely separate subjects, you clueless cretin.

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://grystmill.com

>

> " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:OGfdrTa%23IHA.5192@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> yes, i understand completely:

>>

>> the mvp program is flawed

>> and in desperation to meet

>> its quota, automatically

>> renews the mvp awards.

>>

>> what is also understood is

>> that you don't know how

>> to say no or press the delete

>> key when you get the email,

>> so there is a perception of

>> obligation.

>>

>> --

>>

>> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>

>>

>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:%23EJ2VAa%23IHA.5012@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> Whether they do or they don't is entirely their business. Always has been. It's not something I have ever strived for, and I've

>>> been annually astounded when the Award notice drops into my inbox.

>>>

>>> Award or no Award, you won't see much of a change in my behavior. Nor will it have any negative affect on the program or its

>>> reputation. That's what the db~Idiot can't comprehend.

>>>

>>> I have no regrets about the way I treated Jack. He deserved every bit of it, the good and the bad.

>>>

>>> --

>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>> http://grystmill.com

>>>

>>> "Tom [Pepper] Willett" <tom@youreadaisyifyoudo.com> wrote in message news:eU1d3YZ%23IHA.4196@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>> MS will probably do it for him.

>>>>

>>>> " db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote

>>>> in message news:e1c%234SY%23IHA.4020@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>> : there can be no respect

>>>> : for someone that lacks

>>>> : it.

>>>> :

>>>> : if you had the integrity,

>>>> : you would relinquish the

>>>> : MVP title willingly, instead

>>>> : of whining about having it

>>>> : and the responsibility

>>>> : behind it.

>>>> : --

>>>> :

>>>> : db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>

>>>> :

>>>> : "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>>>> news:e39neyX%23IHA.1016@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>> : > For the moment, I'm an MVP. And I truly am proud of the honor. What I am

>>>> not proud of is the direction the program has taken in

>>>> : > the persons it awards and their activities. So call me a member of the

>>>> Opposition. If my Lead and the rest who decide these things

>>>> : > find that my behavior no longer meets current MVP standards, then I will

>>>> not expect the Award to be renewed.

>>>> : >

>>>> : > Until then, I believe I AM doing the "work" of an MVP, assisting

>>>> numerous persons with their Windows problems. But I won't be

>>>> : > treated as some flunkie, I WILL call out jerks on their stupid, rude,

>>>> behavior, especially when it's aimed at others who are

>>>> : > totally innocent. I am also tired of being "politically correct" in my

>>>> life in general. The world is descending into a morass of

>>>> : > incompetence and that pisses me off every where I go, and I've come to

>>>> the conclusion that it's my place to call them out on it.

>>>> : > And, yes, I consider language a weapon, suitable for smacking jerks

>>>> upside the head in the vain hope that it will somehow impart

>>>> : > just the slightest hint of doubt on the smackee's part about their own

>>>> behavior, cause them to review the facts and, if they have

>>>> : > any balls whatsoever, cop to the fact that their own sloppiness with the

>>>> English language, and their totally rude and pompous

>>>> : > behavior is what led to all this misunderstanding.

>>>> : >

>>>> : > If that somehow does not meet MVP standards, so be it. I've grown tired

>>>> of meekly accepting such behavior, so I simply don't,

>>>> : > anymore. If you're a jerk, I'm gonna say so. And if you graduate to

>>>> ungrateful, lying a**s hole, I'm going to say that, too. This

>>>> : > thread is a perfect example. And if you read it in its entirety, along

>>>> with the insult the OP hurled at another innocent user, to

>>>> : > get the full picture.

>>>> : >

>>>> : > But my sig is my "uniform", and until I'm mustered out, I will wear it

>>>> proudly. And even in that event, I will continue to

>>>> : > contribute to these groups as I see fit. It's just that I've grown

>>>> extremely ambivalent about whether my membership in the ranks

>>>> : > is renewed or not. There are some incredibly dishonest and dishonorable

>>>> people amongst the ranks, but there are also some of the

>>>> : > finest people in the world also amongst those ranks.

>>>> : >

>>>> : > So, I've decided to be the person I feel I should be, do and say the

>>>> things that I think need saying, help others as I can, but

>>>> : > with honesty and forthrightness, whichever way that goes, and let the

>>>> chips fall where they may.

>>>> : >

>>>> : > --

>>>> : > Gary S. Terhune

>>>> : > MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>> : > http://grystmill.com

>>>> : >

>>>> : > "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message

>>>> news:un2g59U%23IHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>> : >>

>>>> : >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>>>> news:ODE99PU%23IHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>> : >>> Sounds like an opinion to me.

>>>> : >>

>>>> : >> My opinion is irrelevant - it is up to your Lead to decide your

>>>> : >> MPV status. In the meantime, since you appear to have changed

>>>> : >> your opinion about the MVP scheme, you might want to omit

>>>> : >> your MVP credentials from your posts.

>>>> : >>

>>>> : >

>>>> :

>>>>