Can you use a Win98 PC with dedicated printer attached as a print server for Vista laptop ?

August 11, 2008

Can you use a Win98 PC with dedicated printer attached as a print server for Vista laptop ?

I can set up my printer to share over network and Vista laptop sees printer

on network but Vista won't connect. Do I have to declare this legacy print

server a Win 98SE machine somehow ?

Probably more a Vista question and I have posted but thought someone must

have experience in trying this.

August 11, 2008

Re: Can you use a Win98 PC with dedicated printer attached as a print server for Vista laptop ?

Re: Can you use a Win98 PC with dedicated printer attached as a print server for Vista laptop ?

Yeah, I just had experience with this, but can't recall the exact steps.

Sorry. Thing is, you need Vista drivers for the printer, and when I tried to

install it manually as a local printer, as per the instructions I recall, it

turns out Vista comes preloaded with every DeskJet printer *except* 692C.

IOW I'm SOL.

But you might be luckier and find the right driver. Then, as I said, you

install in as a local printer (on some free LPT port) and then run some

command to bind it to the remote printer. Others say you can create a new

port while installing, but I'm not clear on that one and no literature I

have come across seems to be very clear, either.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://grystmill.com

"Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:e%23zvkQ1%23IHA.4684@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>I can set up my printer to share over network and Vista laptop sees printer

> on network but Vista won't connect. Do I have to declare this legacy

> print

> server a Win 98SE machine somehow ?

>

> Probably more a Vista question and I have posted but thought someone must

> have experience in trying this.

>

August 11, 2008

Re: Can you use a Win98 PC with dedicated printer attached as a print server for Vista laptop ?

Re: Can you use a Win98 PC with dedicated printer attached as a print server for Vista laptop ?

Interesting, I tried installing as a network printer, Vista could see it

because I enabled printer sharing, but it couldn't communicate with it.

I thought of a local driver, which I think Vista has, but I'm unclear how to

connect it to the Win98 print server.

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:eVEdJR2%23IHA.1452@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> Yeah, I just had experience with this, but can't recall the exact steps.

> Sorry. Thing is, you need Vista drivers for the printer, and when I tried

to

> install it manually as a local printer, as per the instructions I recall,

it

> turns out Vista comes preloaded with every DeskJet printer *except* 692C.

> IOW I'm SOL.

>

> But you might be luckier and find the right driver. Then, as I said, you

> install in as a local printer (on some free LPT port) and then run some

> command to bind it to the remote printer. Others say you can create a new

> port while installing, but I'm not clear on that one and no literature I

> have come across seems to be very clear, either.

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://grystmill.com

>

> "Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

> news:e%23zvkQ1%23IHA.4684@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> >I can set up my printer to share over network and Vista laptop sees

printer

> > on network but Vista won't connect. Do I have to declare this legacy

> > print

> > server a Win 98SE machine somehow ?

> >

> > Probably more a Vista question and I have posted but thought someone

must

> > have experience in trying this.

> >

>

August 11, 2008

Re: Can you use a Win98 PC with dedicated printer attached as a print server for Vista laptop ?

Re: Can you use a Win98 PC with dedicated printer attached as a print server for Vista laptop ?

This is actually a Vista issue. To connect a network printer using Vista

you need to create a local port and connect the printer to that port. See,

for instance:

http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=1192680&SiteID=17

--

Jeff Richards

MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)

"Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:udwjAZ3%23IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Interesting, I tried installing as a network printer, Vista could see it

> because I enabled printer sharing, but it couldn't communicate with it.

>

> I thought of a local driver, which I think Vista has, but I'm unclear how

> to

> connect it to the Win98 print server.

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:eVEdJR2%23IHA.1452@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> Yeah, I just had experience with this, but can't recall the exact steps.

>> Sorry. Thing is, you need Vista drivers for the printer, and when I tried

> to

>> install it manually as a local printer, as per the instructions I recall,

> it

>> turns out Vista comes preloaded with every DeskJet printer *except* 692C.

>> IOW I'm SOL.

>>

>> But you might be luckier and find the right driver. Then, as I said, you

>> install in as a local printer (on some free LPT port) and then run some

>> command to bind it to the remote printer. Others say you can create a new

>> port while installing, but I'm not clear on that one and no literature I

>> have come across seems to be very clear, either.

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://grystmill.com

>>

>> "Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

>> news:e%23zvkQ1%23IHA.4684@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> >I can set up my printer to share over network and Vista laptop sees

> printer

>> > on network but Vista won't connect. Do I have to declare this legacy

>> > print

>> > server a Win 98SE machine somehow ?

>> >

>> > Probably more a Vista question and I have posted but thought someone

> must

>> > have experience in trying this.

>> >

>>

>

August 11, 2008

Re: Can you use a Win98 PC with dedicated printer attached as a print server for Vista laptop ?

Re: Can you use a Win98 PC with dedicated printer attached as a print server for Vista laptop ?

The item I've been trying to remember suggested using any available local

port (LPT1, for example), then mapping that to the printer address with,

IIRC, a netsh command. The method you posted is much more sensible.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://grystmill.com

"Jeff Richards" <JRichards@msn.com.au> wrote in message

news:u4kxQw3%23IHA.528@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> This is actually a Vista issue. To connect a network printer using Vista

> you need to create a local port and connect the printer to that port. See,

> for instance:

> http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=1192680&SiteID=17

> --

> Jeff Richards

> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)

> "Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

> news:udwjAZ3%23IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> Interesting, I tried installing as a network printer, Vista could see it

>> because I enabled printer sharing, but it couldn't communicate with it.

>>

>> I thought of a local driver, which I think Vista has, but I'm unclear how

>> to

>> connect it to the Win98 print server.

>>

>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> news:eVEdJR2%23IHA.1452@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>> Yeah, I just had experience with this, but can't recall the exact steps.

>>> Sorry. Thing is, you need Vista drivers for the printer, and when I

>>> tried

>> to

>>> install it manually as a local printer, as per the instructions I

>>> recall,

>> it

>>> turns out Vista comes preloaded with every DeskJet printer *except*

>>> 692C.

>>> IOW I'm SOL.

>>>

>>> But you might be luckier and find the right driver. Then, as I said, you

>>> install in as a local printer (on some free LPT port) and then run some

>>> command to bind it to the remote printer. Others say you can create a

>>> new

>>> port while installing, but I'm not clear on that one and no literature I

>>> have come across seems to be very clear, either.

>>>

>>> --

>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>> http://grystmill.com

>>>

>>> "Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

>>> news:e%23zvkQ1%23IHA.4684@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>> >I can set up my printer to share over network and Vista laptop sees

>> printer

>>> > on network but Vista won't connect. Do I have to declare this legacy

>>> > print

>>> > server a Win 98SE machine somehow ?

>>> >

>>> > Probably more a Vista question and I have posted but thought someone

>> must

>>> > have experience in trying this.

>>> >

>>>

>>

>

August 11, 2008

Re: Can you use a Win98 PC with dedicated printer attached as a print server for Vista laptop ?

Re: Can you use a Win98 PC with dedicated printer attached as a print server for Vista laptop ?

Thanks Jeff, I'll take a look :)))

"Jeff Richards" <JRichards@msn.com.au> wrote in message

news:u4kxQw3%23IHA.528@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> This is actually a Vista issue. To connect a network printer using Vista

> you need to create a local port and connect the printer to that port. See,

> for instance:

> http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=1192680&SiteID=17

> --

> Jeff Richards

> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)

> "Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

> news:udwjAZ3%23IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> > Interesting, I tried installing as a network printer, Vista could see it

> > because I enabled printer sharing, but it couldn't communicate with it.

> >

> > I thought of a local driver, which I think Vista has, but I'm unclear

how

> > to

> > connect it to the Win98 print server.

> >

> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> > news:eVEdJR2%23IHA.1452@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> >> Yeah, I just had experience with this, but can't recall the exact

steps.

> >> Sorry. Thing is, you need Vista drivers for the printer, and when I

tried

> > to

> >> install it manually as a local printer, as per the instructions I

recall,

> > it

> >> turns out Vista comes preloaded with every DeskJet printer *except*

692C.

> >> IOW I'm SOL.

> >>

> >> But you might be luckier and find the right driver. Then, as I said,

you

> >> install in as a local printer (on some free LPT port) and then run some

> >> command to bind it to the remote printer. Others say you can create a

new

> >> port while installing, but I'm not clear on that one and no literature

I

> >> have come across seems to be very clear, either.

> >>

> >> --

> >> Gary S. Terhune

> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> >> http://grystmill.com

> >>

> >> "Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

> >> news:e%23zvkQ1%23IHA.4684@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> >> >I can set up my printer to share over network and Vista laptop sees

> > printer

> >> > on network but Vista won't connect. Do I have to declare this legacy

> >> > print

> >> > server a Win 98SE machine somehow ?

> >> >

> >> > Probably more a Vista question and I have posted but thought someone

> > must

> >> > have experience in trying this.

> >> >

> >>

> >

>

August 11, 2008

Re: Can you use a Win98 PC with dedicated printer attached as a print server for Vista laptop ?

Re: Can you use a Win98 PC with dedicated printer attached as a print server for Vista laptop ?

No wonder so many people don't like Vista, but this looks like the solution

alright, thank you very much :)))

"Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:%23l9tj76%23IHA.872@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Thanks Jeff, I'll take a look :)))

>

> "Jeff Richards" <JRichards@msn.com.au> wrote in message

> news:u4kxQw3%23IHA.528@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> > This is actually a Vista issue. To connect a network printer using

Vista

> > you need to create a local port and connect the printer to that port.

See,

> > for instance:

> >

http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=1192680&SiteID=17

> > --

> > Jeff Richards

> > MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)

> > "Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

> > news:udwjAZ3%23IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> > > Interesting, I tried installing as a network printer, Vista could see

it

> > > because I enabled printer sharing, but it couldn't communicate with

it.

> > >

> > > I thought of a local driver, which I think Vista has, but I'm unclear

> how

> > > to

> > > connect it to the Win98 print server.

> > >

> > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> > > news:eVEdJR2%23IHA.1452@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> > >> Yeah, I just had experience with this, but can't recall the exact

> steps.

> > >> Sorry. Thing is, you need Vista drivers for the printer, and when I

> tried

> > > to

> > >> install it manually as a local printer, as per the instructions I

> recall,

> > > it

> > >> turns out Vista comes preloaded with every DeskJet printer *except*

> 692C.

> > >> IOW I'm SOL.

> > >>

> > >> But you might be luckier and find the right driver. Then, as I said,

> you

> > >> install in as a local printer (on some free LPT port) and then run

some

> > >> command to bind it to the remote printer. Others say you can create a

> new

> > >> port while installing, but I'm not clear on that one and no

literature

> I

> > >> have come across seems to be very clear, either.

> > >>

> > >> --

> > >> Gary S. Terhune

> > >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> > >> http://grystmill.com

> > >>

> > >> "Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

> > >> news:e%23zvkQ1%23IHA.4684@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> > >> >I can set up my printer to share over network and Vista laptop sees

> > > printer

> > >> > on network but Vista won't connect. Do I have to declare this

legacy

> > >> > print

> > >> > server a Win 98SE machine somehow ?

> > >> >

> > >> > Probably more a Vista question and I have posted but thought

someone

> > > must

> > >> > have experience in trying this.

> > >> >

> > >>

> > >

> >

>

August 11, 2008

Re: Can you use a Win98 PC with dedicated printer attached as a print server for Vista laptop ?

Re: Can you use a Win98 PC with dedicated printer attached as a print server for Vista laptop ?

Now for some reason my Win98SE computer will only show icons in low colour,

with Printer and HDD sharing activated. Strange but I can live with it. :(

As soon as I deactivate sharing on both HDD and Printer the icons return to

high colour.

"Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:eS92B$6%23IHA.4172@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> No wonder so many people don't like Vista, but this looks like the

solution

> alright, thank you very much :)))

>

> "Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

> news:%23l9tj76%23IHA.872@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> > Thanks Jeff, I'll take a look :)))

> >

> > "Jeff Richards" <JRichards@msn.com.au> wrote in message

> > news:u4kxQw3%23IHA.528@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> > > This is actually a Vista issue. To connect a network printer using

> Vista

> > > you need to create a local port and connect the printer to that port.

> See,

> > > for instance:

> > >

> http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=1192680&SiteID=17

> > > --

> > > Jeff Richards

> > > MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)

> > > "Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

> > > news:udwjAZ3%23IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> > > > Interesting, I tried installing as a network printer, Vista could

see

> it

> > > > because I enabled printer sharing, but it couldn't communicate with

> it.

> > > >

> > > > I thought of a local driver, which I think Vista has, but I'm

unclear

> > how

> > > > to

> > > > connect it to the Win98 print server.

> > > >

> > > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> > > > news:eVEdJR2%23IHA.1452@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> > > >> Yeah, I just had experience with this, but can't recall the exact

> > steps.

> > > >> Sorry. Thing is, you need Vista drivers for the printer, and when I

> > tried

> > > > to

> > > >> install it manually as a local printer, as per the instructions I

> > recall,

> > > > it

> > > >> turns out Vista comes preloaded with every DeskJet printer *except*

> > 692C.

> > > >> IOW I'm SOL.

> > > >>

> > > >> But you might be luckier and find the right driver. Then, as I

said,

> > you

> > > >> install in as a local printer (on some free LPT port) and then run

> some

> > > >> command to bind it to the remote printer. Others say you can create

a

> > new

> > > >> port while installing, but I'm not clear on that one and no

> literature

> > I

> > > >> have come across seems to be very clear, either.

> > > >>

> > > >> --

> > > >> Gary S. Terhune

> > > >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> > > >> http://grystmill.com

> > > >>

> > > >> "Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

> > > >> news:e%23zvkQ1%23IHA.4684@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> > > >> >I can set up my printer to share over network and Vista laptop

sees

> > > > printer

> > > >> > on network but Vista won't connect. Do I have to declare this

> legacy

> > > >> > print

> > > >> > server a Win 98SE machine somehow ?

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Probably more a Vista question and I have posted but thought

> someone

> > > > must

> > > >> > have experience in trying this.

> > > >> >

> > > >>

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

August 12, 2008

Re: Can you use a Win98 PC with dedicated printer attached as a pr

Re: Can you use a Win98 PC with dedicated printer attached as a pr

How much memory do you have installed in your Windows 98 Second Edition

computer?

August 12, 2008

Re: Can you use a Win98 PC with dedicated printer attached as a pr

Re: Can you use a Win98 PC with dedicated printer attached as a pr

256 MB

"Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> How much memory do you have installed in your Windows 98 Second Edition

> computer?

August 12, 2008

Re: Can you use a Win98 PC with dedicated printer attached as a pr

Re: Can you use a Win98 PC with dedicated printer attached as a pr

Okay, it is not a memory issue. Thank you for your response. I will have to

ponder over this. Hopefully, someone else will have some better ideas. I

have downgraded from 2 gigabytes of memory to a 512 megabyte stick of ram in

order to primary use 98 Second Edition again because of all the DNS Pollution

that Dan K. discovered that affects NT products -- eg. 2000, XP, Server, etc.

Dan W.

"Warren" wrote:

> 256 MB

>

> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:E09A2371-EFF8-49EB-A8B8-EA18FECF555B@microsoft.com...

> > How much memory do you have installed in your Windows 98 Second Edition

> > computer?

>

August 13, 2008

Re: Can you use a Win98 PC with dedicated printer attached as a pr

Re: Can you use a Win98 PC with dedicated printer attached as a pr

What video card do you have and is the video card supported fully in both 98

Second Edition and Vista? I am pulling straws here and so am indeed open if

anyone has any better suggestions.

"Warren" wrote:

> Now for some reason my Win98SE computer will only show icons in low colour,

> with Printer and HDD sharing activated. Strange but I can live with it. :(

>

> As soon as I deactivate sharing on both HDD and Printer the icons return to

> high colour.

>

> "Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

> news:eS92B$6%23IHA.4172@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> > No wonder so many people don't like Vista, but this looks like the

> solution

> > alright, thank you very much :)))

> >

> > "Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

> > news:%23l9tj76%23IHA.872@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> > > Thanks Jeff, I'll take a look :)))

> > >

> > > "Jeff Richards" <JRichards@msn.com.au> wrote in message

> > > news:u4kxQw3%23IHA.528@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> > > > This is actually a Vista issue. To connect a network printer using

> > Vista

> > > > you need to create a local port and connect the printer to that port.

> > See,

> > > > for instance:

> > > >

> > http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=1192680&SiteID=17

> > > > --

> > > > Jeff Richards

> > > > MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)

> > > > "Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

> > > > news:udwjAZ3%23IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> > > > > Interesting, I tried installing as a network printer, Vista could

> see

> > it

> > > > > because I enabled printer sharing, but it couldn't communicate with

> > it.

> > > > >

> > > > > I thought of a local driver, which I think Vista has, but I'm

> unclear

> > > how

> > > > > to

> > > > > connect it to the Win98 print server.

> > > > >

> > > > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> > > > > news:eVEdJR2%23IHA.1452@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> > > > >> Yeah, I just had experience with this, but can't recall the exact

> > > steps.

> > > > >> Sorry. Thing is, you need Vista drivers for the printer, and when I

> > > tried

> > > > > to

> > > > >> install it manually as a local printer, as per the instructions I

> > > recall,

> > > > > it

> > > > >> turns out Vista comes preloaded with every DeskJet printer *except*

> > > 692C.

> > > > >> IOW I'm SOL.

> > > > >>

> > > > >> But you might be luckier and find the right driver. Then, as I

> said,

> > > you

> > > > >> install in as a local printer (on some free LPT port) and then run

> > some

> > > > >> command to bind it to the remote printer. Others say you can create

> a

> > > new

> > > > >> port while installing, but I'm not clear on that one and no

> > literature

> > > I

> > > > >> have come across seems to be very clear, either.

> > > > >>

> > > > >> --

> > > > >> Gary S. Terhune

> > > > >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> > > > >> http://grystmill.com

> > > > >>

> > > > >> "Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

> > > > >> news:e%23zvkQ1%23IHA.4684@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> > > > >> >I can set up my printer to share over network and Vista laptop

> sees

> > > > > printer

> > > > >> > on network but Vista won't connect. Do I have to declare this

> > legacy

> > > > >> > print

> > > > >> > server a Win 98SE machine somehow ?

> > > > >> >

> > > > >> > Probably more a Vista question and I have posted but thought

> > someone

> > > > > must

> > > > >> > have experience in trying this.

> > > > >> >

> > > > >>

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

August 13, 2008

Re: Can you use a Win98 PC with dedicated printer attached as a pr

Re: Can you use a Win98 PC with dedicated printer attached as a pr

Video card is Radeon 9200, has drivers for Win98SE.

"Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:9D695E86-71D6-4818-AD6A-2A17F6C3B96C@microsoft.com...

> What video card do you have and is the video card supported fully in both

98

> Second Edition and Vista? I am pulling straws here and so am indeed open

if

> anyone has any better suggestions.

>

> "Warren" wrote:

>

> > Now for some reason my Win98SE computer will only show icons in low

colour,

> > with Printer and HDD sharing activated. Strange but I can live with it.

:(

> >

> > As soon as I deactivate sharing on both HDD and Printer the icons return

to

> > high colour.

> >

> > "Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

> > news:eS92B$6%23IHA.4172@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> > > No wonder so many people don't like Vista, but this looks like the

> > solution

> > > alright, thank you very much :)))

> > >

> > > "Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

> > > news:%23l9tj76%23IHA.872@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> > > > Thanks Jeff, I'll take a look :)))

> > > >

> > > > "Jeff Richards" <JRichards@msn.com.au> wrote in message

> > > > news:u4kxQw3%23IHA.528@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> > > > > This is actually a Vista issue. To connect a network printer

using

> > > Vista

> > > > > you need to create a local port and connect the printer to that

port.

> > > See,

> > > > > for instance:

> > > > >

> > >

http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=1192680&SiteID=17

> > > > > --

> > > > > Jeff Richards

> > > > > MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)

> > > > > "Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

> > > > > news:udwjAZ3%23IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> > > > > > Interesting, I tried installing as a network printer, Vista

could

> > see

> > > it

> > > > > > because I enabled printer sharing, but it couldn't communicate

with

> > > it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I thought of a local driver, which I think Vista has, but I'm

> > unclear

> > > > how

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > connect it to the Win98 print server.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> > > > > > news:eVEdJR2%23IHA.1452@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> > > > > >> Yeah, I just had experience with this, but can't recall the

exact

> > > > steps.

> > > > > >> Sorry. Thing is, you need Vista drivers for the printer, and

when I

> > > > tried

> > > > > > to

> > > > > >> install it manually as a local printer, as per the instructions

I

> > > > recall,

> > > > > > it

> > > > > >> turns out Vista comes preloaded with every DeskJet printer

*except*

> > > > 692C.

> > > > > >> IOW I'm SOL.

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >> But you might be luckier and find the right driver. Then, as I

> > said,

> > > > you

> > > > > >> install in as a local printer (on some free LPT port) and then

run

> > > some

> > > > > >> command to bind it to the remote printer. Others say you can

create

> > a

> > > > new

> > > > > >> port while installing, but I'm not clear on that one and no

> > > literature

> > > > I

> > > > > >> have come across seems to be very clear, either.

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >> --

> > > > > >> Gary S. Terhune

> > > > > >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> > > > > >> http://grystmill.com

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >> "Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

> > > > > >> news:e%23zvkQ1%23IHA.4684@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> > > > > >> >I can set up my printer to share over network and Vista laptop

> > sees

> > > > > > printer

> > > > > >> > on network but Vista won't connect. Do I have to declare

this

> > > legacy

> > > > > >> > print

> > > > > >> > server a Win 98SE machine somehow ?

> > > > > >> >

> > > > > >> > Probably more a Vista question and I have posted but thought

> > > someone

> > > > > > must

> > > > > >> > have experience in trying this.

> > > > > >> >

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

August 13, 2008

Re: Can you use a Win98 PC with dedicated printer attached as a pr

Re: Can you use a Win98 PC with dedicated printer attached as a pr

Ah, that may indeed be your problem. Ati currently only has the latest

driver updates for Ati Radeon 9500 and above. Since Windows Vista is so new

and to take full advantage of Windows Vista you will need an Ati Radeon 9500

or greater. I currently have in my machine a Radeon 9800 XT that I got on

Ebay and it works like a champ in Windows 98 Second Edition and in Windows XP

Professional Service Pack 3. It also fully supports Windows Vista. My

Windows Vista computer is a Toshiba Laptop.

http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/98me/radeonaiw-98me.html

this is copied and copied since this site is a secure website so you will

just have to browse to the information via the main ati site:

AMD Desktop Product Family Support

ATI Radeon™ HD 4800 series

ATI Radeon™ X1300 series

ATI Radeon™ HD 3800 series

ATI Radeon™ X1050 series

ATI Radeon™ HD 3600 series

ATI Radeon™ X850 series

ATI Radeon™ HD 3400 series

ATI Radeon™ X800 series

ATI Radeon™ HD 2900 series

ATI Radeon™ X700 series

ATI Radeon™ HD 2600 series

ATI Radeon™ X600 series

ATI Radeon™ HD 2400 series

ATI Radeon™ X550 series

ATI Radeon™ X1950 series

ATI Radeon™ X300 series

ATI Radeon™ X1900 series

ATI Radeon™ 9800 series

ATI Radeon™ X1800 series

ATI Radeon™ 9700 series

ATI Radeon™ X1650 series

ATI Radeon™ 9600 series

ATI Radeon™ X1600 series

ATI Radeon™ 9550 series

ATI Radeon™ X1550 series

ATI Radeon™ 9500 series

As you can see Windows Vista cannot fully support an Ati Radeon card that is

less than the ATI Radeon 9500 series and that is why you are having color

issues. I don't know if it is in your budget but if it is then I would

update to an ATI Radeon 9800 XT graphics card and then you just use the

Windows ME driver for Windows 98 Second Edition and it works great and is

superior of course to the older Ati Radeon 9200. I had to upgrade from an

ATI Radeon 9000 graphics board to continue to get the latest video drivers to

support my computer gaming habbit.

"Warren" wrote:

> Video card is Radeon 9200, has drivers for Win98SE.

>

> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:9D695E86-71D6-4818-AD6A-2A17F6C3B96C@microsoft.com...

> > What video card do you have and is the video card supported fully in both

> 98

> > Second Edition and Vista? I am pulling straws here and so am indeed open

> if

> > anyone has any better suggestions.

> >

> > "Warren" wrote:

> >

> > > Now for some reason my Win98SE computer will only show icons in low

> colour,

> > > with Printer and HDD sharing activated. Strange but I can live with it.

> :(

> > >

> > > As soon as I deactivate sharing on both HDD and Printer the icons return

> to

> > > high colour.

> > >

> > > "Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

> > > news:eS92B$6%23IHA.4172@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> > > > No wonder so many people don't like Vista, but this looks like the

> > > solution

> > > > alright, thank you very much :)))

> > > >

> > > > "Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

> > > > news:%23l9tj76%23IHA.872@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> > > > > Thanks Jeff, I'll take a look :)))

> > > > >

> > > > > "Jeff Richards" <JRichards@msn.com.au> wrote in message

> > > > > news:u4kxQw3%23IHA.528@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> > > > > > This is actually a Vista issue. To connect a network printer

> using

> > > > Vista

> > > > > > you need to create a local port and connect the printer to that

> port.

> > > > See,

> > > > > > for instance:

> > > > > >

> > > >

> http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=1192680&SiteID=17

> > > > > > --

> > > > > > Jeff Richards

> > > > > > MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)

> > > > > > "Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

> > > > > > news:udwjAZ3%23IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> > > > > > > Interesting, I tried installing as a network printer, Vista

> could

> > > see

> > > > it

> > > > > > > because I enabled printer sharing, but it couldn't communicate

> with

> > > > it.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I thought of a local driver, which I think Vista has, but I'm

> > > unclear

> > > > > how

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > connect it to the Win98 print server.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> > > > > > > news:eVEdJR2%23IHA.1452@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> > > > > > >> Yeah, I just had experience with this, but can't recall the

> exact

> > > > > steps.

> > > > > > >> Sorry. Thing is, you need Vista drivers for the printer, and

> when I

> > > > > tried

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > >> install it manually as a local printer, as per the instructions

> I

> > > > > recall,

> > > > > > > it

> > > > > > >> turns out Vista comes preloaded with every DeskJet printer

> *except*

> > > > > 692C.

> > > > > > >> IOW I'm SOL.

> > > > > > >>

> > > > > > >> But you might be luckier and find the right driver. Then, as I

> > > said,

> > > > > you

> > > > > > >> install in as a local printer (on some free LPT port) and then

> run

> > > > some

> > > > > > >> command to bind it to the remote printer. Others say you can

> create

> > > a

> > > > > new

> > > > > > >> port while installing, but I'm not clear on that one and no

> > > > literature

> > > > > I

> > > > > > >> have come across seems to be very clear, either.

> > > > > > >>

> > > > > > >> --

> > > > > > >> Gary S. Terhune

> > > > > > >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> > > > > > >> http://grystmill.com

> > > > > > >>

> > > > > > >> "Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

> > > > > > >> news:e%23zvkQ1%23IHA.4684@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> > > > > > >> >I can set up my printer to share over network and Vista laptop

> > > sees

> > > > > > > printer

> > > > > > >> > on network but Vista won't connect. Do I have to declare

> this

> > > > legacy

> > > > > > >> > print

> > > > > > >> > server a Win 98SE machine somehow ?

> > > > > > >> >

> > > > > > >> > Probably more a Vista question and I have posted but thought

> > > > someone

> > > > > > > must

> > > > > > >> > have experience in trying this.

> > > > > > >> >

> > > > > > >>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

>

August 14, 2008

Re: Can you use a Win98 PC with dedicated printer attached as a pr

Re: Can you use a Win98 PC with dedicated printer attached as a pr

You've confused me Dan,

I'm looking at a monitor which is attached to my Win98SE machine, and the

monitor is driven by the 9200 Radeon. Why are you bringing Vista into the

picture, it runs on a separate laptop ?

"Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:D3913805-D558-4C69-AE96-BA25D2B7C3DD@microsoft.com...

> Ah, that may indeed be your problem. Ati currently only has the latest

> driver updates for Ati Radeon 9500 and above. Since Windows Vista is so

new

> and to take full advantage of Windows Vista you will need an Ati Radeon

9500

> or greater. I currently have in my machine a Radeon 9800 XT that I got on

> Ebay and it works like a champ in Windows 98 Second Edition and in Windows

XP

> Professional Service Pack 3. It also fully supports Windows Vista. My

> Windows Vista computer is a Toshiba Laptop.

>

> http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/98me/radeonaiw-98me.html

>

> this is copied and copied since this site is a secure website so you will

> just have to browse to the information via the main ati site:

>

> AMD Desktop Product Family Support

>

> ATI RadeonT HD 4800 series

> ATI RadeonT X1300 series

>

> ATI RadeonT HD 3800 series

> ATI RadeonT X1050 series

>

> ATI RadeonT HD 3600 series

> ATI RadeonT X850 series

>

> ATI RadeonT HD 3400 series

> ATI RadeonT X800 series

>

> ATI RadeonT HD 2900 series

> ATI RadeonT X700 series

>

> ATI RadeonT HD 2600 series

> ATI RadeonT X600 series

>

> ATI RadeonT HD 2400 series

> ATI RadeonT X550 series

>

> ATI RadeonT X1950 series

> ATI RadeonT X300 series

>

> ATI RadeonT X1900 series

> ATI RadeonT 9800 series

>

> ATI RadeonT X1800 series

> ATI RadeonT 9700 series

>

> ATI RadeonT X1650 series

> ATI RadeonT 9600 series

>

> ATI RadeonT X1600 series

> ATI RadeonT 9550 series

>

> ATI RadeonT X1550 series

> ATI RadeonT 9500 series

>

> As you can see Windows Vista cannot fully support an Ati Radeon card that

is

> less than the ATI Radeon 9500 series and that is why you are having color

> issues. I don't know if it is in your budget but if it is then I would

> update to an ATI Radeon 9800 XT graphics card and then you just use the

> Windows ME driver for Windows 98 Second Edition and it works great and is

> superior of course to the older Ati Radeon 9200. I had to upgrade from an

> ATI Radeon 9000 graphics board to continue to get the latest video drivers

to

> support my computer gaming habbit.

>

> "Warren" wrote:

>

> > Video card is Radeon 9200, has drivers for Win98SE.

> >

> > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > news:9D695E86-71D6-4818-AD6A-2A17F6C3B96C@microsoft.com...

> > > What video card do you have and is the video card supported fully in

both

> > 98

> > > Second Edition and Vista? I am pulling straws here and so am indeed

open

> > if

> > > anyone has any better suggestions.

> > >

> > > "Warren" wrote:

> > >

> > > > Now for some reason my Win98SE computer will only show icons in low

> > colour,

> > > > with Printer and HDD sharing activated. Strange but I can live with

it.

> > :(

> > > >

> > > > As soon as I deactivate sharing on both HDD and Printer the icons

return

> > to

> > > > high colour.

> > > >

> > > > "Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

> > > > news:eS92B$6%23IHA.4172@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> > > > > No wonder so many people don't like Vista, but this looks like the

> > > > solution

> > > > > alright, thank you very much :)))

> > > > >

> > > > > "Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

> > > > > news:%23l9tj76%23IHA.872@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> > > > > > Thanks Jeff, I'll take a look :)))

> > > > > >

> > > > > > "Jeff Richards" <JRichards@msn.com.au> wrote in message

> > > > > > news:u4kxQw3%23IHA.528@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> > > > > > > This is actually a Vista issue. To connect a network printer

> > using

> > > > > Vista

> > > > > > > you need to create a local port and connect the printer to

that

> > port.

> > > > > See,

> > > > > > > for instance:

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> >

http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=1192680&SiteID=17

> > > > > > > --

> > > > > > > Jeff Richards

> > > > > > > MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)

> > > > > > > "Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

> > > > > > > news:udwjAZ3%23IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> > > > > > > > Interesting, I tried installing as a network printer, Vista

> > could

> > > > see

> > > > > it

> > > > > > > > because I enabled printer sharing, but it couldn't

communicate

> > with

> > > > > it.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I thought of a local driver, which I think Vista has, but

I'm

> > > > unclear

> > > > > > how

> > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > connect it to the Win98 print server.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> > > > > > > > news:eVEdJR2%23IHA.1452@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> > > > > > > >> Yeah, I just had experience with this, but can't recall the

> > exact

> > > > > > steps.

> > > > > > > >> Sorry. Thing is, you need Vista drivers for the printer,

and

> > when I

> > > > > > tried

> > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > >> install it manually as a local printer, as per the

instructions

> > I

> > > > > > recall,

> > > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > >> turns out Vista comes preloaded with every DeskJet printer

> > *except*

> > > > > > 692C.

> > > > > > > >> IOW I'm SOL.

> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > >> But you might be luckier and find the right driver. Then,

as I

> > > > said,

> > > > > > you

> > > > > > > >> install in as a local printer (on some free LPT port) and

then

> > run

> > > > > some

> > > > > > > >> command to bind it to the remote printer. Others say you

can

> > create

> > > > a

> > > > > > new

> > > > > > > >> port while installing, but I'm not clear on that one and no

> > > > > literature

> > > > > > I

> > > > > > > >> have come across seems to be very clear, either.

> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > >> --

> > > > > > > >> Gary S. Terhune

> > > > > > > >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> > > > > > > >> http://grystmill.com

> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > >> "Warren" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

> > > > > > > >> news:e%23zvkQ1%23IHA.4684@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> > > > > > > >> >I can set up my printer to share over network and Vista

laptop

> > > > sees

> > > > > > > > printer

> > > > > > > >> > on network but Vista won't connect. Do I have to declare

> > this

> > > > > legacy

> > > > > > > >> > print

> > > > > > > >> > server a Win 98SE machine somehow ?

> > > > > > > >> >

> > > > > > > >> > Probably more a Vista question and I have posted but

thought

> > > > > someone

> > > > > > > > must

> > > > > > > >> > have experience in trying this.

> > > > > > > >> >

> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> >

August 14, 2008

Re: Can you use a Win98 PC with dedicated printer attached as a pr

Re: Can you use a Win98 PC with dedicated printer attached as a pr

Sorry, for the confusion. The deal is that you need an Ati Radeon 9500 or

greater for the latest drivers and that is why your color is not showing up

prefectly because of what you are trying to do. Ati will only support Radeon

9500 or greater with drivers and since you are hooking 98 SE up to a Vista

laptop which requires a Radeon 9500 or greater then it makes perfect sense

why you cannot view the full color while connecting 98 SE with the Vista

computer. Sorry, I cannot make myself any clearer than that and if you still

don't get it then hopefully someone can explain my words more clearly.

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