Guest JN Posted August 8, 2008 Posted August 8, 2008 Even when I am not on the network my roaming profile tries to load on my laptop when I logon. I get the error: "Windows cannot locate the server copy of your roaming profile and is attempting to log you on with your local profile. Changes to the profile will not be copied to the server when you logoff. Possible causes of this error include network problems or insufficient security rights. If this problem persists, contact your network administrator. " XP can't seem to detect that the computer is at some other location and tries to load the roaming profile. Is there a way to stop it from trying to load the profile when not on the domain?
Guest The Real Truth MVP Posted August 8, 2008 Posted August 8, 2008 Re: Roaming Profile still tries to load off network Windows did detect that you are not on your network which is why you got that message. Try logging in with the network cable unplugged. -- Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's been obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me. "JN" <me@here.com> wrote in message news:uCZVyhP%23IHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Even when I am not on the network my roaming profile tries to load on my > laptop when I logon. I get the error: > > "Windows cannot locate the server copy of your roaming profile and is > attempting to log you on with your local profile. Changes to the profile > will not be copied to the server when you logoff. Possible causes of this > error include network problems or insufficient security rights. If this > problem persists, contact your network administrator. " > > XP can't seem to detect that the computer is at some other location and > tries to load the roaming profile. Is there a way to stop it from trying > to load the profile when not on the domain? > > > >
Guest JN Posted August 8, 2008 Posted August 8, 2008 Re: Roaming Profile still tries to load off network That is not exactly how it is supposed to work. If it were you would see laptop and remote workers going crazy. When you logon, the computer knows that it is using cached credentials first, so it should not be trying to load a roaming profile if it already knows it is working from the cache. I have other units working properly. Just this one unit is giving me a problem. "The Real Truth MVP" <toidi@tpap.com> wrote in message news:v0Omk.9723$L_.8307@flpi150.ffdc.sbc.com... > Windows did detect that you are not on your network which is why you got > that message. Try logging in with the network cable unplugged. > > > > -- > Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's been > obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me. > > > > > "JN" <me@here.com> wrote in message > news:uCZVyhP%23IHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> Even when I am not on the network my roaming profile tries to load on my >> laptop when I logon. I get the error: >> >> "Windows cannot locate the server copy of your roaming profile and is >> attempting to log you on with your local profile. Changes to the profile >> will not be copied to the server when you logoff. Possible causes of this >> error include network problems or insufficient security rights. If this >> problem persists, contact your network administrator. " >> >> XP can't seem to detect that the computer is at some other location and >> tries to load the roaming profile. Is there a way to stop it from trying >> to load the profile when not on the domain? >> >> >> >> > >
Guest The Real Truth MVP Posted August 8, 2008 Posted August 8, 2008 Re: Roaming Profile still tries to load off network When you boot the computer during the boot sequence if it does not detect an active network it will use cache credentials. If it detects any type of active connection it will try to use that connection for domain authentication. -- Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's been obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me. "JN" <me@here.com> wrote in message news:%23bNw8GQ%23IHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > That is not exactly how it is supposed to work. If it were you would see > laptop and remote workers going crazy. When you logon, the computer knows > that it is using cached credentials first, so it should not be trying to > load a roaming profile if it already knows it is working from the cache. > > I have other units working properly. Just this one unit is giving me a > problem. > > > "The Real Truth MVP" <toidi@tpap.com> wrote in message > news:v0Omk.9723$L_.8307@flpi150.ffdc.sbc.com... >> Windows did detect that you are not on your network which is why you got >> that message. Try logging in with the network cable unplugged. >> >> >> >> -- >> Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's >> been >> obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me. >> >> >> >> >> "JN" <me@here.com> wrote in message >> news:uCZVyhP%23IHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>> Even when I am not on the network my roaming profile tries to load on my >>> laptop when I logon. I get the error: >>> >>> "Windows cannot locate the server copy of your roaming profile and is >>> attempting to log you on with your local profile. Changes to the profile >>> will not be copied to the server when you logoff. Possible causes of >>> this error include network problems or insufficient security rights. If >>> this problem persists, contact your network administrator. " >>> >>> XP can't seem to detect that the computer is at some other location and >>> tries to load the roaming profile. Is there a way to stop it from >>> trying to load the profile when not on the domain? >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > >
Guest Leythos Posted August 8, 2008 Posted August 8, 2008 Re: Roaming Profile still tries to load off network In article <9zQmk.35242$ZE5.22573@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com>, toidi@tpap.com says... > Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's been > obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me. > Stop stalking me with your posts, it's illegal. Do you really want to trust someone that was banned from posting directly to Microsoft Usenet servers, someone that has posted links to pornographic materials on HIS WEBSITE, who's website is in the MVP HOST Block list, and who provides a tool for your use that will block access to reputable anti-malware sites without telling you he's doing it? And do you really want to trust someone that has had to change their posting identity after being busted by MS as a fake MVP? -- - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist" spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
Guest JN Posted August 8, 2008 Posted August 8, 2008 Re: Roaming Profile still tries to load off network No, that is not what is supposed to happen. The computer boots and rather quickly the computer can see if it is on a domain because the system tries to authenticate the computer even before you logon. This is why you see events that the computer can't find the domain controller in the event logs even before you logon to the computer when you are off the domain. This is also how the computer knows to used the cached credentials and does so very quickly istead of sitting at the logon prompt for about a minute after you enter your password. As long as I am not super speedy and enter my password a millisecond after the prompt is available the computer should already realize it is off the domain, which it did and you can tell it did because it fell back to cached credentials. Now since the computer already knows that I am off the domain because it already failed a check for itself and fell back to using cached credentials it should (and does for other computers I have) used the local copy of the profile without trying to get it from the server. Mine is not. Even if I turn off the wireless and disable the onboard NIC I still get the same issue. "The Real Truth MVP" <toidi@tpap.com> wrote in message news:9zQmk.35242$ZE5.22573@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com... > When you boot the computer during the boot sequence if it does not detect > an active network it will use cache credentials. If it detects any type of > active connection it will try to use that connection for domain > authentication. > > -- > Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's been > obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me. > > > > > "JN" <me@here.com> wrote in message > news:%23bNw8GQ%23IHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> That is not exactly how it is supposed to work. If it were you would see >> laptop and remote workers going crazy. When you logon, the computer >> knows that it is using cached credentials first, so it should not be >> trying to load a roaming profile if it already knows it is working from >> the cache. >> >> I have other units working properly. Just this one unit is giving me a >> problem. >> >> >> "The Real Truth MVP" <toidi@tpap.com> wrote in message >> news:v0Omk.9723$L_.8307@flpi150.ffdc.sbc.com... >>> Windows did detect that you are not on your network which is why you got >>> that message. Try logging in with the network cable unplugged. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's >>> been >>> obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> "JN" <me@here.com> wrote in message >>> news:uCZVyhP%23IHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>> Even when I am not on the network my roaming profile tries to load on >>>> my laptop when I logon. I get the error: >>>> >>>> "Windows cannot locate the server copy of your roaming profile and is >>>> attempting to log you on with your local profile. Changes to the >>>> profile will not be copied to the server when you logoff. Possible >>>> causes of this error include network problems or insufficient security >>>> rights. If this problem persists, contact your network administrator. " >>>> >>>> XP can't seem to detect that the computer is at some other location and >>>> tries to load the roaming profile. Is there a way to stop it from >>>> trying to load the profile when not on the domain? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > >
Guest The Real Truth MVP Posted August 8, 2008 Posted August 8, 2008 Re: Roaming Profile still tries to load off network Check your profile folder in there is there a file called ntuser.dat or ntuser.man? Check the other computers to compare them. -- Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's been obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me. "JN" <me@here.com> wrote in message news:eat5pPW%23IHA.4196@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > No, that is not what is supposed to happen. The computer boots and rather > quickly the computer can see if it is on a domain because the system tries > to authenticate the computer even before you logon. This is why you see > events that the computer can't find the domain controller in the event > logs even before you logon to the computer when you are off the domain. > This is also how the computer knows to used the cached credentials and > does so very quickly istead of sitting at the logon prompt for about a > minute after you enter your password. > > As long as I am not super speedy and enter my password a millisecond after > the prompt is available the computer should already realize it is off the > domain, which it did and you can tell it did because it fell back to > cached credentials. Now since the computer already knows that I am off > the domain because it already failed a check for itself and fell back to > using cached credentials it should (and does for other computers I have) > used the local copy of the profile without trying to get it from the > server. > > Mine is not. Even if I turn off the wireless and disable the onboard NIC > I still get the same issue. > > > "The Real Truth MVP" <toidi@tpap.com> wrote in message > news:9zQmk.35242$ZE5.22573@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com... >> When you boot the computer during the boot sequence if it does not detect >> an active network it will use cache credentials. If it detects any type >> of active connection it will try to use that connection for domain >> authentication. >> >> -- >> Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's >> been >> obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me. >> >> >> >> >> "JN" <me@here.com> wrote in message >> news:%23bNw8GQ%23IHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> That is not exactly how it is supposed to work. If it were you would >>> see laptop and remote workers going crazy. When you logon, the computer >>> knows that it is using cached credentials first, so it should not be >>> trying to load a roaming profile if it already knows it is working from >>> the cache. >>> >>> I have other units working properly. Just this one unit is giving me a >>> problem. >>> >>> >>> "The Real Truth MVP" <toidi@tpap.com> wrote in message >>> news:v0Omk.9723$L_.8307@flpi150.ffdc.sbc.com... >>>> Windows did detect that you are not on your network which is why you >>>> got that message. Try logging in with the network cable unplugged. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's >>>> been >>>> obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards >>>> me. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "JN" <me@here.com> wrote in message >>>> news:uCZVyhP%23IHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>>> Even when I am not on the network my roaming profile tries to load on >>>>> my laptop when I logon. I get the error: >>>>> >>>>> "Windows cannot locate the server copy of your roaming profile and is >>>>> attempting to log you on with your local profile. Changes to the >>>>> profile will not be copied to the server when you logoff. Possible >>>>> causes of this error include network problems or insufficient security >>>>> rights. If this problem persists, contact your network administrator. >>>>> " >>>>> >>>>> XP can't seem to detect that the computer is at some other location >>>>> and tries to load the roaming profile. Is there a way to stop it from >>>>> trying to load the profile when not on the domain? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > >
Guest JN Posted August 8, 2008 Posted August 8, 2008 Re: Roaming Profile still tries to load off network All are .dat "The Real Truth MVP" <toidi@tpap.com> wrote in message news:2D1nk.17725$mh5.3343@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com... > Check your profile folder in there is there a file called ntuser.dat or > ntuser.man? Check the other computers to compare them. > > -- > Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's been > obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me. > > > > > "JN" <me@here.com> wrote in message > news:eat5pPW%23IHA.4196@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> No, that is not what is supposed to happen. The computer boots and >> rather quickly the computer can see if it is on a domain because the >> system tries to authenticate the computer even before you logon. This is >> why you see events that the computer can't find the domain controller in >> the event logs even before you logon to the computer when you are off the >> domain. This is also how the computer knows to used the cached >> credentials and does so very quickly istead of sitting at the logon >> prompt for about a minute after you enter your password. >> >> As long as I am not super speedy and enter my password a millisecond >> after the prompt is available the computer should already realize it is >> off the domain, which it did and you can tell it did because it fell back >> to cached credentials. Now since the computer already knows that I am >> off the domain because it already failed a check for itself and fell back >> to using cached credentials it should (and does for other computers I >> have) used the local copy of the profile without trying to get it from >> the server. >> >> Mine is not. Even if I turn off the wireless and disable the onboard NIC >> I still get the same issue. >> >> >> "The Real Truth MVP" <toidi@tpap.com> wrote in message >> news:9zQmk.35242$ZE5.22573@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com... >>> When you boot the computer during the boot sequence if it does not >>> detect an active network it will use cache credentials. If it detects >>> any type of active connection it will try to use that connection for >>> domain authentication. >>> >>> -- >>> Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's >>> been >>> obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> "JN" <me@here.com> wrote in message >>> news:%23bNw8GQ%23IHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>> That is not exactly how it is supposed to work. If it were you would >>>> see laptop and remote workers going crazy. When you logon, the >>>> computer knows that it is using cached credentials first, so it should >>>> not be trying to load a roaming profile if it already knows it is >>>> working from the cache. >>>> >>>> I have other units working properly. Just this one unit is giving me a >>>> problem. >>>> >>>> >>>> "The Real Truth MVP" <toidi@tpap.com> wrote in message >>>> news:v0Omk.9723$L_.8307@flpi150.ffdc.sbc.com... >>>>> Windows did detect that you are not on your network which is why you >>>>> got that message. Try logging in with the network cable unplugged. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's >>>>> been >>>>> obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards >>>>> me. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "JN" <me@here.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:uCZVyhP%23IHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>>>> Even when I am not on the network my roaming profile tries to load on >>>>>> my laptop when I logon. I get the error: >>>>>> >>>>>> "Windows cannot locate the server copy of your roaming profile and is >>>>>> attempting to log you on with your local profile. Changes to the >>>>>> profile will not be copied to the server when you logoff. Possible >>>>>> causes of this error include network problems or insufficient >>>>>> security rights. If this problem persists, contact your network >>>>>> administrator. " >>>>>> >>>>>> XP can't seem to detect that the computer is at some other location >>>>>> and tries to load the roaming profile. Is there a way to stop it >>>>>> from trying to load the profile when not on the domain? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > >
Guest The Real Truth MVP Posted August 8, 2008 Posted August 8, 2008 Re: Roaming Profile still tries to load off network From what you are describing I can duplicate the issue and I see that type of issue all the time. However, unplugging the network cable fixes it. Do you have any drives mapped or any antivirus software that tries to update during boot, firewall software, VPN anything like that on the troubled system that is not on the others? -- Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's been obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me. "JN" <me@here.com> wrote in message news:efCB4pZ%23IHA.5192@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > All are .dat > > > "The Real Truth MVP" <toidi@tpap.com> wrote in message > news:2D1nk.17725$mh5.3343@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com... >> Check your profile folder in there is there a file called ntuser.dat or >> ntuser.man? Check the other computers to compare them. >> >> -- >> Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's >> been >> obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me. >> >> >> >> >> "JN" <me@here.com> wrote in message >> news:eat5pPW%23IHA.4196@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> No, that is not what is supposed to happen. The computer boots and >>> rather quickly the computer can see if it is on a domain because the >>> system tries to authenticate the computer even before you logon. This >>> is why you see events that the computer can't find the domain controller >>> in the event logs even before you logon to the computer when you are off >>> the domain. This is also how the computer knows to used the cached >>> credentials and does so very quickly istead of sitting at the logon >>> prompt for about a minute after you enter your password. >>> >>> As long as I am not super speedy and enter my password a millisecond >>> after the prompt is available the computer should already realize it is >>> off the domain, which it did and you can tell it did because it fell >>> back to cached credentials. Now since the computer already knows that I >>> am off the domain because it already failed a check for itself and fell >>> back to using cached credentials it should (and does for other computers >>> I have) used the local copy of the profile without trying to get it from >>> the server. >>> >>> Mine is not. Even if I turn off the wireless and disable the onboard >>> NIC I still get the same issue. >>> >>> >>> "The Real Truth MVP" <toidi@tpap.com> wrote in message >>> news:9zQmk.35242$ZE5.22573@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com... >>>> When you boot the computer during the boot sequence if it does not >>>> detect an active network it will use cache credentials. If it detects >>>> any type of active connection it will try to use that connection for >>>> domain authentication. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's >>>> been >>>> obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards >>>> me. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "JN" <me@here.com> wrote in message >>>> news:%23bNw8GQ%23IHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>> That is not exactly how it is supposed to work. If it were you would >>>>> see laptop and remote workers going crazy. When you logon, the >>>>> computer knows that it is using cached credentials first, so it should >>>>> not be trying to load a roaming profile if it already knows it is >>>>> working from the cache. >>>>> >>>>> I have other units working properly. Just this one unit is giving me >>>>> a problem. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "The Real Truth MVP" <toidi@tpap.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:v0Omk.9723$L_.8307@flpi150.ffdc.sbc.com... >>>>>> Windows did detect that you are not on your network which is why you >>>>>> got that message. Try logging in with the network cable unplugged. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's >>>>>> been >>>>>> obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards >>>>>> me. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "JN" <me@here.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:uCZVyhP%23IHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> Even when I am not on the network my roaming profile tries to load >>>>>>> on my laptop when I logon. I get the error: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Windows cannot locate the server copy of your roaming profile and >>>>>>> is attempting to log you on with your local profile. Changes to the >>>>>>> profile will not be copied to the server when you logoff. Possible >>>>>>> causes of this error include network problems or insufficient >>>>>>> security rights. If this problem persists, contact your network >>>>>>> administrator. " >>>>>>> >>>>>>> XP can't seem to detect that the computer is at some other location >>>>>>> and tries to load the roaming profile. Is there a way to stop it >>>>>>> from trying to load the profile when not on the domain? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > >
Guest Leythos Posted August 10, 2008 Posted August 10, 2008 Re: Roaming Profile still tries to load off network In article <2D1nk.17725$mh5.3343@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com>, toidi@tpap.com says... > Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's been > obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me. > Chris, Stop stalking me in Usenet -- - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist" spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
Guest Leythos Posted August 10, 2008 Posted August 10, 2008 Re: Roaming Profile still tries to load off network In article <mO4nk.18547$89.12911@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com>, toidi@tpap.com says... > Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's been > obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me. > > Chris, stop stalking me in Usenet -- - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist" spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
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