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Guest DaffyD®
Posted

Just curious. Are TMP files opened by wordpad.exe by default?

--

{ : [|]=( DaffyD®

 

If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

Guest Bill in Co.
Posted

Re: Temp Files

 

I seriously doubt it. In fact, I'd be surprised if they're opened by

anything by default.

 

DaffyD® wrote:

> Just curious. Are TMP files opened by wordpad.exe by default?

> --

> { : [|]=( DaffyD®

>

> If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

Guest Gary S. Terhune
Posted

Re: Temp Files

 

No. They should have NO association. In regedit, find HKEY_Classes_Root\.tmp

(not the leading period)and delete it.

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://grystmill.com

 

"DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

news:%23lzssJBBJHA.4368@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> Just curious. Are TMP files opened by wordpad.exe by default?

> --

> { : [|]=( DaffyD®

>

> If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

>

>

Posted

Re: Temp Files

 

That is what I like about 98 Second Edition, Bill in Co. --- users do it

themselves and can destroy themselves and the os in the process if they are

too dumb or not careful enough. I also like Gary's attitude towards TweakUI

that he does not use it because he does it all manually himself from another

98 general posting. This is the best way to be, I feel but I know that I am

not at that level of expertise yet. I still do not have the Windows 98

Scripting Host installed. I do not want scripts automatically written that

could destroy my 98 Second Edition. <grin>

 

In addition, I have now turned off automatic updates within XP Professional

Service Pack 3, I know about patch Tuesday the second Tuesday of every month

and I check at other times as well just to be safe. The question I am always

asking myself of XP Updates is will this break XP, will this fully trash my

os, what will this update break if anything, etc.

 

"Bill in Co." wrote:

> I seriously doubt it. In fact, I'd be surprised if they're opened by

> anything by default.

>

> DaffyD® wrote:

> > Just curious. Are TMP files opened by wordpad.exe by default?

> > --

> > { : [|]=( DaffyD®

> >

> > If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

>

>

>

Guest DaffyD®
Posted

Re: Temp Files

 

I found the file. The string value is temp_auto_file. Does this get deleted

as well?

 

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:OamUEYCBJHA.1980@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> No. They should have NO association. In regedit, find

HKEY_Classes_Root\.tmp

> (not the leading period)and delete it.

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://grystmill.com

>

> "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

> news:%23lzssJBBJHA.4368@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> > Just curious. Are TMP files opened by wordpad.exe by default?

> > --

> > { : [|]=( DaffyD®

> >

> > If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

> >

> >

>

>

Guest DaffyD®
Posted

Re: Temp Files

 

That is what I found in File Types and I never assigned a default program to

open .tmp files.

 

"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

news:%23dbzBYCBJHA.5964@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> I seriously doubt it. In fact, I'd be surprised if they're opened by

> anything by default.

>

> DaffyD® wrote:

> > Just curious. Are TMP files opened by wordpad.exe by default?

> > --

> > { : [|]=( DaffyD®

> >

> > If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

>

>

Guest DaffyD®
Posted

Re: Temp Files

 

The "open" default program on my system is C:\PROGRA~1\ACCESS~1\WORDPAD.EXE

"%1"

 

"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

news:%23dbzBYCBJHA.5964@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> I seriously doubt it. In fact, I'd be surprised if they're opened by

> anything by default.

>

> DaffyD® wrote:

> > Just curious. Are TMP files opened by wordpad.exe by default?

> > --

> > { : [|]=( DaffyD®

> >

> > If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

>

>

Guest DaffyD®
Posted

Re: Temp Files

 

Why would you like an OS "where users do it themselves and can destroy

themselves and the os in the process if they are too dumb or not careful

enough"? It seems that an OS where the neophtye is locked out of making

system changes would be preferable.

 

"Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:CDAFDFFE-A26D-45D1-B06F-2CDF39933BDC@microsoft.com...

> That is what I like about 98 Second Edition, Bill in Co. --- users do it

> themselves and can destroy themselves and the os in the process if they

are

> too dumb or not careful enough. I also like Gary's attitude towards

TweakUI

> that he does not use it because he does it all manually himself from

another

> 98 general posting. This is the best way to be, I feel but I know that I

am

> not at that level of expertise yet. I still do not have the Windows 98

> Scripting Host installed. I do not want scripts automatically written

that

> could destroy my 98 Second Edition. <grin>

>

> In addition, I have now turned off automatic updates within XP

Professional

> Service Pack 3, I know about patch Tuesday the second Tuesday of every

month

> and I check at other times as well just to be safe. The question I am

always

> asking myself of XP Updates is will this break XP, will this fully trash

my

> os, what will this update break if anything, etc.

>

> "Bill in Co." wrote:

>

> > I seriously doubt it. In fact, I'd be surprised if they're opened by

> > anything by default.

> >

> > DaffyD® wrote:

> > > Just curious. Are TMP files opened by wordpad.exe by default?

> > > --

> > > { : [|]=( DaffyD®

> > >

> > > If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

> >

> >

> >

Guest Bill in Co.
Posted

Re: Temp Files

 

Nor should you. (How it got assigned is beyond me)

I just view .tmp files (if desired) in Quick View Plus. Or occasionally

I'll send them to Notepad or Wordpad to take a peek.

 

DaffyD® wrote:

> That is what I found in File Types and I never assigned a default program

> to

> open .tmp files.

>

> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> news:%23dbzBYCBJHA.5964@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> I seriously doubt it. In fact, I'd be surprised if they're opened by

>> anything by default.

>>

>> DaffyD® wrote:

>>> Just curious. Are TMP files opened by wordpad.exe by default?

>>> --

>>> { : [|]=( DaffyD®

>>>

>>> If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

Guest Bill in Co.
Posted

Re: Temp Files

 

I don't think thats the normal default, and I think Gary mentioned the same.

I still think the default was (supposed to be) "no association", and that

maybe you changed it inadvertently. (I guess it doesn't hurt to leave

it, but why?)

 

DaffyD® wrote:

> The "open" default program on my system is

> C:\PROGRA~1\ACCESS~1\WORDPAD.EXE

> "%1"

>

> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> news:%23dbzBYCBJHA.5964@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> I seriously doubt it. In fact, I'd be surprised if they're opened by

>> anything by default.

>>

>> DaffyD® wrote:

>>> Just curious. Are TMP files opened by wordpad.exe by default?

>>> --

>>> { : [|]=( DaffyD®

>>>

>>> If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

Guest Gary S. Terhune
Posted

Re: Temp Files

 

That's not good. Just saving certain TMP files in WordPad can wreck them.

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://grystmill.com

 

"DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

news:OPUsNETBJHA.2056@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> The "open" default program on my system is

> C:\PROGRA~1\ACCESS~1\WORDPAD.EXE

> "%1"

>

> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> news:%23dbzBYCBJHA.5964@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> I seriously doubt it. In fact, I'd be surprised if they're opened by

>> anything by default.

>>

>> DaffyD® wrote:

>> > Just curious. Are TMP files opened by wordpad.exe by default?

>> > --

>> > { : [|]=( DaffyD®

>> >

>> > If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

>>

>>

>

>

Guest Gary S. Terhune
Posted

Re: Temp Files

 

You should delete the entire Key named:

HKEY_Classes_Root\.tmp

 

No more, no less.

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://grystmill.com

 

"DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

news:OGbZ%23%23SBJHA.4724@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>I found the file. The string value is temp_auto_file. Does this get deleted

> as well?

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:OamUEYCBJHA.1980@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> No. They should have NO association. In regedit, find

> HKEY_Classes_Root\.tmp

>> (not the leading period)and delete it.

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://grystmill.com

>>

>> "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

>> news:%23lzssJBBJHA.4368@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> > Just curious. Are TMP files opened by wordpad.exe by default?

>> > --

>> > { : [|]=( DaffyD®

>> >

>> > If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

>> >

>> >

>>

>>

>

>

Posted

Re: Temp Files

 

I like 98SE because I am a fairly good computer user and I see computers as

powerful machines and not toys. I want to be in charge of my machine and I

do not want someone in charge of me while I am connected to a domain and the

case of the hacking in May-October 2007 of the Albuquerque Public School

Network in Albuquerque, New Mexico destroyed XP SP2 fully updated because the

NT source code is not there because it lacks the maintenance operating system

and focuses on external security and not internal safety. In addition, XP

has remote access built in so that anyone with the right hardware, software

and skills can crack without too much trouble if the computer is not properly

configured, updated and protected by the user. This should not have to

always be farmed out to IT thus the importance of general licensing for all

computer users in my opinion. The neophtye that sees a computer as a toy can

just go ahead with Apple for all I care and enjoy them apples until it breaks

or is compromised and then breaks. <grin>

 

"DaffyD®" wrote:

> Why would you like an OS "where users do it themselves and can destroy

> themselves and the os in the process if they are too dumb or not careful

> enough"? It seems that an OS where the neophtye is locked out of making

> system changes would be preferable.

>

> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:CDAFDFFE-A26D-45D1-B06F-2CDF39933BDC@microsoft.com...

> > That is what I like about 98 Second Edition, Bill in Co. --- users do it

> > themselves and can destroy themselves and the os in the process if they

> are

> > too dumb or not careful enough. I also like Gary's attitude towards

> TweakUI

> > that he does not use it because he does it all manually himself from

> another

> > 98 general posting. This is the best way to be, I feel but I know that I

> am

> > not at that level of expertise yet. I still do not have the Windows 98

> > Scripting Host installed. I do not want scripts automatically written

> that

> > could destroy my 98 Second Edition. <grin>

> >

> > In addition, I have now turned off automatic updates within XP

> Professional

> > Service Pack 3, I know about patch Tuesday the second Tuesday of every

> month

> > and I check at other times as well just to be safe. The question I am

> always

> > asking myself of XP Updates is will this break XP, will this fully trash

> my

> > os, what will this update break if anything, etc.

> >

> > "Bill in Co." wrote:

> >

> > > I seriously doubt it. In fact, I'd be surprised if they're opened by

> > > anything by default.

> > >

> > > DaffyD® wrote:

> > > > Just curious. Are TMP files opened by wordpad.exe by default?

> > > > --

> > > > { : [|]=( DaffyD®

> > > >

> > > > If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

> > >

> > >

> > >

>

>

>

Posted

Re: Temp Files

 

DaffyD® wrote:

| I found the file. The string value is temp_auto_file. Does this get

| deleted as well?

 

I think you meant "TMP_auto_file". That's what what I had...

 

HKEY_Classes_Root\.tmp

@="TMP_auto_file"

 

The string is also found in...

 

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\TMP_auto_file]

@="TMP File"

 

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\TMP_auto_file\shell]

 

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\TMP_auto_file\shell\open]

@=""

 

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\TMP_auto_file\shell\open\command]

@="c:\\windows\\NOTEPAD.EXE \"%1\""

 

Mine, you see, opened in Notepad. I probably set that myself-- but I

NEVER would SAVE any .tmp file that didn't look to be pure text after

opening it!

 

ANYHOW, to get rid of it, use the Folder Options remove button-- that

way gets it all! (But I wouldn't willy-nilly remove just anything from

there.)

 

| "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

| news:OamUEYCBJHA.1980@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

|> No. They should have NO association. In regedit, find

|> HKEY_Classes_Root\.tmp (not the leading period)and delete it.

|>

|> --

|> Gary S. Terhune

|> MS-MVP Shell/User

|> http://grystmill.com

|>

|> "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

|> news:%23lzssJBBJHA.4368@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

|> > Just curious. Are TMP files opened by wordpad.exe by default?

|> > --

|> > { : [|]=( DaffyD®

|> >

|> > If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

 

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

Posted

Re: Temp Files

 

On Aug 26, 6:32 pm, "PCR" <pcr...@netzero.net> wrote:

> DaffyD® wrote:

>

> | I found the file. The string value is temp_auto_file. Does this get

> | deleted as well?

>

> I think you meant "TMP_auto_file". That's what what I had...

>

> HKEY_Classes_Root\.tmp

> @="TMP_auto_file"

>

> The string is also found in...

>

> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\TMP_auto_file]

> @="TMP File"

>

> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\TMP_auto_file\shell]

>

> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\TMP_auto_file\shell\open]

> @=""

>

> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\TMP_auto_file\shell\open\command]

> @="c:\\windows\\NOTEPAD.EXE \"%1\""

>

> Mine, you see, opened in Notepad. I probably set that myself-- but I

> NEVER would SAVE any .tmp file that didn't look to be pure text after

> opening it!

>

> ANYHOW, to get rid of it, use the Folder Options remove button-- that

> way gets it all! (But I wouldn't willy-nilly remove just anything from

> there.)

>

> | "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> |news:OamUEYCBJHA.1980@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> |> No. They should have NO association. In regedit, find

> |> HKEY_Classes_Root\.tmp (not the leading period)and delete it.

> |>

> |> --

> |> Gary S. Terhune

> |> MS-MVP Shell/User

> |>http://grystmill.com

> |>|> "DaffyD®" <daf...@woohoo.com> wrote in message

>

> |>news:%23lzssJBBJHA.4368@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> |> > Just curious.  Are TMP files opened by wordpad.exe by default?

> |> > --

> |> > { : [|]=(  DaffyD®

> |> >

> |> > If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

>

> --

> Thanks or Good Luck,

> There may be humor in this post, and,

> Naturally, you will not sue,

> Should things get worse after this,

> PCR

> pcr...@netzero.net

 

Not necessarily PCR, just because you have it doesn't mean Daffy's

gots the same disease. But you are 100% right when you said that you

probably set that association yourself - which is my whole point to

this post.

 

All such "_auto_" entries in the registry were put there manually by

the nut behind the steering wheel so to speak. It gets done that way

when you use the Open With gizmo and check the "use this program

always" box. It's also the same way in which Windows can be tweaked

to provid for custom programs that need their associations to fire up

first. Apparently the underline character is first in line ahead of a

standard alpha character such that "jpg_auto_file" gets acted upon

before the standard "jpgfile" does just for an example. Yet the

original entry remains intact in the registry and a bit good

housecleaning can get one back to where things once were without too

much heartache. It's a pretty good system considering, except when

DaffyD forgets that he is the one that did it to himself - somehow.

Posted

Re: Temp Files

 

Lee wrote:

| On Aug 26, 6:32 pm, "PCR" <pcr...@netzero.net> wrote:

|> DaffyD® wrote:

|>

|> | I found the file. The string value is temp_auto_file. Does this get

|> | deleted as well?

|>

|> I think you meant "TMP_auto_file". That's what what I had...

|>

|> HKEY_Classes_Root\.tmp

|> @="TMP_auto_file"

|>

|> The string is also found in...

|>

|> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\TMP_auto_file]

|> @="TMP File"

|>

|> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\TMP_auto_file\shell]

|>

|> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\TMP_auto_file\shell\open]

|> @=""

|>

|> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\TMP_auto_file\shell\open\command]

|> @="c:\\windows\\NOTEPAD.EXE \"%1\""

|>

|> Mine, you see, opened in Notepad. I probably set that myself-- but I

|> NEVER would SAVE any .tmp file that didn't look to be pure text after

|> opening it!

|>

|> ANYHOW, to get rid of it, use the Folder Options remove button-- that

|> way gets it all! (But I wouldn't willy-nilly remove just anything

|> from there.)

|>

|> | "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

|> |news:OamUEYCBJHA.1980@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

|> |> No. They should have NO association. In regedit, find

|> |> HKEY_Classes_Root\.tmp (not the leading period)and delete it.

|> |>

|> |> --

|> |> Gary S. Terhune

|> |> MS-MVP Shell/User

|> |>http://grystmill.com

|> |>|> "DaffyD®" <daf...@woohoo.com> wrote in message

|>

|> |>news:%23lzssJBBJHA.4368@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

|> |> > Just curious. Are TMP files opened by wordpad.exe by default?

|> |> > --

|> |> > { : [|]=( DaffyD®

|> |> >

|> |> > If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

|>

|> --

|> Thanks or Good Luck,

|> There may be humor in this post, and,

|> Naturally, you will not sue,

|> Should things get worse after this,

|> PCR

|> pcr...@netzero.net

|

| Not necessarily PCR, just because you have it doesn't mean Daffy's

| gots the same disease.

 

Not necessarily what? Do you think his could have been "TEMP" instead of

"TMP"?

 

| But you are 100% right when you said that you

| probably set that association yourself - which is my whole point to

| this post.

|

| All such "_auto_" entries in the registry were put there manually by

| the nut behind the steering wheel so to speak. It gets done that way

| when you use the Open With gizmo and check the "use this program

| always" box.

 

Yea, likely I did that. It messes nothing up in/of itself (I don't

think), but only determines what will open a .tmp file when one clicks

it oneself. Applications other than Notepad/Wordpad STILL will function

fine when they need to access that file type. HOWEVER, one NEVER should

SAVE the opened file-- that COULD mess the file up if it is other than

plain & unformatted text! Wordpad & some Notepad substitutes may put

formatting characters into the saved file!

 

| It's also the same way in which Windows can be tweaked

| to provid for custom programs that need their associations to fire up

| first.

 

If you use the Folder Options, File Types, Edit, requestor(s) to change

applications to perform the Actions-- it only will change what happens

when one clicks a file of that file type or extension. Also, it can

change what will happen when one R-Clks that file type & selects one one

of those options, if there are Actions for that. That's what I call a

complex one-- one that has multiple R-Clk possibilities like Print &

Edit.

 

I don't think the complex ones are a good candidate to use that "Always

use this program to open this type of file" option of "Open with..." on.

However, maybe it won't upset the other actions (I don't really know).

You can get "Open with..." back, you know, by holding shift while

R-Clking a file of a type that already has been set once. The other

thing I worry about is that "Always use..." wouldn't get the switches

right if it is other than "%1", like in...

c:\windows\NOTEPAD.EXE "%1"

 

| Apparently the underline character is first in line ahead of a

| standard alpha character such that "jpg_auto_file" gets acted upon

| before the standard "jpgfile" does just for an example. Yet the

| original entry remains intact in the registry and a bit good

| housecleaning can get one back to where things once were without too

| much heartache. It's a pretty good system considering, except when

| DaffyD forgets that he is the one that did it to himself - somehow.

 

..JPG, .JPEG, .JPE, .JFIF seems to be complex in a different way(s)-- it

makes use of DDE, it has multiple file types, & it has TWO registered

file types in Folder Options, File Types tab. They both are named JPEG

Image-- none of the two is named JPG File.

 

If one did an "Open with..." on one of those file types, one would get,

for instance, a "JPG File" listed in "Registered file types" window.

Probably that would give both keys...

 

HKEY_Classes_Root\.JPG

HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\JPG_auto_file

 

....& removing "JPG File" would likely get rid of just those keys & leave

the "JPEG Image" keys intact. I'm not overly worried about that!

 

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

Guest DaffyD®
Posted

Re: Temp Files

 

Thanks, Gary.

 

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:%230v0rNXBJHA.4340@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> You should delete the entire Key named:

> HKEY_Classes_Root\.tmp

>

> No more, no less.

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://grystmill.com

>

> "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

> news:OGbZ%23%23SBJHA.4724@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> >I found the file. The string value is temp_auto_file. Does this get

deleted

> > as well?

> >

> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> > news:OamUEYCBJHA.1980@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> >> No. They should have NO association. In regedit, find

> > HKEY_Classes_Root\.tmp

> >> (not the leading period)and delete it.

> >>

> >> --

> >> Gary S. Terhune

> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> >> http://grystmill.com

> >>

> >> "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

> >> news:%23lzssJBBJHA.4368@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> >> > Just curious. Are TMP files opened by wordpad.exe by default?

> >> > --

> >> > { : [|]=( DaffyD®

> >> >

> >> > If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

> >> >

> >> >

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

>

>

Guest DaffyD®
Posted

Re: Temp Files

 

I never do anything willy nilly, PCR, maybe wooly bully but not willy

nilly...

 

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

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> DaffyD® wrote:

> | I found the file. The string value is temp_auto_file. Does this get

> | deleted as well?

>

> I think you meant "TMP_auto_file". That's what what I had...

>

> HKEY_Classes_Root\.tmp

> @="TMP_auto_file"

>

> The string is also found in...

>

> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\TMP_auto_file]

> @="TMP File"

>

> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\TMP_auto_file\shell]

>

> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\TMP_auto_file\shell\open]

> @=""

>

> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\TMP_auto_file\shell\open\command]

> @="c:\\windows\\NOTEPAD.EXE \"%1\""

>

> Mine, you see, opened in Notepad. I probably set that myself-- but I

> NEVER would SAVE any .tmp file that didn't look to be pure text after

> opening it!

>

> ANYHOW, to get rid of it, use the Folder Options remove button-- that

> way gets it all! (But I wouldn't willy-nilly remove just anything from

> there.)

>

> | "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> | news:OamUEYCBJHA.1980@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> |> No. They should have NO association. In regedit, find

> |> HKEY_Classes_Root\.tmp (not the leading period)and delete it.

> |>

> |> --

> |> Gary S. Terhune

> |> MS-MVP Shell/User

> |> http://grystmill.com

> |>

> |> "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

> |> news:%23lzssJBBJHA.4368@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> |> > Just curious. Are TMP files opened by wordpad.exe by default?

> |> > --

> |> > { : [|]=( DaffyD®

> |> >

> |> > If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

>

> --

> Thanks or Good Luck,

> There may be humor in this post, and,

> Naturally, you will not sue,

> Should things get worse after this,

> PCR

> pcrrcp@netzero.net

>

>

Guest DaffyD®
Posted

Re: Temp Files

 

 

"Lee" <melee5@my-deja.com> wrote in message

news:4bb2aacb-c936-464e-8daa-e604efa56101@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...

On Aug 26, 6:32 pm, "PCR" <pcr...@netzero.net> wrote:

> DaffyD® wrote:

>

> | I found the file. The string value is temp_auto_file. Does this get

> | deleted as well?

>

> I think you meant "TMP_auto_file". That's what what I had...

>

> HKEY_Classes_Root\.tmp

> @="TMP_auto_file"

>

> The string is also found in...

>

> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\TMP_auto_file]

> @="TMP File"

>

> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\TMP_auto_file\shell]

>

> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\TMP_auto_file\shell\open]

> @=""

>

> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\TMP_auto_file\shell\open\command]

> @="c:\\windows\\NOTEPAD.EXE \"%1\""

>

> Mine, you see, opened in Notepad. I probably set that myself-- but I

> NEVER would SAVE any .tmp file that didn't look to be pure text after

> opening it!

>

> ANYHOW, to get rid of it, use the Folder Options remove button-- that

> way gets it all! (But I wouldn't willy-nilly remove just anything from

> there.)

>

> | "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> |news:OamUEYCBJHA.1980@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> |> No. They should have NO association. In regedit, find

> |> HKEY_Classes_Root\.tmp (not the leading period)and delete it.

> |>

> |> --

> |> Gary S. Terhune

> |> MS-MVP Shell/User

> |>http://grystmill.com

> |>|> "DaffyD®" <daf...@woohoo.com> wrote in message

>

> |>news:%23lzssJBBJHA.4368@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> |> > Just curious. Are TMP files opened by wordpad.exe by default?

> |> > --

> |> > { : [|]=( DaffyD®

> |> >

> |> > If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

>

> --

> Thanks or Good Luck,

> There may be humor in this post, and,

> Naturally, you will not sue,

> Should things get worse after this,

> PCR

> pcr...@netzero.net

 

Not necessarily PCR, just because you have it doesn't mean Daffy's

gots the same disease. But you are 100% right when you said that you

probably set that association yourself - which is my whole point to

this post.

 

All such "_auto_" entries in the registry were put there manually by

the nut behind the steering wheel so to speak. It gets done that way

when you use the Open With gizmo and check the "use this program

always" box. It's also the same way in which Windows can be tweaked

to provid for custom programs that need their associations to fire up

first. Apparently the underline character is first in line ahead of a

standard alpha character such that "jpg_auto_file" gets acted upon

before the standard "jpgfile" does just for an example. Yet the

original entry remains intact in the registry and a bit good

housecleaning can get one back to where things once were without too

much heartache. It's a pretty good system considering, except when

DaffyD forgets that he is the one that did it to himself - somehow.

 

I probably did, but it may have been so long ago I can deny that it ever

happened.

Guest DaffyD®
Posted

Re: Temp Files

 

 

"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

news:OT3SpuVBJHA.5316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> I don't think thats the normal default, and I think Gary mentioned the

same.

> I still think the default was (supposed to be) "no association", and that

> maybe you changed it inadvertently. (I guess it doesn't hurt to leave

> it, but why?)

 

I might have changed it but I can't remember doing this recently and this is

something that I've just noticed. I know that it really isn't a big deal but

when I see a change like this I like to put things back to default.

>

> DaffyD® wrote:

> > The "open" default program on my system is

> > C:\PROGRA~1\ACCESS~1\WORDPAD.EXE

> > "%1"

> >

> > "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> > news:%23dbzBYCBJHA.5964@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> >> I seriously doubt it. In fact, I'd be surprised if they're opened by

> >> anything by default.

> >>

> >> DaffyD® wrote:

> >>> Just curious. Are TMP files opened by wordpad.exe by default?

> >>> --

> >>> { : [|]=( DaffyD®

> >>>

> >>> If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

>

>

Guest DaffyD®
Posted

Re: Temp Files

 

I've always enjoyed 98SE for it's user friendly interface. I do know my way

around a computer, but it's these little irritants like file associations

changing that get to me. I'm actually seriously considering upgrading to

another OS because so many newer programs/hardware and web content thatwon't

work with 98SE.

 

 

"Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:46C89DF5-CA38-4C2A-B980-7253A172A2C7@microsoft.com...

> I like 98SE because I am a fairly good computer user and I see computers

as

> powerful machines and not toys. I want to be in charge of my machine and

I

> do not want someone in charge of me while I am connected to a domain and

the

> case of the hacking in May-October 2007 of the Albuquerque Public School

> Network in Albuquerque, New Mexico destroyed XP SP2 fully updated because

the

> NT source code is not there because it lacks the maintenance operating

system

> and focuses on external security and not internal safety. In addition, XP

> has remote access built in so that anyone with the right hardware,

software

> and skills can crack without too much trouble if the computer is not

properly

> configured, updated and protected by the user. This should not have to

> always be farmed out to IT thus the importance of general licensing for

all

> computer users in my opinion. The neophtye that sees a computer as a toy

can

> just go ahead with Apple for all I care and enjoy them apples until it

breaks

> or is compromised and then breaks. <grin>

>

> "DaffyD®" wrote:

>

> > Why would you like an OS "where users do it themselves and can destroy

> > themselves and the os in the process if they are too dumb or not careful

> > enough"? It seems that an OS where the neophtye is locked out of making

> > system changes would be preferable.

> >

> > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > news:CDAFDFFE-A26D-45D1-B06F-2CDF39933BDC@microsoft.com...

> > > That is what I like about 98 Second Edition, Bill in Co. --- users do

it

> > > themselves and can destroy themselves and the os in the process if

they

> > are

> > > too dumb or not careful enough. I also like Gary's attitude towards

> > TweakUI

> > > that he does not use it because he does it all manually himself from

> > another

> > > 98 general posting. This is the best way to be, I feel but I know

that I

> > am

> > > not at that level of expertise yet. I still do not have the Windows

98

> > > Scripting Host installed. I do not want scripts automatically written

> > that

> > > could destroy my 98 Second Edition. <grin>

> > >

> > > In addition, I have now turned off automatic updates within XP

> > Professional

> > > Service Pack 3, I know about patch Tuesday the second Tuesday of every

> > month

> > > and I check at other times as well just to be safe. The question I am

> > always

> > > asking myself of XP Updates is will this break XP, will this fully

trash

> > my

> > > os, what will this update break if anything, etc.

> > >

> > > "Bill in Co." wrote:

> > >

> > > > I seriously doubt it. In fact, I'd be surprised if they're opened

by

> > > > anything by default.

> > > >

> > > > DaffyD® wrote:

> > > > > Just curious. Are TMP files opened by wordpad.exe by default?

> > > > > --

> > > > > { : [|]=( DaffyD®

> > > > >

> > > > > If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> >

> >

> >

Posted

Re: Temp Files

 

DaffyD® wrote:

| I never do anything willy nilly, PCR, maybe wooly bully but not willy

| nilly...

 

That's OK, then. Wooly Bully doesn't have enough L's to be much trouble.

I'm just worried, if you remove a complex one in the Folder Options,

Files Types, Registered file types list... it may not be so easy to get

it back. You'd possibly have to reinstall something. The one's in there

that have "File" in their name, like "TMP File" very likely were added

by us, using "Open with...". Also, they will look like Terhune & Lee

said in the Registry... "(Filetype)_auto_file". All of the Registry

entries for it get deleted by using Folder Options to remove the entry.

Good to see you back, DaffyD®.

 

| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

| news:uxnqqx9BJHA.1628@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

|> DaffyD® wrote:

|> | I found the file. The string value is temp_auto_file. Does this get

|> | deleted as well?

|>

|> I think you meant "TMP_auto_file". That's what what I had...

|>

|> HKEY_Classes_Root\.tmp

|> @="TMP_auto_file"

|>

|> The string is also found in...

|>

|> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\TMP_auto_file]

|> @="TMP File"

|>

|> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\TMP_auto_file\shell]

|>

|> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\TMP_auto_file\shell\open]

|> @=""

|>

|> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\TMP_auto_file\shell\open\command]

|> @="c:\\windows\\NOTEPAD.EXE \"%1\""

|>

|> Mine, you see, opened in Notepad. I probably set that myself-- but I

|> NEVER would SAVE any .tmp file that didn't look to be pure text after

|> opening it!

|>

|> ANYHOW, to get rid of it, use the Folder Options remove button-- that

|> way gets it all! (But I wouldn't willy-nilly remove just anything

|> from there.)

|>

|> | "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

|> | news:OamUEYCBJHA.1980@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

|> |> No. They should have NO association. In regedit, find

|> |> HKEY_Classes_Root\.tmp (not the leading period)and delete it.

|> |>

|> |> --

|> |> Gary S. Terhune

|> |> MS-MVP Shell/User

|> |> http://grystmill.com

|> |>

|> |> "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

|> |> news:%23lzssJBBJHA.4368@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

|> |> > Just curious. Are TMP files opened by wordpad.exe by default?

|> |> > --

|> |> > { : [|]=( DaffyD®

|> |> >

|> |> > If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

|>

|> --

|> Thanks or Good Luck,

|> There may be humor in this post, and,

|> Naturally, you will not sue,

|> Should things get worse after this,

|> PCR

|> pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

Guest J. P. Gilliver (John)
Posted

File associations (was: Re: Temp Files)

 

File associations (was: Re: Temp Files)

 

In message <O8elIkjCJHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, DaffyD®

<daffyd@woohoo.com> writes

[]

>All such "_auto_" entries in the registry were put there manually by

>the nut behind the steering wheel so to speak. It gets done that way

>when you use the Open With gizmo and check the "use this program

>always" box. It's also the same way in which Windows can be tweaked

[]

A long time ago, I saw instruction (may or may not have been here) on

how to make that tickbox _off_ by default, rather than on. If I'm

opening something that way, either because I want to use notepad (say)

to examine something other than a .txt file or I'm trying (e. g.

notepad) on a "new" filetype, I don't necessarily want to make the

association permanent, which is all too easy to do in the default

situation.

 

[Needless to say I can't remember how to do it, but someone'll be along

in a minute ... (-:]

--

J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL(+++)IS-P--Ch+(p)Ar+T[?]H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for thoughts on PCs. **

 

"We'd agreed to overlook each others' families and everything, and get married"

(The Trouble with Harry)

** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

Posted

Re: Temp Files

 

I understand and it has been hopeless making Microsoft try and see that a new

Windows 98 Second Edition would be in the best consumer interests and not one

that removed so much stuff like Windows ME. For example, Windows ME removed

easy access to MS-DOS and broke some compatibility with older software that

ran fine on Windows 98 Second Edition. System Restore on Windows ME really

seemed to be trying to lay the groundwork for one source code and the tying

of the knot between Windows NT and Windows 9x which worked okay in Windows XP

but it is still easier to hack a fully updated Windows XP then a fully

updated and protected Windows 98 Second Edition at least when connected to a

domain through VPN. This can be seen at the website secunia.com and

researching the vulnerabilites on the two programs and also compare Firefox

and Internet Explorer. Opera does not currently seem to have any

vulnerabilities but if it gets the market share of Mozilla Firefox then I

would seriously guess that hackers would find a way into the Opera Web

Browser.

 

"DaffyD®" wrote:

> I've always enjoyed 98SE for it's user friendly interface. I do know my way

> around a computer, but it's these little irritants like file associations

> changing that get to me. I'm actually seriously considering upgrading to

> another OS because so many newer programs/hardware and web content thatwon't

> work with 98SE.

>

>

> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:46C89DF5-CA38-4C2A-B980-7253A172A2C7@microsoft.com...

> > I like 98SE because I am a fairly good computer user and I see computers

> as

> > powerful machines and not toys. I want to be in charge of my machine and

> I

> > do not want someone in charge of me while I am connected to a domain and

> the

> > case of the hacking in May-October 2007 of the Albuquerque Public School

> > Network in Albuquerque, New Mexico destroyed XP SP2 fully updated because

> the

> > NT source code is not there because it lacks the maintenance operating

> system

> > and focuses on external security and not internal safety. In addition, XP

> > has remote access built in so that anyone with the right hardware,

> software

> > and skills can crack without too much trouble if the computer is not

> properly

> > configured, updated and protected by the user. This should not have to

> > always be farmed out to IT thus the importance of general licensing for

> all

> > computer users in my opinion. The neophtye that sees a computer as a toy

> can

> > just go ahead with Apple for all I care and enjoy them apples until it

> breaks

> > or is compromised and then breaks. <grin>

> >

> > "DaffyD®" wrote:

> >

> > > Why would you like an OS "where users do it themselves and can destroy

> > > themselves and the os in the process if they are too dumb or not careful

> > > enough"? It seems that an OS where the neophtye is locked out of making

> > > system changes would be preferable.

> > >

> > > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > > news:CDAFDFFE-A26D-45D1-B06F-2CDF39933BDC@microsoft.com...

> > > > That is what I like about 98 Second Edition, Bill in Co. --- users do

> it

> > > > themselves and can destroy themselves and the os in the process if

> they

> > > are

> > > > too dumb or not careful enough. I also like Gary's attitude towards

> > > TweakUI

> > > > that he does not use it because he does it all manually himself from

> > > another

> > > > 98 general posting. This is the best way to be, I feel but I know

> that I

> > > am

> > > > not at that level of expertise yet. I still do not have the Windows

> 98

> > > > Scripting Host installed. I do not want scripts automatically written

> > > that

> > > > could destroy my 98 Second Edition. <grin>

> > > >

> > > > In addition, I have now turned off automatic updates within XP

> > > Professional

> > > > Service Pack 3, I know about patch Tuesday the second Tuesday of every

> > > month

> > > > and I check at other times as well just to be safe. The question I am

> > > always

> > > > asking myself of XP Updates is will this break XP, will this fully

> trash

> > > my

> > > > os, what will this update break if anything, etc.

> > > >

> > > > "Bill in Co." wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > I seriously doubt it. In fact, I'd be surprised if they're opened

> by

> > > > > anything by default.

> > > > >

> > > > > DaffyD® wrote:

> > > > > > Just curious. Are TMP files opened by wordpad.exe by default?

> > > > > > --

> > > > > > { : [|]=( DaffyD®

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

>

>

>

>

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