Guest John John (MVP) Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 Re: Regcure Opinion required Dave Head wrote: > On Aug 24, 3:09 am, "Daave" <dcwashNOS...@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote: > >>"Dave Head" <rally...@att.net> wrote in message >> >>news:c84ec7ba-ec6d-4f80-959b-04df4ad747d0@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com... >>On Aug 23, 3:00 pm, "Daave" <dcwashNOS...@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>"Dave Head" <rally...@att.net> wrote in message >> >>>>news:ac370c37-65c7-4dfc-b1b7-8ccc59364936@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... >>>>On Aug 23, 9:48 am, "Daave" <dcwashNOS...@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> >>>>wrote: >> >>>>>>I'll bet your performance improved because of the deletion of temp >>>>>>files followed by the defrag. >>>>> >>>>>Uhhh,,, if the problem had been cured by that, then why would I >>>>>have >>>>>continued to try to solve it by buying Regcure? >> >>>>Because you apparently believe in Regcure's placebo effect. Hey, it's >>>>your money. >>> >>>Hey, believe whatever you want, since you've apparently made a >>>religion out of this. I'm just telling you my experience. >> >>If you are not interesting in learning, I won't waste any more of my >>time. Godspeed.- Hide quoted text - >> > > > Not much interested in learning something from someone that, when > given facts that happen to disagree with his own beliefs, thinks he > can change the facts, and irrationally clings to his beliefs... The facts just don't support your argument. While it is possible, a one in 14 million chance, that an obscure registry entry might have slowed down your computer and that a registry cleaner would have found and removed the entry, this is more of a fluke than anything else! More often than not these registry cleaners do more harm than good and the one in 14 million time that they might slightly help does not change the overall bad track record that those mostly useless applications have! Also, that you call this application a "great" one and that you would recommend what is nothing but a scam (expires after one year, advertise one price then charge a higher one...) to other users leaves a great deal to be questioned about your recommendations! John
Guest Dave Head Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 Re: Regcure Opinion required On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 10:57:48 -0300, "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote: >Dave Head wrote: > >> On Aug 24, 3:09 am, "Daave" <dcwashNOS...@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote: >> >>>"Dave Head" <rally...@att.net> wrote in message >>> >>>news:c84ec7ba-ec6d-4f80-959b-04df4ad747d0@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com... >>>On Aug 23, 3:00 pm, "Daave" <dcwashNOS...@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>"Dave Head" <rally...@att.net> wrote in message >>> >>>>>news:ac370c37-65c7-4dfc-b1b7-8ccc59364936@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... >>>>>On Aug 23, 9:48 am, "Daave" <dcwashNOS...@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> >>>>>wrote: >>> >>>>>>>I'll bet your performance improved because of the deletion of temp >>>>>>>files followed by the defrag. >>>>>> >>>>>>Uhhh,,, if the problem had been cured by that, then why would I >>>>>>have >>>>>>continued to try to solve it by buying Regcure? >>> >>>>>Because you apparently believe in Regcure's placebo effect. Hey, it's >>>>>your money. >>>> >>>>Hey, believe whatever you want, since you've apparently made a >>>>religion out of this. I'm just telling you my experience. >>> >>>If you are not interesting in learning, I won't waste any more of my >>>time. Godspeed.- Hide quoted text - >>> >> >> >> Not much interested in learning something from someone that, when >> given facts that happen to disagree with his own beliefs, thinks he >> can change the facts, and irrationally clings to his beliefs... > >The facts just don't support your argument. While it is possible, a one >in 14 million chance, that an obscure registry entry might have slowed >down your computer and that a registry cleaner would have found and >removed the entry, this is more of a fluke than anything else! More >often than not these registry cleaners do more harm than good and the >one in 14 million time that they might slightly help does not change the >overall bad track record that those mostly useless applications have! >Also, that you call this application a "great" one and that you would >recommend what is nothing but a scam (expires after one year, advertise >one price then charge a higher one...) to other users leaves a great >deal to be questioned about your recommendations! > >John I'm not saying that registry cleaners in general are a great thing. All I'm saying is that I tried all the standard stuff, like deleting temp files, doing virus scans, adware scans, etc. and my computer was still painfully slow. Then I used this Regcure thing and the computer took off like a rocket. That's all. BTW, deleting cookies and temporary internet files has NEVER, EVER helped make my computer faster. Ever. All that ever happens is that multiple sites that used to know some useful things about my activities with them "forget" them, and I have to either remember them or look them up again.
Guest Dave Head Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 Re: Regcure Opinion required On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 10:57:48 -0300, "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote: >Dave Head wrote: > >> On Aug 24, 3:09 am, "Daave" <dcwashNOS...@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote: >> >>>"Dave Head" <rally...@att.net> wrote in message >>> >>>news:c84ec7ba-ec6d-4f80-959b-04df4ad747d0@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com... >>>On Aug 23, 3:00 pm, "Daave" <dcwashNOS...@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>"Dave Head" <rally...@att.net> wrote in message >>> >>>>>news:ac370c37-65c7-4dfc-b1b7-8ccc59364936@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... >>>>>On Aug 23, 9:48 am, "Daave" <dcwashNOS...@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> >>>>>wrote: >>> >>>>>>>I'll bet your performance improved because of the deletion of temp >>>>>>>files followed by the defrag. >>>>>> >>>>>>Uhhh,,, if the problem had been cured by that, then why would I >>>>>>have >>>>>>continued to try to solve it by buying Regcure? >>> >>>>>Because you apparently believe in Regcure's placebo effect. Hey, it's >>>>>your money. >>>> >>>>Hey, believe whatever you want, since you've apparently made a >>>>religion out of this. I'm just telling you my experience. >>> >>>If you are not interesting in learning, I won't waste any more of my >>>time. Godspeed.- Hide quoted text - >>> >> >> >> Not much interested in learning something from someone that, when >> given facts that happen to disagree with his own beliefs, thinks he >> can change the facts, and irrationally clings to his beliefs... > >The facts just don't support your argument. While it is possible, a one >in 14 million chance, that an obscure registry entry might have slowed >down your computer and that a registry cleaner would have found and >removed the entry, this is more of a fluke than anything else! More >often than not these registry cleaners do more harm than good and the >one in 14 million time that they might slightly help does not change the >overall bad track record that those mostly useless applications have! >Also, that you call this application a "great" one and that you would >recommend what is nothing but a scam (expires after one year, advertise >one price then charge a higher one...) to other users leaves a great >deal to be questioned about your recommendations! > >John Oh, btw, virus scanners have NEVER found a virus in my computer EXCEPT for one that a buddy brought over on a CD of ham radio utilities. That he downloaded. I don't download squat for "free" 'cuz it eventually doesn't turn out to be "free" - it has crap like that in it - with the exception being when the stuff is recommended by commercial sites such as ZDNet or commonly known to be good stuff from word of mouth by users that have tried it already. IOW, I don't go google and start downloading executables. I mostly _buy_ the utilities I want. THose don't have viruses. Mostly... Even with virus scanners and adware detectors, my computer died last September from some piece of the OS that it couldn't find any more. I gave the thing to Geek Squad and it took them the entire month of September to finally figure out that they couldn't save the whole environment, give up and reinstall Win XP, and replaced one CD drive that _may_ have been a problem. And that's with Norton and Ad-Aware working. Fortunately, I just reinstalled everything from the original install disks, and restored everything I needed from the backups. I had 100% backup. Backups are _waaaay_ more effective than virus scanners at protecting data. My backup software, Stomp BackupMyPC (alias Veritas), doesn't like to create 150 gigabyte backups, so I have to divide it into "Disk C:", "Disk D: without photos", and "Disk D: photos". Just did Disk C: this morning after the gold medal basketball game - get the thing going, and it'll backup 56 Gb in a couple hours. Wake up and its done. Now for disk D and its photos and other stuff... ESata makes this go really much faster than USB 2.0.
Guest John John (MVP) Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 Re: Regcure Opinion required Dave Head wrote: > On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 10:57:48 -0300, "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> > wrote: > > >>Dave Head wrote: >> >> >>>On Aug 24, 3:09 am, "Daave" <dcwashNOS...@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote: >>> >>> >>>>"Dave Head" <rally...@att.net> wrote in message >>>> >>>>news:c84ec7ba-ec6d-4f80-959b-04df4ad747d0@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com... >>>>On Aug 23, 3:00 pm, "Daave" <dcwashNOS...@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>"Dave Head" <rally...@att.net> wrote in message >>>> >>>>>>news:ac370c37-65c7-4dfc-b1b7-8ccc59364936@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>On Aug 23, 9:48 am, "Daave" <dcwashNOS...@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> >>>>>>wrote: >>>> >>>>>>>>I'll bet your performance improved because of the deletion of temp >>>>>>>>files followed by the defrag. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Uhhh,,, if the problem had been cured by that, then why would I >>>>>>>have >>>>>>>continued to try to solve it by buying Regcure? >>>> >>>>>>Because you apparently believe in Regcure's placebo effect. Hey, it's >>>>>>your money. >>>>> >>>>>Hey, believe whatever you want, since you've apparently made a >>>>>religion out of this. I'm just telling you my experience. >>>> >>>>If you are not interesting in learning, I won't waste any more of my >>>>time. Godspeed.- Hide quoted text - >>>> >>> >>> >>>Not much interested in learning something from someone that, when >>>given facts that happen to disagree with his own beliefs, thinks he >>>can change the facts, and irrationally clings to his beliefs... >> >>The facts just don't support your argument. While it is possible, a one >>in 14 million chance, that an obscure registry entry might have slowed >>down your computer and that a registry cleaner would have found and >>removed the entry, this is more of a fluke than anything else! More >>often than not these registry cleaners do more harm than good and the >>one in 14 million time that they might slightly help does not change the >>overall bad track record that those mostly useless applications have! >>Also, that you call this application a "great" one and that you would >>recommend what is nothing but a scam (expires after one year, advertise >>one price then charge a higher one...) to other users leaves a great >>deal to be questioned about your recommendations! >> >>John > > > Oh, btw, virus scanners have NEVER found a virus in my computer EXCEPT... > > [snip] ??? What does this have to do with Registry Cleaners? This is quite a veering off course... > > Even with virus scanners and adware detectors, my computer died last September > from some piece of the OS that it couldn't find any more. I gave the thing to > Geek Squad and it took them the entire month of September to finally figure out > that they couldn't save the whole environment, give up and reinstall Win XP Pretty well figures... it took those dingbats a whole month to figure things out and reinstall Windows! If you have to rely on these guys to fix your computer you are indeed desperate, they are about the last ones I would ever recommend anyone ask or trust with their computer repair. Maybe the reason the computer failed was because you ran registry cleaners on it and then quite understandably it wouldn't be a surprise if the "squad" couldn't fix it, I will have to give them the benefit of doubt on that one. John
Guest Dave Head Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 Re: Regcure Opinion required On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 13:06:37 -0300, "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote: > >Dave Head wrote: > >> On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 10:57:48 -0300, "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> >> wrote: >> >> >>>Dave Head wrote: >>> >>> >>>>On Aug 24, 3:09 am, "Daave" <dcwashNOS...@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>"Dave Head" <rally...@att.net> wrote in message >>>>> >>>>>news:c84ec7ba-ec6d-4f80-959b-04df4ad747d0@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com... >>>>>On Aug 23, 3:00 pm, "Daave" <dcwashNOS...@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>"Dave Head" <rally...@att.net> wrote in message >>>>> >>>>>>>news:ac370c37-65c7-4dfc-b1b7-8ccc59364936@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>>On Aug 23, 9:48 am, "Daave" <dcwashNOS...@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> >>>>>>>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>>>>I'll bet your performance improved because of the deletion of temp >>>>>>>>>files followed by the defrag. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Uhhh,,, if the problem had been cured by that, then why would I >>>>>>>>have >>>>>>>>continued to try to solve it by buying Regcure? >>>>> >>>>>>>Because you apparently believe in Regcure's placebo effect. Hey, it's >>>>>>>your money. >>>>>> >>>>>>Hey, believe whatever you want, since you've apparently made a >>>>>>religion out of this. I'm just telling you my experience. >>>>> >>>>>If you are not interesting in learning, I won't waste any more of my >>>>>time. Godspeed.- Hide quoted text - >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Not much interested in learning something from someone that, when >>>>given facts that happen to disagree with his own beliefs, thinks he >>>>can change the facts, and irrationally clings to his beliefs... >>> >>>The facts just don't support your argument. While it is possible, a one >>>in 14 million chance, that an obscure registry entry might have slowed >>>down your computer and that a registry cleaner would have found and >>>removed the entry, this is more of a fluke than anything else! More >>>often than not these registry cleaners do more harm than good and the >>>one in 14 million time that they might slightly help does not change the >>>overall bad track record that those mostly useless applications have! >>>Also, that you call this application a "great" one and that you would >>>recommend what is nothing but a scam (expires after one year, advertise >>>one price then charge a higher one...) to other users leaves a great >>>deal to be questioned about your recommendations! >>> >>>John >> >> >> Oh, btw, virus scanners have NEVER found a virus in my computer EXCEPT... >> >> [snip] > >??? What does this have to do with Registry Cleaners? This is quite a >veering off course... The link posted by Daave a couple exchanges ago: http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/slowcom.htm goes thru the whole standard stuff about anti-adware, anti-virus, erasing temp files and cookies, etc. etc. That's what I was responding to. >> Even with virus scanners and adware detectors, my computer died last September >> from some piece of the OS that it couldn't find any more. I gave the thing to >> Geek Squad and it took them the entire month of September to finally figure out >> that they couldn't save the whole environment, give up and reinstall Win XP > >Pretty well figures... it took those dingbats a whole month to figure >things out and reinstall Windows! I was imploring them NOT to destroy all the setups I had on the computer. I knew it would take weeks to get them all back. Actually, I still don't have everything reinstalled, but of course those are things I rarely used. >If you have to rely on these guys to >fix your computer you are indeed desperate, they are about the last ones >I would ever recommend anyone ask or trust with their computer repair. Its them or the privateers around here. IOW, they're the only ones I know of with a large corp behind them that (more than likely) sponsors update training, etc. Better the devil you know than the devil you don't. And, anyway, they seemed pretty good to me - at least as knowledgable as the guys at work, etc. I've been thoroughly unimpress with MANY supposed sources of this knowledge, since there generally seems to be no one that knows what to do about the "access denied" problems I get in my NTFS-formatted laptop. I finally had to google and figure that out myself. I _REALLY_ hate file permission nonsense in a home computer - gimmie Win 95, that just does what I tell it to, when I tell it to (unless its crashed, of course, but at least it doesn't have built-in things that keep me from doing what I want to do...) >Maybe the reason the computer failed was because you ran registry >cleaners on it Nope - this computer has never seen a registry cleaner until last week. I have to be on the edge of considering a complete reinstall before I'd consider something like that, since I half-expect it to completely hose the system anyway. Use only after a full backup... >and then quite understandably it wouldn't be a surprise >if the "squad" couldn't fix it, I will have to give them the benefit of >doubt on that one. Naw, the damn thing just died from general rot after working pretty good, although slowly at times, for about 4 years without much of any attention. 2003 -> 2007 ain't too bad - my buddy out in California reinstalls his Windows on a regular basis - he claims that it just corrodes naturally with use. I'm beginning to believe him. >John
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