Guest ColTom2 Posted August 20, 2008 Posted August 20, 2008 Hi: I have a friend who has a Sony desktop running Windows Home XP SP2. He has 20GB of HD space on C:\ and 60GB on D:\ and his problem is C:\ is almost full and D:\ has practically nothing. I purchased Norton Partition Magic 8.05 in an effort to merge the D:\ drive with the C:\ drive, as this was the most recommended software. Has anyone used this to merge partitions successfully? What concerns me is that I read a posting about the prior version 8.01 with someone trying to merge partitions and they lost everything in the process. Any comments and/or suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks
Guest Nepatsfan Posted August 20, 2008 Posted August 20, 2008 Re: Merging Partitons "ColTom2" <noemailaddress@nomail.com> wrote in message news:%23zUku1sAJHA.4368@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Hi: > > I have a friend who has a Sony desktop running Windows Home XP SP2. He has > 20GB of HD space on C:\ and 60GB on D:\ and his problem is C:\ is almost > full and D:\ has practically nothing. > > I purchased Norton Partition Magic 8.05 in an effort to merge the D:\ > drive with the C:\ drive, as this was the most recommended software. Has > anyone used this to merge partitions successfully? > > What concerns me is that I read a posting about the prior version 8.01 > with someone trying to merge partitions and they lost everything in the > process. > > Any comments and/or suggestions will be appreciated. > > Thanks > > If you're concerned about the using Partition Magic's merge feature, why not move the files on D to C, delete the partition containing the D drive, and expand C to take up the entire hard drive? Keep in mind that you should back up any of your friend's important files before using PM. Good luck Nepatsfan
Guest John John (MVP) Posted August 20, 2008 Posted August 20, 2008 Re: Merging Partitons These tools are well proven and in 99.999% of cases all goes well and the results are flawless. However in the .001% of cases where things do go wrong the results are usually catastrophic and most often *all* data on the disk is lost! *Make sure* that you have a working backup of your precious files before you do any partitioning work! John ColTom2 wrote: > Hi: > > I have a friend who has a Sony desktop running Windows Home XP SP2. He has > 20GB of HD space on C:\ and 60GB on D:\ and his problem is C:\ is almost > full and D:\ has practically nothing. > > I purchased Norton Partition Magic 8.05 in an effort to merge the D:\ > drive with the C:\ drive, as this was the most recommended software. Has > anyone used this to merge partitions successfully? > > What concerns me is that I read a posting about the prior version 8.01 > with someone trying to merge partitions and they lost everything in the > process. > > Any comments and/or suggestions will be appreciated. > > Thanks > >
Guest Pegasus \(MVP\) Posted August 20, 2008 Posted August 20, 2008 Re: Merging Partitons I would lop off three digits from your figure: Things go well in 99% of all cases and fail catastrophically in one case out of one hundred. But then this is just my personal opinion. Regardless of any partition merging, the OP's friend should ***always*** maintain a backup of his important files. Not doing so will cause a disaster. It's only a matter of time. "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message news:g8h9cd$asp$1@aioe.org... > These tools are well proven and in 99.999% of cases all goes well and the > results are flawless. However in the .001% of cases where things do go > wrong the results are usually catastrophic and most often *all* data on > the disk is lost! *Make sure* that you have a working backup of your > precious files before you do any partitioning work! > > John I would lop off three digits from your figure: Things go well in 99% of all cases and fail catastrophically in one case out of one hundred. But then this is just my personal opinion. Regardless of any partition merging, the OP's friend should ***always*** maintain a backup copy of his important files. Not doing so will result in a disaster. It's only a matter of time. We read the desperate cries for help here several times each week and we can just about hear the gnashing of the teeth.
Guest John John (MVP) Posted August 20, 2008 Posted August 20, 2008 Re: Merging Partitons Yes, I think I may have been a bit too optimistic. John Pegasus (MVP) wrote: > I would lop off three digits from your figure: Things go well in > 99% of all cases and fail catastrophically in one case out of > one hundred. But then this is just my personal opinion. Regardless > of any partition merging, the OP's friend should ***always*** > maintain a backup of his important files. Not doing so will cause > a disaster. It's only a matter of time. > > "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message > news:g8h9cd$asp$1@aioe.org... > >>These tools are well proven and in 99.999% of cases all goes well and the >>results are flawless. However in the .001% of cases where things do go >>wrong the results are usually catastrophic and most often *all* data on >>the disk is lost! *Make sure* that you have a working backup of your >>precious files before you do any partitioning work! >> >>John > > > > I would lop off three digits from your figure: Things go well in > 99% of all cases and fail catastrophically in one case out of > one hundred. But then this is just my personal opinion. Regardless > of any partition merging, the OP's friend should ***always*** > maintain a backup copy of his important files. Not doing so will > result in a disaster. It's only a matter of time. We read the desperate > cries for help here several times each week and we can just about > hear the gnashing of the teeth. > >
Guest ColTom2 Posted August 20, 2008 Posted August 20, 2008 Re: Merging Partitons Could I leave 10 GB including the 6 GB of files that he has on his D:\ drive and merge the remaining 50 GB into C:\ drive? "ColTom2" <noemailaddress@nomail.com> wrote in message news:%23zUku1sAJHA.4368@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... Hi: I have a friend who has a Sony desktop running Windows Home XP SP2. He has 20GB of HD space on C:\ and 60GB on D:\ and his problem is C:\ is almost full and D:\ has practically nothing. I purchased Norton Partition Magic 8.05 in an effort to merge the D:\ drive with the C:\ drive, as this was the most recommended software. Has anyone used this to merge partitions successfully? What concerns me is that I read a posting about the prior version 8.01 with someone trying to merge partitions and they lost everything in the process. Any comments and/or suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks
Guest db.·.. > Posted August 20, 2008 Posted August 20, 2008 Re: Merging Partitons you don't want to merge the partitions. what you want to do is to re allocate free space from one into the other. you can calculate how much to move if you simply make them equal (50/50) -- db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> "ColTom2" <noemailaddress@nomail.com> wrote in message news:exZU8dtAJHA.3728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Could I leave 10 GB including the 6 GB of files that he has on his D:\ > drive and merge the remaining 50 GB into C:\ drive? > > > "ColTom2" <noemailaddress@nomail.com> wrote in message > news:%23zUku1sAJHA.4368@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Hi: > > I have a friend who has a Sony desktop running Windows Home XP SP2. He has > 20GB of HD space on C:\ and 60GB on D:\ and his problem is C:\ is almost > full and D:\ has practically nothing. > > I purchased Norton Partition Magic 8.05 in an effort to merge the D:\ > drive with the C:\ drive, as this was the most recommended software. Has > anyone used this to merge partitions successfully? > > What concerns me is that I read a posting about the prior version 8.01 > with someone trying to merge partitions and they lost everything in the > process. > > Any comments and/or suggestions will be appreciated. > > Thanks > > >
Guest Terry R. Posted August 20, 2008 Posted August 20, 2008 Re: Merging Partitons The date and time was 8/20/2008 8:14 AM, and on a whim, ColTom2 pounded out on the keyboard: > Could I leave 10 GB including the 6 GB of files that he has on his D:\ > drive and merge the remaining 50 GB into C:\ drive? > > > "ColTom2" <noemailaddress@nomail.com> wrote in message > news:%23zUku1sAJHA.4368@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Hi: > > I have a friend who has a Sony desktop running Windows Home XP SP2. He has > 20GB of HD space on C:\ and 60GB on D:\ and his problem is C:\ is almost > full and D:\ has practically nothing. > > I purchased Norton Partition Magic 8.05 in an effort to merge the D:\ > drive with the C:\ drive, as this was the most recommended software. Has > anyone used this to merge partitions successfully? > > What concerns me is that I read a posting about the prior version 8.01 > with someone trying to merge partitions and they lost everything in the > process. > > Any comments and/or suggestions will be appreciated. > > Thanks > > > You don't "merge" empty space. If all the data from D: can fit on C:, then I would copy all the data from D: to C:, then in PM, delete the D: partition and expand the C: partition to the required size. If your friend still wants a D: drive, you could just resize D: making it smaller, and resize C: making it larger. IMO, that is safer than a merge (which adds data from one partition to another). But if you make a good backup prior, you're covered either way. -- Terry R. ***Reply Note*** Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply.
Guest HeyBub Posted August 20, 2008 Posted August 20, 2008 Re: Merging Partitons ColTom2 wrote: > Hi: > > I have a friend who has a Sony desktop running Windows Home XP SP2. > He has 20GB of HD space on C:\ and 60GB on D:\ and his problem is C:\ > is almost full and D:\ has practically nothing. > > I purchased Norton Partition Magic 8.05 in an effort to merge the D:\ > drive with the C:\ drive, as this was the most recommended software. > Has anyone used this to merge partitions successfully? > > What concerns me is that I read a posting about the prior version > 8.01 with someone trying to merge partitions and they lost everything > in the process. > > Any comments and/or suggestions will be appreciated. Uh, I assume your "C:" and "D:" are on the same physical hard drive. If they are on different drives, you'll need another solution.
Guest Gerry Posted August 20, 2008 Posted August 20, 2008 Re: Merging Partitons The User Licence means that if you use Partition Magic on your friend's machine you cannot use it on any other machine: http://www.symantec.com/content/en/us/about/media/PQ_Single_Standard_EULA_091603.pdf I would relocate folders from C to D and keep Partition Magic for use with your own machine. You can generate more space in the system partition by relocation of folders. For Temporary Internet Files select Start, Control Panel, Internet Options, Temporary Internet Files. Settings, Move Folder. To move the Outlook Express Store Folder select in Outlook Express Tools, Options, Maintenance, Store Folder, Change. http://www.tomsterdam.com/insideoe/files/store.htm How to Change the Default Location of the My Documents Folder: http://support.microsoft.com/?id=310147 You may also need to change Default File locations in the Microsoft Office programmes you choose to move the My Documents folder. For Word go to Tools, Options, File Locations, highlight Documents, click on Modify and change file path. For Excel go to Tools, Options, General and change default file path. My Documents is one of a number of system created Special Folders including My Pictures and My Music. These can more easily be relocated using Tweak Ui. Download TweakUI, one of the MS powertoys, from here: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/downloads/powertoys.asp In TweakUi select My Computer, Special Folders. You can scroll down to see the full list of Special Folders to the left of the Change Location button. -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ColTom2 wrote: > Could I leave 10 GB including the 6 GB of files that he has on his D:\ > drive and merge the remaining 50 GB into C:\ drive? > > > "ColTom2" <noemailaddress@nomail.com> wrote in message > news:%23zUku1sAJHA.4368@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Hi: > > I have a friend who has a Sony desktop running Windows Home XP SP2. > He has 20GB of HD space on C:\ and 60GB on D:\ and his problem is C:\ > is almost full and D:\ has practically nothing. > > I purchased Norton Partition Magic 8.05 in an effort to merge the D:\ > drive with the C:\ drive, as this was the most recommended software. > Has anyone used this to merge partitions successfully? > > What concerns me is that I read a posting about the prior version > 8.01 with someone trying to merge partitions and they lost everything > in the process. > > Any comments and/or suggestions will be appreciated. > > Thanks
Guest AJR Posted August 20, 2008 Posted August 20, 2008 Re: Merging Partitons You have two options 1. Merge the two partitions - meaning space and "Data" on D are merged with C. 2. Resize C - convert D to "free space" and extend C. "ColTom2" <noemailaddress@nomail.com> wrote in message news:%23zUku1sAJHA.4368@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Hi: > > I have a friend who has a Sony desktop running Windows Home XP SP2. He > has > 20GB of HD space on C:\ and 60GB on D:\ and his problem is C:\ is almost > full and D:\ has practically nothing. > > I purchased Norton Partition Magic 8.05 in an effort to merge the D:\ > drive with the C:\ drive, as this was the most recommended software. Has > anyone used this to merge partitions successfully? > > What concerns me is that I read a posting about the prior version 8.01 > with someone trying to merge partitions and they lost everything in the > process. > > Any comments and/or suggestions will be appreciated. > > Thanks > >
Guest ColTom2 Posted August 20, 2008 Posted August 20, 2008 Re: Merging Partitons From what I have interpreted from most of the postings it would be simpler and maybe safer just to merge D:/ into C:/. Yes both partitions are on the same HD. I really appreciate ALL the responses. Thanks "ColTom2" <noemailaddress@nomail.com> wrote in message news:%23zUku1sAJHA.4368@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... Hi: I have a friend who has a Sony desktop running Windows Home XP SP2. He has 20GB of HD space on C:\ and 60GB on D:\ and his problem is C:\ is almost full and D:\ has practically nothing. I purchased Norton Partition Magic 8.05 in an effort to merge the D:\ drive with the C:\ drive, as this was the most recommended software. Has anyone used this to merge partitions successfully? What concerns me is that I read a posting about the prior version 8.01 with someone trying to merge partitions and they lost everything in the process. Any comments and/or suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks
Guest Gerry Posted August 20, 2008 Posted August 20, 2008 Re: Merging Partitons It would be easier to move folders / files from one to the other? Is it two drives or two partitions on one drive? How much free disk space is there on each? -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ColTom2 wrote: > From what I have interpreted from most of the postings it would be > simpler and maybe safer just to merge D:/ into C:/. > > Yes both partitions are on the same HD. > > I really appreciate ALL the responses. > > Thanks > > > "ColTom2" <noemailaddress@nomail.com> wrote in message > news:%23zUku1sAJHA.4368@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Hi: > > I have a friend who has a Sony desktop running Windows Home XP SP2. > He has 20GB of HD space on C:\ and 60GB on D:\ and his problem is C:\ > is almost full and D:\ has practically nothing. > > I purchased Norton Partition Magic 8.05 in an effort to merge the D:\ > drive with the C:\ drive, as this was the most recommended software. > Has anyone used this to merge partitions successfully? > > What concerns me is that I read a posting about the prior version > 8.01 with someone trying to merge partitions and they lost everything > in the process. > > Any comments and/or suggestions will be appreciated. > > Thanks
Guest ColTom2 Posted August 20, 2008 Posted August 20, 2008 Re: Merging Partitons Gerry I indicated above that both partitions are on the same HD. C:/ has 20GB with 17GB used while D:/ has 60 GB with 6 GB used. "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message news:%23%238yIxwAJHA.4596@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... It would be easier to move folders / files from one to the other? Is it two drives or two partitions on one drive? How much free disk space is there on each? -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ColTom2 wrote: > From what I have interpreted from most of the postings it would be > simpler and maybe safer just to merge D:/ into C:/. > > Yes both partitions are on the same HD. > > I really appreciate ALL the responses. > > Thanks > > > "ColTom2" <noemailaddress@nomail.com> wrote in message > news:%23zUku1sAJHA.4368@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Hi: > > I have a friend who has a Sony desktop running Windows Home XP SP2. > He has 20GB of HD space on C:\ and 60GB on D:\ and his problem is C:\ > is almost full and D:\ has practically nothing. > > I purchased Norton Partition Magic 8.05 in an effort to merge the D:\ > drive with the C:\ drive, as this was the most recommended software. > Has anyone used this to merge partitions successfully? > > What concerns me is that I read a posting about the prior version > 8.01 with someone trying to merge partitions and they lost everything > in the process. > > Any comments and/or suggestions will be appreciated. > > Thanks
Guest Gerry Posted August 20, 2008 Posted August 20, 2008 Re: Merging Partitons Then the solution is as I indicted previously. By far the simplest. The User Licence means that if you use Partition Magic on your friend's machine you cannot use it on any other machine: http://www.symantec.com/content/en/us/about/media/PQ_Single_Standard_EULA_091603.pdf I would relocate folders from C to D and keep Partition Magic for use with your own machine. You can generate more space in the system partition by relocation of folders. For Temporary Internet Files select Start, Control Panel, Internet Options, Temporary Internet Files. Settings, Move Folder. To move the Outlook Express Store Folder select in Outlook Express Tools, Options, Maintenance, Store Folder, Change. http://www.tomsterdam.com/insideoe/files/store.htm How to Change the Default Location of the My Documents Folder: http://support.microsoft.com/?id=310147 You may also need to change Default File locations in the Microsoft Office programmes you choose to move the My Documents folder. For Word go to Tools, Options, File Locations, highlight Documents, click on Modify and change file path. For Excel go to Tools, Options, General and change default file path. My Documents is one of a number of system created Special Folders including My Pictures and My Music. These can more easily be relocated using Tweak Ui. Download TweakUI, one of the MS powertoys, from here: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/downloads/powertoys.asp In TweakUi select My Computer, Special Folders. You can scroll down to see the full list of Special Folders to the left of the Change Location button. Also consider. If your drive is formatted as NTFS another potential gain arises with your operating system on your C drive. In the Windows Directory of your C partition you will have some Uninstall folders in your Windows folder typically: $NtServicePackUninstall$ and $NtUninstallKB282010$ etc. These files may be compressed or not compressed. If compressed the text of the folder name appears in blue characters. If not compressed you can compress them. Right click on each folder and select Properties, General, Advanced and check the box before Compress contents to save Disk Space. On the General Tab you can see the amount gained by deducting the size on disk from the size. Folder compression is only an option on a NTFS formatted drive / partition. The default allocation to System Restore is 12% on your C partition which is over generous. I would reduce it to 700 mb. Right click your My Computer icon on the Desktop and select System Restore. Place the cursor on your C drive select Settings but this time find the slider and drag it to the left until it reads 700 mb and exit. When you get to the Settings screen click on Apply and OK and exit. Another default setting which could be wasteful is that for temporary internet files, especially if you do not store offline copies on disk. The default allocation is 3% of drive. Depending on your attitude to offline copies you could reduce this to 1% or 2%. In Internet Explorer select Tools, Internet Options, General, Temporary Internet Files, Settings to make the change. At the same time look at the number of days history is held. The default allocation for the Recycle Bin is 10 % of drive. Change to 5%, which should be sufficient. In Windows Explorer place the cursor on your Recycle Bin, right click and select Properties, Global and move the slider from 10% to 5%. However, try to avoid letting it get too full as if it is full and you delete a file by mistake it will bypass the Recycle Bin and be gone for ever. Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp to Empty your Recycle Bin and Remove Temporary Internet Files. Also select Start, All Programs, accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp, More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest System Restore point. Run Disk Defragmenter. Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, System Information, Tools, Dr Watson and verify that the box before "Append to existing log" is NOT checked. This means the next time the log is written it will overwrite rather than add to the existing file. The default maximum size setting for Event Viewer logs is too large. Reset the maximum for each log from 512 kb to 128 kb and set it to overwrite. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308427/en-us -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ColTom2 wrote: > Gerry I indicated above that both partitions are on the same HD. C:/ > has 20GB with 17GB used while D:/ has 60 GB with 6 GB used. > > > "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message > news:%23%238yIxwAJHA.4596@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > It would be easier to move folders / files from one to the other? > > Is it two drives or two partitions on one drive? How much free disk > space is there on each? > > > ColTom2 wrote: >> From what I have interpreted from most of the postings it would be >> simpler and maybe safer just to merge D:/ into C:/. >> >> Yes both partitions are on the same HD. >> >> I really appreciate ALL the responses. >> >> Thanks >> >> >> "ColTom2" <noemailaddress@nomail.com> wrote in message >> news:%23zUku1sAJHA.4368@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> Hi: >> >> I have a friend who has a Sony desktop running Windows Home XP SP2. >> He has 20GB of HD space on C:\ and 60GB on D:\ and his problem is C:\ >> is almost full and D:\ has practically nothing. >> >> I purchased Norton Partition Magic 8.05 in an effort to merge the >> D:\ drive with the C:\ drive, as this was the most recommended >> software. Has anyone used this to merge partitions successfully? >> >> What concerns me is that I read a posting about the prior version >> 8.01 with someone trying to merge partitions and they lost everything >> in the process. >> >> Any comments and/or suggestions will be appreciated. >> >> Thanks
Guest ColTom2 Posted August 21, 2008 Posted August 21, 2008 Re: Merging Partitons My friend is paying for the software, so that is not an issue. I do not need it, as both my computers have only one partition. I have already accomplished most of the items you have mentioned in freeing up HD space with the exception of moving folders etc which to me seems like a lot of work plus you have two partitions still to work with rather than one when completed. If I merge the D:. into the C:/ which currently has all the OS files, then I have everything in one partition which to me simplifies even more so. Only one partition to defrag, CHKDSK, etc I am sorry to say, but I do not follow your logic as you have outlined. Thanks "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message news:%23EOFnwxAJHA.2056@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... Then the solution is as I indicted previously. By far the simplest. The User Licence means that if you use Partition Magic on your friend's machine you cannot use it on any other machine: http://www.symantec.com/content/en/us/about/media/PQ_Single_Standard_EULA_091603.pdf I would relocate folders from C to D and keep Partition Magic for use with your own machine. You can generate more space in the system partition by relocation of folders. For Temporary Internet Files select Start, Control Panel, Internet Options, Temporary Internet Files. Settings, Move Folder. To move the Outlook Express Store Folder select in Outlook Express Tools, Options, Maintenance, Store Folder, Change. http://www.tomsterdam.com/insideoe/files/store.htm How to Change the Default Location of the My Documents Folder: http://support.microsoft.com/?id=310147 You may also need to change Default File locations in the Microsoft Office programmes you choose to move the My Documents folder. For Word go to Tools, Options, File Locations, highlight Documents, click on Modify and change file path. For Excel go to Tools, Options, General and change default file path. My Documents is one of a number of system created Special Folders including My Pictures and My Music. These can more easily be relocated using Tweak Ui. Download TweakUI, one of the MS powertoys, from here: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/downloads/powertoys.asp In TweakUi select My Computer, Special Folders. You can scroll down to see the full list of Special Folders to the left of the Change Location button. Also consider. If your drive is formatted as NTFS another potential gain arises with your operating system on your C drive. In the Windows Directory of your C partition you will have some Uninstall folders in your Windows folder typically: $NtServicePackUninstall$ and $NtUninstallKB282010$ etc. These files may be compressed or not compressed. If compressed the text of the folder name appears in blue characters. If not compressed you can compress them. Right click on each folder and select Properties, General, Advanced and check the box before Compress contents to save Disk Space. On the General Tab you can see the amount gained by deducting the size on disk from the size. Folder compression is only an option on a NTFS formatted drive / partition. The default allocation to System Restore is 12% on your C partition which is over generous. I would reduce it to 700 mb. Right click your My Computer icon on the Desktop and select System Restore. Place the cursor on your C drive select Settings but this time find the slider and drag it to the left until it reads 700 mb and exit. When you get to the Settings screen click on Apply and OK and exit. Another default setting which could be wasteful is that for temporary internet files, especially if you do not store offline copies on disk. The default allocation is 3% of drive. Depending on your attitude to offline copies you could reduce this to 1% or 2%. In Internet Explorer select Tools, Internet Options, General, Temporary Internet Files, Settings to make the change. At the same time look at the number of days history is held. The default allocation for the Recycle Bin is 10 % of drive. Change to 5%, which should be sufficient. In Windows Explorer place the cursor on your Recycle Bin, right click and select Properties, Global and move the slider from 10% to 5%. However, try to avoid letting it get too full as if it is full and you delete a file by mistake it will bypass the Recycle Bin and be gone for ever. Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp to Empty your Recycle Bin and Remove Temporary Internet Files. Also select Start, All Programs, accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp, More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest System Restore point. Run Disk Defragmenter. Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, System Information, Tools, Dr Watson and verify that the box before "Append to existing log" is NOT checked. This means the next time the log is written it will overwrite rather than add to the existing file. The default maximum size setting for Event Viewer logs is too large. Reset the maximum for each log from 512 kb to 128 kb and set it to overwrite. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308427/en-us -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ColTom2 wrote: > Gerry I indicated above that both partitions are on the same HD. C:/ > has 20GB with 17GB used while D:/ has 60 GB with 6 GB used. > > > "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message > news:%23%238yIxwAJHA.4596@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > It would be easier to move folders / files from one to the other? > > Is it two drives or two partitions on one drive? How much free disk > space is there on each? > > > ColTom2 wrote: >> From what I have interpreted from most of the postings it would be >> simpler and maybe safer just to merge D:/ into C:/. >> >> Yes both partitions are on the same HD. >> >> I really appreciate ALL the responses. >> >> Thanks >> >> >> "ColTom2" <noemailaddress@nomail.com> wrote in message >> news:%23zUku1sAJHA.4368@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> Hi: >> >> I have a friend who has a Sony desktop running Windows Home XP SP2. >> He has 20GB of HD space on C:\ and 60GB on D:\ and his problem is C:\ >> is almost full and D:\ has practically nothing. >> >> I purchased Norton Partition Magic 8.05 in an effort to merge the >> D:\ drive with the C:\ drive, as this was the most recommended >> software. Has anyone used this to merge partitions successfully? >> >> What concerns me is that I read a posting about the prior version >> 8.01 with someone trying to merge partitions and they lost everything >> in the process. >> >> Any comments and/or suggestions will be appreciated. >> >> Thanks
Guest Sunny Posted August 21, 2008 Posted August 21, 2008 Re: Merging Partitons "ColTom2" <noemailaddress@nomail.com> wrote in message news:ulNJeQyAJHA.4064@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > My friend is paying for the software, so that is not an issue. I do not > need > it, as both my computers have only one partition. > > I have already accomplished most of the items you have mentioned in > freeing > up HD space with the exception of moving folders etc which to me seems > like > a lot of work plus you have two partitions still to work with rather > than > one when completed. > > If I merge the D:. into the C:/ which currently has all the OS files, > then I > have everything in one partition which to me simplifies even more so. > Only > one partition to defrag, CHKDSK, etc <snip> Read pages 29 through 32 in the PM8 User Guide. It is far easier and safer to just resize partitions than "merge".
Guest sgopus Posted August 21, 2008 Posted August 21, 2008 Re: Merging Partitons if D drive is all data and no installed programs, then you can merge the partitions easily and have one large partition, be sure to back up your data first. "ColTom2" wrote: > My friend is paying for the software, so that is not an issue. I do not need > it, as both my computers have only one partition. > > I have already accomplished most of the items you have mentioned in freeing > up HD space with the exception of moving folders etc which to me seems like > a lot of work plus you have two partitions still to work with rather than > one when completed. > > If I merge the D:. into the C:/ which currently has all the OS files, then I > have everything in one partition which to me simplifies even more so. Only > one partition to defrag, CHKDSK, etc > > I am sorry to say, but I do not follow your logic as you have outlined. > > Thanks > > > > > "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message > news:%23EOFnwxAJHA.2056@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Then the solution is as I indicted previously. By far the simplest. > > The User Licence means that if you use Partition Magic on your friend's > machine you cannot use it on any other machine: > http://www.symantec.com/content/en/us/about/media/PQ_Single_Standard_EULA_091603.pdf > > I would relocate folders from C to D and keep Partition Magic for use > with your own machine. > > You can generate more space in the system partition by relocation of > folders. > > For Temporary Internet Files select Start, Control Panel, Internet > Options, Temporary Internet Files. Settings, Move Folder. > > To move the Outlook Express Store Folder select in Outlook Express > Tools, Options, Maintenance, Store Folder, Change. > http://www.tomsterdam.com/insideoe/files/store.htm > > How to Change the Default Location of the My Documents Folder: > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=310147 > > You may also need to change Default File locations in the Microsoft > Office programmes you choose to move the My Documents folder. For Word > go to Tools, Options, File Locations, highlight Documents, click on > Modify and change file path. For Excel go to Tools, Options, General > and change default file path. > > My Documents is one of a number of system created Special Folders > including My Pictures and My Music. These can more easily be relocated > using Tweak Ui. Download TweakUI, one of the MS powertoys, from here: > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/downloads/powertoys.asp > > In TweakUi select My Computer, Special Folders. You can scroll down to > see the full list of Special Folders to the left of the Change > Location button. > > Also consider. > > If your drive is formatted as NTFS another potential gain arises with > your operating system on your C drive. In the Windows Directory of > your C partition you will have some Uninstall folders in your Windows > folder typically: $NtServicePackUninstall$ and $NtUninstallKB282010$ > etc. These files may be compressed or not compressed. If compressed > the text of the folder name appears in blue characters. If not > compressed you can compress them. Right click on each folder and > select Properties, General, Advanced and check the box before Compress > contents to save Disk Space. On the General Tab you can see the amount > gained by deducting the size on disk from the size. Folder > compression is only an option on a NTFS formatted drive / partition. > > The default allocation to System Restore is 12% on your C partition > which is over generous. I would reduce it to 700 mb. Right click your My > Computer icon on the Desktop and select System Restore. Place the cursor > on your C drive select Settings but this time find the slider and drag > it to the left until it reads 700 mb and exit. When you get to the > Settings screen click on Apply and OK and exit. > > Another default setting which could be wasteful is that for temporary > internet files, especially if you do not store offline copies on disk. > The default allocation is 3% of drive. Depending on your attitude to > offline copies you could reduce this to 1% or 2%. In Internet Explorer > select Tools, Internet Options, General, Temporary Internet Files, > Settings to make the change. At the same time look at the number of days > history is held. > > The default allocation for the Recycle Bin is 10 % of drive. Change to > 5%, which should be sufficient. In Windows Explorer place the cursor > on your Recycle Bin, right click and select Properties, Global and > move the slider from 10% to 5%. However, try to avoid letting it get > too full as if it is full and you delete a file by mistake it will > bypass the Recycle Bin and be gone for ever. > > Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp to > Empty your Recycle Bin and Remove Temporary Internet Files. Also > select Start, All Programs, accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp, > More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest System > Restore point. Run Disk Defragmenter. > > Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, System > Information, Tools, Dr Watson and verify that the box before "Append to > existing log" is NOT checked. This means the next time the log is > written it will overwrite rather than add to the existing file. > > The default maximum size setting for Event Viewer logs is too large. > Reset the maximum for each log from 512 kb to 128 kb and set it to > overwrite. > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308427/en-us > > > -- > > > > Hope this helps. > > Gerry > ~~~~ > FCA > Stourport, England > Enquire, plan and execute > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > ColTom2 wrote: > > Gerry I indicated above that both partitions are on the same HD. C:/ > > has 20GB with 17GB used while D:/ has 60 GB with 6 GB used. > > > > > > "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message > > news:%23%238yIxwAJHA.4596@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > It would be easier to move folders / files from one to the other? > > > > Is it two drives or two partitions on one drive? How much free disk > > space is there on each? > > > > > > ColTom2 wrote: > >> From what I have interpreted from most of the postings it would be > >> simpler and maybe safer just to merge D:/ into C:/. > >> > >> Yes both partitions are on the same HD. > >> > >> I really appreciate ALL the responses. > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> > >> "ColTom2" <noemailaddress@nomail.com> wrote in message > >> news:%23zUku1sAJHA.4368@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > >> Hi: > >> > >> I have a friend who has a Sony desktop running Windows Home XP SP2. > >> He has 20GB of HD space on C:\ and 60GB on D:\ and his problem is C:\ > >> is almost full and D:\ has practically nothing. > >> > >> I purchased Norton Partition Magic 8.05 in an effort to merge the > >> D:\ drive with the C:\ drive, as this was the most recommended > >> software. Has anyone used this to merge partitions successfully? > >> > >> What concerns me is that I read a posting about the prior version > >> 8.01 with someone trying to merge partitions and they lost everything > >> in the process. > >> > >> Any comments and/or suggestions will be appreciated. > >> > >> Thanks > > > >
Guest Gerry Posted August 21, 2008 Posted August 21, 2008 Re: Merging Partitons Moving folders is not a lot of work, especially if using TweakUi to move systemic folders i.e. My Documents etc. If the system is properly maintained it is rarely necessary to run chkdsk. Separating system / programme files from data files can help with running Disk Defragmenter. You only need to run Disk Defragmenter on the system / programme partition after making significant changes. Having data files in their own partition means that there is far less to defragment so it takes far less time to complete the task. Maintenance is simplified if you can separate files that rapidly fragment from those that do not. The pagefile is a problem if you follow the accepted practice of allowing Windows to manage the file. Better to use a min =max setting but it can need some fiddling to get the file contiguous on an existing drive more than 40% full. http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders/WindowsGeneralWeb/RAMVirtualMemoryPageFileEtc.htm This paragraph describes a simple maintenance routine. Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp to Empty your Recycle Bin and Remove Temporary Internet Files. Also select Start, All Programs, accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp, More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest System Restore point. Run Disk Defragmenter. -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ColTom2 wrote: > My friend is paying for the software, so that is not an issue. I do > not need it, as both my computers have only one partition. > > I have already accomplished most of the items you have mentioned in > freeing up HD space with the exception of moving folders etc which to > me seems like a lot of work plus you have two partitions still to > work with rather than one when completed. > > If I merge the D:. into the C:/ which currently has all the OS files, > then I have everything in one partition which to me simplifies even > more so. Only one partition to defrag, CHKDSK, etc > > I am sorry to say, but I do not follow your logic as you have > outlined. > > Thanks > > > > > "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message > news:%23EOFnwxAJHA.2056@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Then the solution is as I indicted previously. By far the simplest. > > The User Licence means that if you use Partition Magic on your > friend's machine you cannot use it on any other machine: > http://www.symantec.com/content/en/us/about/media/PQ_Single_Standard_EULA_091603.pdf > > I would relocate folders from C to D and keep Partition Magic for use > with your own machine. > > You can generate more space in the system partition by relocation of > folders. > > For Temporary Internet Files select Start, Control Panel, Internet > Options, Temporary Internet Files. Settings, Move Folder. > > To move the Outlook Express Store Folder select in Outlook Express > Tools, Options, Maintenance, Store Folder, Change. > http://www.tomsterdam.com/insideoe/files/store.htm > > How to Change the Default Location of the My Documents Folder: > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=310147 > > You may also need to change Default File locations in the Microsoft > Office programmes you choose to move the My Documents folder. For Word > go to Tools, Options, File Locations, highlight Documents, click on > Modify and change file path. For Excel go to Tools, Options, General > and change default file path. > > My Documents is one of a number of system created Special Folders > including My Pictures and My Music. These can more easily be relocated > using Tweak Ui. Download TweakUI, one of the MS powertoys, from here: > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/downloads/powertoys.asp > > In TweakUi select My Computer, Special Folders. You can scroll down to > see the full list of Special Folders to the left of the Change > Location button. > > Also consider. > > If your drive is formatted as NTFS another potential gain arises with > your operating system on your C drive. In the Windows Directory of > your C partition you will have some Uninstall folders in your Windows > folder typically: $NtServicePackUninstall$ and $NtUninstallKB282010$ > etc. These files may be compressed or not compressed. If compressed > the text of the folder name appears in blue characters. If not > compressed you can compress them. Right click on each folder and > select Properties, General, Advanced and check the box before Compress > contents to save Disk Space. On the General Tab you can see the amount > gained by deducting the size on disk from the size. Folder > compression is only an option on a NTFS formatted drive / partition. > > The default allocation to System Restore is 12% on your C partition > which is over generous. I would reduce it to 700 mb. Right click your > My Computer icon on the Desktop and select System Restore. Place the > cursor > on your C drive select Settings but this time find the slider and drag > it to the left until it reads 700 mb and exit. When you get to the > Settings screen click on Apply and OK and exit. > > Another default setting which could be wasteful is that for temporary > internet files, especially if you do not store offline copies on disk. > The default allocation is 3% of drive. Depending on your attitude to > offline copies you could reduce this to 1% or 2%. In Internet Explorer > select Tools, Internet Options, General, Temporary Internet Files, > Settings to make the change. At the same time look at the number of > days history is held. > > The default allocation for the Recycle Bin is 10 % of drive. Change to > 5%, which should be sufficient. In Windows Explorer place the cursor > on your Recycle Bin, right click and select Properties, Global and > move the slider from 10% to 5%. However, try to avoid letting it get > too full as if it is full and you delete a file by mistake it will > bypass the Recycle Bin and be gone for ever. > > Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp to > Empty your Recycle Bin and Remove Temporary Internet Files. Also > select Start, All Programs, accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp, > More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest System > Restore point. Run Disk Defragmenter. > > Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, System > Information, Tools, Dr Watson and verify that the box before "Append > to existing log" is NOT checked. This means the next time the log is > written it will overwrite rather than add to the existing file. > > The default maximum size setting for Event Viewer logs is too large. > Reset the maximum for each log from 512 kb to 128 kb and set it to > overwrite. > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308427/en-us > > > > ColTom2 wrote: >> Gerry I indicated above that both partitions are on the same HD. C:/ >> has 20GB with 17GB used while D:/ has 60 GB with 6 GB used. >> >> >> "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message >> news:%23%238yIxwAJHA.4596@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> It would be easier to move folders / files from one to the other? >> >> Is it two drives or two partitions on one drive? How much free disk >> space is there on each? >> >> >> ColTom2 wrote: >>> From what I have interpreted from most of the postings it would be >>> simpler and maybe safer just to merge D:/ into C:/. >>> >>> Yes both partitions are on the same HD. >>> >>> I really appreciate ALL the responses. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> >>> "ColTom2" <noemailaddress@nomail.com> wrote in message >>> news:%23zUku1sAJHA.4368@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>> Hi: >>> >>> I have a friend who has a Sony desktop running Windows Home XP SP2. >>> He has 20GB of HD space on C:\ and 60GB on D:\ and his problem is >>> C:\ is almost full and D:\ has practically nothing. >>> >>> I purchased Norton Partition Magic 8.05 in an effort to merge the >>> D:\ drive with the C:\ drive, as this was the most recommended >>> software. Has anyone used this to merge partitions successfully? >>> >>> What concerns me is that I read a posting about the prior version >>> 8.01 with someone trying to merge partitions and they lost >>> everything in the process. >>> >>> Any comments and/or suggestions will be appreciated. >>> >>> Thanks
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