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I'm need to move 60 GB of files from one disk to another.

 

The copy command bombs when file names are to long and it takes forever to

find them all and correct the problem.

 

I had a 3rd party backup program but it was on the hard disk that died and

the vendor won't respond so I can reinstall it on a new disk to recover the

data.

 

The files are not compressed... just 60GB's of files.

 

Never used the XP backup program... will it let you do a backup (copy, move,

recover, etc) without compressing the files?

 

What alternatives may exist for moving uncompressed files without having to

worry about file name length?

 

Thanks for any help.

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Guest Pegasus \(MVP\)

Guest Pegasus \(MVP\)

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Re: Will XP Backup copy files Uncompressed to another disk?

 

 

"Mel_3" <Mel3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:07310D18-3745-43A1-822C-95FFD0772958@microsoft.com...

> I'm need to move 60 GB of files from one disk to another.

>

> The copy command bombs when file names are to long and it takes forever to

> find them all and correct the problem.

>

> I had a 3rd party backup program but it was on the hard disk that died and

> the vendor won't respond so I can reinstall it on a new disk to recover

> the

> data.

>

> The files are not compressed... just 60GB's of files.

>

> Never used the XP backup program... will it let you do a backup (copy,

> move,

> recover, etc) without compressing the files?

>

> What alternatives may exist for moving uncompressed files without having

> to

> worry about file name length?

>

> Thanks for any help.

>

 

Can you be a little more specific and explain what exactly you

mean with "The copy command bombs"?

Guest Mel_3

Guest Mel_3

Posted
Posted

Re: Will XP Backup copy files Uncompressed to another disk?

 

- If file names are to long Windows pops up a window and tells me "file name

to long" or some such... I click OK and the copy stops.

- At this point some of the files have copied and some have not...

- There is no way to tell where to "resume" the copy.

- There is no way to tell which file name is to long.

- With thousands of files and folders a search is virtually impossible.

- It could be a combination of path+file name but it doesn't matter... we

have the files on a disk and need to move them to another disk... 60GB worth

:)

- And we want to find a backup utility that will backup complete

folder/directory structures or hard disk without compressing the files.

 

My question is this... Will the Windows XP backup program allow me to backup

(or recover) files without compressing them?

 

Thanks for any help.

 

 

 

"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

>

> "Mel_3" <Mel3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:07310D18-3745-43A1-822C-95FFD0772958@microsoft.com...

> > I'm need to move 60 GB of files from one disk to another.

> >

> > The copy command bombs when file names are to long and it takes forever to

> > find them all and correct the problem.

> >

> > I had a 3rd party backup program but it was on the hard disk that died and

> > the vendor won't respond so I can reinstall it on a new disk to recover

> > the

> > data.

> >

> > The files are not compressed... just 60GB's of files.

> >

> > Never used the XP backup program... will it let you do a backup (copy,

> > move,

> > recover, etc) without compressing the files?

> >

> > What alternatives may exist for moving uncompressed files without having

> > to

> > worry about file name length?

> >

> > Thanks for any help.

> >

>

> Can you be a little more specific and explain what exactly you

> mean with "The copy command bombs"?

>

>

>

Guest Pegasus \(MVP\)

Guest Pegasus \(MVP\)

Posted
Posted

Re: Will XP Backup copy files Uncompressed to another disk?

 

ntbackup.exe supports file+path lengths of up to around 32,000

characters, but so does robocopy.exe Version XP010, which is

far easier to use than ntbackup.exe. You can download it from

the Microsoft site.

 

You should refrain from having such long file/folder names and

place your information into the files themselves.

 

Note that the preferred method for cloning a disk is, well, a

cloning tool. Most disk manufacturers make them available on

their web site free of charge.

 

 

"Mel_3" <Mel3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:2396485B-0298-43FB-AA82-5D2907D11C2C@microsoft.com...

>- If file names are to long Windows pops up a window and tells me "file

>name

> to long" or some such... I click OK and the copy stops.

> - At this point some of the files have copied and some have not...

> - There is no way to tell where to "resume" the copy.

> - There is no way to tell which file name is to long.

> - With thousands of files and folders a search is virtually impossible.

> - It could be a combination of path+file name but it doesn't matter... we

> have the files on a disk and need to move them to another disk... 60GB

> worth

> :)

> - And we want to find a backup utility that will backup complete

> folder/directory structures or hard disk without compressing the files.

>

> My question is this... Will the Windows XP backup program allow me to

> backup

> (or recover) files without compressing them?

>

> Thanks for any help.

>

>

>

> "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

>

>>

>> "Mel_3" <Mel3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:07310D18-3745-43A1-822C-95FFD0772958@microsoft.com...

>> > I'm need to move 60 GB of files from one disk to another.

>> >

>> > The copy command bombs when file names are to long and it takes forever

>> > to

>> > find them all and correct the problem.

>> >

>> > I had a 3rd party backup program but it was on the hard disk that died

>> > and

>> > the vendor won't respond so I can reinstall it on a new disk to recover

>> > the

>> > data.

>> >

>> > The files are not compressed... just 60GB's of files.

>> >

>> > Never used the XP backup program... will it let you do a backup (copy,

>> > move,

>> > recover, etc) without compressing the files?

>> >

>> > What alternatives may exist for moving uncompressed files without

>> > having

>> > to

>> > worry about file name length?

>> >

>> > Thanks for any help.

>> >

>>

>> Can you be a little more specific and explain what exactly you

>> mean with "The copy command bombs"?

>>

>>

>>

Guest Mel_3

Guest Mel_3

Posted
Posted

Re: Will XP Backup copy files Uncompressed to another disk?

 

robocopy is a free Microsoft utility ?

 

"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

> ntbackup.exe supports file+path lengths of up to around 32,000

> characters, but so does robocopy.exe Version XP010, which is

> far easier to use than ntbackup.exe. You can download it from

> the Microsoft site.

>

> You should refrain from having such long file/folder names and

> place your information into the files themselves.

>

> Note that the preferred method for cloning a disk is, well, a

> cloning tool. Most disk manufacturers make them available on

> their web site free of charge.

>

>

> "Mel_3" <Mel3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:2396485B-0298-43FB-AA82-5D2907D11C2C@microsoft.com...

> >- If file names are to long Windows pops up a window and tells me "file

> >name

> > to long" or some such... I click OK and the copy stops.

> > - At this point some of the files have copied and some have not...

> > - There is no way to tell where to "resume" the copy.

> > - There is no way to tell which file name is to long.

> > - With thousands of files and folders a search is virtually impossible.

> > - It could be a combination of path+file name but it doesn't matter... we

> > have the files on a disk and need to move them to another disk... 60GB

> > worth

> > :)

> > - And we want to find a backup utility that will backup complete

> > folder/directory structures or hard disk without compressing the files.

> >

> > My question is this... Will the Windows XP backup program allow me to

> > backup

> > (or recover) files without compressing them?

> >

> > Thanks for any help.

> >

> >

> >

> > "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

> >

> >>

> >> "Mel_3" <Mel3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> >> news:07310D18-3745-43A1-822C-95FFD0772958@microsoft.com...

> >> > I'm need to move 60 GB of files from one disk to another.

> >> >

> >> > The copy command bombs when file names are to long and it takes forever

> >> > to

> >> > find them all and correct the problem.

> >> >

> >> > I had a 3rd party backup program but it was on the hard disk that died

> >> > and

> >> > the vendor won't respond so I can reinstall it on a new disk to recover

> >> > the

> >> > data.

> >> >

> >> > The files are not compressed... just 60GB's of files.

> >> >

> >> > Never used the XP backup program... will it let you do a backup (copy,

> >> > move,

> >> > recover, etc) without compressing the files?

> >> >

> >> > What alternatives may exist for moving uncompressed files without

> >> > having

> >> > to

> >> > worry about file name length?

> >> >

> >> > Thanks for any help.

> >> >

> >>

> >> Can you be a little more specific and explain what exactly you

> >> mean with "The copy command bombs"?

> >>

> >>

> >>

>

>

>

Guest Pegasus \(MVP\)

Guest Pegasus \(MVP\)

Posted
Posted

Re: Will XP Backup copy files Uncompressed to another disk?

 

Yes.

 

"Mel_3" <Mel3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:B7A170CF-B312-4FEB-86D2-13EF9B787A88@microsoft.com...

> robocopy is a free Microsoft utility ?

>

> "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

>

>> ntbackup.exe supports file+path lengths of up to around 32,000

>> characters, but so does robocopy.exe Version XP010, which is

>> far easier to use than ntbackup.exe. You can download it from

>> the Microsoft site.

>>

>> You should refrain from having such long file/folder names and

>> place your information into the files themselves.

>>

>> Note that the preferred method for cloning a disk is, well, a

>> cloning tool. Most disk manufacturers make them available on

>> their web site free of charge.

>>

>>

>> "Mel_3" <Mel3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:2396485B-0298-43FB-AA82-5D2907D11C2C@microsoft.com...

>> >- If file names are to long Windows pops up a window and tells me "file

>> >name

>> > to long" or some such... I click OK and the copy stops.

>> > - At this point some of the files have copied and some have not...

>> > - There is no way to tell where to "resume" the copy.

>> > - There is no way to tell which file name is to long.

>> > - With thousands of files and folders a search is virtually impossible.

>> > - It could be a combination of path+file name but it doesn't matter...

>> > we

>> > have the files on a disk and need to move them to another disk... 60GB

>> > worth

>> > :)

>> > - And we want to find a backup utility that will backup complete

>> > folder/directory structures or hard disk without compressing the files.

>> >

>> > My question is this... Will the Windows XP backup program allow me to

>> > backup

>> > (or recover) files without compressing them?

>> >

>> > Thanks for any help.

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

>> >

>> >>

>> >> "Mel_3" <Mel3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> >> news:07310D18-3745-43A1-822C-95FFD0772958@microsoft.com...

>> >> > I'm need to move 60 GB of files from one disk to another.

>> >> >

>> >> > The copy command bombs when file names are to long and it takes

>> >> > forever

>> >> > to

>> >> > find them all and correct the problem.

>> >> >

>> >> > I had a 3rd party backup program but it was on the hard disk that

>> >> > died

>> >> > and

>> >> > the vendor won't respond so I can reinstall it on a new disk to

>> >> > recover

>> >> > the

>> >> > data.

>> >> >

>> >> > The files are not compressed... just 60GB's of files.

>> >> >

>> >> > Never used the XP backup program... will it let you do a backup

>> >> > (copy,

>> >> > move,

>> >> > recover, etc) without compressing the files?

>> >> >

>> >> > What alternatives may exist for moving uncompressed files without

>> >> > having

>> >> > to

>> >> > worry about file name length?

>> >> >

>> >> > Thanks for any help.

>> >> >

>> >>

>> >> Can you be a little more specific and explain what exactly you

>> >> mean with "The copy command bombs"?

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>>

>>

>>

Guest Mel_3

Guest Mel_3

Posted
Posted

Re: Will XP Backup copy files Uncompressed to another disk?

 

Downloaded Robocopy as part of the Resources Kit Tools... but can't find a

direct link to Robocopy GUI... TechNet takes me to a screen showing 2008,

2008, 2006, when I try to find the download... maybe you can use the site

better than me and help me find a link to the actual GUI download.

 

Thanks for the help Pegasus.

 

Mel_3

 

PS - Never did find out if the standard XP backup program would only backup

to compressed format... or if it would let you backup 'uncompressed' files.

 

 

"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

> Yes.

>

> "Mel_3" <Mel3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:B7A170CF-B312-4FEB-86D2-13EF9B787A88@microsoft.com...

> > robocopy is a free Microsoft utility ?

> >

> > "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

> >

> >> ntbackup.exe supports file+path lengths of up to around 32,000

> >> characters, but so does robocopy.exe Version XP010, which is

> >> far easier to use than ntbackup.exe. You can download it from

> >> the Microsoft site.

> >>

> >> You should refrain from having such long file/folder names and

> >> place your information into the files themselves.

> >>

> >> Note that the preferred method for cloning a disk is, well, a

> >> cloning tool. Most disk manufacturers make them available on

> >> their web site free of charge.

> >>

> >>

> >> "Mel_3" <Mel3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> >> news:2396485B-0298-43FB-AA82-5D2907D11C2C@microsoft.com...

> >> >- If file names are to long Windows pops up a window and tells me "file

> >> >name

> >> > to long" or some such... I click OK and the copy stops.

> >> > - At this point some of the files have copied and some have not...

> >> > - There is no way to tell where to "resume" the copy.

> >> > - There is no way to tell which file name is to long.

> >> > - With thousands of files and folders a search is virtually impossible.

> >> > - It could be a combination of path+file name but it doesn't matter...

> >> > we

> >> > have the files on a disk and need to move them to another disk... 60GB

> >> > worth

> >> > :)

> >> > - And we want to find a backup utility that will backup complete

> >> > folder/directory structures or hard disk without compressing the files.

> >> >

> >> > My question is this... Will the Windows XP backup program allow me to

> >> > backup

> >> > (or recover) files without compressing them?

> >> >

> >> > Thanks for any help.

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

> >> >

> >> >>

> >> >> "Mel_3" <Mel3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> >> >> news:07310D18-3745-43A1-822C-95FFD0772958@microsoft.com...

> >> >> > I'm need to move 60 GB of files from one disk to another.

> >> >> >

> >> >> > The copy command bombs when file names are to long and it takes

> >> >> > forever

> >> >> > to

> >> >> > find them all and correct the problem.

> >> >> >

> >> >> > I had a 3rd party backup program but it was on the hard disk that

> >> >> > died

> >> >> > and

> >> >> > the vendor won't respond so I can reinstall it on a new disk to

> >> >> > recover

> >> >> > the

> >> >> > data.

> >> >> >

> >> >> > The files are not compressed... just 60GB's of files.

> >> >> >

> >> >> > Never used the XP backup program... will it let you do a backup

> >> >> > (copy,

> >> >> > move,

> >> >> > recover, etc) without compressing the files?

> >> >> >

> >> >> > What alternatives may exist for moving uncompressed files without

> >> >> > having

> >> >> > to

> >> >> > worry about file name length?

> >> >> >

> >> >> > Thanks for any help.

> >> >> >

> >> >>

> >> >> Can you be a little more specific and explain what exactly you

> >> >> mean with "The copy command bombs"?

> >> >>

> >> >>

> >> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

>

>

>

Guest Pegasus \(MVP\)

Guest Pegasus \(MVP\)

Posted
Posted

Re: Will XP Backup copy files Uncompressed to another disk?

 

Sorry, I only use the command line version of robocopy. It's no

big deal using it:

 

robocpy /s c: q: *.*

 

To see all available switches, type robocopy /? | more

 

"Mel_3" <Mel3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:1452B5EF-2B2F-4555-A20E-8150D1E06CD5@microsoft.com...

> Downloaded Robocopy as part of the Resources Kit Tools... but can't find a

> direct link to Robocopy GUI... TechNet takes me to a screen showing 2008,

> 2008, 2006, when I try to find the download... maybe you can use the site

> better than me and help me find a link to the actual GUI download.

>

> Thanks for the help Pegasus.

>

> Mel_3

>

> PS - Never did find out if the standard XP backup program would only

> backup

> to compressed format... or if it would let you backup 'uncompressed'

> files.

>

>

> "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

>

>> Yes.

>>

>> "Mel_3" <Mel3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:B7A170CF-B312-4FEB-86D2-13EF9B787A88@microsoft.com...

>> > robocopy is a free Microsoft utility ?

>> >

>> > "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

>> >

>> >> ntbackup.exe supports file+path lengths of up to around 32,000

>> >> characters, but so does robocopy.exe Version XP010, which is

>> >> far easier to use than ntbackup.exe. You can download it from

>> >> the Microsoft site.

>> >>

>> >> You should refrain from having such long file/folder names and

>> >> place your information into the files themselves.

>> >>

>> >> Note that the preferred method for cloning a disk is, well, a

>> >> cloning tool. Most disk manufacturers make them available on

>> >> their web site free of charge.

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> "Mel_3" <Mel3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> >> news:2396485B-0298-43FB-AA82-5D2907D11C2C@microsoft.com...

>> >> >- If file names are to long Windows pops up a window and tells me

>> >> >"file

>> >> >name

>> >> > to long" or some such... I click OK and the copy stops.

>> >> > - At this point some of the files have copied and some have not...

>> >> > - There is no way to tell where to "resume" the copy.

>> >> > - There is no way to tell which file name is to long.

>> >> > - With thousands of files and folders a search is virtually

>> >> > impossible.

>> >> > - It could be a combination of path+file name but it doesn't

>> >> > matter...

>> >> > we

>> >> > have the files on a disk and need to move them to another disk...

>> >> > 60GB

>> >> > worth

>> >> > :)

>> >> > - And we want to find a backup utility that will backup complete

>> >> > folder/directory structures or hard disk without compressing the

>> >> > files.

>> >> >

>> >> > My question is this... Will the Windows XP backup program allow me

>> >> > to

>> >> > backup

>> >> > (or recover) files without compressing them?

>> >> >

>> >> > Thanks for any help.

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> > "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

>> >> >

>> >> >>

>> >> >> "Mel_3" <Mel3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> >> >> news:07310D18-3745-43A1-822C-95FFD0772958@microsoft.com...

>> >> >> > I'm need to move 60 GB of files from one disk to another.

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > The copy command bombs when file names are to long and it takes

>> >> >> > forever

>> >> >> > to

>> >> >> > find them all and correct the problem.

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > I had a 3rd party backup program but it was on the hard disk that

>> >> >> > died

>> >> >> > and

>> >> >> > the vendor won't respond so I can reinstall it on a new disk to

>> >> >> > recover

>> >> >> > the

>> >> >> > data.

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > The files are not compressed... just 60GB's of files.

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > Never used the XP backup program... will it let you do a backup

>> >> >> > (copy,

>> >> >> > move,

>> >> >> > recover, etc) without compressing the files?

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > What alternatives may exist for moving uncompressed files without

>> >> >> > having

>> >> >> > to

>> >> >> > worry about file name length?

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > Thanks for any help.

>> >> >> >

>> >> >>

>> >> >> Can you be a little more specific and explain what exactly you

>> >> >> mean with "The copy command bombs"?

>> >> >>

>> >> >>

>> >> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>>

>>

>>

Guest HeyBub

Guest HeyBub

Posted
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Re: Will XP Backup copy files Uncompressed to another disk?

 

Mel_3 wrote:

> I'm need to move 60 GB of files from one disk to another.

>

> The copy command bombs when file names are to long and it takes

> forever to find them all and correct the problem.

>

> I had a 3rd party backup program but it was on the hard disk that

> died and the vendor won't respond so I can reinstall it on a new disk

> to recover the data.

>

> The files are not compressed... just 60GB's of files.

>

> Never used the XP backup program... will it let you do a backup

> (copy, move, recover, etc) without compressing the files?

>

> What alternatives may exist for moving uncompressed files without

> having to worry about file name length?

>

> Thanks for any help.

 

COPY C:\MYFOLDER\MY FILE.DOC D:\HERE\MY FILE.DOC

 

is a way different command than

 

COPY "C:\MYFOLDER\MY FILE.DOC" "D:\HERE\MY FILE.DOC"

Guest Pegasus \(MVP\)

Guest Pegasus \(MVP\)

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"HeyBub" <heybub@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:O9iPbMN%23IHA.528@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> Mel_3 wrote:

>> I'm need to move 60 GB of files from one disk to another.

>>

>> The copy command bombs when file names are to long and it takes

>> forever to find them all and correct the problem.

>>

>> I had a 3rd party backup program but it was on the hard disk that

>> died and the vendor won't respond so I can reinstall it on a new disk

>> to recover the data.

>>

>> The files are not compressed... just 60GB's of files.

>>

>> Never used the XP backup program... will it let you do a backup

>> (copy, move, recover, etc) without compressing the files?

>>

>> What alternatives may exist for moving uncompressed files without

>> having to worry about file name length?

>>

>> Thanks for any help.

>

> COPY C:\MYFOLDER\MY FILE.DOC D:\HERE\MY FILE.DOC

>

> is a way different command than

>

> COPY "C:\MYFOLDER\MY FILE.DOC" "D:\HERE\MY FILE.DOC"

 

The issue you touch on relates to file/folder names with embedded

spaces. It has nothing to do with the OP's issue of excessively long

file+folder names.

Guest Mel_3

Guest Mel_3

Posted
Posted

Re: Will XP Backup copy files Uncompressed to another disk?

 

In what way is it different? I see the quote marks but didn't think you could

do that at the command line. Thanks for any education.

 

 

"HeyBub" wrote:

> Mel_3 wrote:

> > I'm need to move 60 GB of files from one disk to another.

> >

> > The copy command bombs when file names are to long and it takes

> > forever to find them all and correct the problem.

> >

> > I had a 3rd party backup program but it was on the hard disk that

> > died and the vendor won't respond so I can reinstall it on a new disk

> > to recover the data.

> >

> > The files are not compressed... just 60GB's of files.

> >

> > Never used the XP backup program... will it let you do a backup

> > (copy, move, recover, etc) without compressing the files?

> >

> > What alternatives may exist for moving uncompressed files without

> > having to worry about file name length?

> >

> > Thanks for any help.

>

> COPY C:\MYFOLDER\MY FILE.DOC D:\HERE\MY FILE.DOC

>

> is a way different command than

>

> COPY "C:\MYFOLDER\MY FILE.DOC" "D:\HERE\MY FILE.DOC"

>

>

>

Guest Donald Anadell

Guest Donald Anadell

Posted
Posted

Re: Will XP Backup copy files Uncompressed to another disk?

 

 

"Mel_3" <Mel3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:1452B5EF-2B2F-4555-A20E-8150D1E06CD5@microsoft.com...

> Downloaded Robocopy as part of the Resources Kit Tools... but can't find a

> direct link to Robocopy GUI... TechNet takes me to a screen showing 2008,

> 2008, 2006, when I try to find the download... maybe you can use the site

> better than me and help me find a link to the actual GUI download.

 

You should be able to download RoboCopy GUI using this link:

http://download.microsoft.com/download/f/d/0/fd05def7-68a1-4f71-8546-25c359cc0842/UtilitySpotlight2006_11.exe

Keep in mind that you must have Microsoft .NET Framework version 2.0

installed prior to installing RoboCopy GUI.

 

Good luck,

 

Donald Anadell

 

 

>

> Thanks for the help Pegasus.

>

> Mel_3

>

> PS - Never did find out if the standard XP backup program would only

> backup

> to compressed format... or if it would let you backup 'uncompressed'

> files.

>

>

> "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

>

>> Yes.

>>

>> "Mel_3" <Mel3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:B7A170CF-B312-4FEB-86D2-13EF9B787A88@microsoft.com...

>> > robocopy is a free Microsoft utility ?

>> >

>> > "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

>> >

>> >> ntbackup.exe supports file+path lengths of up to around 32,000

>> >> characters, but so does robocopy.exe Version XP010, which is

>> >> far easier to use than ntbackup.exe. You can download it from

>> >> the Microsoft site.

>> >>

>> >> You should refrain from having such long file/folder names and

>> >> place your information into the files themselves.

>> >>

>> >> Note that the preferred method for cloning a disk is, well, a

>> >> cloning tool. Most disk manufacturers make them available on

>> >> their web site free of charge.

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> "Mel_3" <Mel3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> >> news:2396485B-0298-43FB-AA82-5D2907D11C2C@microsoft.com...

>> >> >- If file names are to long Windows pops up a window and tells me

>> >> >"file

>> >> >name

>> >> > to long" or some such... I click OK and the copy stops.

>> >> > - At this point some of the files have copied and some have not...

>> >> > - There is no way to tell where to "resume" the copy.

>> >> > - There is no way to tell which file name is to long.

>> >> > - With thousands of files and folders a search is virtually

>> >> > impossible.

>> >> > - It could be a combination of path+file name but it doesn't

>> >> > matter...

>> >> > we

>> >> > have the files on a disk and need to move them to another disk...

>> >> > 60GB

>> >> > worth

>> >> > :)

>> >> > - And we want to find a backup utility that will backup complete

>> >> > folder/directory structures or hard disk without compressing the

>> >> > files.

>> >> >

>> >> > My question is this... Will the Windows XP backup program allow me

>> >> > to

>> >> > backup

>> >> > (or recover) files without compressing them?

>> >> >

>> >> > Thanks for any help.

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> > "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

>> >> >

>> >> >>

>> >> >> "Mel_3" <Mel3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> >> >> news:07310D18-3745-43A1-822C-95FFD0772958@microsoft.com...

>> >> >> > I'm need to move 60 GB of files from one disk to another.

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > The copy command bombs when file names are to long and it takes

>> >> >> > forever

>> >> >> > to

>> >> >> > find them all and correct the problem.

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > I had a 3rd party backup program but it was on the hard disk that

>> >> >> > died

>> >> >> > and

>> >> >> > the vendor won't respond so I can reinstall it on a new disk to

>> >> >> > recover

>> >> >> > the

>> >> >> > data.

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > The files are not compressed... just 60GB's of files.

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > Never used the XP backup program... will it let you do a backup

>> >> >> > (copy,

>> >> >> > move,

>> >> >> > recover, etc) without compressing the files?

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > What alternatives may exist for moving uncompressed files without

>> >> >> > having

>> >> >> > to

>> >> >> > worry about file name length?

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > Thanks for any help.

>> >> >> >

>> >> >>

>> >> >> Can you be a little more specific and explain what exactly you

>> >> >> mean with "The copy command bombs"?

>> >> >>

>> >> >>

>> >> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>>

>>

>>

Guest Pegasus \(MVP\)

Guest Pegasus \(MVP\)

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"Mel_3" <Mel3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:8A7F4339-477C-449A-80A5-B2FE9A0313F7@microsoft.com...

> In what way is it different? I see the quote marks but didn't think you

> could

> do that at the command line. Thanks for any education.

 

You can always surround your folder/file names with double

quotes when working at the Command Prompt. You MUST

do it when the folder/file name contains embedded spaces.

Guest HeyBub

Guest HeyBub

Posted
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Mel_3 wrote:

> In what way is it different? I see the quote marks but didn't think

> you could do that at the command line. Thanks for any education.

 

How does copy parse?

COPY MY FILE JONES

 

It thinks to itself:

1. Get ready to find the file "MY",

2. Then get ready to copy and rename it to "FILE"

3. WTF is "JONES"?

4. Display "The syntax of the command is illegal"

5. Go away.

 

Command line parameters are delimited by the SPACE character. However, any

SPACES within double-quotes are ignored when looking for the parameter

delimiters.

Guest Twayne

Guest Twayne

Posted
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Re: Will XP Backup copy files Uncompressed to another disk?

 

> I'm need to move 60 GB of files from one disk to another.

>

> The copy command bombs when file names are to long and it takes

> forever to find them all and correct the problem.

>

> I had a 3rd party backup program but it was on the hard disk that

> died and the vendor won't respond so I can reinstall it on a new disk

> to recover the data.

>

> The files are not compressed... just 60GB's of files.

>

> Never used the XP backup program... will it let you do a backup

> (copy, move, recover, etc) without compressing the files?

 

Yes. One of the complaints about ntbackup in fact, is that it won't

compress the backups. They will however all be in one file, exactly as

any backup would be. And long filenames aren't a problem; you just give

it permission to sort them out when asked.

>

> What alternatives may exist for moving uncompressed files without

> having to worry about file name length?

 

If you're just looking to simply copy files, have a look at either xcopy

or xxcopy, an xcopy superset located at xxcopy.com.

 

Hope I understood what you need.

 

>

> Thanks for any help.

Guest Mel_3

Guest Mel_3

Posted
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How can I check which version of the .NET Framework I have on an XP PC ?

Thanks.

 

"Donald Anadell" wrote:

>

> "Mel_3" <Mel3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:1452B5EF-2B2F-4555-A20E-8150D1E06CD5@microsoft.com...

> > Downloaded Robocopy as part of the Resources Kit Tools... but can't find a

> > direct link to Robocopy GUI... TechNet takes me to a screen showing 2008,

> > 2008, 2006, when I try to find the download... maybe you can use the site

> > better than me and help me find a link to the actual GUI download.

>

> You should be able to download RoboCopy GUI using this link:

> http://download.microsoft.com/download/f/d/0/fd05def7-68a1-4f71-8546-25c359cc0842/UtilitySpotlight2006_11.exe

> Keep in mind that you must have Microsoft .NET Framework version 2.0

> installed prior to installing RoboCopy GUI.

>

> Good luck,

>

> Donald Anadell

>

>

>

> >

> > Thanks for the help Pegasus.

> >

> > Mel_3

> >

> > PS - Never did find out if the standard XP backup program would only

> > backup

> > to compressed format... or if it would let you backup 'uncompressed'

> > files.

> >

> >

> > "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

> >

> >> Yes.

> >>

> >> "Mel_3" <Mel3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> >> news:B7A170CF-B312-4FEB-86D2-13EF9B787A88@microsoft.com...

> >> > robocopy is a free Microsoft utility ?

> >> >

> >> > "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

> >> >

> >> >> ntbackup.exe supports file+path lengths of up to around 32,000

> >> >> characters, but so does robocopy.exe Version XP010, which is

> >> >> far easier to use than ntbackup.exe. You can download it from

> >> >> the Microsoft site.

> >> >>

> >> >> You should refrain from having such long file/folder names and

> >> >> place your information into the files themselves.

> >> >>

> >> >> Note that the preferred method for cloning a disk is, well, a

> >> >> cloning tool. Most disk manufacturers make them available on

> >> >> their web site free of charge.

> >> >>

> >> >>

> >> >> "Mel_3" <Mel3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> >> >> news:2396485B-0298-43FB-AA82-5D2907D11C2C@microsoft.com...

> >> >> >- If file names are to long Windows pops up a window and tells me

> >> >> >"file

> >> >> >name

> >> >> > to long" or some such... I click OK and the copy stops.

> >> >> > - At this point some of the files have copied and some have not...

> >> >> > - There is no way to tell where to "resume" the copy.

> >> >> > - There is no way to tell which file name is to long.

> >> >> > - With thousands of files and folders a search is virtually

> >> >> > impossible.

> >> >> > - It could be a combination of path+file name but it doesn't

> >> >> > matter...

> >> >> > we

> >> >> > have the files on a disk and need to move them to another disk...

> >> >> > 60GB

> >> >> > worth

> >> >> > :)

> >> >> > - And we want to find a backup utility that will backup complete

> >> >> > folder/directory structures or hard disk without compressing the

> >> >> > files.

> >> >> >

> >> >> > My question is this... Will the Windows XP backup program allow me

> >> >> > to

> >> >> > backup

> >> >> > (or recover) files without compressing them?

> >> >> >

> >> >> > Thanks for any help.

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> > "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

> >> >> >

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> "Mel_3" <Mel3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> >> >> >> news:07310D18-3745-43A1-822C-95FFD0772958@microsoft.com...

> >> >> >> > I'm need to move 60 GB of files from one disk to another.

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > The copy command bombs when file names are to long and it takes

> >> >> >> > forever

> >> >> >> > to

> >> >> >> > find them all and correct the problem.

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > I had a 3rd party backup program but it was on the hard disk that

> >> >> >> > died

> >> >> >> > and

> >> >> >> > the vendor won't respond so I can reinstall it on a new disk to

> >> >> >> > recover

> >> >> >> > the

> >> >> >> > data.

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > The files are not compressed... just 60GB's of files.

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > Never used the XP backup program... will it let you do a backup

> >> >> >> > (copy,

> >> >> >> > move,

> >> >> >> > recover, etc) without compressing the files?

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > What alternatives may exist for moving uncompressed files without

> >> >> >> > having

> >> >> >> > to

> >> >> >> > worry about file name length?

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > Thanks for any help.

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> Can you be a little more specific and explain what exactly you

> >> >> >> mean with "The copy command bombs"?

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >>

> >> >>

> >> >>

> >> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

>

>

>

Guest Mel_3

Guest Mel_3

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Re: Will XP Backup copy files Uncompressed to another disk?

 

Who produces xcopy or xxcopy? I got stuck in this when I used a neat backup

program I acquired on line... but after they were paid they no longer

responded to help request.

 

What we liked about that program is we could instruct it to simply copy the

hard disk or desired folders/directories to another disk... so they all

remained seperate files in their respective folders... they were not all put

into one big 'backup' file... Since disk space is so inexpensive we selected

to just have the daily backups done that way for easy access/use from any PC.

 

Thanks again for the help.

 

 

 

"Twayne" wrote:

> > I'm need to move 60 GB of files from one disk to another.

> >

> > The copy command bombs when file names are to long and it takes

> > forever to find them all and correct the problem.

> >

> > I had a 3rd party backup program but it was on the hard disk that

> > died and the vendor won't respond so I can reinstall it on a new disk

> > to recover the data.

> >

> > The files are not compressed... just 60GB's of files.

> >

> > Never used the XP backup program... will it let you do a backup

> > (copy, move, recover, etc) without compressing the files?

>

> Yes. One of the complaints about ntbackup in fact, is that it won't

> compress the backups. They will however all be in one file, exactly as

> any backup would be. And long filenames aren't a problem; you just give

> it permission to sort them out when asked.

>

> >

> > What alternatives may exist for moving uncompressed files without

> > having to worry about file name length?

>

> If you're just looking to simply copy files, have a look at either xcopy

> or xxcopy, an xcopy superset located at xxcopy.com.

>

> Hope I understood what you need.

>

>

> >

> > Thanks for any help.

>

>

>

>

Guest Jim

Guest Jim

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Re: Will XP Backup copy files Uncompressed to another disk?

 

 

"Mel_3" <Mel3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:2C773E62-E1E9-40E4-A8FD-6D044377CC65@microsoft.com...

> Who produces xcopy or xxcopy? I got stuck in this when I used a neat

> backup

> program I acquired on line... but after they were paid they no longer

> responded to help request.

>

> What we liked about that program is we could instruct it to simply copy

> the

> hard disk or desired folders/directories to another disk... so they all

> remained seperate files in their respective folders... they were not all

> put

> into one big 'backup' file... Since disk space is so inexpensive we

> selected

> to just have the daily backups done that way for easy access/use from any

> PC.

>

> Thanks again for the help.

>

>

>

> "Twayne" wrote:

>

>> > I'm need to move 60 GB of files from one disk to another.

>> >

>> > The copy command bombs when file names are to long and it takes

>> > forever to find them all and correct the problem.

>> >

>> > I had a 3rd party backup program but it was on the hard disk that

>> > died and the vendor won't respond so I can reinstall it on a new disk

>> > to recover the data.

>> >

>> > The files are not compressed... just 60GB's of files.

>> >

>> > Never used the XP backup program... will it let you do a backup

>> > (copy, move, recover, etc) without compressing the files?

>>

>> Yes. One of the complaints about ntbackup in fact, is that it won't

>> compress the backups. They will however all be in one file, exactly as

>> any backup would be. And long filenames aren't a problem; you just give

>> it permission to sort them out when asked.

>>

>> >

>> > What alternatives may exist for moving uncompressed files without

>> > having to worry about file name length?

>>

>> If you're just looking to simply copy files, have a look at either xcopy

>> or xxcopy, an xcopy superset located at xxcopy.com.

>>

>> Hope I understood what you need.

>>

>>

>> >

>> > Thanks for any help.

>>

>>

>>

>>

MS supports xcopy. I don't know about xxcopy.

Help & Support has a description of how to use xcopy.

Jim

Guest Ken Blake, MVP

Guest Ken Blake, MVP

Posted
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Re: Will XP Backup copy files Uncompressed to another disk?

 

On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 06:59:01 -0700, Mel_3

<Mel3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> How can I check which version of the .NET Framework I have on an XP PC ?

 

 

You should, and probably do, have more than one version. Different

programs written with different versions of .net need different

versions of the .net framework.

 

But in general, there's no need to worry about this at all. If you try

to run a program that needs a particular version and you don't have

it, the program will let you know, and you can download it then.

 

--

Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

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Guest Pegasus \(MVP\)

Guest Pegasus \(MVP\)

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"Mel_3" <Mel3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:2C773E62-E1E9-40E4-A8FD-6D044377CC65@microsoft.com...

> Who produces xcopy or xxcopy? I got stuck in this when I used a neat

> backup

> program I acquired on line... but after they were paid they no longer

> responded to help request.

>

> What we liked about that program is we could instruct it to simply copy

> the

> hard disk or desired folders/directories to another disk... so they all

> remained seperate files in their respective folders... they were not all

> put

> into one big 'backup' file... Since disk space is so inexpensive we

> selected

> to just have the daily backups done that way for easy access/use from any

> PC.

>

> Thanks again for the help.

 

MS does not only support xcopy.exe, as Jim suggests, it is

actually a native Windows command.

 

xxcopy.exe is a third-party command. Type this line into a

Google search window to find its author:

download xxcopy.exe

 

These days robocopy.exe is the preferred command for copying

large amounts of information. However, it will not copy files that

are currently locked (e.g. registry files).

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