Guest margie Posted August 9, 2008 Posted August 9, 2008 I have just fitted the above to my elderly neighbours older computer because he needed a new keyboard and it had a usb connection and he did not have enough usb sockets. I bought a cheap Prostat 4 port usb hub 1.1 version which works well. The only problem is that when booting the computer windows 98SE wont boot up unless I disconnect the 4 port usb hub and then it is fine and I reconnect it and all is well. I was wondering do I need the 2.0 version or what can I do???? looking forward to hearing any suggestions. thanks -- margie
Guest Dan Posted August 9, 2008 Posted August 9, 2008 RE: 4 port usb hub Windows 98 Second Edition does not natively support USB 2.0x. It needs to be supported with an add in card. "margie" wrote: > I have just fitted the above to my elderly neighbours older computer because > he needed a new keyboard and it had a usb connection and he did not have > enough usb sockets. I bought a cheap Prostat 4 port usb hub 1.1 version > which works well. The only problem is that when booting the computer windows > 98SE wont boot up unless I disconnect the 4 port usb hub and then it is fine > and I reconnect it and all is well. I was wondering do I need the 2.0 > version or what can I do???? > looking forward to hearing any suggestions. thanks > -- > margie
Guest margie Posted August 9, 2008 Posted August 9, 2008 RE: 4 port usb hub Thanks Dan, I dont quite understand. Are you saying a 2.0 version would not fix the problem??? so what is an add in card??? thanks -- margie "Dan" wrote: > Windows 98 Second Edition does not natively support USB 2.0x. It needs to be > supported with an add in card. > > "margie" wrote: > > > I have just fitted the above to my elderly neighbours older computer because > > he needed a new keyboard and it had a usb connection and he did not have > > enough usb sockets. I bought a cheap Prostat 4 port usb hub 1.1 version > > which works well. The only problem is that when booting the computer windows > > 98SE wont boot up unless I disconnect the 4 port usb hub and then it is fine > > and I reconnect it and all is well. I was wondering do I need the 2.0 > > version or what can I do???? > > looking forward to hearing any suggestions. thanks > > -- > > margie
Guest Mart Posted August 9, 2008 Posted August 9, 2008 Re: 4 port usb hub Perhaps this *may* be relevant or helpful :- USB Devices May Not Work in Windows 98 Second Edition http://support.microsoft.com/kb/240075 Good luck Mart "margie" <margie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:CD508B49-49CE-42F2-8BE5-979182C2EEB3@microsoft.com... >I have just fitted the above to my elderly neighbours older computer >because > he needed a new keyboard and it had a usb connection and he did not have > enough usb sockets. I bought a cheap Prostat 4 port usb hub 1.1 version > which works well. The only problem is that when booting the computer > windows > 98SE wont boot up unless I disconnect the 4 port usb hub and then it is > fine > and I reconnect it and all is well. I was wondering do I need the 2.0 > version or what can I do???? > looking forward to hearing any suggestions. thanks > -- > margie
Guest Ingeborg Posted August 9, 2008 Posted August 9, 2008 Re: 4 port usb hub =?Utf-8?B?bWFyZ2ll?= wrote: > I have just fitted the above to my elderly neighbours older computer > because he needed a new keyboard and it had a usb connection and he > did not have enough usb sockets. I bought a cheap Prostat 4 port usb > hub 1.1 version which works well. The only problem is that when > booting the computer windows 98SE wont boot up unless I disconnect the > 4 port usb hub and then it is fine and I reconnect it and all is well. > I was wondering do I need the 2.0 version or what can I do???? Where does the boot procedure stop?
Guest Dan Posted August 9, 2008 Posted August 9, 2008 RE: 4 port usb hub Yes, you need to buy a add in card and open the case of your computer. The add-in card must support USB 2.0x and must support Windows 98 Second Edition. They are still out there. I bought one in New York City (Manhatten) at a big electronics store there and it works great for me. The following is an aside and may be of interest to some people. I grew up in NYC or the City as New Yorkers call it and love to go and visit on vacation when my funds allow and my folks still have a rental there and keep a small spot in the back that they can stay when they check up on the property. I usually stay with my friend Brian who now lives in Con. "margie" wrote: > Thanks Dan, I dont quite understand. Are you saying a 2.0 version would not > fix the problem??? so what is an add in card??? thanks > -- > margie > > > "Dan" wrote: > > > Windows 98 Second Edition does not natively support USB 2.0x. It needs to be > > supported with an add in card. > > > > "margie" wrote: > > > > > I have just fitted the above to my elderly neighbours older computer because > > > he needed a new keyboard and it had a usb connection and he did not have > > > enough usb sockets. I bought a cheap Prostat 4 port usb hub 1.1 version > > > which works well. The only problem is that when booting the computer windows > > > 98SE wont boot up unless I disconnect the 4 port usb hub and then it is fine > > > and I reconnect it and all is well. I was wondering do I need the 2.0 > > > version or what can I do???? > > > looking forward to hearing any suggestions. thanks > > > -- > > > margie
Guest dlsayremn Posted August 9, 2008 Posted August 9, 2008 RE: 4 port usb hub Margie, agree with Ingeborg. Need more information about what is happening at bootup. The machine is probably still looking for a PS2 connected ketyboard at startup. I am presently running a 98SE with a USB keyboard and USB Intellimouse hooked into a 4 port usb hub with no problems. This may work. Go into Devices after a successful boot and remove all the keyboard drivers and let the machine redetect the keyboard. If you get a message about not finding any .dll files they are usually located in C:\windows\system\drivers or C;\windows\system32\drivers Let us know if that works. There are a few more things to try. "margie" wrote: > I have just fitted the above to my elderly neighbours older computer because > he needed a new keyboard and it had a usb connection and he did not have > enough usb sockets. I bought a cheap Prostat 4 port usb hub 1.1 version > which works well. The only problem is that when booting the computer windows > 98SE wont boot up unless I disconnect the 4 port usb hub and then it is fine > and I reconnect it and all is well. I was wondering do I need the 2.0 > version or what can I do???? > looking forward to hearing any suggestions. thanks > -- > margie
Guest margie Posted August 9, 2008 Posted August 9, 2008 RE: 4 port usb hub Many thanks to Dan, Mart, Ingeborg, Dlsayremn for all of your help. The computer boots as far as the HP logo and then stops there. It is a HP Pavilion 6611. Funny you should mention keyboards that is when the problem started when he bought a new usb keyboard and didnt have enough usb sockets, I will go into device manager and see if I can sort things out there. His son just keeps telling him to buy a new computer but he says while this one is going he is quite happy to use it and I say good on him. Many thanks. -- margie "dlsayremn" wrote: > Margie, agree with Ingeborg. Need more information about what is happening at > bootup. The machine is probably still looking for a PS2 connected ketyboard > at startup. > I am presently running a 98SE with a USB keyboard and USB Intellimouse > hooked into a 4 port usb hub with no problems. > This may work. Go into Devices after a successful boot and remove all the > keyboard drivers and let the machine redetect the keyboard. If you get a > message about not finding any .dll files they are usually located in > C:\windows\system\drivers or C;\windows\system32\drivers > > Let us know if that works. There are a few more things to try. > > "margie" wrote: > > > I have just fitted the above to my elderly neighbours older computer because > > he needed a new keyboard and it had a usb connection and he did not have > > enough usb sockets. I bought a cheap Prostat 4 port usb hub 1.1 version > > which works well. The only problem is that when booting the computer windows > > 98SE wont boot up unless I disconnect the 4 port usb hub and then it is fine > > and I reconnect it and all is well. I was wondering do I need the 2.0 > > version or what can I do???? > > looking forward to hearing any suggestions. thanks > > -- > > margie
Guest Jeff Richards Posted August 10, 2008 Posted August 10, 2008 Re: 4 port usb hub If the keyboard has been connected to the new hub, then change things around so that it is connected direct to the controller port, and something else goes through the hub. -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) "margie" <margie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:879056E6-B116-462B-B4DC-04EAAA3F7DA7@microsoft.com... > Many thanks to Dan, Mart, Ingeborg, Dlsayremn for all of your help. The > computer boots as far as the HP logo and then stops there. It is a HP > Pavilion 6611. Funny you should mention keyboards that is when the > problem > started when he bought a new usb keyboard and didnt have enough usb > sockets, > I will go into device manager and see if I can sort things out there. His > son just keeps telling him to buy a new computer but he says while this > one > is going he is quite happy to use it and I say good on him. Many thanks. > -- > margie >
Guest margie Posted August 10, 2008 Posted August 10, 2008 Re: 4 port usb hub Thanks Jeff I will send my friend an email right now and tell him to do that and if that fails will go over tomorrow and try the other options. thanks. -- margie "Jeff Richards" wrote: > If the keyboard has been connected to the new hub, then change things around > so that it is connected direct to the controller port, and something else > goes through the hub. > -- > Jeff Richards > MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) > "margie" <margie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:879056E6-B116-462B-B4DC-04EAAA3F7DA7@microsoft.com... > > Many thanks to Dan, Mart, Ingeborg, Dlsayremn for all of your help. The > > computer boots as far as the HP logo and then stops there. It is a HP > > Pavilion 6611. Funny you should mention keyboards that is when the > > problem > > started when he bought a new usb keyboard and didnt have enough usb > > sockets, > > I will go into device manager and see if I can sort things out there. His > > son just keeps telling him to buy a new computer but he says while this > > one > > is going he is quite happy to use it and I say good on him. Many thanks. > > -- > > margie > > > > >
Guest CdLSRN Posted August 10, 2008 Posted August 10, 2008 Re: 4 port usb hub I had the same thing happen with my Belkin 4 port hub on my Windows 98se machine. I used it for over a year with no problems. I simply unplugged the device and one of the side plugs and then plugged them back in (every time I turned machine on) and everything worked fine like that. My Belkin was a 2.0 and the Dell was a 1.1. Don't bother adding a card or buying anything else. My Belkin was $30. First I got the yellow light and the device wasn't recognized; then after unplugging and plugging again I got the green light and all was fine. "margie" <margie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:EE4F9D84-2A5A-495E-B15F-3059125A1BAF@microsoft.com... > Thanks Jeff I will send my friend an email right now and tell him to do > that > and if that fails will go over tomorrow and try the other options. > thanks. > -- > margie > > > "Jeff Richards" wrote: > >> If the keyboard has been connected to the new hub, then change things >> around >> so that it is connected direct to the controller port, and something else >> goes through the hub. >> -- >> Jeff Richards >> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) >> "margie" <margie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:879056E6-B116-462B-B4DC-04EAAA3F7DA7@microsoft.com... >> > Many thanks to Dan, Mart, Ingeborg, Dlsayremn for all of your help. >> > The >> > computer boots as far as the HP logo and then stops there. It is a HP >> > Pavilion 6611. Funny you should mention keyboards that is when the >> > problem >> > started when he bought a new usb keyboard and didnt have enough usb >> > sockets, >> > I will go into device manager and see if I can sort things out there. >> > His >> > son just keeps telling him to buy a new computer but he says while this >> > one >> > is going he is quite happy to use it and I say good on him. Many >> > thanks. >> > -- >> > margie >> > >> >> >>
Guest margie Posted August 10, 2008 Posted August 10, 2008 Re: 4 port usb hub Thanks CdLSRN that is what he is doing now and this is what he may have to continue doing. I appreciate your advice. -- margie "CdLSRN" wrote: > I had the same thing happen with my Belkin 4 port hub on my Windows 98se > machine. I used it for over a year with no problems. I simply unplugged the > device and one of the side plugs and then plugged them back in (every time I > turned machine on) and everything worked fine like that. My Belkin was a 2.0 > and the Dell was a 1.1. Don't bother adding a card or buying anything else. > My Belkin was $30. First I got the yellow light and the device wasn't > recognized; then after unplugging and plugging again I got the green light > and all was fine. > > > "margie" <margie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:EE4F9D84-2A5A-495E-B15F-3059125A1BAF@microsoft.com... > > Thanks Jeff I will send my friend an email right now and tell him to do > > that > > and if that fails will go over tomorrow and try the other options. > > thanks. > > -- > > margie > > > > > > "Jeff Richards" wrote: > > > >> If the keyboard has been connected to the new hub, then change things > >> around > >> so that it is connected direct to the controller port, and something else > >> goes through the hub. > >> -- > >> Jeff Richards > >> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) > >> "margie" <margie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> news:879056E6-B116-462B-B4DC-04EAAA3F7DA7@microsoft.com... > >> > Many thanks to Dan, Mart, Ingeborg, Dlsayremn for all of your help. > >> > The > >> > computer boots as far as the HP logo and then stops there. It is a HP > >> > Pavilion 6611. Funny you should mention keyboards that is when the > >> > problem > >> > started when he bought a new usb keyboard and didnt have enough usb > >> > sockets, > >> > I will go into device manager and see if I can sort things out there. > >> > His > >> > son just keeps telling him to buy a new computer but he says while this > >> > one > >> > is going he is quite happy to use it and I say good on him. Many > >> > thanks. > >> > -- > >> > margie > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >
Guest Dan Posted August 12, 2008 Posted August 12, 2008 Re: 4 port usb hub This site might help you with a few of your questions regarding your computer, margie. http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/documentIndex?lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&product=60488&lang=en& "margie" wrote: > Thanks CdLSRN that is what he is doing now and this is what he may have to > continue doing. I appreciate your advice. > -- > margie > > > "CdLSRN" wrote: > > > I had the same thing happen with my Belkin 4 port hub on my Windows 98se > > machine. I used it for over a year with no problems. I simply unplugged the > > device and one of the side plugs and then plugged them back in (every time I > > turned machine on) and everything worked fine like that. My Belkin was a 2.0 > > and the Dell was a 1.1. Don't bother adding a card or buying anything else. > > My Belkin was $30. First I got the yellow light and the device wasn't > > recognized; then after unplugging and plugging again I got the green light > > and all was fine. > > > > > > "margie" <margie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > news:EE4F9D84-2A5A-495E-B15F-3059125A1BAF@microsoft.com... > > > Thanks Jeff I will send my friend an email right now and tell him to do > > > that > > > and if that fails will go over tomorrow and try the other options. > > > thanks. > > > -- > > > margie > > > > > > > > > "Jeff Richards" wrote: > > > > > >> If the keyboard has been connected to the new hub, then change things > > >> around > > >> so that it is connected direct to the controller port, and something else > > >> goes through the hub. > > >> -- > > >> Jeff Richards > > >> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) > > >> "margie" <margie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > >> news:879056E6-B116-462B-B4DC-04EAAA3F7DA7@microsoft.com... > > >> > Many thanks to Dan, Mart, Ingeborg, Dlsayremn for all of your help. > > >> > The > > >> > computer boots as far as the HP logo and then stops there. It is a HP > > >> > Pavilion 6611. Funny you should mention keyboards that is when the > > >> > problem > > >> > started when he bought a new usb keyboard and didnt have enough usb > > >> > sockets, > > >> > I will go into device manager and see if I can sort things out there. > > >> > His > > >> > son just keeps telling him to buy a new computer but he says while this > > >> > one > > >> > is going he is quite happy to use it and I say good on him. Many > > >> > thanks. > > >> > -- > > >> > margie > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > >
Guest margie Posted August 12, 2008 Posted August 12, 2008 Re: 4 port usb hub thanks Dan I will have a look. Havent been able to look at his computer yet but hope to get over there soon. -- margie "Dan" wrote: > This site might help you with a few of your questions regarding your > computer, margie. > > http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/documentIndex?lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&product=60488&lang=en& > > "margie" wrote: > > > Thanks CdLSRN that is what he is doing now and this is what he may have to > > continue doing. I appreciate your advice. > > -- > > margie > > > > > > "CdLSRN" wrote: > > > > > I had the same thing happen with my Belkin 4 port hub on my Windows 98se > > > machine. I used it for over a year with no problems. I simply unplugged the > > > device and one of the side plugs and then plugged them back in (every time I > > > turned machine on) and everything worked fine like that. My Belkin was a 2.0 > > > and the Dell was a 1.1. Don't bother adding a card or buying anything else. > > > My Belkin was $30. First I got the yellow light and the device wasn't > > > recognized; then after unplugging and plugging again I got the green light > > > and all was fine. > > > > > > > > > "margie" <margie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > news:EE4F9D84-2A5A-495E-B15F-3059125A1BAF@microsoft.com... > > > > Thanks Jeff I will send my friend an email right now and tell him to do > > > > that > > > > and if that fails will go over tomorrow and try the other options. > > > > thanks. > > > > -- > > > > margie > > > > > > > > > > > > "Jeff Richards" wrote: > > > > > > > >> If the keyboard has been connected to the new hub, then change things > > > >> around > > > >> so that it is connected direct to the controller port, and something else > > > >> goes through the hub. > > > >> -- > > > >> Jeff Richards > > > >> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) > > > >> "margie" <margie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > >> news:879056E6-B116-462B-B4DC-04EAAA3F7DA7@microsoft.com... > > > >> > Many thanks to Dan, Mart, Ingeborg, Dlsayremn for all of your help. > > > >> > The > > > >> > computer boots as far as the HP logo and then stops there. It is a HP > > > >> > Pavilion 6611. Funny you should mention keyboards that is when the > > > >> > problem > > > >> > started when he bought a new usb keyboard and didnt have enough usb > > > >> > sockets, > > > >> > I will go into device manager and see if I can sort things out there. > > > >> > His > > > >> > son just keeps telling him to buy a new computer but he says while this > > > >> > one > > > >> > is going he is quite happy to use it and I say good on him. Many > > > >> > thanks. > > > >> > -- > > > >> > margie > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >
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