Guest ManyBeers Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 Without going into the how or why-I have managed to lose most of My C:\windows\system32\dllcache. It was app. 500megs in size and is now about 50 megs. Could i just copy a friends dllcache from his Gateway computer and and restore it to my Sony? Both are laptops My laptop is WindowsXP SP3 his is probably SP1 maybe 2. Definitely not SP3.
Guest ManyBeers Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 RE: Another Quickie ? "ManyBeers" wrote: > Without going into the how or why-I have managed to lose > most of My C:\windows\system32\dllcache. It was app. 500megs in size and is > now > about 50 megs. > > Could i just copy a friends dllcache from his Gateway > computer and and restore it to my Sony? Both are laptops My laptop is > WindowsXP SP3 his is probably SP1 maybe 2. Definitely not SP3. Actually couldn't i just make a copy of every dll in my Windows folder. I just did a search of my Windows folder and it showed 2500+dlls. Couldn't i just copy all of them and make a new dllcache?
Guest David H. Lipman Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 Re: Another Quickie ? From: "ManyBeers" <ManyBeers@discussions.microsoft.com> | Without going into the how or why-I have managed to lose | most of My C:\windows\system32\dllcache. It was app. 500megs in size and is | now | about 50 megs. | Could i just copy a friends dllcache from his Gateway | computer and and restore it to my Sony? Both are laptops My laptop is | WindowsXP SP3 his is probably SP1 maybe 2. Definitely not SP3. If the two OS' don't match Service Pack levels, no. -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
Guest David H. Lipman Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 Re: Another Quickie ? From: "ManyBeers" <ManyBeers@discussions.microsoft.com> | Actually couldn't i just make a copy of every dll in my Windows folder. | I just did a search of my Windows folder and it showed 2500+dlls. Couldn't i | just copy all of them and make a new dllcache? No. -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
Guest ManyBeers Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 Re: Another Quickie ? "David H. Lipman" wrote: > From: "ManyBeers" <ManyBeers@discussions.microsoft.com> > > | Without going into the how or why-I have managed to lose > | most of My C:\windows\system32\dllcache. It was app. 500megs in size and is > | now > | about 50 megs. > > | Could i just copy a friends dllcache from his Gateway > | computer and and restore it to my Sony? Both are laptops My laptop is > | WindowsXP SP3 his is probably SP1 maybe 2. Definitely not SP3. > > If the two OS' don't match Service Pack levels, no. > > -- > Dave > http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html > Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp > > So if i can find a computer with SP 3 on it I could just make a copy of the dllcache on it to cd and use it to replace mine?
Guest Doug W. Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 Re: Another Quickie ? Why don't you just re-install Windows XP SP3 and a new dll cache will be created? Problem solved. - "ManyBeers" <ManyBeers@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:84C29620-3427-495F-8E17-7AA2BC766B80@microsoft.com... > > > "David H. Lipman" wrote: > >> From: "ManyBeers" <ManyBeers@discussions.microsoft.com> >> >> | Without going into the how or why-I have >> managed to lose >> | most of My C:\windows\system32\dllcache. It was app. >> 500megs in size and is >> | now >> | about 50 megs. >> >> | Could i just copy a friends dllcache from >> his Gateway >> | computer and and restore it to my Sony? Both are laptops My >> laptop is >> | WindowsXP SP3 his is probably SP1 maybe 2. Definitely not >> SP3. >> >> If the two OS' don't match Service Pack levels, no. >> >> -- >> Dave >> http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html >> Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp >> >> > So if i can find a computer with SP 3 on it I could just make > a copy of the > dllcache on it to cd and use it to replace mine?
Guest ManyBeers Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 Re: Another Quickie ? "Doug W." wrote: > Why don't you just re-install Windows XP SP3 and a new dll cache > will be created? Problem solved. Is that right. You mean just the Service Pack and not Windows too?
Guest ManyBeers Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 Re: Another Quickie ? "Doug W." wrote: > Why don't you just re-install Windows XP SP3 and a new dll cache > will be created? Problem solved. Actually i think i technically already did that and the new cache is about 50 megs in size. You see my dllcache had been moved to another drive 2 years ago and the cache in C;\windiws\system32\dllcache was virtually empty until i recently installed SP3. So i don't think uninstallingSP3 and reinstalling it will bring back my original(post SP2) 500megs dllcache.
Guest Doug W. Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 Re: Another Quickie ? Yes, all or most dlls relative to Windows will be re-created if Windows is working well enough to install the Service Pack, and I presume that it is. Any OLD dlls are copied to a backup folder in case you want to uninstall XP SP3 which in this case I would not NEVER do once it is installed. Since you seem to have L O S T some of the old dlls, what have you got to lose? If all else fails and XP does not work well or fails entirely, then you may have to re-install Window and all the headaches that process incurs. - Read what the MVP's have to say first before doing anything. Doug W. .. -"ManyBeers" <ManyBeers@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:12276F1E-B5A4-481A-A916-FD5F036AB47E@microsoft.com... > > > "Doug W." wrote: > >> Why don't you just re-install Windows XP SP3 and a new dll >> cache >> will be created? Problem solved. > > Is that right. You mean just the Service Pack and not Windows > too?
Guest Doug W. Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 Re: Another Quickie ? "ManyBeers" <ManyBeers@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:9CF85564-70E7-461B-9B35-607303AD6291@microsoft.com... > > > "Doug W." wrote: > >> Why don't you just re-install Windows XP SP3 and a new dll >> cache >> will be created? Problem solved. > Actually i think i technically already did that and the new > cache is about > 50 megs in size. You see my dllcache had been moved to another > drive 2 years > ago and the cache in > C;\windiws\system32\dllcache was virtually empty until i > recently installed > SP3. > So i don't think uninstallingSP3 and reinstalling it will > bring back my > original(post SP2) 500megs dllcache. - I give up. My current dll cache is slightly over 500 megs after XP SP3 but I have no idea what is was prior to SP3. Do you still have the old dll cache on the other drive?...and why was it moved? -
Guest ManyBeers Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 Re: Another Quickie ? "Doug W." wrote: > > "ManyBeers" <ManyBeers@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in > message > news:9CF85564-70E7-461B-9B35-607303AD6291@microsoft.com... > > > > > > "Doug W." wrote: > > > >> Why don't you just re-install Windows XP SP3 and a new dll > >> cache > >> will be created? Problem solved. > > Actually i think i technically already did that and the new > > cache is about > > 50 megs in size. You see my dllcache had been moved to another > > drive 2 years > > ago and the cache in > > C;\windiws\system32\dllcache was virtually empty until i > > recently installed > > SP3. > > So i don't think uninstallingSP3 and reinstalling it will > > bring back my > > original(post SP2) 500megs dllcache. > - > I give up. My current dll cache is slightly over 500 megs after > XP SP3 but I have no idea what is was prior to SP3. Do you still > have the old dll cache on the other drive?...and why was it > moved? No i don't. I moved it there to make my C:\drive small enough so when I imaged the drive all of it would fit on one dvd. and it did and has been fine all this time. I lost it because I copied it to a cd when I decided to repartition my D:\drive into 2 parts. One part would be a new D:\drive and the other would be left free space for a Linux distro. After burning the dllcache , and drivercache files to a cd I ejected the cd and immediately reinserted it in the drive to make sure everything got copied, which it did, or so I thought. So I went ahead and deleted my old D:\ drive and repartitioned. But the next morning when I went to replace the dllcache and drivercache only the drivercache was recoverable. That's it.
Guest Lem Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 Re: Another Quickie ? ManyBeers wrote: > Without going into the how or why-I have managed to lose > most of My C:\windows\system32\dllcache. It was app. 500megs in size and is > now > about 50 megs. > > Could i just copy a friends dllcache from his Gateway > computer and and restore it to my Sony? Both are laptops My laptop is > WindowsXP SP3 his is probably SP1 maybe 2. Definitely not SP3. Why are you spending time and energy worrying about this? Perhaps a little reading about the use of dllcache is in order: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/222193/en-us -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm
Guest ManyBeers Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 Re: Another Quickie ? "Lem" wrote: > ManyBeers wrote: > > Without going into the how or why-I have managed to lose > > most of My C:\windows\system32\dllcache. It was app. 500megs in size and is > > now > > about 50 megs. > > > > Could i just copy a friends dllcache from his Gateway > > computer and and restore it to my Sony? Both are laptops My laptop is > > WindowsXP SP3 his is probably SP1 maybe 2. Definitely not SP3. > > Why are you spending time and energy worrying about this? Perhaps a > little reading about the use of dllcache is in order: > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/222193/en-us Well i wouldn't mind having my cache back for one thing. From the article you linked to it seems if i were to run sfc\scan.exe it would repopulate the dllcache. Is that correct? I don't know how to run that program and I never have. One thing you should know is i don't have a WindowsXP cd. I have my Sony system recovery cds. Those cannot be used to replace damaged or missing files. At least I don't think they can be used for that. It's probably no big thing, as my computer has been running on it's current install for 5 years and as far as i know it has never had to replace system files. So what is your recommendation Lem? > -- > Lem -- MS-MVP > > To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer > http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm >
Guest John John (MVP) Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 Re: Another Quickie ? Running sfc/purgecache or sfc /scanonce will rebuild the dllcache. If you have your sp3 i386 folder on your hard drive just change the SourcePath location in the registry: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Setup Example: If the I386 directory is at C:\I386, the SourcePath value would be C:\. John ManyBeers wrote: > Without going into the how or why-I have managed to lose > most of My C:\windows\system32\dllcache. It was app. 500megs in size and is > now > about 50 megs. > > Could i just copy a friends dllcache from his Gateway > computer and and restore it to my Sony? Both are laptops My laptop is > WindowsXP SP3 his is probably SP1 maybe 2. Definitely not SP3.
Guest ManyBeers Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 Re: Another Quickie ? John John (MVP) wrote: > Running sfc/purgecache or sfc /scanonce will rebuild the dllcache. If > you have your sp3 i386 folder on your hard drive just change the > SourcePath location in the registry: > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Setup > > Example: > > If the I386 directory is at C:\I386, the SourcePath value would be C:\. > > John > > ManyBeers wrote: > >> Without going into the how or why-I have managed to >> lose most of My C:\windows\system32\dllcache. It was app. 500megs in >> size and is now about 50 megs. >> >> Could i just copy a friends dllcache from his Gateway >> computer and and restore it to my Sony? Both are laptops My laptop is >> WindowsXP SP3 his is probably SP1 maybe 2. Definitely not SP3. Do i need to create a new key? Current contents of key:HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Setup BootDir CDInstall DriverCachePath Installation Sources LogLevel PrivateHash ServicePackCachePath ServicePackSourcePath Incidentally i have 2 i386 folders. One is at C:\Windows\i386 and the other D:\From Windows\ServicePackFiles\i386 (moved by me and location change is noted in the same registry key as above) Thanks.
Guest Doug W. Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 Re: Another Quickie ? "ManyBeers" <markzuffi@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:%23bi4CXfBJHA.4172@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > John John (MVP) wrote: >> Running sfc/purgecache or sfc /scanonce will rebuild the >> dllcache. If you have your sp3 i386 folder on your hard >> drive just change the SourcePath location in the registry: >> >> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Setup >> >> Example: >> >> If the I386 directory is at C:\I386, the SourcePath value >> would be C:\. >> >> John >> >> ManyBeers wrote: >> >>> Without going into the how or why-I have >>> managed to lose most of My C:\windows\system32\dllcache. It >>> was app. 500megs in size and is now about 50 megs. >>> >>> Could i just copy a friends dllcache from his >>> Gateway computer and and restore it to my Sony? Both are >>> laptops My laptop is WindowsXP SP3 his is probably SP1 maybe >>> 2. Definitely not SP3. > > Do i need to create a new key? Current contents of > key:HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Setup > BootDir > CDInstall > DriverCachePath > Installation Sources > LogLevel > PrivateHash > ServicePackCachePath > ServicePackSourcePath > Incidentally i have 2 i386 folders. One is at C:\Windows\i386 > and the other D:\From Windows\ServicePackFiles\i386 (moved by > me and location change > > is noted in the same registry > key > > as above) > Thanks. - Moving these system files around willy nilly has got you into this trouble and if you keep it up, you will eventually screw your system to where Windows won't know how or where to find anything. Just leave things as they are now is my advice. You are going to mix old versions of dlls with new versions and voila...big bad crash...coming your way...guaranteed. Doug W. --
Guest ManyBeers Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 Re: Another Quickie ? > Moving these system files around willy nilly has got you into this > trouble and if you keep it up, you will eventually screw your system to > where Windows won't know how or where to find anything. Just leave > things as they are now is my advice. You are going to mix old versions > of dlls with new versions and voila...big bad crash...coming your > way...guaranteed. > > Doug W. I understand what your saying Doug. I just didn't want to make an image and be copying 650megs of copies. Anyways I do have an image of my system drive on cds so I can always pop it in if there is a failure. I have never had to use my back-up images yet though. Like most people i sometimes just need to futsy around in there from time to time if you get my drift.LOL
Guest John John (MVP) Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 Re: Another Quickie ? ManyBeers wrote: > John John (MVP) wrote: > >> Running sfc/purgecache or sfc /scanonce will rebuild the dllcache. >> If you have your sp3 i386 folder on your hard drive just change the >> SourcePath location in the registry: >> >> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Setup >> >> Example: >> >> If the I386 directory is at C:\I386, the SourcePath value would be C:\. >> >> John >> >> ManyBeers wrote: >> >>> Without going into the how or why-I have managed to >>> lose most of My C:\windows\system32\dllcache. It was app. 500megs in >>> size and is now about 50 megs. >>> >>> Could i just copy a friends dllcache from his Gateway >>> computer and and restore it to my Sony? Both are laptops My laptop is >>> WindowsXP SP3 his is probably SP1 maybe 2. Definitely not SP3. > > > Do i need to create a new key? Current contents of > key:HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Setup > BootDir > CDInstall > DriverCachePath > Installation Sources > LogLevel > PrivateHash > ServicePackCachePath > ServicePackSourcePath > Incidentally i have 2 i386 folders. One is at C:\Windows\i386 > and the other D:\From Windows\ServicePackFiles\i386 (moved by me and > location change > > is noted in the same registry key > > as above) > Thanks. SFC should pick the files from the ServicePackSourcePath, if it asks for the Windows CD then add the SourcePath value. John
Guest ManyBeers Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 Re: Another Quickie ? > SFC should pick the files from the ServicePackSourcePath, if it asks for >the Windows CD then add the SourcePath value. >John Ok. So i just open a command prompt and at the prompt i type sfc /scannow... ....is that right? My prompt opens to C:\documentsandsettings\my name.
Guest Navigator Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 Re: Another Quickie ? On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 22:10:11 -0600, "Doug W." <stand@attention> wrote: >Yes, all or most dlls relative to Windows will be re-created if >Windows is working well enough to install the Service Pack, and >I presume that it is. Any OLD dlls are copied to a backup folder >in case you want to uninstall XP SP3 which in this case I would >not NEVER do once it is installed. You would "not NEVER" do it? That means you WOULD do it.
Guest Doug W. Posted August 25, 2008 Posted August 25, 2008 Re: Another Quickie ? "Navigator" <none@nobody.net> wrote in message news:9gq3b4lhpf7r125rerjvja6oq7bhs8tnuc@4ax.com... > On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 22:10:11 -0600, "Doug W." > <stand@attention> wrote: > >>Yes, all or most dlls relative to Windows will be re-created >>if >>Windows is working well enough to install the Service Pack, >>and >>I presume that it is. Any OLD dlls are copied to a backup >>folder >>in case you want to uninstall XP SP3 which in this case I >>would >>not NEVER do once it is installed. > > You would "not NEVER" do it? That means you WOULD do it. > Yes, I know...it was a typo error for which I immediately sent an errata correction. But, thanks anyway. It pays to proofread so as to avoid dumb errors like dat one. To err is human...to admit it is not. - Cheers... -
Guest John John (MVP) Posted August 25, 2008 Posted August 25, 2008 Re: Another Quickie ? ManyBeers wrote: > > >> SFC should pick the files from the ServicePackSourcePath, if it asks for > > >the Windows CD then add the SourcePath value. > >> John > > > Ok. So i just open a command prompt and at the prompt i type sfc > /scannow... > ...is that right? My prompt opens to C:\documentsandsettings\my name. You can run it from the Start Menu Run box or from the Command Prompt. John > >
Guest Unknown Posted August 25, 2008 Posted August 25, 2008 Re: Another Quickie ? The linguist has returned. "Navigator" <none@nobody.net> wrote in message news:9gq3b4lhpf7r125rerjvja6oq7bhs8tnuc@4ax.com... > On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 22:10:11 -0600, "Doug W." <stand@attention> wrote: > >>Yes, all or most dlls relative to Windows will be re-created if >>Windows is working well enough to install the Service Pack, and >>I presume that it is. Any OLD dlls are copied to a backup folder >>in case you want to uninstall XP SP3 which in this case I would >>not NEVER do once it is installed. > > You would "not NEVER" do it? That means you WOULD do it. >
Guest ManyBeers Posted August 25, 2008 Posted August 25, 2008 Re: Another Quickie ? "John John (MVP)" wrote: > ManyBeers wrote: > > > > > > >> SFC should pick the files from the ServicePackSourcePath, if it asks for > > > > >the Windows CD then add the SourcePath value. > > > >> John > > > > > > Ok. So i just open a command prompt and at the prompt i type sfc > > /scannow... > > ...is that right? My prompt opens to C:\documentsandsettings\my name. > > You can run it from the Start Menu Run box or from the Command Prompt. > > John > > Ok thanks John. One other thing , if you will notice here:> : HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Setup BootDir CDInstall DriverCachePath Installation Sources LogLevel PrivateHash ServicePackCachePath ServicePackSourcePath there is no SourcePath string. Anyways i went and added it and gave it a value of C:\ which is the location of my i386 folder- just where it's supposed to be. Do you think that is OK?
Guest John John (MVP) Posted August 25, 2008 Posted August 25, 2008 Re: Another Quickie ? ManyBeers wrote: > > "John John (MVP)" wrote: > > >>ManyBeers wrote: >> >> >>> >>>>SFC should pick the files from the ServicePackSourcePath, if it asks for >>> >>> >the Windows CD then add the SourcePath value. >>> >>> >>>>John >>> >>> >>>Ok. So i just open a command prompt and at the prompt i type sfc >>>/scannow... >>>...is that right? My prompt opens to C:\documentsandsettings\my name. >> >>You can run it from the Start Menu Run box or from the Command Prompt. >> >>John >> > > Ok thanks John. One other thing , if you will notice here:> > : > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Setup > BootDir > CDInstall > DriverCachePath > Installation Sources > LogLevel > PrivateHash > ServicePackCachePath > ServicePackSourcePath > > there is no SourcePath string. Anyways i went and added it and gave it a > value of C:\ which is the location of my i386 folder- just where it's > supposed to be. Do you think that is OK? Make sure that it is a REG_SZ value. The SourcePath has to point to the parent folder, the folder containing the i386 folder, and not the i386 folder itself. You said earlier that the i386 folder was at: C:\Windows\i386 so the SourcePath would be C:\Windows John
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