CHKDSK won't finish, XP won't start

August 21, 2008

Re: CHKDSK won't finish, XP won't start

Please don't hijack this thread. It is quite rude. Start a new one. If you

insist on only John answering, then say so in the Subject. "For John John

MVP -- CHKDSK Question" I'm sure he'll find it, since he'll have read this

and your previous.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://grystmill.com

"ptmx2" <ptmx2@discussions.microsoft.com.> wrote in message

news:D6229BCC-2489-4FC7-AD1D-930BBE013EDA@microsoft.com...

> John,

> since the guys have gone over the hill, pehaps I can use your presence on

> this tread to ask you a question.

> I want my XPSP3 machine to run the first 3 phases of Chkdsk on every

> startup. I want chkdsk to chech 2 partitions each time, one being my XP

> root

> partition. What I also want to see is the exact same result from this

> proposed auto-run of Chkdsk to replicate what I see when, while in

> Windows, I

> go to Properties of each drive partition, select Tools\Error

> Checking\Automatically fix file system errors. On each partition, XP

> explains

> it can not be done while disk is in use but invites the user to check a

> box

> and the Chkdsk will be done on next startup. When next startup occurs,

> there

> is the BIOS checklist scrolled on screen, the Windows XP Start Screen with

> the blue progress bar and then the screen goes dark and up pops a light

> blue

> screen advising that a check disk is scheduled in 'x' seconds. It the user

> lets the time run out, the process starts, shows its progress on screen,

> gives you a result, and then restarts Windows from the beginning thru the

> Windows XP Start Screen with progress bar to the login box. Do you know

> this

> process? I am sure you will. Can I configure XP to do the above with the

> same

> visual results automatically? I tried using a scheduled task but that did

> not

> give me the results I was looking for.

>

> your help will be appreciated.

> thanks

> ptmx2

>

> "John John (MVP)" wrote:

>

>> Before you put it back in the machine you will still have to change the

>> registry's BootExecute value, if you don't when it boots it will want to

>> run chkdsk again.

>>

>> John

>>

>> MichaelG wrote:

>>

>> > Thanks Gerry,

>> > I actually ran it all weekend and when i came in Monday it was still

>> > stuck

>> > on the 66%. I have since taken the hard drive out and put it in another

>> > PC. I

>> > defraged it and am no running Check Disk. It is on phase 5 so i am

>> > hopeful

>> > that it will finish and i can put it back in the original PC.

>> > I will try the disk Cleanup on the profiles if i get this going.

>> >

>> > "Gerry" wrote:

>> >

>> >>Michael

>> >>

>> >>Run Disk CleanUp in all User Profiles before running chkdsk or Disk

>> >>Defragmenter. Alternatively run cCleaner.

>> >>

>> >>Stage 4 is checking for bad sectors. If one or more are found the

>> >>system

>> >>will try to map off the sectors as out of bounds. This can take a very

>> >>long time. I would set it up to run over night and go to bed early and

>> >>get up late. It is not unusual for users to report chkdsk taking more

>> >>than 24 hours.

>> >>

>> >>An explanation of CHKDSK and the new /C and /I switches

>> >>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/187941

>> >>

>> >>--

>> >>

>> >>Hope this helps.

>> >>

>> >>Gerry

>> >>~~~~

>> >>FCA

>> >>Stourport, England

>> >>Enquire, plan and execute

>> >>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>> >>

>> >>MichaelG wrote:

>> >>

>> >>>It passes all hardware diagnostics.

>> >>>

>> >>>"David B." wrote:

>> >>>

>> >>>>Before doing any more software work on the drive, determine the mfg

>> >>>>of your drive and download and run their diagnostic utility to make

>> >>>>sure your drive isn't going/hasn't gone bad.

>> >>>>

>> >>>>--

>> >>>>

>> >>>>----

>> >>>>Crosspost, do not multipost

>> >>>>http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm How to ask a question

>> >>>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

>> >>>>

>> >>>>"MichaelG" <MichaelG@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> >>>>news:FB7077AB-FEA6-41D0-96CE-9EA6328A4E6B@microsoft.com...

>> >>>>

>> >>>>>I scheduled a check disk from within XP, it freezes on the 4th part

>> >>>>>at 66%. I

>> >>>>>have tried a repair which runs but then on the reboot, it runs

>> >>>>>check disk again... and freezes at 66%. How can i cancel check disk

>> >>>>>before windows loads. From the command prompt chkntfs is not a

>> >>>>>valid program. I can not open

>> >>>>>in safe mode.

>> >>>>>

>> >>>>>Thanks in advance.

>> >>

>>

August 21, 2008

Re: CHKDSK won't finish, XP won't start

my apologies. I tried to start a new thread. I encountered a problem doing

so. I found the thread I posted to by searching; however I do not recall

where I began. My search result is a page of posts listed in what is

identifed as "Expert Zone Newsgroups". When I try to start a new tread, the

WXP newsgroup reader asks which discussion group I want to post in, and

"Expert Zone Newsgroup" is not listed. How do I post to this discussion group

as it appears it is not listed.

thank you.

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

> Please don't hijack this thread. It is quite rude. Start a new one. If you

> insist on only John answering, then say so in the Subject. "For John John

> MVP -- CHKDSK Question" I'm sure he'll find it, since he'll have read this

> and your previous.

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://grystmill.com

>

> "ptmx2" <ptmx2@discussions.microsoft.com.> wrote in message

> news:D6229BCC-2489-4FC7-AD1D-930BBE013EDA@microsoft.com...

> > John,

> > since the guys have gone over the hill, pehaps I can use your presence on

> > this tread to ask you a question.

> > I want my XPSP3 machine to run the first 3 phases of Chkdsk on every

> > startup. I want chkdsk to chech 2 partitions each time, one being my XP

> > root

> > partition. What I also want to see is the exact same result from this

> > proposed auto-run of Chkdsk to replicate what I see when, while in

> > Windows, I

> > go to Properties of each drive partition, select Tools\Error

> > Checking\Automatically fix file system errors. On each partition, XP

> > explains

> > it can not be done while disk is in use but invites the user to check a

> > box

> > and the Chkdsk will be done on next startup. When next startup occurs,

> > there

> > is the BIOS checklist scrolled on screen, the Windows XP Start Screen with

> > the blue progress bar and then the screen goes dark and up pops a light

> > blue

> > screen advising that a check disk is scheduled in 'x' seconds. It the user

> > lets the time run out, the process starts, shows its progress on screen,

> > gives you a result, and then restarts Windows from the beginning thru the

> > Windows XP Start Screen with progress bar to the login box. Do you know

> > this

> > process? I am sure you will. Can I configure XP to do the above with the

> > same

> > visual results automatically? I tried using a scheduled task but that did

> > not

> > give me the results I was looking for.

> >

> > your help will be appreciated.

> > thanks

> > ptmx2

> >

> > "John John (MVP)" wrote:

> >

> >> Before you put it back in the machine you will still have to change the

> >> registry's BootExecute value, if you don't when it boots it will want to

> >> run chkdsk again.

> >>

> >> John

> >>

> >> MichaelG wrote:

> >>

> >> > Thanks Gerry,

> >> > I actually ran it all weekend and when i came in Monday it was still

> >> > stuck

> >> > on the 66%. I have since taken the hard drive out and put it in another

> >> > PC. I

> >> > defraged it and am no running Check Disk. It is on phase 5 so i am

> >> > hopeful

> >> > that it will finish and i can put it back in the original PC.

> >> > I will try the disk Cleanup on the profiles if i get this going.

> >> >

> >> > "Gerry" wrote:

> >> >

> >> >>Michael

> >> >>

> >> >>Run Disk CleanUp in all User Profiles before running chkdsk or Disk

> >> >>Defragmenter. Alternatively run cCleaner.

> >> >>

> >> >>Stage 4 is checking for bad sectors. If one or more are found the

> >> >>system

> >> >>will try to map off the sectors as out of bounds. This can take a very

> >> >>long time. I would set it up to run over night and go to bed early and

> >> >>get up late. It is not unusual for users to report chkdsk taking more

> >> >>than 24 hours.

> >> >>

> >> >>An explanation of CHKDSK and the new /C and /I switches

> >> >>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/187941

> >> >>

> >> >>--

> >> >>

> >> >>Hope this helps.

> >> >>

> >> >>Gerry

> >> >>~~~~

> >> >>FCA

> >> >>Stourport, England

> >> >>Enquire, plan and execute

> >> >>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> >> >>

> >> >>MichaelG wrote:

> >> >>

> >> >>>It passes all hardware diagnostics.

> >> >>>

> >> >>>"David B." wrote:

> >> >>>

> >> >>>>Before doing any more software work on the drive, determine the mfg

> >> >>>>of your drive and download and run their diagnostic utility to make

> >> >>>>sure your drive isn't going/hasn't gone bad.

> >> >>>>

> >> >>>>--

> >> >>>>

> >> >>>>----

> >> >>>>Crosspost, do not multipost

> >> >>>>http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm How to ask a question

> >> >>>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

> >> >>>>

> >> >>>>"MichaelG" <MichaelG@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> >> >>>>news:FB7077AB-FEA6-41D0-96CE-9EA6328A4E6B@microsoft.com...

> >> >>>>

> >> >>>>>I scheduled a check disk from within XP, it freezes on the 4th part

> >> >>>>>at 66%. I

> >> >>>>>have tried a repair which runs but then on the reboot, it runs

> >> >>>>>check disk again... and freezes at 66%. How can i cancel check disk

> >> >>>>>before windows loads. From the command prompt chkntfs is not a

> >> >>>>>valid program. I can not open

> >> >>>>>in safe mode.

> >> >>>>>

> >> >>>>>Thanks in advance.

> >> >>

> >>

>

August 21, 2008

Re: CHKDSK won't finish, XP won't start

No problem, I'll answer your question later but I have to ask, why on

earth do you want to have chkdsk running at *every* startup? That is

really quite uneccessary, chkdsk shouldn't be run without valid reasons.

John

PS: To access the newsgroup with your news reader try clicking on this

link:

http://news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

ptmx2 wrote:

> my apologies. I tried to start a new thread. I encountered a problem doing

> so. I found the thread I posted to by searching; however I do not recall

> where I began. My search result is a page of posts listed in what is

> identifed as "Expert Zone Newsgroups". When I try to start a new tread, the

> WXP newsgroup reader asks which discussion group I want to post in, and

> "Expert Zone Newsgroup" is not listed. How do I post to this discussion group

> as it appears it is not listed.

> thank you.

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

>

>>Please don't hijack this thread. It is quite rude. Start a new one. If you

>>insist on only John answering, then say so in the Subject. "For John John

>>MVP -- CHKDSK Question" I'm sure he'll find it, since he'll have read this

>>and your previous.

>>

>>--

>>Gary S. Terhune

>>MS-MVP Shell/User

>>http://grystmill.com

>>

>>"ptmx2" <ptmx2@discussions.microsoft.com.> wrote in message

>>news:D6229BCC-2489-4FC7-AD1D-930BBE013EDA@microsoft.com...

>>

>>>John,

>>>since the guys have gone over the hill, pehaps I can use your presence on

>>>this tread to ask you a question.

>>>I want my XPSP3 machine to run the first 3 phases of Chkdsk on every

>>>startup. I want chkdsk to chech 2 partitions each time, one being my XP

>>>root

>>>partition. What I also want to see is the exact same result from this

>>>proposed auto-run of Chkdsk to replicate what I see when, while in

>>>Windows, I

>>>go to Properties of each drive partition, select Tools\Error

>>>Checking\Automatically fix file system errors. On each partition, XP

>>>explains

>>>it can not be done while disk is in use but invites the user to check a

>>>box

>>>and the Chkdsk will be done on next startup. When next startup occurs,

>>>there

>>>is the BIOS checklist scrolled on screen, the Windows XP Start Screen with

>>>the blue progress bar and then the screen goes dark and up pops a light

>>>blue

>>>screen advising that a check disk is scheduled in 'x' seconds. It the user

>>>lets the time run out, the process starts, shows its progress on screen,

>>>gives you a result, and then restarts Windows from the beginning thru the

>>>Windows XP Start Screen with progress bar to the login box. Do you know

>>>this

>>>process? I am sure you will. Can I configure XP to do the above with the

>>>same

>>>visual results automatically? I tried using a scheduled task but that did

>>>not

>>>give me the results I was looking for.

>>>

>>>your help will be appreciated.

>>>thanks

>>>ptmx2

>>>

>>>"John John (MVP)" wrote:

>>>

>>>>Before you put it back in the machine you will still have to change the

>>>>registry's BootExecute value, if you don't when it boots it will want to

>>>>run chkdsk again.

>>>>

>>>>John

>>>>

>>>>MichaelG wrote:

>>>>

>>>>>Thanks Gerry,

>>>>>I actually ran it all weekend and when i came in Monday it was still

>>>>>stuck

>>>>>on the 66%. I have since taken the hard drive out and put it in another

>>>>>PC. I

>>>>>defraged it and am no running Check Disk. It is on phase 5 so i am

>>>>>hopeful

>>>>>that it will finish and i can put it back in the original PC.

>>>>>I will try the disk Cleanup on the profiles if i get this going.

>>>>>

>>>>>"Gerry" wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>>Michael

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Run Disk CleanUp in all User Profiles before running chkdsk or Disk

>>>>>>Defragmenter. Alternatively run cCleaner.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Stage 4 is checking for bad sectors. If one or more are found the

>>>>>>system

>>>>>>will try to map off the sectors as out of bounds. This can take a very

>>>>>>long time. I would set it up to run over night and go to bed early and

>>>>>>get up late. It is not unusual for users to report chkdsk taking more

>>>>>>than 24 hours.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>An explanation of CHKDSK and the new /C and /I switches

>>>>>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/187941

>>>>>>

>>>>>>--

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Hope this helps.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Gerry

>>>>>>~~~~

>>>>>>FCA

>>>>>>Stourport, England

>>>>>>Enquire, plan and execute

>>>>>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>>>>>>

>>>>>>MichaelG wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>It passes all hardware diagnostics.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>"David B." wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>Before doing any more software work on the drive, determine the mfg

>>>>>>>>of your drive and download and run their diagnostic utility to make

>>>>>>>>sure your drive isn't going/hasn't gone bad.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>--

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>----

>>>>>>>>Crosspost, do not multipost

>>>>>>>>http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm How to ask a question

>>>>>>>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>"MichaelG" <MichaelG@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>news:FB7077AB-FEA6-41D0-96CE-9EA6328A4E6B@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>I scheduled a check disk from within XP, it freezes on the 4th part

>>>>>>>>>at 66%. I

>>>>>>>>>have tried a repair which runs but then on the reboot, it runs

>>>>>>>>>check disk again... and freezes at 66%. How can i cancel check disk

>>>>>>>>>before windows loads. From the command prompt chkntfs is not a

>>>>>>>>>valid program. I can not open

>>>>>>>>>in safe mode.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>Thanks in advance.

>>>>>>

>>>>

>>

August 21, 2008

Re: CHKDSK won't finish, XP won't start

thank you.

every now and then, i have odd little problems with XP. nothing major, just

annoyances. My current install is about 5-6 years old now and was installed

on a clean disk. but things happen over time. i found that by running chkdsk

with only the "automatically fix file system errors" selected that I never

experience a bad shutdown and very seldom get a hang up or any other problems

while using windows and my software applications.... As you know, my chkdsk

selection does not include the bad sector check and repair steps. In my

thinking, that step can have serious consequences and I would only use it if

a genuine problem was evident or possible with the hdisk or a partition...I

would probably begin to realize that through regular viewing of my Event

Viewer and the overall behavior of my computer. I listen to it all the time.

ps. I notice we are now discussing this topic in the Windows XP General

Discussion Group. Relative to how this message seems to be Group hopping is

confusing to me...

"John John (MVP)" wrote:

> No problem, I'll answer your question later but I have to ask, why on

> earth do you want to have chkdsk running at *every* startup? That is

> really quite uneccessary, chkdsk shouldn't be run without valid reasons.

>

> John

>

> PS: To access the newsgroup with your news reader try clicking on this

> link:

>

> http://news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

>

> ptmx2 wrote:

>

> > my apologies. I tried to start a new thread. I encountered a problem doing

> > so. I found the thread I posted to by searching; however I do not recall

> > where I began. My search result is a page of posts listed in what is

> > identifed as "Expert Zone Newsgroups". When I try to start a new tread, the

> > WXP newsgroup reader asks which discussion group I want to post in, and

> > "Expert Zone Newsgroup" is not listed. How do I post to this discussion group

> > as it appears it is not listed.

> > thank you.

> >

> > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

> >

> >>Please don't hijack this thread. It is quite rude. Start a new one. If you

> >>insist on only John answering, then say so in the Subject. "For John John

> >>MVP -- CHKDSK Question" I'm sure he'll find it, since he'll have read this

> >>and your previous.

> >>

> >>--

> >>Gary S. Terhune

> >>MS-MVP Shell/User

> >>http://grystmill.com

> >>

> >>"ptmx2" <ptmx2@discussions.microsoft.com.> wrote in message

> >>news:D6229BCC-2489-4FC7-AD1D-930BBE013EDA@microsoft.com...

> >>

> >>>John,

> >>>since the guys have gone over the hill, pehaps I can use your presence on

> >>>this tread to ask you a question.

> >>>I want my XPSP3 machine to run the first 3 phases of Chkdsk on every

> >>>startup. I want chkdsk to chech 2 partitions each time, one being my XP

> >>>root

> >>>partition. What I also want to see is the exact same result from this

> >>>proposed auto-run of Chkdsk to replicate what I see when, while in

> >>>Windows, I

> >>>go to Properties of each drive partition, select Tools\Error

> >>>Checking\Automatically fix file system errors. On each partition, XP

> >>>explains

> >>>it can not be done while disk is in use but invites the user to check a

> >>>box

> >>>and the Chkdsk will be done on next startup. When next startup occurs,

> >>>there

> >>>is the BIOS checklist scrolled on screen, the Windows XP Start Screen with

> >>>the blue progress bar and then the screen goes dark and up pops a light

> >>>blue

> >>>screen advising that a check disk is scheduled in 'x' seconds. It the user

> >>>lets the time run out, the process starts, shows its progress on screen,

> >>>gives you a result, and then restarts Windows from the beginning thru the

> >>>Windows XP Start Screen with progress bar to the login box. Do you know

> >>>this

> >>>process? I am sure you will. Can I configure XP to do the above with the

> >>>same

> >>>visual results automatically? I tried using a scheduled task but that did

> >>>not

> >>>give me the results I was looking for.

> >>>

> >>>your help will be appreciated.

> >>>thanks

> >>>ptmx2

> >>>

> >>>"John John (MVP)" wrote:

> >>>

> >>>>Before you put it back in the machine you will still have to change the

> >>>>registry's BootExecute value, if you don't when it boots it will want to

> >>>>run chkdsk again.

> >>>>

> >>>>John

> >>>>

> >>>>MichaelG wrote:

> >>>>

> >>>>>Thanks Gerry,

> >>>>>I actually ran it all weekend and when i came in Monday it was still

> >>>>>stuck

> >>>>>on the 66%. I have since taken the hard drive out and put it in another

> >>>>>PC. I

> >>>>>defraged it and am no running Check Disk. It is on phase 5 so i am

> >>>>>hopeful

> >>>>>that it will finish and i can put it back in the original PC.

> >>>>>I will try the disk Cleanup on the profiles if i get this going.

> >>>>>

> >>>>>"Gerry" wrote:

> >>>>>

> >>>>>>Michael

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>Run Disk CleanUp in all User Profiles before running chkdsk or Disk

> >>>>>>Defragmenter. Alternatively run cCleaner.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>Stage 4 is checking for bad sectors. If one or more are found the

> >>>>>>system

> >>>>>>will try to map off the sectors as out of bounds. This can take a very

> >>>>>>long time. I would set it up to run over night and go to bed early and

> >>>>>>get up late. It is not unusual for users to report chkdsk taking more

> >>>>>>than 24 hours.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>An explanation of CHKDSK and the new /C and /I switches

> >>>>>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/187941

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>--

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>Hope this helps.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>Gerry

> >>>>>>~~~~

> >>>>>>FCA

> >>>>>>Stourport, England

> >>>>>>Enquire, plan and execute

> >>>>>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>MichaelG wrote:

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>>It passes all hardware diagnostics.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>"David B." wrote:

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>Before doing any more software work on the drive, determine the mfg

> >>>>>>>>of your drive and download and run their diagnostic utility to make

> >>>>>>>>sure your drive isn't going/hasn't gone bad.

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>--

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>----

> >>>>>>>>Crosspost, do not multipost

> >>>>>>>>http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm How to ask a question

> >>>>>>>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>"MichaelG" <MichaelG@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> >>>>>>>>news:FB7077AB-FEA6-41D0-96CE-9EA6328A4E6B@microsoft.com...

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>I scheduled a check disk from within XP, it freezes on the 4th part

> >>>>>>>>>at 66%. I

> >>>>>>>>>have tried a repair which runs but then on the reboot, it runs

> >>>>>>>>>check disk again... and freezes at 66%. How can i cancel check disk

> >>>>>>>>>before windows loads. From the command prompt chkntfs is not a

> >>>>>>>>>valid program. I can not open

> >>>>>>>>>in safe mode.

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>Thanks in advance.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>

> >>

>

August 22, 2008

Re: CHKDSK won't finish, XP won't start

I hope you have reliable a backup of your precious files, if you are to

the point where your disk and file system have to be constantly fixed by

Chkdsk to run properly you may need it, maybe sooner than later!

Instead of stretching your luck with Chkdsk you should be doing tests on

your hard drive and making preparations for a disk replacement.

From the onset it should be noted that the startup disk check tool is

Autochk.exe, this native NT application is designed to check the disk

without the support of the Win32 subsystem, otherwise it does the same

thing as Chkdsk. There are two ways to have Chkdsk run when the

computer starts, Autochk will run if you schedule it to run or by

default it will run if the volume's dirty bit is set. If the operating

system detects problems it will automatically set the dirty bit and the

volume will be checked at the next startup. The dirty bit can also be

set manually but it is best not to do this and to leave the setting of

the dirty bit to the operating system. Once set the dirty bit cannot be

changed and while the boot time check can be skipped it cannot be

canceled, on the other hand, a scheduled Chkdsk without the dirty bit

can be canceled at any time.

To schedule a Chkdsk at the next reboot:

On the Windows volume, assumes the volume is C:

At the command prompt issue:

chkdsk c: /f

Chkdsk will return a message telling you that it cannot lock or dismount

the volume and ask you if you want to schedule a Chkdsk at the next

restart, answer Yes.

For dismountable data volumes, assumes the volume is D:

Open a file on the volume, or explore the volume with Explorer. Then at

the Command prompt issue:

chkdsk d: /f

Chkdsk will inform you that the volume is being used by another process

and it will ask you if you want to force a dismount on the volume,

answer No. Chkdsk will then ask you if you want to schedule a Chkdsk at

the next restart, answer Yes.

Now the drives are scheduled to run at the next restart. To do this in

a semi-automated manner, after doing the above:

Using Regedit export the

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager] key.

This exported file will be fairly large, edit the saved file and

remove/delete everything except the BootExecute value, the edited file

will look like this:

==========================================================

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager]

"BootExecute"=hex(7):61,00,75,00,74,00,6f,00,63,00,68,00,65,00,63,00,6b,00,20,

........ with a long series of numbers.

=====================================================

(Leave a blank line at the end of the file.) You only want to save the

BootExecute value, nothing else!

Save the edited .reg file and when you want to schedule the Chkdsk merge

it to the registry. You can use any of the common methods to

automatically merge the file when the computer boots, you can use a

Startup or Logon script, put the file, a .bat file or a shortcut in the

Startup folder. Use the silent switch to suppress the confirmation

request, a shortcut's typical target could be:

%windir%\regedit.exe /s "c:\Path to BootChk.reg"

To cancel all scheduled Chkdsk at the command prompt issue"

chkntfs /d

John

ptmx2 wrote:

> thank you.

> every now and then, i have odd little problems with XP. nothing major, just

> annoyances. My current install is about 5-6 years old now and was installed

> on a clean disk. but things happen over time. i found that by running chkdsk

> with only the "automatically fix file system errors" selected that I never

> experience a bad shutdown and very seldom get a hang up or any other problems

> while using windows and my software applications.... As you know, my chkdsk

> selection does not include the bad sector check and repair steps. In my

> thinking, that step can have serious consequences and I would only use it if

> a genuine problem was evident or possible with the hdisk or a partition...I

> would probably begin to realize that through regular viewing of my Event

> Viewer and the overall behavior of my computer. I listen to it all the time.

>

> ps. I notice we are now discussing this topic in the Windows XP General

> Discussion Group. Relative to how this message seems to be Group hopping is

> confusing to me...

>

> "John John (MVP)" wrote:

>

>>No problem, I'll answer your question later but I have to ask, why on

>>earth do you want to have chkdsk running at *every* startup? That is

>>really quite uneccessary, chkdsk shouldn't be run without valid reasons.

>>

>>John

>>

>>PS: To access the newsgroup with your news reader try clicking on this

>>link:

>>

>>http://news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

>>

>>ptmx2 wrote:

>>

>>>my apologies. I tried to start a new thread. I encountered a problem doing

>>>so. I found the thread I posted to by searching; however I do not recall

>>>where I began. My search result is a page of posts listed in what is

>>>identifed as "Expert Zone Newsgroups". When I try to start a new tread, the

>>>WXP newsgroup reader asks which discussion group I want to post in, and

>>>"Expert Zone Newsgroup" is not listed. How do I post to this discussion group

>>>as it appears it is not listed.

>>>thank you.

>>>

>>>"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

>>>

>>>>Please don't hijack this thread. It is quite rude. Start a new one. If you

>>>>insist on only John answering, then say so in the Subject. "For John John

>>>>MVP -- CHKDSK Question" I'm sure he'll find it, since he'll have read this

>>>>and your previous.

>>>>

>>>>--

>>>>Gary S. Terhune

>>>>MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>>http://grystmill.com

>>>>

>>>>"ptmx2" <ptmx2@discussions.microsoft.com.> wrote in message

>>>>news:D6229BCC-2489-4FC7-AD1D-930BBE013EDA@microsoft.com...

>>>>

>>>>>John,

>>>>>since the guys have gone over the hill, pehaps I can use your presence on

>>>>>this tread to ask you a question.

>>>>>I want my XPSP3 machine to run the first 3 phases of Chkdsk on every

>>>>>startup. I want chkdsk to chech 2 partitions each time, one being my XP

>>>>>root

>>>>>partition. What I also want to see is the exact same result from this

>>>>>proposed auto-run of Chkdsk to replicate what I see when, while in

>>>>>Windows, I

>>>>>go to Properties of each drive partition, select Tools\Error

>>>>>Checking\Automatically fix file system errors. On each partition, XP

>>>>>explains

>>>>>it can not be done while disk is in use but invites the user to check a

>>>>>box

>>>>>and the Chkdsk will be done on next startup. When next startup occurs,

>>>>>there

>>>>>is the BIOS checklist scrolled on screen, the Windows XP Start Screen with

>>>>>the blue progress bar and then the screen goes dark and up pops a light

>>>>>blue

>>>>>screen advising that a check disk is scheduled in 'x' seconds. It the user

>>>>>lets the time run out, the process starts, shows its progress on screen,

>>>>>gives you a result, and then restarts Windows from the beginning thru the

>>>>>Windows XP Start Screen with progress bar to the login box. Do you know

>>>>>this

>>>>>process? I am sure you will. Can I configure XP to do the above with the

>>>>>same

>>>>>visual results automatically? I tried using a scheduled task but that did

>>>>>not

>>>>>give me the results I was looking for.

>>>>>

>>>>>your help will be appreciated.

>>>>>thanks

>>>>>ptmx2

>>>>>

>>>>>"John John (MVP)" wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>>Before you put it back in the machine you will still have to change the

>>>>>>registry's BootExecute value, if you don't when it boots it will want to

>>>>>>run chkdsk again.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>John

>>>>>>

>>>>>>MichaelG wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Thanks Gerry,

>>>>>>>I actually ran it all weekend and when i came in Monday it was still

>>>>>>>stuck

>>>>>>>on the 66%. I have since taken the hard drive out and put it in another

>>>>>>>PC. I

>>>>>>>defraged it and am no running Check Disk. It is on phase 5 so i am

>>>>>>>hopeful

>>>>>>>that it will finish and i can put it back in the original PC.

>>>>>>>I will try the disk Cleanup on the profiles if i get this going.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>"Gerry" wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>Michael

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>Run Disk CleanUp in all User Profiles before running chkdsk or Disk

>>>>>>>>Defragmenter. Alternatively run cCleaner.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>Stage 4 is checking for bad sectors. If one or more are found the

>>>>>>>>system

>>>>>>>>will try to map off the sectors as out of bounds. This can take a very

>>>>>>>>long time. I would set it up to run over night and go to bed early and

>>>>>>>>get up late. It is not unusual for users to report chkdsk taking more

>>>>>>>>than 24 hours.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>An explanation of CHKDSK and the new /C and /I switches

>>>>>>>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/187941

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>--

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>Hope this helps.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>Gerry

>>>>>>>>~~~~

>>>>>>>>FCA

>>>>>>>>Stourport, England

>>>>>>>>Enquire, plan and execute

>>>>>>>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>MichaelG wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>It passes all hardware diagnostics.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>"David B." wrote:

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>Before doing any more software work on the drive, determine the mfg

>>>>>>>>>>of your drive and download and run their diagnostic utility to make

>>>>>>>>>>sure your drive isn't going/hasn't gone bad.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>--

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>----

>>>>>>>>>>Crosspost, do not multipost

>>>>>>>>>>http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm How to ask a question

>>>>>>>>>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>"MichaelG" <MichaelG@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>news:FB7077AB-FEA6-41D0-96CE-9EA6328A4E6B@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>I scheduled a check disk from within XP, it freezes on the 4th part

>>>>>>>>>>>at 66%. I

>>>>>>>>>>>have tried a repair which runs but then on the reboot, it runs

>>>>>>>>>>>check disk again... and freezes at 66%. How can i cancel check disk

>>>>>>>>>>>before windows loads. From the command prompt chkntfs is not a

>>>>>>>>>>>valid program. I can not open

>>>>>>>>>>>in safe mode.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks in advance.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>

>>

August 22, 2008

Re: CHKDSK won't finish, XP won't start

Monitor wrote:

>

> "Plato" <|@|.|> wrote in message

> news:48acb1f5$0$30937$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com...

> > =?Utf-8?B?TWljaGFlbEc=?= wrote:

> > >

> > > I scheduled a check disk from within XP, it freezes on the 4th part at

> 66%. I

> > > have tried a repair which runs but then on the reboot, it runs check

> disk

> > > again... and freezes at 66%. How can i cancel check disk before windows

> > > loads. From the command prompt chkntfs is not a valid program. I can not

> open

> > > in safe mode.

> >

> > Time for a new HDD.

> >

>

> That's shooting from the hip. Before the OP replaces his disk,

> he must run the diagnostic program that the manufacturer of the

> current disk has on his web site.

You're right. I stand corrected.

August 23, 2008

Re: CHKDSK won't finish, XP won't start

PTMX2's reply to John, inserted in the text of John's last message:

"John John (MVP)" wrote:

I hope you have reliable a backup of your precious files, if you are to

the point where your disk and file system have to be constantly fixed by

Chkdsk to run properly you may need it, maybe sooner than later!

Instead of stretching your luck with Chkdsk you should be doing tests on

your hard drive and making preparations for a disk replacement.

[ptmx2: First of all, allow me to say you are a craftsman, sir! Thank you...

You provided a way to give me exactly what I asked for in my original post. I

do understand your comment above. I explained the reason for my practice to

in my original post. I also understand why you might urge any reader to be

careful and mindful with a computer 'problem', as they are a sign of well, a

'problem'. Fortunately, I am not one to ignore such things however; many

folks are. Also, if one takes another's advice, he does so with full self

responsibility. I will say as a non-pro self taught computer user it appears

to me that most problems start out as operating and/or application system

errors and/or conflicts that are haphazardly and repeatedly ignored by the

user. That user is simply asking for trouble... Ignoring existing problems

Guarantees that they will only get worse !! - end]