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Guest lamaslany
Posted

We have been using Terminal Services for our desktop provision to staff for

many years now and as a result we have many dozens of HP thin clients out in

the field (and by field I mean teleworking locations and in the homes of our

staff). 80% of our users are able to work remotely in this fashion and the

remaining 20% work on the terminal servers using thin clients on site.

 

We are looking to move to Windows Server 2008 and one of the main features

we are looking to implement is the TS Gateway.

 

Unfortunately while users with access to PCs and laptops (~20%) should have

no problems I am growing concerned for the thin client users.

 

Is there a list of supported thin clients (even if it includes non-HP

hardware) that supports the TS gateway?

 

I know the feature is new but I assumed, perhaps erroneously, that there

would be an updated RDP client that'd do the job.

 

PS: If anyone has managed to get their HP thin clients to connect via a TS

gateway I'd appreciate the model number.

 

 

Many thanks,

Guest Jeff Pitsch
Posted

Re: Thin client support for TS Gateway

 

It's mainly going to depend on OS and the vendors to update certain pieces.

what OS are you using on the thing clients? If it's Linux, Rdesktop is the

main clien there and would have to be updated (open source project), if it's

wince you may be out of luck, if it's proprietary (like Wyse's thinos) then

you need to wait for the vendor to catch up.

 

--

Jeff Pitsch

Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

 

"lamaslany" <lamaslany@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:AF56608D-E673-4FF0-8947-6584DD4EDDB1@microsoft.com...

> We have been using Terminal Services for our desktop provision to staff

> for

> many years now and as a result we have many dozens of HP thin clients out

> in

> the field (and by field I mean teleworking locations and in the homes of

> our

> staff). 80% of our users are able to work remotely in this fashion and the

> remaining 20% work on the terminal servers using thin clients on site.

>

> We are looking to move to Windows Server 2008 and one of the main features

> we are looking to implement is the TS Gateway.

>

> Unfortunately while users with access to PCs and laptops (~20%) should

> have

> no problems I am growing concerned for the thin client users.

>

> Is there a list of supported thin clients (even if it includes non-HP

> hardware) that supports the TS gateway?

>

> I know the feature is new but I assumed, perhaps erroneously, that there

> would be an updated RDP client that'd do the job.

>

> PS: If anyone has managed to get their HP thin clients to connect via a TS

> gateway I'd appreciate the model number.

>

>

> Many thanks,

Guest lamaslany
Posted

Re: Thin client support for TS Gateway

 

Thanks Jeff.

 

Predominantly we use HP thin clients. Most are t5500's of which all of

those are Windows CE. We do have a couple of t5700's but not enough to make

a difference.

 

I will investigate the Linux option - I confess I would have preferred to

stick with WinCE, maybe even upgrade to XPe if it were possible and not cost

prohibitive, but I guess we'll be going with whatever works! :)

 

 

 

"Jeff Pitsch" wrote:

> It's mainly going to depend on OS and the vendors to update certain pieces.

> what OS are you using on the thing clients? If it's Linux, Rdesktop is the

> main clien there and would have to be updated (open source project), if it's

> wince you may be out of luck, if it's proprietary (like Wyse's thinos) then

> you need to wait for the vendor to catch up.

>

> --

> Jeff Pitsch

> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

>

> "lamaslany" <lamaslany@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:AF56608D-E673-4FF0-8947-6584DD4EDDB1@microsoft.com...

> > We have been using Terminal Services for our desktop provision to staff

> > for

> > many years now and as a result we have many dozens of HP thin clients out

> > in

> > the field (and by field I mean teleworking locations and in the homes of

> > our

> > staff). 80% of our users are able to work remotely in this fashion and the

> > remaining 20% work on the terminal servers using thin clients on site.

> >

> > We are looking to move to Windows Server 2008 and one of the main features

> > we are looking to implement is the TS Gateway.

> >

> > Unfortunately while users with access to PCs and laptops (~20%) should

> > have

> > no problems I am growing concerned for the thin client users.

> >

> > Is there a list of supported thin clients (even if it includes non-HP

> > hardware) that supports the TS gateway?

> >

> > I know the feature is new but I assumed, perhaps erroneously, that there

> > would be an updated RDP client that'd do the job.

> >

> > PS: If anyone has managed to get their HP thin clients to connect via a TS

> > gateway I'd appreciate the model number.

> >

> >

> > Many thanks,

>

>

>

Guest Jeff Pitsch
Posted

Re: Thin client support for TS Gateway

 

well I never said Linux was the solution. I was simply trying to give

examples of how thin clients can be configured. Now I'm not sure who

actually makes the wince clients. I'm guessing MS but I wouldn't be

surprised if they were modified or whatever by the manufacturer as well.

 

--

Jeff Pitsch

Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

 

"lamaslany" <lamaslany@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:F0F672B0-BC52-4E08-8564-583CAA996D1E@microsoft.com...

> Thanks Jeff.

>

> Predominantly we use HP thin clients. Most are t5500's of which all of

> those are Windows CE. We do have a couple of t5700's but not enough to

> make

> a difference.

>

> I will investigate the Linux option - I confess I would have preferred to

> stick with WinCE, maybe even upgrade to XPe if it were possible and not

> cost

> prohibitive, but I guess we'll be going with whatever works! :)

>

>

>

> "Jeff Pitsch" wrote:

>

>> It's mainly going to depend on OS and the vendors to update certain

>> pieces.

>> what OS are you using on the thing clients? If it's Linux, Rdesktop is

>> the

>> main clien there and would have to be updated (open source project), if

>> it's

>> wince you may be out of luck, if it's proprietary (like Wyse's thinos)

>> then

>> you need to wait for the vendor to catch up.

>>

>> --

>> Jeff Pitsch

>> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

>>

>> "lamaslany" <lamaslany@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:AF56608D-E673-4FF0-8947-6584DD4EDDB1@microsoft.com...

>> > We have been using Terminal Services for our desktop provision to staff

>> > for

>> > many years now and as a result we have many dozens of HP thin clients

>> > out

>> > in

>> > the field (and by field I mean teleworking locations and in the homes

>> > of

>> > our

>> > staff). 80% of our users are able to work remotely in this fashion and

>> > the

>> > remaining 20% work on the terminal servers using thin clients on site.

>> >

>> > We are looking to move to Windows Server 2008 and one of the main

>> > features

>> > we are looking to implement is the TS Gateway.

>> >

>> > Unfortunately while users with access to PCs and laptops (~20%) should

>> > have

>> > no problems I am growing concerned for the thin client users.

>> >

>> > Is there a list of supported thin clients (even if it includes non-HP

>> > hardware) that supports the TS gateway?

>> >

>> > I know the feature is new but I assumed, perhaps erroneously, that

>> > there

>> > would be an updated RDP client that'd do the job.

>> >

>> > PS: If anyone has managed to get their HP thin clients to connect via a

>> > TS

>> > gateway I'd appreciate the model number.

>> >

>> >

>> > Many thanks,

>>

>>

>>

Guest Jeff Pitsch
Posted

Re: Thin client support for TS Gateway

 

Gah I'm so stupid. I totally overthought. WinCE is much like Windows

Mobile. You typically only get new versions of software with a new version

of the OS. So your probably going to have to get an upgrade to your WinCE

or move to XPe to be able to do wha tyou want.

 

--

Jeff Pitsch

Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

 

"Jeff Pitsch" <jeff@jeffpitschconsulting.com> wrote in message

news:ulCeI$uAJHA.5316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> well I never said Linux was the solution. I was simply trying to give

> examples of how thin clients can be configured. Now I'm not sure who

> actually makes the wince clients. I'm guessing MS but I wouldn't be

> surprised if they were modified or whatever by the manufacturer as well.

>

> --

> Jeff Pitsch

> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

>

> "lamaslany" <lamaslany@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:F0F672B0-BC52-4E08-8564-583CAA996D1E@microsoft.com...

>> Thanks Jeff.

>>

>> Predominantly we use HP thin clients. Most are t5500's of which all of

>> those are Windows CE. We do have a couple of t5700's but not enough to

>> make

>> a difference.

>>

>> I will investigate the Linux option - I confess I would have preferred to

>> stick with WinCE, maybe even upgrade to XPe if it were possible and not

>> cost

>> prohibitive, but I guess we'll be going with whatever works! :)

>>

>>

>>

>> "Jeff Pitsch" wrote:

>>

>>> It's mainly going to depend on OS and the vendors to update certain

>>> pieces.

>>> what OS are you using on the thing clients? If it's Linux, Rdesktop is

>>> the

>>> main clien there and would have to be updated (open source project), if

>>> it's

>>> wince you may be out of luck, if it's proprietary (like Wyse's thinos)

>>> then

>>> you need to wait for the vendor to catch up.

>>>

>>> --

>>> Jeff Pitsch

>>> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

>>>

>>> "lamaslany" <lamaslany@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>> news:AF56608D-E673-4FF0-8947-6584DD4EDDB1@microsoft.com...

>>> > We have been using Terminal Services for our desktop provision to

>>> > staff

>>> > for

>>> > many years now and as a result we have many dozens of HP thin clients

>>> > out

>>> > in

>>> > the field (and by field I mean teleworking locations and in the homes

>>> > of

>>> > our

>>> > staff). 80% of our users are able to work remotely in this fashion and

>>> > the

>>> > remaining 20% work on the terminal servers using thin clients on site.

>>> >

>>> > We are looking to move to Windows Server 2008 and one of the main

>>> > features

>>> > we are looking to implement is the TS Gateway.

>>> >

>>> > Unfortunately while users with access to PCs and laptops (~20%) should

>>> > have

>>> > no problems I am growing concerned for the thin client users.

>>> >

>>> > Is there a list of supported thin clients (even if it includes non-HP

>>> > hardware) that supports the TS gateway?

>>> >

>>> > I know the feature is new but I assumed, perhaps erroneously, that

>>> > there

>>> > would be an updated RDP client that'd do the job.

>>> >

>>> > PS: If anyone has managed to get their HP thin clients to connect via

>>> > a TS

>>> > gateway I'd appreciate the model number.

>>> >

>>> >

>>> > Many thanks,

>>>

>>>

>>>

>

>

Guest lamaslany
Posted

Re: Thin client support for TS Gateway

 

I feared that might be the case. To my mind though that fact alone is one of

the reasons using a Linux image rather than the WinCE image is looking so

attractive! :)

 

To my knowledge WinCE 6 is the latest version of Windows CE and is a

distinctly seperate product from Windows XPe.

 

Do you, or anyone else reading this, know if it is possible to upgrade from

Windows CE to Windows XPe? That is to say assuming that the minimum hardware

specifications are met it is possible to buy Windows XPe licenses and media

for the purposes of upgrading from Windows CE?

 

Thanks again,

 

"Jeff Pitsch" wrote:

> Gah I'm so stupid. I totally overthought. WinCE is much like Windows

> Mobile. You typically only get new versions of software with a new version

> of the OS. So your probably going to have to get an upgrade to your WinCE

> or move to XPe to be able to do wha tyou want.

>

> --

> Jeff Pitsch

> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

>

Guest Jeff Pitsch
Posted

Re: Thin client support for TS Gateway

 

The upgrade question I do not know. I would tend to doubt it but I simply

do not know.

 

--

Jeff Pitsch

Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

 

"lamaslany" <lamaslany@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:9DB52A5E-F3E2-4992-8BA7-415E9C6D58C0@microsoft.com...

>I feared that might be the case. To my mind though that fact alone is one

>of

> the reasons using a Linux image rather than the WinCE image is looking so

> attractive! :)

>

> To my knowledge WinCE 6 is the latest version of Windows CE and is a

> distinctly seperate product from Windows XPe.

>

> Do you, or anyone else reading this, know if it is possible to upgrade

> from

> Windows CE to Windows XPe? That is to say assuming that the minimum

> hardware

> specifications are met it is possible to buy Windows XPe licenses and

> media

> for the purposes of upgrading from Windows CE?

>

> Thanks again,

>

> "Jeff Pitsch" wrote:

>

>> Gah I'm so stupid. I totally overthought. WinCE is much like Windows

>> Mobile. You typically only get new versions of software with a new

>> version

>> of the OS. So your probably going to have to get an upgrade to your

>> WinCE

>> or move to XPe to be able to do wha tyou want.

>>

>> --

>> Jeff Pitsch

>> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

>>

Guest Jeff Pitsch
Posted

Re: Thin client support for TS Gateway

 

Actually I was just playing with a thin client from CLI and I forgot about

this. The CLI thin clients have replaceable modules so you can put in XPe,

Linux, or WinCE just by changing the module.

 

--

Jeff Pitsch

Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

 

"Jeff Pitsch" <jeff@jeffpitschconsulting.com> wrote in message

news:eWkBfD4AJHA.2264@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> The upgrade question I do not know. I would tend to doubt it but I simply

> do not know.

>

> --

> Jeff Pitsch

> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

>

> "lamaslany" <lamaslany@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:9DB52A5E-F3E2-4992-8BA7-415E9C6D58C0@microsoft.com...

>>I feared that might be the case. To my mind though that fact alone is one

>>of

>> the reasons using a Linux image rather than the WinCE image is looking so

>> attractive! :)

>>

>> To my knowledge WinCE 6 is the latest version of Windows CE and is a

>> distinctly seperate product from Windows XPe.

>>

>> Do you, or anyone else reading this, know if it is possible to upgrade

>> from

>> Windows CE to Windows XPe? That is to say assuming that the minimum

>> hardware

>> specifications are met it is possible to buy Windows XPe licenses and

>> media

>> for the purposes of upgrading from Windows CE?

>>

>> Thanks again,

>>

>> "Jeff Pitsch" wrote:

>>

>>> Gah I'm so stupid. I totally overthought. WinCE is much like Windows

>>> Mobile. You typically only get new versions of software with a new

>>> version

>>> of the OS. So your probably going to have to get an upgrade to your

>>> WinCE

>>> or move to XPe to be able to do wha tyou want.

>>>

>>> --

>>> Jeff Pitsch

>>> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

>>>

>

>

Guest Jeff Pitsch
Posted

Re: Thin client support for TS Gateway

 

So what I'm trying to say is I'm sure most vendors are like this where it's

a simple replaceable module or a reflash of the existing module.

 

--

Jeff Pitsch

Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

 

"Jeff Pitsch" <jeff@jeffpitschconsulting.com> wrote in message

news:%23Mr22c5AJHA.1136@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> Actually I was just playing with a thin client from CLI and I forgot about

> this. The CLI thin clients have replaceable modules so you can put in

> XPe, Linux, or WinCE just by changing the module.

>

> --

> Jeff Pitsch

> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

>

> "Jeff Pitsch" <jeff@jeffpitschconsulting.com> wrote in message

> news:eWkBfD4AJHA.2264@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> The upgrade question I do not know. I would tend to doubt it but I

>> simply do not know.

>>

>> --

>> Jeff Pitsch

>> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

>>

>> "lamaslany" <lamaslany@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:9DB52A5E-F3E2-4992-8BA7-415E9C6D58C0@microsoft.com...

>>>I feared that might be the case. To my mind though that fact alone is

>>>one of

>>> the reasons using a Linux image rather than the WinCE image is looking

>>> so

>>> attractive! :)

>>>

>>> To my knowledge WinCE 6 is the latest version of Windows CE and is a

>>> distinctly seperate product from Windows XPe.

>>>

>>> Do you, or anyone else reading this, know if it is possible to upgrade

>>> from

>>> Windows CE to Windows XPe? That is to say assuming that the minimum

>>> hardware

>>> specifications are met it is possible to buy Windows XPe licenses and

>>> media

>>> for the purposes of upgrading from Windows CE?

>>>

>>> Thanks again,

>>>

>>> "Jeff Pitsch" wrote:

>>>

>>>> Gah I'm so stupid. I totally overthought. WinCE is much like Windows

>>>> Mobile. You typically only get new versions of software with a new

>>>> version

>>>> of the OS. So your probably going to have to get an upgrade to your

>>>> WinCE

>>>> or move to XPe to be able to do wha tyou want.

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Jeff Pitsch

>>>> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

>>>>

>>

>>

>

>

  • 1 month later...
Guest HiltonT
Posted

Re: Thin client support for TS Gateway

 

Hi Guys,

 

The issues I see with all Thin Client OSes are as follows:

 

1. XPe - the most advanced TC OS, is only available as XPe SP2 which doesn't

contain MS RDC 6.1. You *could* try installing it onto the TC, but I'm not

too sure this would work (I don't have one here now to play with, either).

No noise heard about manufacturers moving to XPe SP3 yet. I wonder when this

will happen.

 

2. Vista Embedded. Not likely! :)

 

3. WinCE - All of the TCs I've seen based on WinCE are WinCE 5.0 at best -

nothing is based on the current WinCE release - 6.0. I don't know if WinCE

6.0 even has MS RDC 6.1, but I'd be betting that it doesn't, unfortunately.

 

4. Linux - if using rdesktop (which they all seem to), then there's been no

development of this in years, with the latest RDP protocol supported being

the old (old) 5.2 version. So, unfortunately, none of the Linux-based TC

OSes will worrk either.

 

5. Proprietary - both Wyse and HP, and likely others, have their own

proprietary TC OSes. Who knows what protocols they support and when new

protocol support will be added to these OSes.

 

Basically, right now, not even Microsoft's own TC OSes support MS RDC 6.1,

which is quite disappointing. I'd like to see MS pushing manufacturers to

upgrade their WinCE 5.0 to 6.0 and XPe to SP3, and have MS RDC 6.1 in all of

these - this would make the current WinCE and XPe TCs quite functional in TS

2008.

 

--

Regards,

Hilton Travis

http://blog.hiltontravis.com/

Managing Director

Quark IT

Brisbane, Australia

 

Australian SBSC PAL - FY08-09

http://www.SBSCPAL.com/

 

 

"Jeff Pitsch" wrote:

> So what I'm trying to say is I'm sure most vendors are like this where it's

> a simple replaceable module or a reflash of the existing module.

>

> --

> Jeff Pitsch

> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

>

> "Jeff Pitsch" <jeff@jeffpitschconsulting.com> wrote in message

> news:%23Mr22c5AJHA.1136@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> > Actually I was just playing with a thin client from CLI and I forgot about

> > this. The CLI thin clients have replaceable modules so you can put in

> > XPe, Linux, or WinCE just by changing the module.

> >

> > --

> > Jeff Pitsch

> > Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

> >

> > "Jeff Pitsch" <jeff@jeffpitschconsulting.com> wrote in message

> > news:eWkBfD4AJHA.2264@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> >> The upgrade question I do not know. I would tend to doubt it but I

> >> simply do not know.

> >>

> >> --

> >> Jeff Pitsch

> >> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

> >>

> >> "lamaslany" <lamaslany@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> >> news:9DB52A5E-F3E2-4992-8BA7-415E9C6D58C0@microsoft.com...

> >>>I feared that might be the case. To my mind though that fact alone is

> >>>one of

> >>> the reasons using a Linux image rather than the WinCE image is looking

> >>> so

> >>> attractive! :)

> >>>

> >>> To my knowledge WinCE 6 is the latest version of Windows CE and is a

> >>> distinctly seperate product from Windows XPe.

> >>>

> >>> Do you, or anyone else reading this, know if it is possible to upgrade

> >>> from

> >>> Windows CE to Windows XPe? That is to say assuming that the minimum

> >>> hardware

> >>> specifications are met it is possible to buy Windows XPe licenses and

> >>> media

> >>> for the purposes of upgrading from Windows CE?

> >>>

> >>> Thanks again,

> >>>

> >>> "Jeff Pitsch" wrote:

> >>>

> >>>> Gah I'm so stupid. I totally overthought. WinCE is much like Windows

> >>>> Mobile. You typically only get new versions of software with a new

> >>>> version

> >>>> of the OS. So your probably going to have to get an upgrade to your

> >>>> WinCE

> >>>> or move to XPe to be able to do wha tyou want.

> >>>>

> >>>> --

> >>>> Jeff Pitsch

> >>>> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

Guest Benny Tritsch [MVP]
Posted

Re: Thin client support for TS Gateway

 

What we are seeing here is the good old chicken and egg problem. Right now

I'm on a virtualization roadshow through Germany, explaining IT pros all

aspects of virtualization - TS, App-V, Hyper-V, Desktop-V, Profile-V,

Citrix, VMware, Provision Networks etc. The German market always was and

still is very good for terminal servers. But as of today almost none of the

TS customers migrated to Windows Server 2008, yet. They're still happy with

their combination of Windows Server 2003 TS and Citrix MetaFrame/XenApp,

which constitutes 95% or more of the current environments. These customers

are fine with thin clients only supporting RDP 5.2. TS customers tend to be

very conservative in Europe, they invested too much money into their

existing TS/Citrix environments to just dump them and replace them by

something new.

 

However, most of the same customers start considering migrating to Windows

Server 2008 in the future, well, as soon as they know if all their apps can

be installed on this new platform and as soon as App-V 4.5 is finally

released for terminal servers and after they figured out how much it's gonna

cost them. And more and more they start looking at alternatives to expensive

Citrix licenses - which does not mean that they all WILL get rid of Citrix

licenses in the near future but their investigation certainly creates some

POC activities. This all takes time! All I want to say is that the real TS

2008 migration business may start during the next 12 months, most of the

projects with the goal to reduce costs. As soon as customers really start

migrating to the new TS platform, they will also demand thin clients to

support RDP 6.1. I get the impression that thin client vendors are only

waiting for the right moment in time until they release their new versions

of RDC. Why provide functionality customers can't appreciate today. The

right timing is key. And in April Microsoft published the RDP protocol

specs, now anybody can develop a fully compatible RDP client, independent if

it runs on XPe, WinCE, Linux...

 

Just my two cents...

 

--

Benny Tritsch

Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

--

"HiltonT" <HiltonT@discussions.microsoft.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag

news:E5E8BAD5-2301-4309-A03C-A51E6876D367@microsoft.com...

> Hi Guys,

>

> The issues I see with all Thin Client OSes are as follows:

>

> 1. XPe - the most advanced TC OS, is only available as XPe SP2 which

> doesn't

> contain MS RDC 6.1. You *could* try installing it onto the TC, but I'm

> not

> too sure this would work (I don't have one here now to play with, either).

> No noise heard about manufacturers moving to XPe SP3 yet. I wonder when

> this

> will happen.

>

> 2. Vista Embedded. Not likely! :)

>

> 3. WinCE - All of the TCs I've seen based on WinCE are WinCE 5.0 at best -

> nothing is based on the current WinCE release - 6.0. I don't know if

> WinCE

> 6.0 even has MS RDC 6.1, but I'd be betting that it doesn't,

> unfortunately.

>

> 4. Linux - if using rdesktop (which they all seem to), then there's been

> no

> development of this in years, with the latest RDP protocol supported being

> the old (old) 5.2 version. So, unfortunately, none of the Linux-based TC

> OSes will worrk either.

>

> 5. Proprietary - both Wyse and HP, and likely others, have their own

> proprietary TC OSes. Who knows what protocols they support and when new

> protocol support will be added to these OSes.

>

> Basically, right now, not even Microsoft's own TC OSes support MS RDC 6.1,

> which is quite disappointing. I'd like to see MS pushing manufacturers to

> upgrade their WinCE 5.0 to 6.0 and XPe to SP3, and have MS RDC 6.1 in all

> of

> these - this would make the current WinCE and XPe TCs quite functional in

> TS

> 2008.

>

> --

> Regards,

> Hilton Travis

> http://blog.hiltontravis.com/

> Managing Director

> Quark IT

> Brisbane, Australia

>

> Australian SBSC PAL - FY08-09

> http://www.SBSCPAL.com/

>

>

> "Jeff Pitsch" wrote:

>

>> So what I'm trying to say is I'm sure most vendors are like this where

>> it's

>> a simple replaceable module or a reflash of the existing module.

>>

>> --

>> Jeff Pitsch

>> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

>>

>> "Jeff Pitsch" <jeff@jeffpitschconsulting.com> wrote in message

>> news:%23Mr22c5AJHA.1136@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> > Actually I was just playing with a thin client from CLI and I forgot

>> > about

>> > this. The CLI thin clients have replaceable modules so you can put in

>> > XPe, Linux, or WinCE just by changing the module.

>> >

>> > --

>> > Jeff Pitsch

>> > Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

>> >

>> > "Jeff Pitsch" <jeff@jeffpitschconsulting.com> wrote in message

>> > news:eWkBfD4AJHA.2264@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> >> The upgrade question I do not know. I would tend to doubt it but I

>> >> simply do not know.

>> >>

>> >> --

>> >> Jeff Pitsch

>> >> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

>> >>

>> >> "lamaslany" <lamaslany@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> >> news:9DB52A5E-F3E2-4992-8BA7-415E9C6D58C0@microsoft.com...

>> >>>I feared that might be the case. To my mind though that fact alone is

>> >>>one of

>> >>> the reasons using a Linux image rather than the WinCE image is

>> >>> looking

>> >>> so

>> >>> attractive! :)

>> >>>

>> >>> To my knowledge WinCE 6 is the latest version of Windows CE and is a

>> >>> distinctly seperate product from Windows XPe.

>> >>>

>> >>> Do you, or anyone else reading this, know if it is possible to

>> >>> upgrade

>> >>> from

>> >>> Windows CE to Windows XPe? That is to say assuming that the minimum

>> >>> hardware

>> >>> specifications are met it is possible to buy Windows XPe licenses and

>> >>> media

>> >>> for the purposes of upgrading from Windows CE?

>> >>>

>> >>> Thanks again,

>> >>>

>> >>> "Jeff Pitsch" wrote:

>> >>>

>> >>>> Gah I'm so stupid. I totally overthought. WinCE is much like

>> >>>> Windows

>> >>>> Mobile. You typically only get new versions of software with a new

>> >>>> version

>> >>>> of the OS. So your probably going to have to get an upgrade to your

>> >>>> WinCE

>> >>>> or move to XPe to be able to do wha tyou want.

>> >>>>

>> >>>> --

>> >>>> Jeff Pitsch

>> >>>> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services

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