Guest steve Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 Where is the download link for the 120-day trial Windows XP 64-bit version? The web site keeps sending me to Vista pages. i don't want VISTA!
Guest Mike Hall - MVP Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 Re: Windows XP 64bit "steve" <steve@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:8A03689E-4971-4FB8-BF6B-34A4B7D00B6F@microsoft.com... > Where is the download link for the 120-day trial Windows XP 64-bit > version? > The web site keeps sending me to Vista pages. i don't want VISTA! Not available anymore.. get Vista.. -- Mike Hall - MVP How to construct a good post.. http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups.. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc Mike's Window - My Blog.. http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
Guest steve Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 Re: Windows XP 64bit Not interested in Vista garbage. May as well use Windows ME. "Mike Hall - MVP" wrote: > "steve" <steve@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:8A03689E-4971-4FB8-BF6B-34A4B7D00B6F@microsoft.com... > > Where is the download link for the 120-day trial Windows XP 64-bit > > version? > > The web site keeps sending me to Vista pages. i don't want VISTA! > > > Not available anymore.. get Vista.. > > -- > Mike Hall - MVP > How to construct a good post.. > http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm > How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups.. > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc > Mike's Window - My Blog.. > http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx > > > > >
Guest Mike Hall - MVP Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 Re: Windows XP 64bit "steve" <steve@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:E671551A-B8EB-4BD2-A7E9-86C468FD5BA4@microsoft.com... > Not interested in Vista garbage. May as well use Windows ME. > > "Mike Hall - MVP" wrote: > >> "steve" <steve@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:8A03689E-4971-4FB8-BF6B-34A4B7D00B6F@microsoft.com... >> > Where is the download link for the 120-day trial Windows XP 64-bit >> > version? >> > The web site keeps sending me to Vista pages. i don't want VISTA! >> >> >> Not available anymore.. get Vista.. >> >> -- >> Mike Hall - MVP >> How to construct a good post.. >> http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm >> How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups.. >> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc >> Mike's Window - My Blog.. >> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx >> >> >> >> >> Not true.. have you tried it for yourself or just taking what others say as gospel? -- Mike Hall - MVP How to construct a good post.. http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups.. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc Mike's Window - My Blog.. http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
Guest steve Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 Re: Windows XP 64bit What I want to do is take my Q6600 gaming machine, which I just built 6 months ago, and which currently has Windows XP professional 32-bit on it, and make it a dual-boot by putting Windows XP 64bit on a clean HD, and going from there. I don't want to make it dual-boot wherewby 1 OS is Vista of any flavor. "Mike Hall - MVP" wrote: > "steve" <steve@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:E671551A-B8EB-4BD2-A7E9-86C468FD5BA4@microsoft.com... > > Not interested in Vista garbage. May as well use Windows ME. > > > > "Mike Hall - MVP" wrote: > > > >> "steve" <steve@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> news:8A03689E-4971-4FB8-BF6B-34A4B7D00B6F@microsoft.com... > >> > Where is the download link for the 120-day trial Windows XP 64-bit > >> > version? > >> > The web site keeps sending me to Vista pages. i don't want VISTA! > >> > >> > >> Not available anymore.. get Vista.. > >> > >> -- > >> Mike Hall - MVP > >> How to construct a good post.. > >> http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm > >> How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups.. > >> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc > >> Mike's Window - My Blog.. > >> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > Not true.. have you tried it for yourself or just taking what others say as > gospel? > > > -- > Mike Hall - MVP > How to construct a good post.. > http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm > How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups.. > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc > Mike's Window - My Blog.. > http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx > > > > >
Guest VanguardLH Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 Re: Windows XP 64bit steve wrote: > What I want to do is take my Q6600 gaming machine, which I just built 6 > months ago, and which currently has Windows XP professional 32-bit on it, and > make it a dual-boot by putting Windows XP 64bit on a clean HD, and going from > there. I don't want to make it dual-boot wherewby 1 OS is Vista of any > flavor. Do you have any 64-bit games that demand a 64-bit version of Windows? If your "gaming machine" is not for playing games, for what applications do you need a 64-bit version of Windows?
Guest Onsokumaru Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 Re: Windows XP 64bit "VanguardLH" <V@nguard.LH> wrote in message news:BoidnbeGcd_-0zvVnZ2dnUVZ_h-dnZ2d@comcast.com... > steve wrote: > >> What I want to do is take my Q6600 gaming machine, which I just built 6 >> months ago, and which currently has Windows XP professional 32-bit on it, >> and >> make it a dual-boot by putting Windows XP 64bit on a clean HD, and going >> from >> there. I don't want to make it dual-boot wherewby 1 OS is Vista of any >> flavor. > > Do you have any 64-bit games that demand a 64-bit version of Windows? > If your "gaming machine" is not for playing games, for what applications > do you need a 64-bit version of Windows? I have a similar setup, with same proc but dual booting 32 and 64 bit XP. There is no benefit. Driver support for XP 64 bit isn't great and not all 32 bit programs work. Since it's a trial the OP may as well try the Vista 64 bit. I didn't notice one extra bit of gain from using a 64 bit OS to play games. To take advantage you really need 64 bit programs.
Guest steve Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 Re: Windows XP 64bit I see :) One thing I was hoping to gain was access to the rest of my memory. It is equipped with 4 GB of ram, partly becuase of limited options of ram in-stock at the time I was purchasing other parts for the system. My gaming is mostly limited to Second Life at the moment, which gets along better with XP than Vista. I also use the system for some software development, and creating graphics. I thought that a dual-boot configuration would allow me to see just how many problems I would have with 64-bit, without giving up 32-bit operation. "Onsokumaru" wrote: > > "VanguardLH" <V@nguard.LH> wrote in message > news:BoidnbeGcd_-0zvVnZ2dnUVZ_h-dnZ2d@comcast.com... > > steve wrote: > > > >> What I want to do is take my Q6600 gaming machine, which I just built 6 > >> months ago, and which currently has Windows XP professional 32-bit on it, > >> and > >> make it a dual-boot by putting Windows XP 64bit on a clean HD, and going > >> from > >> there. I don't want to make it dual-boot wherewby 1 OS is Vista of any > >> flavor. > > > > Do you have any 64-bit games that demand a 64-bit version of Windows? > > If your "gaming machine" is not for playing games, for what applications > > do you need a 64-bit version of Windows? > > I have a similar setup, with same proc but dual booting 32 and 64 bit XP. > > There is no benefit. Driver support for XP 64 bit isn't great and not all 32 > bit programs work. > > Since it's a trial the OP may as well try the Vista 64 bit. > > I didn't notice one extra bit of gain from using a 64 bit OS to play games. > To take advantage you really need 64 bit programs. > > >
Guest John John (MVP) Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 Re: Windows XP 64bit How old is your computer? Does your chipset support at least 8GB of address space? Can you remap memory addresses above the 4GB barier (in the BIOS)? You realize that you will have to enter the BIOS and remap the memory every time you switch from 32 to 64-bits. John steve wrote: > I see :) > > One thing I was hoping to gain was access to the rest of my memory. It is > equipped with 4 GB of ram, partly becuase of limited options of ram in-stock > at the time I was purchasing other parts for the system. My gaming is mostly > limited to Second Life at the moment, which gets along better with XP than > Vista. I also use the system for some software development, and creating > graphics. I thought that a dual-boot configuration would allow me to see > just how many problems I would have with 64-bit, without giving up 32-bit > operation. > > "Onsokumaru" wrote: > > >>"VanguardLH" <V@nguard.LH> wrote in message >>news:BoidnbeGcd_-0zvVnZ2dnUVZ_h-dnZ2d@comcast.com... >> >>>steve wrote: >>> >>> >>>>What I want to do is take my Q6600 gaming machine, which I just built 6 >>>>months ago, and which currently has Windows XP professional 32-bit on it, >>>>and >>>>make it a dual-boot by putting Windows XP 64bit on a clean HD, and going >>>>from >>>>there. I don't want to make it dual-boot wherewby 1 OS is Vista of any >>>>flavor. >>> >>>Do you have any 64-bit games that demand a 64-bit version of Windows? >>>If your "gaming machine" is not for playing games, for what applications >>>do you need a 64-bit version of Windows? >> >>I have a similar setup, with same proc but dual booting 32 and 64 bit XP. >> >>There is no benefit. Driver support for XP 64 bit isn't great and not all 32 >>bit programs work. >> >>Since it's a trial the OP may as well try the Vista 64 bit. >> >>I didn't notice one extra bit of gain from using a 64 bit OS to play games. >>To take advantage you really need 64 bit programs. >> >> >>
Guest steve Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 Re: Windows XP 64bit I built the computer in February 2008. The motherboard is an XFX MB-N780-ISH9, featuring nForce 780i (Newegg Item #N82E16813141005). A great many things are supported on this board, and I am in the process of researching memory remapping. It does support Dynamic Bios changes, although to-date I haven't needed to use the supplied utility to accomplish this. "John John (MVP)" wrote: > How old is your computer? Does your chipset support at least 8GB of > address space? Can you remap memory addresses above the 4GB barier (in > the BIOS)? You realize that you will have to enter the BIOS and remap > the memory every time you switch from 32 to 64-bits. > > John > > steve wrote: > > > I see :) > > > > One thing I was hoping to gain was access to the rest of my memory. It is > > equipped with 4 GB of ram, partly becuase of limited options of ram in-stock > > at the time I was purchasing other parts for the system. My gaming is mostly > > limited to Second Life at the moment, which gets along better with XP than > > Vista. I also use the system for some software development, and creating > > graphics. I thought that a dual-boot configuration would allow me to see > > just how many problems I would have with 64-bit, without giving up 32-bit > > operation. > > > > "Onsokumaru" wrote: > > > > > >>"VanguardLH" <V@nguard.LH> wrote in message > >>news:BoidnbeGcd_-0zvVnZ2dnUVZ_h-dnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> > >>>steve wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>What I want to do is take my Q6600 gaming machine, which I just built 6 > >>>>months ago, and which currently has Windows XP professional 32-bit on it, > >>>>and > >>>>make it a dual-boot by putting Windows XP 64bit on a clean HD, and going > >>>>from > >>>>there. I don't want to make it dual-boot wherewby 1 OS is Vista of any > >>>>flavor. > >>> > >>>Do you have any 64-bit games that demand a 64-bit version of Windows? > >>>If your "gaming machine" is not for playing games, for what applications > >>>do you need a 64-bit version of Windows? > >> > >>I have a similar setup, with same proc but dual booting 32 and 64 bit XP. > >> > >>There is no benefit. Driver support for XP 64 bit isn't great and not all 32 > >>bit programs work. > >> > >>Since it's a trial the OP may as well try the Vista 64 bit. > >> > >>I didn't notice one extra bit of gain from using a 64 bit OS to play games. > >>To take advantage you really need 64 bit programs. > >> > >> > >> >
Guest John John (MVP) Posted August 17, 2008 Posted August 17, 2008 Re: Windows XP 64bit The board supports 8GB of RAM and the chipset supports 64-bit operating systems so if you have a 64-bit processor on it you should be fine. John steve wrote: > I built the computer in February 2008. The motherboard is an XFX > MB-N780-ISH9, featuring nForce 780i (Newegg Item #N82E16813141005). A great > many things are supported on this board, and I am in the process of > researching memory remapping. It does support Dynamic Bios changes, although > to-date I haven't needed to use the supplied utility to accomplish this. > > "John John (MVP)" wrote: > > >>How old is your computer? Does your chipset support at least 8GB of >>address space? Can you remap memory addresses above the 4GB barier (in >>the BIOS)? You realize that you will have to enter the BIOS and remap >>the memory every time you switch from 32 to 64-bits. >> >>John >> >>steve wrote: >> >> >>>I see :) >>> >>>One thing I was hoping to gain was access to the rest of my memory. It is >>>equipped with 4 GB of ram, partly becuase of limited options of ram in-stock >>>at the time I was purchasing other parts for the system. My gaming is mostly >>>limited to Second Life at the moment, which gets along better with XP than >>>Vista. I also use the system for some software development, and creating >>>graphics. I thought that a dual-boot configuration would allow me to see >>>just how many problems I would have with 64-bit, without giving up 32-bit >>>operation. >>> >>>"Onsokumaru" wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>"VanguardLH" <V@nguard.LH> wrote in message >>>>news:BoidnbeGcd_-0zvVnZ2dnUVZ_h-dnZ2d@comcast.com... >>>> >>>> >>>>>steve wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>What I want to do is take my Q6600 gaming machine, which I just built 6 >>>>>>months ago, and which currently has Windows XP professional 32-bit on it, >>>>>>and >>>>>>make it a dual-boot by putting Windows XP 64bit on a clean HD, and going >>>>>>from >>>>>>there. I don't want to make it dual-boot wherewby 1 OS is Vista of any >>>>>>flavor. >>>>> >>>>>Do you have any 64-bit games that demand a 64-bit version of Windows? >>>>>If your "gaming machine" is not for playing games, for what applications >>>>>do you need a 64-bit version of Windows? >>>> >>>>I have a similar setup, with same proc but dual booting 32 and 64 bit XP. >>>> >>>>There is no benefit. Driver support for XP 64 bit isn't great and not all 32 >>>>bit programs work. >>>> >>>>Since it's a trial the OP may as well try the Vista 64 bit. >>>> >>>>I didn't notice one extra bit of gain from using a 64 bit OS to play games. >>>>To take advantage you really need 64 bit programs. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>
Guest steve Posted August 17, 2008 Posted August 17, 2008 Re: Windows XP 64bit Good. Thank you. Yes, I have a 64-bit processor installed now. A Q6600. Sounds like I'm all set. "John John (MVP)" wrote: > The board supports 8GB of RAM and the chipset supports 64-bit operating > systems so if you have a 64-bit processor on it you should be fine. > > John > > steve wrote: > > > I built the computer in February 2008. The motherboard is an XFX > > MB-N780-ISH9, featuring nForce 780i (Newegg Item #N82E16813141005). A great > > many things are supported on this board, and I am in the process of > > researching memory remapping. It does support Dynamic Bios changes, although > > to-date I haven't needed to use the supplied utility to accomplish this. > > > > "John John (MVP)" wrote: > > > > > >>How old is your computer? Does your chipset support at least 8GB of > >>address space? Can you remap memory addresses above the 4GB barier (in > >>the BIOS)? You realize that you will have to enter the BIOS and remap > >>the memory every time you switch from 32 to 64-bits. > >> > >>John > >> > >>steve wrote: > >> > >> > >>>I see :) > >>> > >>>One thing I was hoping to gain was access to the rest of my memory. It is > >>>equipped with 4 GB of ram, partly becuase of limited options of ram in-stock > >>>at the time I was purchasing other parts for the system. My gaming is mostly > >>>limited to Second Life at the moment, which gets along better with XP than > >>>Vista. I also use the system for some software development, and creating > >>>graphics. I thought that a dual-boot configuration would allow me to see > >>>just how many problems I would have with 64-bit, without giving up 32-bit > >>>operation. > >>> > >>>"Onsokumaru" wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>"VanguardLH" <V@nguard.LH> wrote in message > >>>>news:BoidnbeGcd_-0zvVnZ2dnUVZ_h-dnZ2d@comcast.com... > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>steve wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>What I want to do is take my Q6600 gaming machine, which I just built 6 > >>>>>>months ago, and which currently has Windows XP professional 32-bit on it, > >>>>>>and > >>>>>>make it a dual-boot by putting Windows XP 64bit on a clean HD, and going > >>>>>>from > >>>>>>there. I don't want to make it dual-boot wherewby 1 OS is Vista of any > >>>>>>flavor. > >>>>> > >>>>>Do you have any 64-bit games that demand a 64-bit version of Windows? > >>>>>If your "gaming machine" is not for playing games, for what applications > >>>>>do you need a 64-bit version of Windows? > >>>> > >>>>I have a similar setup, with same proc but dual booting 32 and 64 bit XP. > >>>> > >>>>There is no benefit. Driver support for XP 64 bit isn't great and not all 32 > >>>>bit programs work. > >>>> > >>>>Since it's a trial the OP may as well try the Vista 64 bit. > >>>> > >>>>I didn't notice one extra bit of gain from using a 64 bit OS to play games. > >>>>To take advantage you really need 64 bit programs. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >> >
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