Guest Mart Posted August 25, 2008 Posted August 25, 2008 Re: What is wrong with WinME? Hi Shane, with reference to your comments (and miles OT), re the Linux family, I had previously never really felt the need to dabble until both you and (I think) Alias 'publicised' Ubunto (in particular) some time last year which resulted in my bad experience. However, I have since taken the occasional look at some of the various Linux sites - but not in any great depth. I did also try OpenOffice (for Windows) and found it reasonably close to MS Office to be of very good value for money. However (and there's nearly always a however in my posts) the major thing that puts me off Linux is the vast number of sub-families (Linux, Red Hat, Ubunto, SUSE, SLED, ad infinitum, not to mention a whole menagerie of species) and their subsequent issue numbers. Now I can just about get my head around the concept of the MS DOS, 3.xx, Win9x series and then XP and now Vista but just can't see in which direction Linux is going - or more particularly, which family/version/issue is the best for me. Even Wikipedia leaves me bemused. And, why so many 'new releases'? Are these the equivalent of MS WU's or SP's? > ... have lists of bugs in the 'latest release' that > run into thousands). Hmm .. I suppose that might explain it then. Not a very good selling point. These days, I just want an operating system that works (for me and my computing friends) - and currently MS fulfil that requirement - I don't want to have to re-learn a whole new method of running a word processor or checking my bank account, or have to re-write reports in a different format because nobody else's OS can read them. I'm used to the Windows way, it works for me (without too much discomfort) though why Works and Office don't talk to each other is beyond my ken. To have to start worrying whether I should have installed Samba or Zimbrain, or version 8.04 LTS or version 3.079. I don't think I'm a Luddite.but it just seems too much for my brain to handle. My head hurts! Never did do the acid test and probably far to old and sensible by now but then I don't remember too much of the 60's either. I'm off to lie down in a darkened room. Mart "Pogle S. Wood" <wood.pogle@googlemail.com> wrote in message news:%23BD45NfBJHA.3396@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Mart wrote: >> Regarding mulibooting, I've never ventured in that direction (except >> for a bad experience with Ubuntu) - although I did once try (not too >> successfully) to run VM on XP Home. (Its incompatible!). Nor do I >> have SATA/RAID, so can't really comment on those aspects. > > I don't recall how widely I publicised this before but over the years I've > been periodically trialing Linux distros, culminating in last summer when > I > ran something like 8 simultaneously. I have concluded that the only one > that > seriously challenges Windows is SUSE/openSUSE. Yet it too had too many > errors or too serious a bug and I deleted 10.3. This May's openSUSE 11.0 > was > a great improvement - but it is still hampered by the boot > management/partition management that they all are. I just deleted it last > weekend. Because I'm sick of it insisting a Primary partition is an > Extended, Logical partition - and changing it to such if you don't stop > it - > and proposing - entirely unnecessarily - to resize an actual Logical > partition that whether FAT32 or NTFS, is in use and I have already set up > where and how large I want and do not want resized! And if you allow it to > auto-install, it *will* resize that partition without consulting you. > Because like a true Linux type it knows best and cannot even comprehend > that, well, just *maybe* it does not? > > Even this, the best of the distros is a pita to install - or to restore > from > a backup - to a multiboot system to co-exist with Windows. Microsoft > systems > are good at this; Linux is awful at it - yet the vast army of Linux > apologists think Windows is the problem. > > Anyway - if you want to try Linux again, try openSUSE. Possibly it is > better > for being produced these days by Novell, who as we know have been in the > business a long time and not as amateurs. They are derided for the deal > made > with MS - possibly rightly so. But the problem with the Linux apologists > is > what matters to them is drowning out criticism. > > Debian and it's derivatives (notably *buntu) are the worse at installing > on > a multiboot system. Fedora and Mandriva are lots better, but Mandriva > still > has too many bugs though certainly no more than *buntu (all the distros > have > lists of bugs in the 'latest release' that run into thousands). > > *buntu and Fedora limit far too much what you can do; Fedora because it is > derived from a server system (Red Hat) and *buntu because it is aimed at > the > inexpert user, so they are no good for a 'power user' - in the same way > that > XP Pro is more suited than XP Home. > >> >>> btw Mart, I feel this is a legitimate offshoot of the original >>> thread, >> >> Perhaps Shane, perhaps not. My view was even with the first of only >> three posts by the OP in this thread, LM had come in 'rant' rather >> than 'reason' mode. And judging by the amount of flack he's left >> behind him, I was probably right. (Seems he's doing similar things in >> the Win98 groups) > > Oh, really. > > Well, I do feel such ill-informed diatribes need to be corrected for the > sake of others who have heard something like it and would possibly take it > as the reinforcement that finally tips their scales. > >> I guess your final paragraph sums it all up. Even your expression >> 'Common Sense' was applied in a not too dissimilar context elsewhere. > > I'm well used to the notion of 'Common Sense' being more of an effort > to defend long-held misconceptions than to arrive at any sort of truth. It > is something of a hobbyhorse. Probably began when reading Quantum Physics > and dropping acid. > > P. > > > >
Guest Pogle S. Wood Posted August 25, 2008 Posted August 25, 2008 Re: What is wrong with WinME? Ha! I'll do more than just skim, tomorrow. Just a couple of comments for now. Mart wrote: > Hi Shane, with reference to your comments (and miles OT), re the Linux > family, I had previously never really felt the need to dabble until > both you and (I think) Alias 'publicised' Ubunto (in particular) some Yes, well, I was 'anti' (and still am!). I'm the one who suggested FDISK /MBR! > bemused. And, why so many 'new releases'? Are these the equivalent > of MS WU's or SP's? Kind of like SPs, yes. Not WU, as they just keep coming every other day or three throughout the life of the build (for most of the main distros there's a new build every 6 months)! > though why Works and Office don't talk to each other is beyond my > ken. Indeed. At least there is a viewer/converter! Very useful when some poor old duffer has used Works Word Processor (when he does have Word!) to save important documents meant to be read on *any* computer! I don't think MS make clear enough that Works is for your own use only, not for anything meant to be shared! Hey, on the subject of modern computers not being any faster because XP (and Vista) is so bloated - I was going to upload a screenshot I took earlier (but it wouldn't go - not like the old days when people used to upload binaries!). I was installing 98SE and Millennium simultaneously in two VPC sessions, while listening to music in WMP10, with Word 2000 open. I wonder if there's anyone around who'd like to argue that you could do that in any 9x version. P.
Guest N. Miller Posted August 26, 2008 Posted August 26, 2008 Re: What is wrong with WinME? On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:35:57 +0100, Mart wrote: > Are these the equivalent of MS WU's or SP's? More like what would happen if everyone, and his brother, had access to the source code for Windows, and created their own variants. What you see is the result of "Open Source", and even you can modify the Linux source code to suit your taste, then compile it. It is probably akin to people building their own computers from components off the shelves of the local electronics emporium, instead of buying Dell, or HP, or IBM, or whatever. -- Norman ~Shine, bright morning light, ~now in the air the spring is coming. ~Sweet, blowing wind, ~singing down the hills and valleys.
Guest webster72n Posted August 26, 2008 Posted August 26, 2008 Re: What is wrong with WinME? What's Shane doing in Amsterdam??? <H>. "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message news:ut2wHktBJHA.3496@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Hi Shane, with reference to your comments (and miles OT), re the Linux > family, I had previously never really felt the need to dabble until both you > and (I think) Alias 'publicised' Ubunto (in particular) some time last year > which resulted in my bad experience. However, I have since taken the > occasional look at some of the various Linux sites - but not in any great > depth. > > I did also try OpenOffice (for Windows) and found it reasonably close to MS > Office to be of very good value for money. However (and there's nearly > always a however in my posts) the major thing that puts me off Linux is the > vast number of sub-families (Linux, Red Hat, Ubunto, SUSE, SLED, ad > infinitum, not to mention a whole menagerie of species) and their subsequent > issue numbers. > > Now I can just about get my head around the concept of the MS DOS, 3.xx, > Win9x series and then XP and now Vista but just can't see in which direction > Linux is going - or more particularly, which family/version/issue is the > best for me. Even Wikipedia leaves me bemused. And, why so many 'new > releases'? Are these the equivalent of MS WU's or SP's? > > > ... have lists of bugs in the 'latest release' that > > run into thousands). > > Hmm .. I suppose that might explain it then. Not a very good selling point. > > These days, I just want an operating system that works (for me and my > computing friends) - and currently MS fulfil that requirement - I don't want > to have to re-learn a whole new method of running a word processor or > checking my bank account, or have to re-write reports in a different format > because nobody else's OS can read them. I'm used to the Windows way, it > works for me (without too much discomfort) though why Works and Office don't > talk to each other is beyond my ken. To have to start worrying whether I > should have installed Samba or Zimbrain, or version 8.04 LTS or version > 3.079. I don't think I'm a Luddite.but it just seems too much for my brain > to handle. My head hurts! Never did do the acid test and probably far to old > and sensible by now but then I don't remember too much of the 60's either. > I'm off to lie down in a darkened room. > > Mart > > > > "Pogle S. Wood" <wood.pogle@googlemail.com> wrote in message > news:%23BD45NfBJHA.3396@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > Mart wrote: > >> Regarding mulibooting, I've never ventured in that direction (except > >> for a bad experience with Ubuntu) - although I did once try (not too > >> successfully) to run VM on XP Home. (Its incompatible!). Nor do I > >> have SATA/RAID, so can't really comment on those aspects. > > > > I don't recall how widely I publicised this before but over the years I've > > been periodically trialing Linux distros, culminating in last summer when > > I > > ran something like 8 simultaneously. I have concluded that the only one > > that > > seriously challenges Windows is SUSE/openSUSE. Yet it too had too many > > errors or too serious a bug and I deleted 10.3. This May's openSUSE 11.0 > > was > > a great improvement - but it is still hampered by the boot > > management/partition management that they all are. I just deleted it last > > weekend. Because I'm sick of it insisting a Primary partition is an > > Extended, Logical partition - and changing it to such if you don't stop > > it - > > and proposing - entirely unnecessarily - to resize an actual Logical > > partition that whether FAT32 or NTFS, is in use and I have already set up > > where and how large I want and do not want resized! And if you allow it to > > auto-install, it *will* resize that partition without consulting you. > > Because like a true Linux type it knows best and cannot even comprehend > > that, well, just *maybe* it does not? > > > > Even this, the best of the distros is a pita to install - or to restore > > from > > a backup - to a multiboot system to co-exist with Windows. Microsoft > > systems > > are good at this; Linux is awful at it - yet the vast army of Linux > > apologists think Windows is the problem. > > > > Anyway - if you want to try Linux again, try openSUSE. Possibly it is > > better > > for being produced these days by Novell, who as we know have been in the > > business a long time and not as amateurs. They are derided for the deal > > made > > with MS - possibly rightly so. But the problem with the Linux apologists > > is > > what matters to them is drowning out criticism. > > > > Debian and it's derivatives (notably *buntu) are the worse at installing > > on > > a multiboot system. Fedora and Mandriva are lots better, but Mandriva > > still > > has too many bugs though certainly no more than *buntu (all the distros > > have > > lists of bugs in the 'latest release' that run into thousands). > > > > *buntu and Fedora limit far too much what you can do; Fedora because it is > > derived from a server system (Red Hat) and *buntu because it is aimed at > > the > > inexpert user, so they are no good for a 'power user' - in the same way > > that > > XP Pro is more suited than XP Home. > > > >> > >>> btw Mart, I feel this is a legitimate offshoot of the original > >>> thread, > >> > >> Perhaps Shane, perhaps not. My view was even with the first of only > >> three posts by the OP in this thread, LM had come in 'rant' rather > >> than 'reason' mode. And judging by the amount of flack he's left > >> behind him, I was probably right. (Seems he's doing similar things in > >> the Win98 groups) > > > > Oh, really. > > > > Well, I do feel such ill-informed diatribes need to be corrected for the > > sake of others who have heard something like it and would possibly take it > > as the reinforcement that finally tips their scales. > > > >> I guess your final paragraph sums it all up. Even your expression > >> 'Common Sense' was applied in a not too dissimilar context elsewhere. > > > > I'm well used to the notion of 'Common Sense' being more of an effort > > to defend long-held misconceptions than to arrive at any sort of truth. It > > is something of a hobbyhorse. Probably began when reading Quantum Physics > > and dropping acid. > > > > P. > > > > > > > > > >
Guest Mart Posted August 26, 2008 Posted August 26, 2008 Re: What is wrong with WinME? Harry asked :- > What's Shane doing in Amsterdam??? <H>. Picking the tulips. http://www.pogleswood.org/
Guest Joan Archer Posted August 26, 2008 Posted August 26, 2008 Re: What is wrong with WinME? ROFL -- Joan Archer http://www.freewebs.com/crossstitcher http://lachsoft.com/photogallery "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message news:#tCnv40BJHA.4932@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Harry asked :- > >> What's Shane doing in Amsterdam??? <H>. > > Picking the tulips. > http://www.pogleswood.org/ >
Guest Pogle S. Wood Posted August 26, 2008 Posted August 26, 2008 Re: What is wrong with WinME? webster72n wrote: > What's Shane doing in Amsterdam??? <H>. > If he's anything like me he'd come for the coffee. P. > > "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message > news:ut2wHktBJHA.3496@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Hi Shane, with reference to your comments (and miles OT), re the >> Linux family, I had previously never really felt the need to dabble >> until both you and (I think) Alias 'publicised' Ubunto (in >> particular) some time last year which resulted in my bad experience. >> However, I have since taken the occasional look at some of the >> various Linux sites - but not in any great depth. >> >> I did also try OpenOffice (for Windows) and found it reasonably >> close to MS Office to be of very good value for money. However (and >> there's nearly always a however in my posts) the major thing that >> puts me off Linux is the vast number of sub-families (Linux, Red >> Hat, Ubunto, SUSE, SLED, ad infinitum, not to mention a whole >> menagerie of species) and their subsequent issue numbers. >> >> Now I can just about get my head around the concept of the MS DOS, >> 3.xx, Win9x series and then XP and now Vista but just can't see in >> which direction Linux is going - or more particularly, which >> family/version/issue is the best for me. Even Wikipedia leaves me >> bemused. And, why so many 'new releases'? Are these the equivalent >> of MS WU's or SP's? >> >>> ... have lists of bugs in the 'latest release' that >>> run into thousands). >> >> Hmm .. I suppose that might explain it then. Not a very good selling >> point. >> >> These days, I just want an operating system that works (for me and my >> computing friends) - and currently MS fulfil that requirement - I >> don't want to have to re-learn a whole new method of running a word >> processor or checking my bank account, or have to re-write reports >> in a different format because nobody else's OS can read them. I'm >> used to the Windows way, it works for me (without too much >> discomfort) though why Works and Office don't talk to each other is >> beyond my ken. To have to start worrying whether I should have >> installed Samba or Zimbrain, or version 8.04 LTS or version >> 3.079. I don't think I'm a Luddite.but it just seems too much for my >> brain to handle. My head hurts! Never did do the acid test and >> probably far to old and sensible by now but then I don't remember >> too much of the 60's either. I'm off to lie down in a darkened room. >> >> Mart >> >> >> >> "Pogle S. Wood" <wood.pogle@googlemail.com> wrote in message >> news:%23BD45NfBJHA.3396@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> Mart wrote: >>>> Regarding mulibooting, I've never ventured in that direction >>>> (except for a bad experience with Ubuntu) - although I did once >>>> try (not too successfully) to run VM on XP Home. (Its >>>> incompatible!). Nor do I have SATA/RAID, so can't really comment >>>> on those aspects. >>> >>> I don't recall how widely I publicised this before but over the >>> years I've been periodically trialing Linux distros, culminating in >>> last summer when I >>> ran something like 8 simultaneously. I have concluded that the only >>> one that >>> seriously challenges Windows is SUSE/openSUSE. Yet it too had too >>> many errors or too serious a bug and I deleted 10.3. This May's >>> openSUSE 11.0 was >>> a great improvement - but it is still hampered by the boot >>> management/partition management that they all are. I just deleted >>> it last weekend. Because I'm sick of it insisting a Primary >>> partition is an Extended, Logical partition - and changing it to >>> such if you don't stop it - >>> and proposing - entirely unnecessarily - to resize an actual Logical >>> partition that whether FAT32 or NTFS, is in use and I have already >>> set up where and how large I want and do not want resized! And if >>> you allow it to auto-install, it *will* resize that partition >>> without consulting you. Because like a true Linux type it knows >>> best and cannot even comprehend that, well, just *maybe* it does >>> not? >>> >>> Even this, the best of the distros is a pita to install - or to >>> restore from >>> a backup - to a multiboot system to co-exist with Windows. Microsoft >>> systems >>> are good at this; Linux is awful at it - yet the vast army of Linux >>> apologists think Windows is the problem. >>> >>> Anyway - if you want to try Linux again, try openSUSE. Possibly it >>> is better >>> for being produced these days by Novell, who as we know have been >>> in the business a long time and not as amateurs. They are derided >>> for the deal made >>> with MS - possibly rightly so. But the problem with the Linux >>> apologists is >>> what matters to them is drowning out criticism. >>> >>> Debian and it's derivatives (notably *buntu) are the worse at >>> installing on >>> a multiboot system. Fedora and Mandriva are lots better, but >>> Mandriva still >>> has too many bugs though certainly no more than *buntu (all the >>> distros have >>> lists of bugs in the 'latest release' that run into thousands). >>> >>> *buntu and Fedora limit far too much what you can do; Fedora >>> because it is derived from a server system (Red Hat) and *buntu >>> because it is aimed at the >>> inexpert user, so they are no good for a 'power user' - in the same >>> way that >>> XP Pro is more suited than XP Home. >>> >>>> >>>>> btw Mart, I feel this is a legitimate offshoot of the original >>>>> thread, >>>> >>>> Perhaps Shane, perhaps not. My view was even with the first of only >>>> three posts by the OP in this thread, LM had come in 'rant' rather >>>> than 'reason' mode. And judging by the amount of flack he's left >>>> behind him, I was probably right. (Seems he's doing similar things >>>> in the Win98 groups) >>> >>> Oh, really. >>> >>> Well, I do feel such ill-informed diatribes need to be corrected >>> for the sake of others who have heard something like it and would >>> possibly take it as the reinforcement that finally tips their >>> scales. >>> >>>> I guess your final paragraph sums it all up. Even your expression >>>> 'Common Sense' was applied in a not too dissimilar context >>>> elsewhere. >>> >>> I'm well used to the notion of 'Common Sense' being more of an >>> effort to defend long-held misconceptions than to arrive at any >>> sort of truth. It is something of a hobbyhorse. Probably began when >>> reading Quantum Physics and dropping acid. >>> >>> P.
Guest webster72n Posted August 26, 2008 Posted August 26, 2008 Re: What is wrong with WinME? Sounds like an acceptable offer. I take mine with cream for sure and a little sugar, if present. All that's left to do is, making some time...... Meanwhile, Cheers. <H>. "Pogle S. Wood" <wood.pogle@googlemail.com> wrote in message news:eZJz1t5BJHA.2480@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > webster72n wrote: > > What's Shane doing in Amsterdam??? <H>. > > > If he's anything like me he'd come for the coffee. > > P. > > > > > > "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message > > news:ut2wHktBJHA.3496@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > >> Hi Shane, with reference to your comments (and miles OT), re the > >> Linux family, I had previously never really felt the need to dabble > >> until both you and (I think) Alias 'publicised' Ubunto (in > >> particular) some time last year which resulted in my bad experience. > >> However, I have since taken the occasional look at some of the > >> various Linux sites - but not in any great depth. > >> > >> I did also try OpenOffice (for Windows) and found it reasonably > >> close to MS Office to be of very good value for money. However (and > >> there's nearly always a however in my posts) the major thing that > >> puts me off Linux is the vast number of sub-families (Linux, Red > >> Hat, Ubunto, SUSE, SLED, ad infinitum, not to mention a whole > >> menagerie of species) and their subsequent issue numbers. > >> > >> Now I can just about get my head around the concept of the MS DOS, > >> 3.xx, Win9x series and then XP and now Vista but just can't see in > >> which direction Linux is going - or more particularly, which > >> family/version/issue is the best for me. Even Wikipedia leaves me > >> bemused. And, why so many 'new releases'? Are these the equivalent > >> of MS WU's or SP's? > >> > >>> ... have lists of bugs in the 'latest release' that > >>> run into thousands). > >> > >> Hmm .. I suppose that might explain it then. Not a very good selling > >> point. > >> > >> These days, I just want an operating system that works (for me and my > >> computing friends) - and currently MS fulfil that requirement - I > >> don't want to have to re-learn a whole new method of running a word > >> processor or checking my bank account, or have to re-write reports > >> in a different format because nobody else's OS can read them. I'm > >> used to the Windows way, it works for me (without too much > >> discomfort) though why Works and Office don't talk to each other is > >> beyond my ken. To have to start worrying whether I should have > >> installed Samba or Zimbrain, or version 8.04 LTS or version > >> 3.079. I don't think I'm a Luddite.but it just seems too much for my > >> brain to handle. My head hurts! Never did do the acid test and > >> probably far to old and sensible by now but then I don't remember > >> too much of the 60's either. I'm off to lie down in a darkened room. > >> > >> Mart > >> > >> > >> > >> "Pogle S. Wood" <wood.pogle@googlemail.com> wrote in message > >> news:%23BD45NfBJHA.3396@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > >>> Mart wrote: > >>>> Regarding mulibooting, I've never ventured in that direction > >>>> (except for a bad experience with Ubuntu) - although I did once > >>>> try (not too successfully) to run VM on XP Home. (Its > >>>> incompatible!). Nor do I have SATA/RAID, so can't really comment > >>>> on those aspects. > >>> > >>> I don't recall how widely I publicised this before but over the > >>> years I've been periodically trialing Linux distros, culminating in > >>> last summer when I > >>> ran something like 8 simultaneously. I have concluded that the only > >>> one that > >>> seriously challenges Windows is SUSE/openSUSE. Yet it too had too > >>> many errors or too serious a bug and I deleted 10.3. This May's > >>> openSUSE 11.0 was > >>> a great improvement - but it is still hampered by the boot > >>> management/partition management that they all are. I just deleted > >>> it last weekend. Because I'm sick of it insisting a Primary > >>> partition is an Extended, Logical partition - and changing it to > >>> such if you don't stop it - > >>> and proposing - entirely unnecessarily - to resize an actual Logical > >>> partition that whether FAT32 or NTFS, is in use and I have already > >>> set up where and how large I want and do not want resized! And if > >>> you allow it to auto-install, it *will* resize that partition > >>> without consulting you. Because like a true Linux type it knows > >>> best and cannot even comprehend that, well, just *maybe* it does > >>> not? > >>> > >>> Even this, the best of the distros is a pita to install - or to > >>> restore from > >>> a backup - to a multiboot system to co-exist with Windows. Microsoft > >>> systems > >>> are good at this; Linux is awful at it - yet the vast army of Linux > >>> apologists think Windows is the problem. > >>> > >>> Anyway - if you want to try Linux again, try openSUSE. Possibly it > >>> is better > >>> for being produced these days by Novell, who as we know have been > >>> in the business a long time and not as amateurs. They are derided > >>> for the deal made > >>> with MS - possibly rightly so. But the problem with the Linux > >>> apologists is > >>> what matters to them is drowning out criticism. > >>> > >>> Debian and it's derivatives (notably *buntu) are the worse at > >>> installing on > >>> a multiboot system. Fedora and Mandriva are lots better, but > >>> Mandriva still > >>> has too many bugs though certainly no more than *buntu (all the > >>> distros have > >>> lists of bugs in the 'latest release' that run into thousands). > >>> > >>> *buntu and Fedora limit far too much what you can do; Fedora > >>> because it is derived from a server system (Red Hat) and *buntu > >>> because it is aimed at the > >>> inexpert user, so they are no good for a 'power user' - in the same > >>> way that > >>> XP Pro is more suited than XP Home. > >>> > >>>> > >>>>> btw Mart, I feel this is a legitimate offshoot of the original > >>>>> thread, > >>>> > >>>> Perhaps Shane, perhaps not. My view was even with the first of only > >>>> three posts by the OP in this thread, LM had come in 'rant' rather > >>>> than 'reason' mode. And judging by the amount of flack he's left > >>>> behind him, I was probably right. (Seems he's doing similar things > >>>> in the Win98 groups) > >>> > >>> Oh, really. > >>> > >>> Well, I do feel such ill-informed diatribes need to be corrected > >>> for the sake of others who have heard something like it and would > >>> possibly take it as the reinforcement that finally tips their > >>> scales. > >>> > >>>> I guess your final paragraph sums it all up. Even your expression > >>>> 'Common Sense' was applied in a not too dissimilar context > >>>> elsewhere. > >>> > >>> I'm well used to the notion of 'Common Sense' being more of an > >>> effort to defend long-held misconceptions than to arrive at any > >>> sort of truth. It is something of a hobbyhorse. Probably began when > >>> reading Quantum Physics and dropping acid. > >>> > >>> P. > >
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