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Re: Screen in Win'XP that lists all open progams!

 

Don J wrote:

> Yes, "Add or Remove Programs" compltely uninstalls programs. And it is the

> only way I know of that does. Do ypu know of a better way?

>

> Don J

>

> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

Yes there are better ways of uninstalling like using things such as

ZSoft's Uninstaller.

 

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak/Uninstallers/ZSoft-Uninstaller.shtml

 

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Re: Screen in Win'XP that lists all open progams!

 

He asked for a BETTER way. Your response can lead to disaster.

"BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote in message

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> Don J wrote:

>> Yes, "Add or Remove Programs" compltely uninstalls programs. And it is

>> the only way I know of that does. Do ypu know of a better way?

>>

>> Don J

>>

>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

> Yes there are better ways of uninstalling like using things such as

> ZSoft's Uninstaller.

>

> http://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak/Uninstallers/ZSoft-Uninstaller.shtml

>

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Unknown wrote:

> He asked for a BETTER way. Your response can lead to disaster.

> "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote in message

> news:e9oqFZi$IHA.528@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> Don J wrote:

>>> Yes, "Add or Remove Programs" compltely uninstalls programs. And it is

>>> the only way I know of that does. Do ypu know of a better way?

>>>

>>> Don J

>>>

>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>> Yes there are better ways of uninstalling like using things such as

>> ZSoft's Uninstaller.

>>

>> http://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak/Uninstallers/ZSoft-Uninstaller.shtml

 

How so? Add/Remove Programs historically can't clean up after itself.

Thus why many programs add a shortcut to uninstall itself under

Start -> Programs.

 

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That very simply is not true. The whole purpose of Add/Remove is to

completely clean the system including the registry

when deleting a program. Non MS programs aren't written correctly to do

that. However your solution is far worse.

"BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote in message

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> Unknown wrote:

>> He asked for a BETTER way. Your response can lead to disaster.

>> "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote in message

>> news:e9oqFZi$IHA.528@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> Don J wrote:

>>>> Yes, "Add or Remove Programs" compltely uninstalls programs. And it is

>>>> the only way I know of that does. Do ypu know of a better way?

>>>>

>>>> Don J

>>>>

>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>>> Yes there are better ways of uninstalling like using things such as

>>> ZSoft's Uninstaller.

>>>

>>> http://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak/Uninstallers/ZSoft-Uninstaller.shtml

>

> How so? Add/Remove Programs historically can't clean up after itself. Thus

> why many programs add a shortcut to uninstall itself under

> Start -> Programs.

>

> --

> Bill

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> Windows XP SP2 and Xandros Linux

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Unknown wrote:

> That very simply is not true. The whole purpose of Add/Remove is to

> completely clean the system including the registry

> when deleting a program. Non MS programs aren't written correctly to do

> that. However your solution is far worse.

>

> "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote in message

> news:Ozp%23pHj$IHA.1224@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> Unknown wrote:

>>> He asked for a BETTER way. Your response can lead to disaster.

>>>

>>> "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote in message

>>> news:e9oqFZi$IHA.528@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>> Don J wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>> Yes, "Add or Remove Programs" compltely uninstalls programs. And it is

>>>>> the only way I know of that does. Do ypu know of a better way?

>>>>>

>>>>> Don J

>>>>>

>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>>>> Yes there are better ways of uninstalling like using things such as

>>>> ZSoft's Uninstaller.

>>>>

>>>> http://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak/Uninstallers/ZSoft-Uninstaller.shtml

>>

>> How so? Add/Remove Programs historically can't clean up after itself. Thus

>> why many programs add a shortcut to uninstall itself under

>> Start -> Programs.

 

No! You are wrong! And I am so sure, I'll bet you $500 that you are

wrong! Just Google Add/remove didn't and there are over a million hits.

 

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Guest Ken Blake, MVP

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Re: Screen in Win'XP that lists all open progams!

 

On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:43:56 -0400, "Don J" <dej8800@comcast.net>

wrote:

> Yes, "Add or Remove Programs" compltely uninstalls programs.

 

 

Not necessarily true, and very often not true. Sometimes it completely

uninstalls them. Sometimes (often) it leaves left-over registry

entries. But those left-over entries don't hurt you.

 

> And it is the

> only way I know of that does. Do ypu know of a better way?

 

 

Note that what Add/Remove programs does is invoke the program's own

uninstall routine. If the program comes with an uninstall routine, you

can either use Add/Remove Programs or run the uninstall directly from

the folder it's installed in. Doing it directly isn't any *better*

than Add/Remove programs, but it's the same.

 

If the program doesn't come with an uninstall, there will be no entry

in Add/Remove Programs.

 

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Re: Screen in Win'XP that lists all open progams!

 

Yes, but that's not the issue. The main topic talks about Task Manager and

its various utilities, two of which are terminating applications and

terminating processes. Add or Remove Programs removes the applications from

your system altogether. That is not the topic of this thread.

 

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http://grystmill.com

 

"Don J" <dej8800@comcast.net> wrote in message

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> Yes, "Add or Remove Programs" compltely uninstalls programs. And it is

> the only way I know of that does. Do you know of a better way?

>

> Don J

>

> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:eoApkLW$IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> But you don't stop applications with Add or Remove Programs, you

>> uninstall them completely, making them unavailable for use unless you

>> reinstall them. So we're still not clear about what you're doing, are we?

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://grystmill.com

>>

>> "Don J" <dej8800@comcast.net> wrote in message

>> news:utydnWMa_NB4dT_VnZ2dnUVZ_qXinZ2d@comcast.com...

>>>I stopped it. That stopped it from misbehaving. Then I restarted it

>>>which caused it to run perfectly.

>>>

>>> Don J

>>>

>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>>> news:uLj6haR$IHA.1152@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>> LOL, I wish I could say that made sense, <s>. If I understand you

>>>> correctly, removing the program fixed your problem? Well, it would,

>>>> wouldn't it?

>>>>

>>>> Or am I misunderstanding you? Did you use Add or Remove Programs to

>>>> remove the program? If not, what did you do? Explain in baby steps,

>>>> because you got me real curious..

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>> http://grystmill.com

>>>>

>>>> "Don J" <dej8800@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>> news:4pWdnaoIJstytj_VnZ2dnUVZ_r_inZ2d@comcast.com...

>>>>> "Add or Remove Programs" was exactly what I was lookiing for.

>>>>>

>>>>> It turns out that I had a program that wasn't behaving properly. It

>>>>> was designed to run continually. If I exited Win'XP, it was designed

>>>>> to restart when Win'XP restarted again. Imagine my frustration when

>>>>> the program started misbehaving and I couldn't stop it and restart it

>>>>> again. I tried "Taskmaster", but found that "End Process" didn't quite

>>>>> work as expected. The Process seemed to be removed, but when I went

>>>>> over to the program to reinstall it, it was still running.

>>>>>

>>>>> Then I tried "Add or Remove Programs", and it worked perfectly.

>>>>>

>>>>> Don J

>>>>>

>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>>>>> news:OWK3JQL$IHA.528@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> What you are describing is "Add or Remove Programs" from the Control

>>>>>> Panel. It add or removes applications from the computer entirely (or

>>>>>> as much as the uninstaller does it's job well) and is nothing at all

>>>>>> the same as Task Manager, which only stops tasks or processes from

>>>>>> running. If you used Add or Remove Programs to do that, you wouldn't

>>>>>> be able to start them again.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> You probably managed to accidentally drag the Add or Remove Programs

>>>>>> icon from the Control Panel onto your Quick Launch bar. Just drag the

>>>>>> icon off the bar and into the Recycle Bin.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> --

>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>>>> http://grystmill.com

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Don J" <dej8800@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:L-KdndBk5LTfRjzVnZ2dnUVZ_qfinZ2d@comcast.com...

>>>>>>> No, I am not confusing it with Task Manager. I have two

>>>>>>> installations of

>>>>>>> Win'XP. One has "Add or Remove Programs" installed and one does

>>>>>>> not. In

>>>>>>> the case of the one that has it installed it appears as a specific

>>>>>>> item on

>>>>>>> the takbar. Opening it up shows a single list of all running

>>>>>>> programs. By selecting any particular item on the list, it open it

>>>>>>> up, and there are one or two buttons. The button marked Delete is

>>>>>>> always there. The button marked Modify is sometimes there. By

>>>>>>> pressing the Delete Button one is able to delete the selected

>>>>>>> program. Unlike the "Task Manager" version "Add or Remove Programs"

>>>>>>> has only a single screen.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I don't know where I got it but I would like to add "Add or Remove

>>>>>>> Programs" to the installation that currently does't have it.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:ebKpYPK$IHA.984@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>> Are you asking, or telling? And what are you talking about Add or

>>>>>>>> Remove

>>>>>>>> programs being used for stopping a running program?!?!?!? I think

>>>>>>>> perhaps

>>>>>>>> you are confusing Add or Remove programs with Task Manager.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Don J wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Yeah, but it has to br displayed to close it. "Add or Remove

>>>>>>>>> Programs"

>>>>>>>>> displays all running programs whether displayed on the screen or

>>>>>>>>> not.

>>>>>>>>> Hence you can close any running prgogram even though it is not

>>>>>>>>> displayed

>>>>>>>>> on the screen.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Don J

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> "Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>> news:u2jBz7I$IHA.3392@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>R-click it and select Close.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>Don J wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>I.ve got a Win'XP installation that has a an Item on the Taskbar

>>>>>>>>>>>called:

>>>>>>>>>>>"Add or Remove Pograms". It has all the features you have

>>>>>>>>>>>ciollectively

>>>>>>>>>>>described, except that it is visible at all times. I don't know

>>>>>>>>>>>where I

>>>>>>>>>>>got it. Can anybody help?

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Don J

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>"BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>news:%23%23pfyH%23%23IHA.6132@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>Don J wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>I've seen a screen in Win'XP that lists all the open programs

>>>>>>>>>>>>>and

>>>>>>>>>>>>>allows you to close any or all of them.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>Can't find it. Please help.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>Right click on the unused area of the Taskbar and select Task

>>>>>>>>>>>>Manager.

>>>>>>>>>>>>Or run "taskmgr.exe".

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>--

>>>>>>>>>>>>Bill

>>>>>>>>>>>>Gateway Celeron M 370 (1.5GHZ)

>>>>>>>>>>>>MX6124 (laptop) w/2GB

>>>>>>>>>>>>Windows XP Home SP2 (120GB HD)

>>>>>>>>>>>>Intel® 910GML (64MB shared)

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>

>

Guest Gary S. Terhune

Guest Gary S. Terhune

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Re: Screen in Win'XP that lists all open progams!

 

NO, YOU'RE WRONG!!! (ROFL!!!)

 

Any such applications (uninstallers, clean-up tools, Registry cleaners,

etc.), which ALL primarily *guess* in order to make decisions, are disasters

waiting (IMPATIENTLY, I might add) to happen.

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://grystmill.com

 

"BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote in message

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> Unknown wrote:

>> That very simply is not true. The whole purpose of Add/Remove is to

>> completely clean the system including the registry

>> when deleting a program. Non MS programs aren't written correctly to do

>> that. However your solution is far worse.

> >

>> "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote in message

>> news:Ozp%23pHj$IHA.1224@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>> Unknown wrote:

>>>> He asked for a BETTER way. Your response can lead to disaster.

>>>>

>>>> "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote in message

>>>> news:e9oqFZi$IHA.528@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>> Don J wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Yes, "Add or Remove Programs" compltely uninstalls programs. And it

>>>>>> is the only way I know of that does. Do ypu know of a better way?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Don J

>>>>>>

>>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>>>>> Yes there are better ways of uninstalling like using things such as

>>>>> ZSoft's Uninstaller.

>>>>>

>>>>> http://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak/Uninstallers/ZSoft-Uninstaller.shtml

> >>

>>> How so? Add/Remove Programs historically can't clean up after itself.

>>> Thus why many programs add a shortcut to uninstall itself under

>>> Start -> Programs.

>

> No! You are wrong! And I am so sure, I'll bet you $500 that you are wrong!

> Just Google Add/remove didn't and there are over a million hits.

>

> --

> Bill

> Black Asus EEE PC 4GB 2GB SoDIMM Adata 16GB

> Windows XP SP2 and Xandros Linux

Guest BillW50

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In news:%23WCxqKk$IHA.1152@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl,

Gary S. Terhune typed on Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:19:33 -0700:

> NO, YOU'RE WRONG!!! (ROFL!!!)

>

> Any such applications (uninstallers, clean-up tools, Registry

> cleaners, etc.), which ALL primarily *guess* in order to make

> decisions, are disasters waiting (IMPATIENTLY, I might add) to happen.

>

> "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote in message

> news:OSUqpYj$IHA.4684@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> Unknown wrote:

>>> That very simply is not true. The whole purpose of Add/Remove is to

>>> completely clean the system including the registry

>>> when deleting a program. Non MS programs aren't written correctly

>>> to do that. However your solution is far worse.

>>>

>>> "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote in message

>>> news:Ozp%23pHj$IHA.1224@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>> Unknown wrote:

>>>>> He asked for a BETTER way. Your response can lead to disaster.

>>>>>

>>>>> "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote in message

>>>>> news:e9oqFZi$IHA.528@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> Don J wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Yes, "Add or Remove Programs" compltely uninstalls programs. And it

>>>>>>> is the only way I know of that does. Do ypu know of a

>>>>>>> better way? Don

>>>>>>> J -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>>>>>> Yes there are better ways of uninstalling like using things such

>>>>>> as ZSoft's Uninstaller.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> http://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak/Uninstallers/ZSoft-Uninstaller.shtml

>>>>

>>>> How so? Add/Remove Programs historically can't clean up after

>>>> itself. Thus why many programs add a shortcut to uninstall itself

>>>> under Start -> Programs.

>>

>> No! You are wrong! And I am so sure, I'll bet you $500 that you are

>> wrong! Just Google Add/remove didn't and there are over a million

>> hits.

 

Okay Gary! Show me *one* single user who was harmed by ZSoft's Uninstaller?

 

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Guest Gary S. Terhune

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I don't have to. It belongs to a *class* of applications that are ALL

dangerous in this manner. I HAVE seen dozens of systems totally wrecked by

various members of that class of application.

 

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MS-MVP Shell/User

http://grystmill.com

 

"BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote in message

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> In news:%23WCxqKk$IHA.1152@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl,

> Gary S. Terhune typed on Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:19:33 -0700:

>> NO, YOU'RE WRONG!!! (ROFL!!!)

>>

>> Any such applications (uninstallers, clean-up tools, Registry

>> cleaners, etc.), which ALL primarily *guess* in order to make

>> decisions, are disasters waiting (IMPATIENTLY, I might add) to happen.

>>

>> "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote in message

>> news:OSUqpYj$IHA.4684@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> Unknown wrote:

>>>> That very simply is not true. The whole purpose of Add/Remove is to

>>>> completely clean the system including the registry

>>>> when deleting a program. Non MS programs aren't written correctly

>>>> to do that. However your solution is far worse.

>>>>

>>>> "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote in message

>>>> news:Ozp%23pHj$IHA.1224@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>> Unknown wrote:

>>>>>> He asked for a BETTER way. Your response can lead to disaster.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:e9oqFZi$IHA.528@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>> Don J wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Yes, "Add or Remove Programs" compltely uninstalls programs. And it

>>>>>>>> is the only way I know of that does. Do ypu know of a

>>>>>>>> better way? Don

>>>>>>>> J -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>>>>>>> Yes there are better ways of uninstalling like using things such

>>>>>>> as ZSoft's Uninstaller.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> http://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak/Uninstallers/ZSoft-Uninstaller.shtml

>>>>>

>>>>> How so? Add/Remove Programs historically can't clean up after

>>>>> itself. Thus why many programs add a shortcut to uninstall itself

>>>>> under Start -> Programs.

>>>

>>> No! You are wrong! And I am so sure, I'll bet you $500 that you are

>>> wrong! Just Google Add/remove didn't and there are over a million

>>> hits.

>

> Okay Gary! Show me *one* single user who was harmed by ZSoft's

> Uninstaller?

>

> --

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> Black Asus EEE PC 4GB 2GB SoDIMM Adata 16GB

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>

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In news:uk2916m$IHA.1152@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl,

Gary S. Terhune typed on Thu, 14 Aug 2008 17:34:50 -0700:

> I don't have to. It belongs to a *class* of applications that are ALL

> dangerous in this manner. I HAVE seen dozens of systems totally

> wrecked by various members of that class of application.

 

Really? I saw it once since '81 with my first personal computer. Never with

Zsoft's Unintaller.

 

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Really.

 

And your one computer hardly constitutes a significant sample.

 

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> In news:uk2916m$IHA.1152@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl,

> Gary S. Terhune typed on Thu, 14 Aug 2008 17:34:50 -0700:

>> I don't have to. It belongs to a *class* of applications that are ALL

>> dangerous in this manner. I HAVE seen dozens of systems totally

>> wrecked by various members of that class of application.

>

> Really? I saw it once since '81 with my first personal computer. Never

> with Zsoft's Unintaller.

>

> --

> Bill

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> Windows XP SP2 and Xandros Linux

>

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In news:ukrjGOp$IHA.2244@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl,

Gary S. Terhune <none> typed on Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:58:22 -0700:

> Really.

>

> And your one computer hardly constitutes a significant sample.

>

> "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote in message

> news:eEcc9uo$IHA.1296@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> In news:uk2916m$IHA.1152@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl,

>> Gary S. Terhune typed on Thu, 14 Aug 2008 17:34:50 -0700:

>>> I don't have to. It belongs to a *class* of applications that are

>>> ALL dangerous in this manner. I HAVE seen dozens of systems totally

>>> wrecked by various members of that class of application.

>>

>> Really? I saw it once since '81 with my first personal computer.

>> Never with Zsoft's Unintaller.

 

Really? I am on my 22nd computer since '81.

 

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In news:tcs8a4hnf8amhpkrlbv7kgqjtrhd3d88rt@4ax.com,

Ken Blake, MVP typed on Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:01:05 -0700:

> On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:43:56 -0400, "Don J" wrote:

>

>> Yes, "Add or Remove Programs" compltely uninstalls programs.

>

> Not necessarily true, and very often not true. Sometimes it completely

> uninstalls them. Sometimes (often) it leaves left-over registry

> entries. But those left-over entries don't hurt you...

 

Really? Just Google "McAfee won't uninstall" and learn otherwise.

 

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22 is still a pitiful sample. It also implies that you are REALLY hard on

computers! You buy or build a new computer every nine months? For personal

use? That doesn't speak well of your computer maintenance habits.

 

And you're a downright LIAR when you imply that you've used ZSoft

Uninstaller since '81. The author didn't even produce the first version

until 4 years ago.

 

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> In news:ukrjGOp$IHA.2244@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl,

> Gary S. Terhune <none> typed on Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:58:22 -0700:

>> Really.

>>

>> And your one computer hardly constitutes a significant sample.

>>

>> "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote in message

>> news:eEcc9uo$IHA.1296@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>> In news:uk2916m$IHA.1152@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl,

>>> Gary S. Terhune typed on Thu, 14 Aug 2008 17:34:50 -0700:

>>>> I don't have to. It belongs to a *class* of applications that are

>>>> ALL dangerous in this manner. I HAVE seen dozens of systems totally

>>>> wrecked by various members of that class of application.

>>>

>>> Really? I saw it once since '81 with my first personal computer.

>>> Never with Zsoft's Unintaller.

>

> Really? I am on my 22nd computer since '81.

>

> --

> Bill

> Gateway Celeron M 370 (1.5GHZ)

> MX6124 (laptop) w/2GB

> Windows XP Home SP2 (120GB HD)

> Intel® 910GML (64MB shared)

>

Guest Bill

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RE: Screen in Win'XP that lists all open progams!

 

 

 

"unknown" wrote:

> I am running Windows XP, I have recently lost my ability to view The Start menue plus I had some of my most used Iconsalong the botton in quick start area, I need to retreve this HOW!!

 

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Guest Gary S. Terhune

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Re: Screen in Win'XP that lists all open progams!

 

Obviously a mistake in math there, but even then...

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://grystmill.com

 

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:O3HaW2w$IHA.3648@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> 22 is still a pitiful sample. It also implies that you are REALLY hard on

> computers! You buy or build a new computer every nine months? For personal

> use? That doesn't speak well of your computer maintenance habits.

>

> And you're a downright LIAR when you imply that you've used ZSoft

> Uninstaller since '81. The author didn't even produce the first version

> until 4 years ago.

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://grystmill.com

>

> "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote in message

> news:%23kyxNxt$IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> In news:ukrjGOp$IHA.2244@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl,

>> Gary S. Terhune <none> typed on Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:58:22 -0700:

>>> Really.

>>>

>>> And your one computer hardly constitutes a significant sample.

>>>

>>> "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote in message

>>> news:eEcc9uo$IHA.1296@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>> In news:uk2916m$IHA.1152@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl,

>>>> Gary S. Terhune typed on Thu, 14 Aug 2008 17:34:50 -0700:

>>>>> I don't have to. It belongs to a *class* of applications that are

>>>>> ALL dangerous in this manner. I HAVE seen dozens of systems totally

>>>>> wrecked by various members of that class of application.

>>>>

>>>> Really? I saw it once since '81 with my first personal computer.

>>>> Never with Zsoft's Unintaller.

>>

>> Really? I am on my 22nd computer since '81.

>>

>> --

>> Bill

>> Gateway Celeron M 370 (1.5GHZ)

>> MX6124 (laptop) w/2GB

>> Windows XP Home SP2 (120GB HD)

>> Intel® 910GML (64MB shared)

>>

>

>

  • 2 months later...
Guest BillW50

Guest BillW50

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Re: Screen in Win'XP that lists all open progams!

 

In news:O3HaW2w$IHA.3648@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl,

Gary S. Terhune typed on Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:26:53 -0700:

> 22 is still a pitiful sample. It also implies that you are REALLY

> hard on computers! You buy or build a new computer every nine months?

> For personal use? That doesn't speak well of your computer

> maintenance habits.

> And you're a downright LIAR when you imply that you've used ZSoft

> Uninstaller since '81. The author didn't even produce the first

> version until 4 years ago.

>

> "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote in message

> news:%23kyxNxt$IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> In news:ukrjGOp$IHA.2244@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl,

>> Gary S. Terhune <none> typed on Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:58:22 -0700:

>>> Really.

>>>

>>> And your one computer hardly constitutes a significant sample.

>>>

>>> "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote in message

>>> news:eEcc9uo$IHA.1296@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>> In news:uk2916m$IHA.1152@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl,

>>>> Gary S. Terhune typed on Thu, 14 Aug 2008 17:34:50 -0700:

>>>>> I don't have to. It belongs to a *class* of applications that are

>>>>> ALL dangerous in this manner. I HAVE seen dozens of systems

>>>>> totally wrecked by various members of that class of application.

>>>>

>>>> Really? I saw it once since '81 with my first personal computer.

>>>> Never with Zsoft's Unintaller.

>>

>> Really? I am on my 22nd computer since '81.

 

No actually Gary, I buy cheap and often. And those 22 computers, 20 of them

still work fine. They are just outdated and not as useful compared to the

latest group of computers I have. I have also used more than one computer to

multitask and I continue this practice to this very day.

 

Yes it helps greatly since multitasking OS, but one task still can hog the

whole CPU time. Video converting and sometimes real time video recording

comes to mind. Burning CD/DVD also comes to mind. Also when you do updates

or installing some applications, requires rebooting sometimes. With multiple

computers, I'm always up 24/7. Which is far better than most corporations

can say.

 

I also find that having more than one computer is very useful in case

disaster strikes. Say a hard drive fails, RAM going bad, motherboard

failure, install disaster, etc. I am still up and running regardless.

Actually in all of these years, I only had two hard drives fail (both in the

90's) and only one memory stick gone bad. I guess the moral of the story is

be prepared and then you have nothing to worry about it.

 

I don't know how you got the idea that I have been using ZSoft since '81. As

I only have been using it for the last few years. I find it to be a

wonderful piece of software. I never seen it screw anything up yet. ;-)

 

--

Bill

Gateway MX6124 - Windows XP SP2

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