Guest Daave Posted August 23, 2008 Posted August 23, 2008 Re: WinXP SP2 very, very slow?? Robert Macy wrote: > If I use the three step protocol when I boot up, the WinXP is quite > snappy and connects to the internet quite efficiently. > > Again, the three steps > 1) Right after the Desktop appears, kill the svchost.exe that hogs the > CPU > 2) Stop the SSDP Discovery > 3) RUN ipconfig /flushdns Try this: Start | Control Panel | Automatic updates Which option is selected?
Guest Robert Macy Posted August 23, 2008 Posted August 23, 2008 Re: WinXP SP2 very, very slow?? On Aug 23, 1:35 am, JF <JF@-> wrote: > *Bonjour Robert Macy * ! > <news:2b1f7c23-55e8-413c-ab4b-f210a0af405b@i24g2000prf.googlegroups.com> > > > May behttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/932494http://blogs.technet.com/askperf/archive/2008/01/11/getting-started-w... > > -- > Regards, Jean-François- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Jean-Francois, Bonjour, and merci beaucoup for these two URLs I believe the problem does relate to some kind of automatic update trying to ?? Luckily, svchost is NOT crashing, but apparently hogging the CPU time and making it appear the computer is stopped. An observation: Microsoft help websites CANNOT be saved in .mht format in order to read them and print them offline, where as most of the third party websites can be saved that way. So at all of these Microsoft websites I have to save the information .txt format and spend time fiddling it back into readable shape. These two website combined with that very useful program 'System Information' may help. This program says I'm missing two programs for my IE6 iecont.dll iecontlc.dll ...I wonder if they are necessary Regards, Robert
Guest PA Bear [MS MVP] Posted August 23, 2008 Posted August 23, 2008 Re: WinXP SP2 very, very slow?? Robert Macy wrote: > On Aug 22, 10:10 am, "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABear...@gmail.com> wrote: >> One mo' time... >> >> See this 08 Aug-08 reply of mine to your original thread in IE >> General: >> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general/msg/4af1afd43a68c75f > > Ok, I spent a whole day, going through that list, downloading > programs, running and scanning, etc. Looking for malware [not finding > any] > > And I'm still having to... > > If I use the three step protocol when I boot up, the WinXP is quite > snappy and connects to the internet quite efficiently. > > Again, the three steps > 1) Right after the Desktop appears, kill the svchost.exe that hogs the > CPU > 2) Stop the SSDP Discovery > 3) RUN ipconfig /flushdns > > If the machine did that automatically, I'd be done. Please cite a link to the forum thread where you've posted your HijackThis log for review by an expert, Robert. If you've not done so, you're not finished yet (despite what your scanning may have said). [if you'd followed my recommendations from the git-go, you'd probably be running troublefree 2 weeks ago. I am not going to spend another 3 weeks on this. Good luck.]
Guest Robert Macy Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 Re: WinXP SP2 very, very slow?? On Aug 23, 3:48 pm, "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABear...@gmail.com> wrote: > Robert Macy wrote: > > On Aug 22, 10:10 am, "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABear...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> One mo' time... > > >> See this 08 Aug-08 reply of mine to your original thread in IE > >> General: > >>http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.internetexplorer.gene.... > > > Ok, I spent a whole day, going through that list, downloading > > programs, running and scanning, etc. Looking for malware [not finding > > any] > > > And I'm still having to... > > > If I use the three step protocol when I boot up, the WinXP is quite > > snappy and connects to the internet quite efficiently. > > > Again, the three steps > > 1) Right after the Desktop appears, kill the svchost.exe that hogs the > > CPU > > 2) Stop the SSDP Discovery > > 3) RUN ipconfig /flushdns > > > If the machine did that automatically, I'd be done. > > Please cite a link to the forum thread where you've posted your HijackThis > log for review by an expert, Robert. If you've not done so, you're not > finished yet (despite what your scanning may have said). > > [if you'd followed my recommendations from the git-go, you'd probably be > running troublefree 2 weeks ago. I am not going to spend another 3 weeks on > this. Good luck.]- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Don't forget the main symptom was an inability to connect to the web. Made it VERY difficult to download AdAware, HiJackThis.exe and then to upload anything anywhere. The back log on reviewing hijack logs appears to be more than two weeks. Do not misinterpret, I am not chiding excellent volunteers for their ability, rather stating a fact. Right now I'm on the Win98 IE6, so have no access to the information on the WinXP machine. Robert
Guest PA Bear [MS MVP] Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 Re: WinXP SP2 very, very slow?? Robert Macy wrote: >>>> One mo' time... >> >>>> See this 08 Aug-08 reply of mine to your original thread in IE >>>> General: >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.internetexplorer.gene... >> >>> Ok, I spent a whole day, going through that list, downloading >>> programs, running and scanning, etc. Looking for malware [not finding >>> any] >> >>> And I'm still having to... >> >>> If I use the three step protocol when I boot up, the WinXP is quite >>> snappy and connects to the internet quite efficiently. >> >>> Again, the three steps >>> 1) Right after the Desktop appears, kill the svchost.exe that hogs the >>> CPU >>> 2) Stop the SSDP Discovery >>> 3) RUN ipconfig /flushdns >> >>> If the machine did that automatically, I'd be done. >> >> Please cite a link to the forum thread where you've posted your >> HijackThis >> log for review by an expert, Robert. If you've not done so, you're not >> finished yet (despite what your scanning may have said). >> >> [if you'd followed my recommendations from the git-go, you'd probably be >> running troublefree 2 weeks ago. I am not going to spend another 3 weeks >> on >> this. Good luck.] > > Don't forget the main symptom was an inability to connect to the web. > Made it VERY difficult to download AdAware, HiJackThis.exe and then to > upload anything anywhere. You could have used your Win98 machine to do all of this. > The back log on reviewing hijack logs appears to be more than two > weeks... Not in all of the forums I cited.
Guest Robert Macy Posted August 25, 2008 Posted August 25, 2008 Re: WinXP SP2 very, very slow?? On Aug 24, 11:25 am, "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABear...@gmail.com> wrote: > Robert Macy wrote: > >>>> One mo' time... > > >>>> See this 08 Aug-08 reply of mine to your original thread in IE > >>>> General: > >>>>http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.internetexplorer.gene.... > > >>> Ok, I spent a whole day, going through that list, downloading > >>> programs, running and scanning, etc. Looking for malware [not finding > >>> any] > > >>> And I'm still having to... > > >>> If I use the three step protocol when I boot up, the WinXP is quite > >>> snappy and connects to the internet quite efficiently. > > >>> Again, the three steps > >>> 1) Right after the Desktop appears, kill the svchost.exe that hogs the > >>> CPU > >>> 2) Stop the SSDP Discovery > >>> 3) RUN ipconfig /flushdns > > >>> If the machine did that automatically, I'd be done. > > >> Please cite a link to the forum thread where you've posted your > >> HijackThis > >> log for review by an expert, Robert. If you've not done so, you're not > >> finished yet (despite what your scanning may have said). > > >> [if you'd followed my recommendations from the git-go, you'd probably be > >> running troublefree 2 weeks ago. I am not going to spend another 3 weeks > >> on > >> this. Good luck.] > > > Don't forget the main symptom was an inability to connect to the web. > > Made it VERY difficult to download AdAware, HiJackThis.exe and then to > > upload anything anywhere. > > You could have used your Win98 machine to do all of this. > > > The back log on reviewing hijack logs appears to be more than two > > weeks... > > Not in all of the forums I cited.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Been a long delay, after installing the AdAware, and scanning etc rebooting once, machine worked ok, but after sitting dormant for a day, then would not boot up. took three tries before could get thing up and running, so now don't know what value the 'old' log is and have to do it all over again - when can get the machine on again. but as soon as up again need to run two forms, one that works [my three step protocol] and can post directly, and the other which doesn't work and may or may not have the machine up to a running state at all.
Guest Robert Macy Posted August 27, 2008 Posted August 27, 2008 Re: WinXP SP2 very, very slow?? On Aug 25, 7:11 am, Robert Macy <m...@california.com> wrote: > On Aug 24, 11:25 am, "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABear...@gmail.com> wrote: > ...snip... > > Been a long delay, after installing the AdAware, and scanning etc > rebooting once, machine worked ok, but after sitting dormant for a > day, then would not boot up. took three tries before could get thing > up and running, so now don't know what value the 'old' log is and have > to do it all over again - when can get the machine on again. > > but as soon as up again need to run two forms, one that works [my > three step protocol] and can post directly, and the other which > doesn't work and may or may not have the machine up to a running state > at all.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Sorry to reply to my own posting, but... Again, this machine is now not booting up at all !!! What ever that Ad-Aware did has caused [or is coincidental] with this machine to now not boot up. Just goes to a black screen and a single white cursor like bar at the top and then stops. Took me three tries again to get this thing going in order to create the two logs. Same problem still exists. However, the svchost.exe that hogs the cpu time when I dial up to connect hogs the cpu so much that I can't run System Information program to find out what program owns it. I could only find out from task manager that it was svchost.exe from the NETWORK, makes sense Probably that pesky auto update feature in there somewhere. Will now try to post the .log for the 'slow' version Robert
Guest PA Bear [MS MVP] Posted August 28, 2008 Posted August 28, 2008 Re: WinXP SP2 very, very slow?? PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: > Robert Macy wrote: >> On Aug 22, 10:10 am, "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABear...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> One mo' time... >>> >>> See this 08 Aug-08 reply of mine to your original thread in IE >>> General: >>> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general/msg/4af1afd43a68c75f >> >> Ok, I spent a whole day, going through that list, downloading >> programs, running and scanning, etc. Looking for malware [not finding >> any] >> >> And I'm still having to... >> >> If I use the three step protocol when I boot up, the WinXP is quite >> snappy and connects to the internet quite efficiently. >> >> Again, the three steps >> 1) Right after the Desktop appears, kill the svchost.exe that hogs the >> CPU >> 2) Stop the SSDP Discovery >> 3) RUN ipconfig /flushdns >> >> If the machine did that automatically, I'd be done. > > Please cite a link to the forum thread where you've posted your HijackThis > log for review by an expert, Robert. If you've not done so, you're not > finished yet (despite what your scanning may have said). > > [if you'd followed my recommendations from the git-go, you'd probably be > running troublefree 2 weeks ago. I am not going to spend another 3 weeks > on > this. Good luck.] Nearly a month later and Robert has posted his HJT log in an appropriate forum: http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=35763 (where we see that he still doesn't have an anti-virus application installed). -- ~PA Bear
Guest Bob I Posted August 29, 2008 Posted August 29, 2008 Re: WinXP SP2 very, very slow?? PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: > PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: > >> Robert Macy wrote: >> >>> On Aug 22, 10:10 am, "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABear...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> One mo' time... >>>> >>>> See this 08 Aug-08 reply of mine to your original thread in IE >>>> General: >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general/msg/4af1afd43a68c75f >>>> >>> >>> >>> Ok, I spent a whole day, going through that list, downloading >>> programs, running and scanning, etc. Looking for malware [not finding >>> any] >>> >>> And I'm still having to... >>> >>> If I use the three step protocol when I boot up, the WinXP is quite >>> snappy and connects to the internet quite efficiently. >>> >>> Again, the three steps >>> 1) Right after the Desktop appears, kill the svchost.exe that hogs the >>> CPU >>> 2) Stop the SSDP Discovery >>> 3) RUN ipconfig /flushdns >>> >>> If the machine did that automatically, I'd be done. >> >> >> Please cite a link to the forum thread where you've posted your >> HijackThis >> log for review by an expert, Robert. If you've not done so, you're not >> finished yet (despite what your scanning may have said). >> >> [if you'd followed my recommendations from the git-go, you'd probably be >> running troublefree 2 weeks ago. I am not going to spend another 3 >> weeks on >> this. Good luck.] > > > Nearly a month later and Robert has posted his HJT log in an appropriate > forum: http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=35763 (where we see that he > still doesn't have an anti-virus application installed). As they say, "You can lead a horse to water............"
Guest Robert Macy Posted August 30, 2008 Posted August 30, 2008 Re: WinXP SP2 very, very slow?? On Aug 29, 5:46 am, Bob I <bire...@yahoo.com> wrote: > PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: > > Nearly a month later and Robert has posted his HJT log in an appropriate > > forum:http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=35763(where we see that he > > still doesn't have an anti-virus application installed). Yes, the month was spent fighting unreliable boot ups and the fact that I can't dedicate my life to this. > As they say, "You can lead a horse to water............"- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Did you see a virus in the log? So far the steps I've done pursuing fixing the problem has resulted in extremely unreliable boot up. Didn't have that problem before. I should have stopped at doing my 3 step protocol and gone on with my life. Nuisance, but started everytime.
Guest Bob I Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 Re: WinXP SP2 very, very slow?? Robert Macy wrote: > On Aug 29, 5:46 am, Bob I <bire...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >>PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: >> >>>Nearly a month later and Robert has posted his HJT log in an appropriate >>>forum:http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=35763(where we see that he >>>still doesn't have an anti-virus application installed). > > > Yes, the month was spent fighting unreliable boot ups and the fact > that I can't dedicate my life to this. > > >>As they say, "You can lead a horse to water............"- Hide quoted text - >> >>- Show quoted text - > > > Did you see a virus in the log? > > > So far the steps I've done pursuing fixing the problem has resulted in > extremely unreliable boot up. Didn't have that problem before. I > should have stopped at doing my 3 step protocol and gone on with my > life. Nuisance, but started everytime. > > I suspect the issue is somehow related to the "special software" having something changed by the Adaware which is causing the "pause" while it waits for a reply that is blocked, and when you disable things it is just skipping that check.
Guest Robert Macy Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 Re: WinXP SP2 very, very slow?? On Sep 2, 6:37 am, Bob I <bire...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Robert Macy wrote: > > On Aug 29, 5:46 am, Bob I <bire...@yahoo.com> wrote: > ...snip.. > > > Did you see a virus in the log? > > > So far the steps I've done pursuing fixing the problem has resulted in > > extremely unreliable boot up. Didn't have that problem before. I > > should have stopped at doing my 3 step protocol and gone on with my > > life. Nuisance, but started everytime. > > I suspect the issue is somehow related to the "special software" having > something changed by the Adaware which is causing the "pause" while it > waits for a reply that is blocked, and when you disable things it is > just skipping that check.- > Thank you for your reply. The HijackThis log is posted at aumha site. Any idea which 'special software'? I'm willing to uninstall AdAware [again!] if that will help. I don't mind quitting and just doing the three step protocol at this point. But, there's something nagging about not having everything under control. <g> Four with protocol and five without, are there too many svchost.exe running? Robert
Guest Bob I Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 Re: WinXP SP2 very, very slow?? Robert Macy wrote: > On Sep 2, 6:37 am, Bob I <bire...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >>Robert Macy wrote: >> >>>On Aug 29, 5:46 am, Bob I <bire...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> > ..snip.. > >>>Did you see a virus in the log? >> >>>So far the steps I've done pursuing fixing the problem has resulted in >>>extremely unreliable boot up. Didn't have that problem before. I >>>should have stopped at doing my 3 step protocol and gone on with my >>>life. Nuisance, but started everytime. >> >>I suspect the issue is somehow related to the "special software" having >>something changed by the Adaware which is causing the "pause" while it >>waits for a reply that is blocked, and when you disable things it is >>just skipping that check.- >> > > > Thank you for your reply. > The HijackThis log is posted at aumha site. > Any idea which 'special software'? > I'm willing to uninstall AdAware [again!] if that will help. > > I don't mind quitting and just doing the three step protocol at this > point. But, there's something nagging about not having everything > under control. <g> > > Four with protocol and five without, are there too many svchost.exe > running? > > Robert The National Institute program appears to have some external hooks and updating features, just guessing from the filenames I saw. You may want to try reinstalling it, with out the Adaware.
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