Guest John Eppley Posted August 12, 2008 Posted August 12, 2008 Greetings...I am stumped. I just purchased a WD external HD for "backup" purposes. I am using XP Professional which came installed on my HP. I used the XP BACKUP and selected that a recovery disk be created. The backup went smoothly. Unfortunately XP asked me to use a "floppy" disk to create the backup media. Not possible. It booted me out. There must be a workaround. BTW, I believe I checked every knowledgebase article. Can I use a CD or DVD to make the backup media, and how??? John
Guest Jo-Anne Posted August 12, 2008 Posted August 12, 2008 Re: Automated system recovery Hi, John, Check out Patrick Keenan's response to my query with the same subject line; it appeared in this forum yesterday. Essentially, no, you can't use anything but a floppy drive with ASR. If you have a notebook computer, you'd need to buy an external floppy drive. A far better backup approach, though, is a third-party backup program, such as Acronis True Image, Casper, or Ghost. You can back up to just about anything with them. Jo-Anne "John Eppley" <jeppley@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message news:%23U63YGN$IHA.4616@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Greetings...I am stumped. I just purchased a WD external HD for "backup" > purposes. I am using XP Professional which came installed on my HP. I used > the XP BACKUP and selected that a recovery disk be created. The backup > went smoothly. Unfortunately XP asked me to use a "floppy" disk to create > the backup media. Not possible. It booted me out. There must be a > workaround. BTW, I believe I checked every knowledgebase article. Can I > use a CD or DVD to make the backup media, and how??? > > John >
Guest John Eppley Posted August 12, 2008 Posted August 12, 2008 Re: Automated system recovery I forgot to mention that Knowledgebase article 315255 claims I can create the required ASR using a tape or Hard Drive. My external disk is a hard drive.
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 Re: Automated system recovery That article in no way addresses ASR. Doesn't even mention it. Talks about an entirely different problem. Read it again. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "John Eppley" <jeppley@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message news:uV2E1PN$IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >I forgot to mention that Knowledgebase article 315255 claims I can create >the required ASR using a tape or Hard Drive. My external disk is a hard >drive. > >
Guest John Eppley Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 Re: Automated system recovery Thanks for your input. Should my HD "crash", will the Acronis software allow me to boot then copy the files from the external HD?? In other words..... is it bootable?? Regarding 315255 info. I was led to this article from another knowledgebase discussion. I followed the path and assumed I was in the right playing field. Please note that the article says it applies to XP Professional.
Guest Jo-Anne Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 Re: Automated system recovery What you do is create a bootable CD using the Acronis software. It boots directly into Acronis and allows you to restore from your external HD. For lots of information about the program, I recommend the Acronis support forum: http://www.wilderssecurity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=65 You can download a free trial of the program at http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/trueimage/ It's a complex program with a long, detailed manual; but you can do simple backups by following the directions in a wonderful beginner's guide written by one of the forum members. It's at http://www.wilderssecurity.com/supportfiles/gh-acronis-backup1.pdf Jo-Anne "John Eppley" <jeppley@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message news:OUDa53N$IHA.5048@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Thanks for your input. Should my HD "crash", will the Acronis software > allow me to boot then copy the files from the external HD?? In other > words..... is it bootable?? > > Regarding 315255 info. I was led to this article from another > knowledgebase discussion. I followed the path and assumed I was in the > right playing field. Please note that the article says it applies to XP > Professional. >
Guest Meebers Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 Re: Automated system recovery The recovery disk (cd/DVD) will allow you to boot. From there you choose the image and the destination. Then you should be able to boot from the main HDD as it was on the day you made the image. "John Eppley" <jeppley@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message news:OUDa53N$IHA.5048@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Thanks for your input. Should my HD "crash", will the Acronis software > allow me to boot then copy the files from the external HD?? In other > words..... is it bootable?? > > Regarding 315255 info. I was led to this article from another > knowledgebase discussion. I followed the path and assumed I was in the > right playing field. Please note that the article says it applies to XP > Professional. >
Guest Patrick Keenan Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 Re: Automated system recovery "John Eppley" <jeppley@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message news:%23U63YGN$IHA.4616@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Greetings...I am stumped. I just purchased a WD external HD for "backup" > purposes. I am using XP Professional which came installed on my HP. I used > the XP BACKUP and selected that a recovery disk be created. The backup > went smoothly. Unfortunately XP asked me to use a "floppy" disk to create > the backup media. Not possible. It booted me out. There must be a > workaround. BTW, I believe I checked every knowledgebase article. Can I > use a CD or DVD to make the backup media, and how??? > > John No, you can't use anything but a floppy. Your workaround is to get a USB floppy drive and diskettes, or use just a few dollars more to get a modern imaging program that does not require floppies and will write to optical media. Examples are Acronis True Image and Norton Ghost, there are a number of others. You've found one of the reasons many people buy 3rd party applications for this. HTH -pk
Guest Patrick Keenan Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 Re: Automated system recovery "John Eppley" <jeppley@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message news:OUDa53N$IHA.5048@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Thanks for your input. Should my HD "crash", will the Acronis software > allow me to boot then copy the files from the external HD?? In other > words..... is it bootable?? Absolutely. TrueImage, and likely Ghost and others, allow you to create a bootable CD or DVD that will then mount and install your image files. Plus, it will handle many of your regular primary and incremental backup needs. It usually takes me around an hour to image or recreate a full system in this way. TrueImage is in the $50 range, and I find it worth the money. Check out the free trial version, which runs for about two weeks. HTH -pk > > Regarding 315255 info. I was led to this article from another > knowledgebase discussion. I followed the path and assumed I was in the > right playing field. Please note that the article says it applies to XP > Professional. >
Guest Patrick Keenan Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 Re: Automated system recovery "John Eppley" <jeppley@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message news:uV2E1PN$IHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >I forgot to mention that Knowledgebase article 315255 claims I can create >the required ASR using a tape or Hard Drive. My external disk is a hard >drive. Yes. While the article doesn't mention ASR, ASR is an "advanced" though comparatively rather primitive function of ntbackup. And ntbackup can't deal with optical disks, only tape or hard disks. You do want to be sure that ntbackup *can find* your hard disk at bootup. Unfortunately it's a little risky to test this. I personally don't bother. I use TrueImage, which finds all the disks I use and has not let me down in several years. HTH -pk
Guest Twayne Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 Re: Automated system recovery > Greetings...I am stumped. I just purchased a WD external HD for > "backup" purposes. I am using XP Professional which came installed on > my HP. I used the XP BACKUP and selected that a recovery disk be > created. The backup went smoothly. Unfortunately XP asked me to use a > "floppy" disk to create the backup media. Not possible. It booted me > out. There must be a workaround. BTW, I believe I checked every > knowledgebase article. Can I use a CD or DVD to make the backup > media, and how??? > John For ASR, it is not your backup it wants to put on the floppy. What goes on the floppy is the information to be able to get things going to recover from a catostrophic failure and it's still going to look for your "big" backup files on disk, or CD, DVD, or wherever you sent those to. The floppy IS needed, is bootable, and is what you use to get a catastrophic recovering going. Floppy drives are cheap; like $10. And easy to find. So if you don't have one, it's easy enough to get one. OTOH you'll never need the ASR floppy if you don'thave a drive failure. You need to read up more on what the ASR is, I think. Each ASR is also connected to its own set of backup data, so each full backup should get its own ASR disk. As someone else mentioned, it is a lot easier and smoother to use imaging software, but it costs a little more though a lot less than $100. Norton Ghost and Acronis True IMage are the two most often used ones out there. BootItNG is good if you're a techi type but it's not that user friendly for most people. HTH
Guest John Eppley Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 Re: Automated system recovery Jo-Ann: Thanks for your rapid and courteous reply. Your advice makes sense. I have downloaded the 15 day trial of Acronis True Image 11 Home as suggested. I now have two choices....install a 3.5 floppy, or purchase the Acronis program. Again, thanks for your inputs.
Guest Jo-Anne Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 Re: Automated system recovery Glad I could help. FWIW, Acronis is $29.99 with free shipping for the boxed version at Newegg.com--a reputable retailer. For some reason, the download is more expensive. If you get the boxed version, the CD of the program is bootable. I burned my own anyway, though, just to make sure I could do it with the software. "John Eppley" <jeppley@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message news:%23mGGC8U$IHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Jo-Ann: Thanks for your rapid and courteous reply. Your advice makes > sense. I have downloaded the 15 day trial of Acronis True Image 11 Home > as suggested. I now have two choices....install a 3.5 floppy, or purchase > the Acronis program. Again, thanks for your inputs. > > > >
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