Guest keith Posted August 25, 2008 Posted August 25, 2008 Have been using MSNBC news as my homepage for quite a few years. Thats MS as in MicroSoft. W98 didn't seem to care too much for their new and improved website a while back and any vid from that site would/will freeze this computer and are avoided like the plague. No problem with vids on other news sites. But there has been an odd intermittent problem of late. MSNBC.com site will open just fine when I get there from the desktop IE icon but "internet explorer cannot open the site..." if I try to go there ('Home') from some other site AND if I'm on their site and click on any news story and then go back to the main site page via the 'Home' or 'Back' button I'll get the same message again. This happens quite often but not always. Any and all other visited sites work just fine. Maybe MSNBC made some more "improvements" and cares even less now than before about W98 users. Restored Windows to a registry date prior to start of IE error messages and did the IE repair (reinstall?) from the double click on IE6 in 'add/remove programs' W98, Pent II, IE6, 400 Mhz, 256 ram, small HD for OS and programs, larger HD for files. Just curious at this point. Any other 98 users having similar problem with the MSNBC site? Add me to that short Quantatative list of 98 users. Great post and thread. Haven't finished reading it all yet.
Guest Tim Slattery Posted August 25, 2008 Posted August 25, 2008 Re: Another nail in the W98 coffin? "keith" <uncle@tanoose.nut> wrote: >Have been using MSNBC news as my homepage for quite a few years. Thats MS as >in MicroSoft. >W98 didn't seem to care too much for their new and improved website a while >back and any vid from that site would/will freeze this computer and are >avoided like the plague. No problem with vids on other news sites. > >But there has been an odd intermittent problem of late. > >MSNBC.com site will open just fine when I get there from the desktop IE icon >but "internet explorer cannot open the site..." if I try to go there Have you tried the site with Firefox? Firefox version 2.x will work with Win98, and is *much* more up-to-date than any version of IE that will work with Win98. -- Tim Slattery MS MVP(Shell/User) Slattery_T@bls.gov http://members.cox.net/slatteryt
Guest someone watching Posted August 25, 2008 Posted August 25, 2008 Re: Another nail in the W98 coffin? I have always had trouble with 98 and IE6 since sooo many web sites went with all this flash (crap). It seems to me that is the biggest problem IE6 and 98 have. I must echo Tim's question, > Have you tried the site with Firefox? Being the type of person which really dislikes much change we see, I was slow to try Firefox but now having tried it, having had time for the learning curve, really like it! Although painfully slow to load, once it's loaded what a great browser, highly customizable with plugins, and there are loads of GREAT plugins. To summarize, if FF loaded as fast as IE, I'd use FF all the time and never look back! IE not working properly for you on MSNBC should not be another nail in the coffin, it's not for me; try FF!. ___ "Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message news:dv36b4la2ttg23gu21vde4eijblf0qkigh@4ax.com... > "keith" <uncle@tanoose.nut> wrote: > >>Have been using MSNBC news as my homepage for quite a few years. Thats >>MS as >>in MicroSoft. >>W98 didn't seem to care too much for their new and improved website a >>while >>back and any vid from that site would/will freeze this computer and >>are >>avoided like the plague. No problem with vids on other news sites. >> >>But there has been an odd intermittent problem of late. >> >>MSNBC.com site will open just fine when I get there from the desktop >>IE icon >>but "internet explorer cannot open the site..." if I try to go there > > Have you tried the site with Firefox? Firefox version 2.x will work > with Win98, and is *much* more up-to-date than any version of IE that > will work with Win98. > > -- > Tim Slattery > MS MVP(Shell/User) > Slattery_T@bls.gov > http://members.cox.net/slatteryt
Guest Don Phillipson Posted August 25, 2008 Posted August 25, 2008 Re: Another nail in the W98 coffin? "someone watching" <nospam@bogusaddress.com> wrote in message news:OsS9bwvBJHA.5316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > To summarize, if FF loaded as fast as IE, I'd use FF all the time . . . Under Win98SE (reinstalled in January) IE (v.6) loads in 3 seconds, Firefox (v.2) in 4 seconds -- amply fast enough to prefer all the time. -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada)
Guest letterman@invalid.com Posted August 26, 2008 Posted August 26, 2008 Re: Another nail in the W98 coffin? On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:24:28 -0400, "Don Phillipson" <e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> wrote: >"someone watching" <nospam@bogusaddress.com> wrote in message >news:OsS9bwvBJHA.5316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > >> To summarize, if FF loaded as fast as IE, I'd use FF all the time . . . > >Under Win98SE (reinstalled in January) IE (v.6) loads in 3 seconds, >Firefox (v.2) in 4 seconds -- amply fast enough to prefer all the time. My IE6 loads in only a few seconds, but FF2 is terribly slow. Probably a half minute or more. Like someone else said, if I am going to seriously use the web, I open FF, but just for a quickie link, I use IE because I hate waiting for FF to load. I have no problem loading msnbc.com or their news articles, using IE6. I did not view the videos, I removed flash player completely from IE6. I only have flash player installed in FF, and it's normally turned off with a plugin. Once and awhile I turn it on to watch a youtube video. On web pages that completely flash content, I just leave them. Using flash on a webpage is assinine. I dont mind links to click on, but if the main page itself is flash, I just wont use the site.
Guest Don Phillipson Posted August 26, 2008 Posted August 26, 2008 Re: Another nail in the W98 coffin? <letterman@invalid.com> wrote in message news:9qb7b4hsjmb8hihn7n546li465uuf0iis0@4ax.com... > >Under Win98SE (reinstalled in January) IE (v.6) loads in 3 seconds, > >Firefox (v.2) in 4 seconds -- amply fast enough to prefer all the time. > > My IE6 loads in only a few seconds, but FF2 is terribly slow. > Probably a half minute or more. Agreed, 30 sec. is intolerable: but does this not suggest Firefox has been incorrectly installed or configured? -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada)
Guest someone watching Posted August 26, 2008 Posted August 26, 2008 Re: Another nail in the W98 coffin? >> My IE6 loads in only a few seconds, but FF2 is terribly slow. >> Probably a half minute or more. > > Agreed, 30 sec. is intolerable: but does this not suggest > Firefox has been incorrectly installed or configured? > Don, it MAY suggest that but my setup (O-L-D AMD 550MHz, 384MB ram) loads slowly too, better than 30sec., but it is because of the plugins. If FF is booted in safe mode (firefox -s -m, I think) it boots quickly. The other fellow may have loads of plugins accessing the internet aquiring information too, thus slowing boot time. Once it's up and running though, it's great!
Guest keith Posted August 26, 2008 Posted August 26, 2008 Re: Another nail in the W98 coffin? Thanks, Tim. Have certainly seen numerous references to Mozilla while surfing but never really investigated. DL'd Firefox 2.x with basic set-up and will give it a try. But still wonder why the MSNBC.com web site is the only one that IE6 is having problems with. Maybe I'll ask them. (and see what kind of automated, international reply bounces back) "Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message news:dv36b4la2ttg23gu21vde4eijblf0qkigh@4ax.com... > "keith" <uncle@tanoose.nut> wrote: > > >Have been using MSNBC news as my homepage for quite a few years. Thats MS as > >in MicroSoft. > >W98 didn't seem to care too much for their new and improved website a while > >back and any vid from that site would/will freeze this computer and are > >avoided like the plague. No problem with vids on other news sites. > > > >But there has been an odd intermittent problem of late. > > > >MSNBC.com site will open just fine when I get there from the desktop IE icon > >but "internet explorer cannot open the site..." if I try to go there > > Have you tried the site with Firefox? Firefox version 2.x will work > with Win98, and is *much* more up-to-date than any version of IE that > will work with Win98. > > -- > Tim Slattery > MS MVP(Shell/User) > Slattery_T@bls.gov > http://members.cox.net/slatteryt
Guest Bill in Co. Posted August 26, 2008 Posted August 26, 2008 Re: Another nail in the W98 coffin? letterman@invalid.com wrote: > On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:24:28 -0400, "Don Phillipson" > <e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> wrote: > >> "someone watching" <nospam@bogusaddress.com> wrote in message >> news:OsS9bwvBJHA.5316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> >>> To summarize, if FF loaded as fast as IE, I'd use FF all the time . . . >> >> Under Win98SE (reinstalled in January) IE (v.6) loads in 3 seconds, >> Firefox (v.2) in 4 seconds -- amply fast enough to prefer all the time. > > My IE6 loads in only a few seconds, but FF2 is terribly slow. > Probably a half minute or more. Like someone else said, if I am going > to seriously use the web, I open FF, but just for a quickie link, I > use IE because I hate waiting for FF to load. Similar over here too (maybe not terribly slow, but considerably slower than IE). You might also try K-Meleon. It's less polished than FF, but faster.
Guest letterman@invalid.com Posted August 27, 2008 Posted August 27, 2008 Re: Another nail in the W98 coffin? On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:45:19 -0500, "someone watching" <nospam@bogusaddress.com> wrote: >>> My IE6 loads in only a few seconds, but FF2 is terribly slow. >>> Probably a half minute or more. >> >> Agreed, 30 sec. is intolerable: but does this not suggest >> Firefox has been incorrectly installed or configured? >> > >Don, it MAY suggest that but my setup (O-L-D AMD 550MHz, 384MB ram) >loads slowly too, better than 30sec., but it is because of the plugins. >If FF is booted in safe mode (firefox -s -m, I think) it boots >quickly. The other fellow may have loads of plugins accessing the >internet aquiring information too, thus slowing boot time. > >Once it's up and running though, it's great! > I'm running this on a Pentium III 1ghz with 512megs Ram. Not the slowest, but not fast either. I have about 12 plugins in FF. Of course IE does load faster because part of it is already running in Windows. FF is installed properly. I have the 2.0.0.14 version. It DOES work great once it runs, but its still terribly slow to load. I just keep it loaded once I get it open. If I'm not using it, I just keep it on my homepage, which is a html file of links on my own harddrive.
Guest Tim Slattery Posted August 27, 2008 Posted August 27, 2008 Re: Another nail in the W98 coffin? letterman@invalid.com wrote: >My IE6 loads in only a few seconds, but FF2 is terribly slow. >Probably a half minute or more. I think the reason for that is that IE uses many pieces of Windows that are already loaded before you start IE itself. Firefox doesn't, so it has to load its entire brain when you start it. -- Tim Slattery MS MVP(Shell/User) Slattery_T@bls.gov http://members.cox.net/slatteryt
Guest Dan Posted August 28, 2008 Posted August 28, 2008 Re: Another nail in the W98 coffin? letterman, how come you are not using Mozilla Firefox 2.0.0.16 which is currently the latest version for Windows 98 Second Edition and XP if like me you are currently refusing to move up to version 3 in hopes that version 2 will be supported beyond the end of the 2008 year by Mozilla thus continuing to have support for Windows 98. The puzzling thing to me is how users keep saying Opera is so great but I have noticied Opera does not appear to support 256 bit AES encryption and so like Apple's Safari which also only uses a maximum of 128 bit cipher strength I must ask what makes it so great other than the fact that Opera is willing to support older outdated operating systems? http://secunia.com/product/393/ (Windows 95 moderately critical and less bugs) http://secunia.com/product/13/ (Windows 98 SE less critical bugs) http://secunia.com/advisories/31549/ (highly critical bugs for Opera users and run to get your patch) In short, users can minimize their risks when using Windows 98 Second Edition on the 'Net by mainly using an alternative browser like Mozilla Firefox that is still supported for 98 Second Edition. In addition, tools such as SpywareBlaster will keep you safe as well. I am amused because sometimes I try and lure people to hack my PC just for fun now since I have read up on Steve Riley's research and honey pots and it is just like a long and amusing game. Sadly, I have only lured script kiddies and no one who knew really what they were doing but I am on the look out for the big bad guys like government operatives from China, Russia, even within the U.S.A. that try to hack computers and steal information but these guys (meaning guys and girls of course) seem to be wise to me now and seem to just be leaving my PC alone. Oh Well, there are always others involved in my line of volunteer work as well. <smile> "letterman@invalid.com" wrote: > On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:45:19 -0500, "someone watching" > <nospam@bogusaddress.com> wrote: > > >>> My IE6 loads in only a few seconds, but FF2 is terribly slow. > >>> Probably a half minute or more. > >> > >> Agreed, 30 sec. is intolerable: but does this not suggest > >> Firefox has been incorrectly installed or configured? > >> > > > >Don, it MAY suggest that but my setup (O-L-D AMD 550MHz, 384MB ram) > >loads slowly too, better than 30sec., but it is because of the plugins. > >If FF is booted in safe mode (firefox -s -m, I think) it boots > >quickly. The other fellow may have loads of plugins accessing the > >internet aquiring information too, thus slowing boot time. > > > >Once it's up and running though, it's great! > > > > I'm running this on a Pentium III 1ghz with 512megs Ram. Not the > slowest, but not fast either. I have about 12 plugins in FF. > Of course IE does load faster because part of it is already running in > Windows. FF is installed properly. I have the 2.0.0.14 version. It > DOES work great once it runs, but its still terribly slow to load. > I just keep it loaded once I get it open. If I'm not using it, I just > keep it on my homepage, which is a html file of links on my own > harddrive. > >
Guest gibson Posted August 29, 2008 Posted August 29, 2008 Re: Another nail in the W98 coffin? Sadly, I have only lured script kiddies and no one who > knew really what they were doing but I am on the look out for the big bad > guys like government operatives from China, Russia, even within the U.S.A. > that try to hack computers and steal information but these guys (meaning guys > and girls of course) seem to be wise to me now and seem to just be leaving my > PC alone. Oh Well, there are always others involved in my line of volunteer > work as well. <smile> fear not oh Grate(ing) Dan..... i can personally organise a visit to your home addy from a nice chinese or russian or american traitor.... and then you can 'xplain to them in person how you feel,, this oklee with you,, ?
Guest Dan Posted August 29, 2008 Posted August 29, 2008 Re: Another nail in the W98 coffin? <Yawn> Grin and Bear it -- right Robear <smile> "gibson" wrote: > > Sadly, I have only lured script kiddies and no one who > > knew really what they were doing but I am on the look out for the big bad > > guys like government operatives from China, Russia, even within the U.S.A. > > that try to hack computers and steal information but these guys (meaning guys > > and girls of course) seem to be wise to me now and seem to just be leaving my > > PC alone. Oh Well, there are always others involved in my line of volunteer > > work as well. <smile> > > fear not oh Grate(ing) Dan..... i can personally organise a visit to your home addy from a nice > chinese or russian or american traitor.... and then you can 'xplain to them in person how you > feel,, this oklee with you,, ? > > >
Guest Dan Posted August 29, 2008 Posted August 29, 2008 Re: Another nail in the W98 coffin? Keith, msnbc.com website had some glitches in their website recently. It is on their end and nothing to be concerned about. If you feel that IE 6 is acting poorly all over than you could always do a repair of Internet Explorer 6 if we get to that point on Windows 98. "keith" wrote: > Thanks, Tim. > Have certainly seen numerous references to Mozilla while surfing but never > really investigated. > DL'd Firefox 2.x with basic set-up and will give it a try. > But still wonder why the MSNBC.com web site is the only one that IE6 is > having problems with. > Maybe I'll ask them. (and see what kind of automated, international reply > bounces back) > > "Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message > news:dv36b4la2ttg23gu21vde4eijblf0qkigh@4ax.com... > > "keith" <uncle@tanoose.nut> wrote: > > > > >Have been using MSNBC news as my homepage for quite a few years. Thats MS > as > > >in MicroSoft. > > >W98 didn't seem to care too much for their new and improved website a > while > > >back and any vid from that site would/will freeze this computer and are > > >avoided like the plague. No problem with vids on other news sites. > > > > > >But there has been an odd intermittent problem of late. > > > > > >MSNBC.com site will open just fine when I get there from the desktop IE > icon > > >but "internet explorer cannot open the site..." if I try to go there > > > > Have you tried the site with Firefox? Firefox version 2.x will work > > with Win98, and is *much* more up-to-date than any version of IE that > > will work with Win98. > > > > -- > > Tim Slattery > > MS MVP(Shell/User) > > Slattery_T@bls.gov > > http://members.cox.net/slatteryt > > >
Guest keith Posted September 1, 2008 Posted September 1, 2008 Re: Another nail in the W98 coffin? Firefox speed may be a bit slower but hard to tell for sure on this machine - hell, this thing has a carbureter and points. Was having some 'problems' with Firefox and off-loaded it and downloaded again. Not really any 'problems', just a learning curve issue. It's set as default browser for now and got my 'favorites' copied to it. Might even try an msnbc.com video - to crash or not to crash. Is Java a good thing and/or really necessary? Not sure if it was enabled or not or being used by IE6. Never paid much attention. All in all, so far so good with Firefox. Will also try IE6 again for a while to see about those 'glitches'. Seems some of this thread disappeared. Maybe it went a little too far afield. Thanks much. "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:BA2E19E8-EAC4-4B77-AD0A-AD017BD2AD0C@microsoft.com... > Keith, msnbc.com website had some glitches in their website recently. It is > on their end and nothing to be concerned about. If you feel that IE 6 is > acting poorly all over than you could always do a repair of Internet Explorer > 6 if we get to that point on Windows 98. > > "keith" wrote: > > > Thanks, Tim. > > Have certainly seen numerous references to Mozilla while surfing but never > > really investigated. > > DL'd Firefox 2.x with basic set-up and will give it a try. > > But still wonder why the MSNBC.com web site is the only one that IE6 is > > having problems with. > > Maybe I'll ask them. (and see what kind of automated, international reply > > bounces back) > > > > "Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message > > news:dv36b4la2ttg23gu21vde4eijblf0qkigh@4ax.com... > > > "keith" <uncle@tanoose.nut> wrote: > > > > > > >Have been using MSNBC news as my homepage for quite a few years. Thats MS > > as > > > >in MicroSoft. > > > >W98 didn't seem to care too much for their new and improved website a > > while > > > >back and any vid from that site would/will freeze this computer and are > > > >avoided like the plague. No problem with vids on other news sites. > > > > > > > >But there has been an odd intermittent problem of late. > > > > > > > >MSNBC.com site will open just fine when I get there from the desktop IE > > icon > > > >but "internet explorer cannot open the site..." if I try to go there > > > > > > Have you tried the site with Firefox? Firefox version 2.x will work > > > with Win98, and is *much* more up-to-date than any version of IE that > > > will work with Win98. > > > > > > -- > > > Tim Slattery > > > MS MVP(Shell/User) > > > Slattery_T@bls.gov > > > http://members.cox.net/slatteryt > > > > > >
Guest Dan Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 Re: Another nail in the W98 coffin? You're welcome. Please keep us informed. "keith" wrote: > Firefox speed may be a bit slower but hard to tell for sure on this > machine - hell, this thing has a carbureter and points. > Was having some 'problems' with Firefox and off-loaded it and downloaded > again. > Not really any 'problems', just a learning curve issue. > It's set as default browser for now and got my 'favorites' copied to it. > Might even try an msnbc.com video - to crash or not to crash. > Is Java a good thing and/or really necessary? Not sure if it was enabled or > not or being used by IE6. Never paid much attention. > All in all, so far so good with Firefox. > Will also try IE6 again for a while to see about those 'glitches'. > > Seems some of this thread disappeared. Maybe it went a little too far > afield. > > Thanks much. > > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:BA2E19E8-EAC4-4B77-AD0A-AD017BD2AD0C@microsoft.com... > > Keith, msnbc.com website had some glitches in their website recently. It > is > > on their end and nothing to be concerned about. If you feel that IE 6 is > > acting poorly all over than you could always do a repair of Internet > Explorer > > 6 if we get to that point on Windows 98. > > > > "keith" wrote: > > > > > Thanks, Tim. > > > Have certainly seen numerous references to Mozilla while surfing but > never > > > really investigated. > > > DL'd Firefox 2.x with basic set-up and will give it a try. > > > But still wonder why the MSNBC.com web site is the only one that IE6 is > > > having problems with. > > > Maybe I'll ask them. (and see what kind of automated, international > reply > > > bounces back) > > > > > > "Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message > > > news:dv36b4la2ttg23gu21vde4eijblf0qkigh@4ax.com... > > > > "keith" <uncle@tanoose.nut> wrote: > > > > > > > > >Have been using MSNBC news as my homepage for quite a few years. > Thats MS > > > as > > > > >in MicroSoft. > > > > >W98 didn't seem to care too much for their new and improved website a > > > while > > > > >back and any vid from that site would/will freeze this computer and > are > > > > >avoided like the plague. No problem with vids on other news sites. > > > > > > > > > >But there has been an odd intermittent problem of late. > > > > > > > > > >MSNBC.com site will open just fine when I get there from the desktop > IE > > > icon > > > > >but "internet explorer cannot open the site..." if I try to go there > > > > > > > > Have you tried the site with Firefox? Firefox version 2.x will work > > > > with Win98, and is *much* more up-to-date than any version of IE that > > > > will work with Win98. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Tim Slattery > > > > MS MVP(Shell/User) > > > > Slattery_T@bls.gov > > > > http://members.cox.net/slatteryt > > > > > > > > > > > >
Guest keith Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 Re: Another nail in the W98 coffin? Looks like a Flash player - Adobe - Macromedia - flash9f.ocx problem Error message from last event: Iexplore: This program has performed an illegal operatio and will be shut down If the problem persists, contact program vendor. Details: IEXPLORE executed an invalid instruction in module FLASH9F.OCX at 017f:30055b27. Registers: EAX=00000008 CS=017f EIP=30055b27 EFLGS=00010202 EBX=041ed060 SS=0187 ESP=0064a130 EBP=0064a4dc ECX=00000008 DS=0187 ESI=0064a140 FS=37cf EDX=00000001 ES=0187 EDI=0064a578 GS=0000 Bytes at CS:EIP: 0f 70 c8 e4 0f 60 c7 0f 70 da e4 0f 68 cf 0f 7f Stack dump: 00000021 041f2e70 0064a578 00f60000 ff000000 ff000000 ff000000 ff010101 ff010101 ff000000 ff010101 ff000000 ff000000 ff000000 ff010101 ff010101 Not sure if 'Details' have been the same for other events. Google search for 'flash9.ocx error' shows lots of assorted forum postings for same/similar problem. Have been reading and printing some of them. Adobe fixes and/or flash9.ocx file renaming trick look promising. Will follow up soon. Still wonder why msnbc.com is ONLY visited site that "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:68F7E574-0161-4C1F-858B-AA661EAED3F3@microsoft.com... > You're welcome. Please keep us informed. > > "keith" wrote: > > > Firefox speed may be a bit slower but hard to tell for sure on this > > machine - hell, this thing has a carbureter and points. > > Was having some 'problems' with Firefox and off-loaded it and downloaded > > again. > > Not really any 'problems', just a learning curve issue. > > It's set as default browser for now and got my 'favorites' copied to it. > > Might even try an msnbc.com video - to crash or not to crash. > > Is Java a good thing and/or really necessary? Not sure if it was enabled or > > not or being used by IE6. Never paid much attention. > > All in all, so far so good with Firefox. > > Will also try IE6 again for a while to see about those 'glitches'. > > > > Seems some of this thread disappeared. Maybe it went a little too far > > afield. > > > > Thanks much. > > > > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > news:BA2E19E8-EAC4-4B77-AD0A-AD017BD2AD0C@microsoft.com... > > > Keith, msnbc.com website had some glitches in their website recently. It > > is > > > on their end and nothing to be concerned about. If you feel that IE 6 is > > > acting poorly all over than you could always do a repair of Internet > > Explorer > > > 6 if we get to that point on Windows 98. > > > > > > "keith" wrote: > > > > > > > Thanks, Tim. > > > > Have certainly seen numerous references to Mozilla while surfing but > > never > > > > really investigated. > > > > DL'd Firefox 2.x with basic set-up and will give it a try. > > > > But still wonder why the MSNBC.com web site is the only one that IE6 is > > > > having problems with. > > > > Maybe I'll ask them. (and see what kind of automated, international > > reply > > > > bounces back) > > > > > > > > "Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message > > > > news:dv36b4la2ttg23gu21vde4eijblf0qkigh@4ax.com... > > > > > "keith" <uncle@tanoose.nut> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >Have been using MSNBC news as my homepage for quite a few years. > > Thats MS > > > > as > > > > > >in MicroSoft. > > > > > >W98 didn't seem to care too much for their new and improved website a > > > > while > > > > > >back and any vid from that site would/will freeze this computer and > > are > > > > > >avoided like the plague. No problem with vids on other news sites. > > > > > > > > > > > >But there has been an odd intermittent problem of late. > > > > > > > > > > > >MSNBC.com site will open just fine when I get there from the desktop > > IE > > > > icon > > > > > >but "internet explorer cannot open the site..." if I try to go there > > > > > > > > > > Have you tried the site with Firefox? Firefox version 2.x will work > > > > > with Win98, and is *much* more up-to-date than any version of IE that > > > > > will work with Win98. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Tim Slattery > > > > > MS MVP(Shell/User) > > > > > Slattery_T@bls.gov > > > > > http://members.cox.net/slatteryt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Guest keith Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 Re: Another nail in the W98 coffin? PS: Same details for subsequent error messages. "keith" <uncle@tanoose.nut> wrote in message news:OwlP%23paDJHA.232@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Looks like a Flash player - Adobe - Macromedia - flash9f.ocx problem > > Error message from last event: > Iexplore: > This program has performed an illegal operatio and will be shut down > If the problem persists, contact program vendor. > > Details: > IEXPLORE executed an invalid instruction in module FLASH9F.OCX at > 017f:30055b27. > Registers: > EAX=00000008 CS=017f EIP=30055b27 EFLGS=00010202 > EBX=041ed060 SS=0187 ESP=0064a130 EBP=0064a4dc > ECX=00000008 DS=0187 ESI=0064a140 FS=37cf > EDX=00000001 ES=0187 EDI=0064a578 GS=0000 > Bytes at CS:EIP: > 0f 70 c8 e4 0f 60 c7 0f 70 da e4 0f 68 cf 0f 7f > Stack dump: > 00000021 041f2e70 0064a578 00f60000 ff000000 ff000000 ff000000 ff010101 > ff010101 ff000000 ff010101 ff000000 ff000000 ff000000 ff010101 ff010101 > > Not sure if 'Details' have been the same for other events. > Google search for 'flash9.ocx error' shows lots of assorted forum postings > for same/similar problem. > Have been reading and printing some of them. > Adobe fixes and/or flash9.ocx file renaming trick look promising. > Will follow up soon. > Still wonder why msnbc.com is ONLY visited site that > > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:68F7E574-0161-4C1F-858B-AA661EAED3F3@microsoft.com... > > You're welcome. Please keep us informed. > > > > "keith" wrote: > > > > > Firefox speed may be a bit slower but hard to tell for sure on this > > > machine - hell, this thing has a carbureter and points. > > > Was having some 'problems' with Firefox and off-loaded it and > downloaded > > > again. > > > Not really any 'problems', just a learning curve issue. > > > It's set as default browser for now and got my 'favorites' copied to it. > > > Might even try an msnbc.com video - to crash or not to crash. > > > Is Java a good thing and/or really necessary? Not sure if it was enabled > or > > > not or being used by IE6. Never paid much attention. > > > All in all, so far so good with Firefox. > > > Will also try IE6 again for a while to see about those 'glitches'. > > > > > > Seems some of this thread disappeared. Maybe it went a little too far > > > afield. > > > > > > Thanks much. > > > > > > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > news:BA2E19E8-EAC4-4B77-AD0A-AD017BD2AD0C@microsoft.com... > > > > Keith, msnbc.com website had some glitches in their website recently. > It > > > is > > > > on their end and nothing to be concerned about. If you feel that IE 6 > is > > > > acting poorly all over than you could always do a repair of Internet > > > Explorer > > > > 6 if we get to that point on Windows 98. > > > > > > > > "keith" wrote: > > > > > > > > > Thanks, Tim. > > > > > Have certainly seen numerous references to Mozilla while surfing but > > > never > > > > > really investigated. > > > > > DL'd Firefox 2.x with basic set-up and will give it a try. > > > > > But still wonder why the MSNBC.com web site is the only one that IE6 > is > > > > > having problems with. > > > > > Maybe I'll ask them. (and see what kind of automated, international > > > reply > > > > > bounces back) > > > > > > > > > > "Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message > > > > > news:dv36b4la2ttg23gu21vde4eijblf0qkigh@4ax.com... > > > > > > "keith" <uncle@tanoose.nut> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > >Have been using MSNBC news as my homepage for quite a few years. > > > Thats MS > > > > > as > > > > > > >in MicroSoft. > > > > > > >W98 didn't seem to care too much for their new and improved > website a > > > > > while > > > > > > >back and any vid from that site would/will freeze this computer > and > > > are > > > > > > >avoided like the plague. No problem with vids on other news > sites. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >But there has been an odd intermittent problem of late. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >MSNBC.com site will open just fine when I get there from the > desktop > > > IE > > > > > icon > > > > > > >but "internet explorer cannot open the site..." if I try to go > there > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you tried the site with Firefox? Firefox version 2.x will > work > > > > > > with Win98, and is *much* more up-to-date than any version of IE > that > > > > > > will work with Win98. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Tim Slattery > > > > > > MS MVP(Shell/User) > > > > > > Slattery_T@bls.gov > > > > > > http://members.cox.net/slatteryt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Guest Dan Posted September 4, 2008 Posted September 4, 2008 Re: Another nail in the W98 coffin? Keith, please remove all adobe and macromedia flash player stuff and then reboot and install what you need again. It sounds not too serious but that the flash player and Adobe Macromedia stuff has been corrupted some how. Hopefully, removal will not give you any errors but if so still let us know in 98 General and we will keep trying to help you with your issues. "keith" wrote: > PS: Same details for subsequent error messages. > "keith" <uncle@tanoose.nut> wrote in message > news:OwlP%23paDJHA.232@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > Looks like a Flash player - Adobe - Macromedia - flash9f.ocx problem > > > > Error message from last event: > > Iexplore: > > This program has performed an illegal operatio and will be shut down > > If the problem persists, contact program vendor. > > > > Details: > > IEXPLORE executed an invalid instruction in module FLASH9F.OCX at > > 017f:30055b27. > > Registers: > > EAX=00000008 CS=017f EIP=30055b27 EFLGS=00010202 > > EBX=041ed060 SS=0187 ESP=0064a130 EBP=0064a4dc > > ECX=00000008 DS=0187 ESI=0064a140 FS=37cf > > EDX=00000001 ES=0187 EDI=0064a578 GS=0000 > > Bytes at CS:EIP: > > 0f 70 c8 e4 0f 60 c7 0f 70 da e4 0f 68 cf 0f 7f > > Stack dump: > > 00000021 041f2e70 0064a578 00f60000 ff000000 ff000000 ff000000 ff010101 > > ff010101 ff000000 ff010101 ff000000 ff000000 ff000000 ff010101 ff010101 > > > > Not sure if 'Details' have been the same for other events. > > Google search for 'flash9.ocx error' shows lots of assorted forum postings > > for same/similar problem. > > Have been reading and printing some of them. > > Adobe fixes and/or flash9.ocx file renaming trick look promising. > > Will follow up soon. > > Still wonder why msnbc.com is ONLY visited site that > > > > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > news:68F7E574-0161-4C1F-858B-AA661EAED3F3@microsoft.com... > > > You're welcome. Please keep us informed. > > > > > > "keith" wrote: > > > > > > > Firefox speed may be a bit slower but hard to tell for sure on this > > > > machine - hell, this thing has a carbureter and points. > > > > Was having some 'problems' with Firefox and off-loaded it and > > downloaded > > > > again. > > > > Not really any 'problems', just a learning curve issue. > > > > It's set as default browser for now and got my 'favorites' copied to > it. > > > > Might even try an msnbc.com video - to crash or not to crash. > > > > Is Java a good thing and/or really necessary? Not sure if it was > enabled > > or > > > > not or being used by IE6. Never paid much attention. > > > > All in all, so far so good with Firefox. > > > > Will also try IE6 again for a while to see about those 'glitches'. > > > > > > > > Seems some of this thread disappeared. Maybe it went a little too far > > > > afield. > > > > > > > > Thanks much. > > > > > > > > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > > news:BA2E19E8-EAC4-4B77-AD0A-AD017BD2AD0C@microsoft.com... > > > > > Keith, msnbc.com website had some glitches in their website > recently. > > It > > > > is > > > > > on their end and nothing to be concerned about. If you feel that IE > 6 > > is > > > > > acting poorly all over than you could always do a repair of Internet > > > > Explorer > > > > > 6 if we get to that point on Windows 98. > > > > > > > > > > "keith" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, Tim. > > > > > > Have certainly seen numerous references to Mozilla while surfing > but > > > > never > > > > > > really investigated. > > > > > > DL'd Firefox 2.x with basic set-up and will give it a try. > > > > > > But still wonder why the MSNBC.com web site is the only one that > IE6 > > is > > > > > > having problems with. > > > > > > Maybe I'll ask them. (and see what kind of automated, > international > > > > reply > > > > > > bounces back) > > > > > > > > > > > > "Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message > > > > > > news:dv36b4la2ttg23gu21vde4eijblf0qkigh@4ax.com... > > > > > > > "keith" <uncle@tanoose.nut> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Have been using MSNBC news as my homepage for quite a few > years. > > > > Thats MS > > > > > > as > > > > > > > >in MicroSoft. > > > > > > > >W98 didn't seem to care too much for their new and improved > > website a > > > > > > while > > > > > > > >back and any vid from that site would/will freeze this computer > > and > > > > are > > > > > > > >avoided like the plague. No problem with vids on other news > > sites. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >But there has been an odd intermittent problem of late. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >MSNBC.com site will open just fine when I get there from the > > desktop > > > > IE > > > > > > icon > > > > > > > >but "internet explorer cannot open the site..." if I try to go > > there > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you tried the site with Firefox? Firefox version 2.x will > > work > > > > > > > with Win98, and is *much* more up-to-date than any version of IE > > that > > > > > > > will work with Win98. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Tim Slattery > > > > > > > MS MVP(Shell/User) > > > > > > > Slattery_T@bls.gov > > > > > > > http://members.cox.net/slatteryt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Guest keith Posted September 7, 2008 Posted September 7, 2008 Re: Another nail in the W98 coffin? 'Add/remov'ed Macromedia Flash item and used Adobe site's uninstall option. Find > Files and folders > 'adobe' and 'flash' still showed some related items. Mostly in Applications data and assorted Temp files. Just highlighted and deleted the obvious stuff. Left Adobe Reader alone. Almost two days now without that error message. Fingers crossed. Even the larger occasional 'Microsoft IE has encountered a problem......, send or don't send report' error message seems in remission. Pretty much begs the obvious question - Do I really need the Flash thing? Have seen 'Flash Player not installed' in a few add spaces on some pages but other than that I've been doing what I usually do with this machine without any appearant problems. Looking back over the thread - in a comment I made about Firefox speed I'd meant to say 'hell, this thing has a distributor and points'. Sometimes I miss tinkering and tweaking those things.A few basic tools and a couple of beers and all was well. Thanks again. "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:097E0A63-D373-4A68-A039-960014EFCB43@microsoft.com... > Keith, please remove all adobe and macromedia flash player stuff and then > reboot and install what you need again. It sounds not too serious but that > the flash player and Adobe Macromedia stuff has been corrupted some how. > Hopefully, removal will not give you any errors but if so still let us know > in 98 General and we will keep trying to help you with your issues. > > "keith" wrote: > > > PS: Same details for subsequent error messages. > > "keith" <uncle@tanoose.nut> wrote in message > > news:OwlP%23paDJHA.232@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > > Looks like a Flash player - Adobe - Macromedia - flash9f.ocx problem > > > > > > Error message from last event: > > > Iexplore: > > > This program has performed an illegal operatio and will be shut down > > > If the problem persists, contact program vendor. > > > > > > Details: > > > IEXPLORE executed an invalid instruction in module FLASH9F.OCX at > > > 017f:30055b27. > > > Registers: > > > EAX=00000008 CS=017f EIP=30055b27 EFLGS=00010202 > > > EBX=041ed060 SS=0187 ESP=0064a130 EBP=0064a4dc > > > ECX=00000008 DS=0187 ESI=0064a140 FS=37cf > > > EDX=00000001 ES=0187 EDI=0064a578 GS=0000 > > > Bytes at CS:EIP: > > > 0f 70 c8 e4 0f 60 c7 0f 70 da e4 0f 68 cf 0f 7f > > > Stack dump: > > > 00000021 041f2e70 0064a578 00f60000 ff000000 ff000000 ff000000 ff010101 > > > ff010101 ff000000 ff010101 ff000000 ff000000 ff000000 ff010101 ff010101 > > > > > > Not sure if 'Details' have been the same for other events. > > > Google search for 'flash9.ocx error' shows lots of assorted forum postings > > > for same/similar problem. > > > Have been reading and printing some of them. > > > Adobe fixes and/or flash9.ocx file renaming trick look promising. > > > Will follow up soon. > > > Still wonder why msnbc.com is ONLY visited site that > > > > > > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > news:68F7E574-0161-4C1F-858B-AA661EAED3F3@microsoft.com... > > > > You're welcome. Please keep us informed. > > > > > > > > "keith" wrote: > > > > > > > > > Firefox speed may be a bit slower but hard to tell for sure on this > > > > > machine - hell, this thing has a carbureter and points. > > > > > Was having some 'problems' with Firefox and off-loaded it and > > > downloaded > > > > > again. > > > > > Not really any 'problems', just a learning curve issue. > > > > > It's set as default browser for now and got my 'favorites' copied to > > it. > > > > > Might even try an msnbc.com video - to crash or not to crash. > > > > > Is Java a good thing and/or really necessary? Not sure if it was > > enabled > > > or > > > > > not or being used by IE6. Never paid much attention. > > > > > All in all, so far so good with Firefox. > > > > > Will also try IE6 again for a while to see about those 'glitches'. > > > > > > > > > > Seems some of this thread disappeared. Maybe it went a little too far > > > > > afield. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks much. > > > > > > > > > > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > > > news:BA2E19E8-EAC4-4B77-AD0A-AD017BD2AD0C@microsoft.com... > > > > > > Keith, msnbc.com website had some glitches in their website > > recently. > > > It > > > > > is > > > > > > on their end and nothing to be concerned about. If you feel that IE > > 6 > > > is > > > > > > acting poorly all over than you could always do a repair of Internet > > > > > Explorer > > > > > > 6 if we get to that point on Windows 98. > > > > > > > > > > > > "keith" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, Tim. > > > > > > > Have certainly seen numerous references to Mozilla while surfing > > but > > > > > never > > > > > > > really investigated. > > > > > > > DL'd Firefox 2.x with basic set-up and will give it a try. > > > > > > > But still wonder why the MSNBC.com web site is the only one that > > IE6 > > > is > > > > > > > having problems with. > > > > > > > Maybe I'll ask them. (and see what kind of automated, > > international > > > > > reply > > > > > > > bounces back) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message > > > > > > > news:dv36b4la2ttg23gu21vde4eijblf0qkigh@4ax.com... > > > > > > > > "keith" <uncle@tanoose.nut> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Have been using MSNBC news as my homepage for quite a few > > years. > > > > > Thats MS > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > >in MicroSoft. > > > > > > > > >W98 didn't seem to care too much for their new and improved > > > website a > > > > > > > while > > > > > > > > >back and any vid from that site would/will freeze this computer > > > and > > > > > are > > > > > > > > >avoided like the plague. No problem with vids on other news > > > sites. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >But there has been an odd intermittent problem of late. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >MSNBC.com site will open just fine when I get there from the > > > desktop > > > > > IE > > > > > > > icon > > > > > > > > >but "internet explorer cannot open the site..." if I try to go > > > there > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you tried the site with Firefox? Firefox version 2.x will > > > work > > > > > > > > with Win98, and is *much* more up-to-date than any version of IE > > > that > > > > > > > > will work with Win98. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Tim Slattery > > > > > > > > MS MVP(Shell/User) > > > > > > > > Slattery_T@bls.gov > > > > > > > > http://members.cox.net/slatteryt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Guest Dan Posted September 7, 2008 Posted September 7, 2008 Re: Another nail in the W98 coffin? You are most welcome. It is usually fairly easy to remove software and then do a clean install of the software in Windows 98/98 Second Edition. Unfortunately, things can get more complicated in Windows XP with more junk scattered throughout more folders. I like to operate under the mantra if you don't need the program or service then just remove it and add it back on when a web-site comes up that actually needs it and you actually want to use the website. I had to remove Adobe Flash and Macromedia stuff as well as the Adobe Reader because they got corrupted a while ago. If Internet Explorer 6 gets corrupted in 98 Second Edition you can always do a repair of IE 6 that should bring it back to its original state. A lot of errors and BSOD's were caused by third party software drivers that were written poorly for 98 Second Edition back around 1998(1999)-2003. "keith" wrote: > 'Add/remov'ed Macromedia Flash item and used Adobe site's uninstall option. > Find > Files and folders > 'adobe' and 'flash' still showed some related > items. Mostly in Applications data and assorted Temp files. > Just highlighted and deleted the obvious stuff. Left Adobe Reader alone. > Almost two days now without that error message. Fingers crossed. > Even the larger occasional 'Microsoft IE has encountered a problem......, > send or don't send report' error message seems in remission. > > Pretty much begs the obvious question - Do I really need the Flash thing? > Have seen 'Flash Player not installed' in a few add spaces on some pages but > other than that I've been doing what I usually do with this machine without > any appearant problems. > > Looking back over the thread - > in a comment I made about Firefox speed I'd meant to say 'hell, this thing > has a distributor and points'. > Sometimes I miss tinkering and tweaking those things.A few basic tools and a > couple of beers and all was well. > > Thanks again. > > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:097E0A63-D373-4A68-A039-960014EFCB43@microsoft.com... > > Keith, please remove all adobe and macromedia flash player stuff and then > > reboot and install what you need again. It sounds not too serious but > that > > the flash player and Adobe Macromedia stuff has been corrupted some how. > > Hopefully, removal will not give you any errors but if so still let us > know > > in 98 General and we will keep trying to help you with your issues. > > > > "keith" wrote: > > > > > PS: Same details for subsequent error messages. > > > "keith" <uncle@tanoose.nut> wrote in message > > > news:OwlP%23paDJHA.232@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > > > Looks like a Flash player - Adobe - Macromedia - flash9f.ocx problem > > > > > > > > Error message from last event: > > > > Iexplore: > > > > This program has performed an illegal operatio and will be shut down > > > > If the problem persists, contact program vendor. > > > > > > > > Details: > > > > IEXPLORE executed an invalid instruction in module FLASH9F.OCX at > > > > 017f:30055b27. > > > > Registers: > > > > EAX=00000008 CS=017f EIP=30055b27 EFLGS=00010202 > > > > EBX=041ed060 SS=0187 ESP=0064a130 EBP=0064a4dc > > > > ECX=00000008 DS=0187 ESI=0064a140 FS=37cf > > > > EDX=00000001 ES=0187 EDI=0064a578 GS=0000 > > > > Bytes at CS:EIP: > > > > 0f 70 c8 e4 0f 60 c7 0f 70 da e4 0f 68 cf 0f 7f > > > > Stack dump: > > > > 00000021 041f2e70 0064a578 00f60000 ff000000 ff000000 ff000000 > ff010101 > > > > ff010101 ff000000 ff010101 ff000000 ff000000 ff000000 ff010101 > ff010101 > > > > > > > > Not sure if 'Details' have been the same for other events. > > > > Google search for 'flash9.ocx error' shows lots of assorted forum > postings > > > > for same/similar problem. > > > > Have been reading and printing some of them. > > > > Adobe fixes and/or flash9.ocx file renaming trick look promising. > > > > Will follow up soon. > > > > Still wonder why msnbc.com is ONLY visited site that > > > > > > > > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > > news:68F7E574-0161-4C1F-858B-AA661EAED3F3@microsoft.com... > > > > > You're welcome. Please keep us informed. > > > > > > > > > > "keith" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Firefox speed may be a bit slower but hard to tell for sure on > this > > > > > > machine - hell, this thing has a carbureter and points. > > > > > > Was having some 'problems' with Firefox and off-loaded it and > > > > downloaded > > > > > > again. > > > > > > Not really any 'problems', just a learning curve issue. > > > > > > It's set as default browser for now and got my 'favorites' copied > to > > > it. > > > > > > Might even try an msnbc.com video - to crash or not to crash. > > > > > > Is Java a good thing and/or really necessary? Not sure if it was > > > enabled > > > > or > > > > > > not or being used by IE6. Never paid much attention. > > > > > > All in all, so far so good with Firefox. > > > > > > Will also try IE6 again for a while to see about those 'glitches'. > > > > > > > > > > > > Seems some of this thread disappeared. Maybe it went a little too > far > > > > > > afield. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks much. > > > > > > > > > > > > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > > > > news:BA2E19E8-EAC4-4B77-AD0A-AD017BD2AD0C@microsoft.com... > > > > > > > Keith, msnbc.com website had some glitches in their website > > > recently. > > > > It > > > > > > is > > > > > > > on their end and nothing to be concerned about. If you feel > that IE > > > 6 > > > > is > > > > > > > acting poorly all over than you could always do a repair of > Internet > > > > > > Explorer > > > > > > > 6 if we get to that point on Windows 98. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "keith" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, Tim. > > > > > > > > Have certainly seen numerous references to Mozilla while > surfing > > > but > > > > > > never > > > > > > > > really investigated. > > > > > > > > DL'd Firefox 2.x with basic set-up and will give it a try. > > > > > > > > But still wonder why the MSNBC.com web site is the only one > that > > > IE6 > > > > is > > > > > > > > having problems with. > > > > > > > > Maybe I'll ask them. (and see what kind of automated, > > > international > > > > > > reply > > > > > > > > bounces back) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message > > > > > > > > news:dv36b4la2ttg23gu21vde4eijblf0qkigh@4ax.com... > > > > > > > > > "keith" <uncle@tanoose.nut> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Have been using MSNBC news as my homepage for quite a few > > > years. > > > > > > Thats MS > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > >in MicroSoft. > > > > > > > > > >W98 didn't seem to care too much for their new and improved > > > > website a > > > > > > > > while > > > > > > > > > >back and any vid from that site would/will freeze this > computer > > > > and > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > >avoided like the plague. No problem with vids on other > news > > > > sites. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >But there has been an odd intermittent problem of late. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >MSNBC.com site will open just fine when I get there from > the > > > > desktop > > > > > > IE > > > > > > > > icon > > > > > > > > > >but "internet explorer cannot open the site..." if I try to > go > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you tried the site with Firefox? Firefox version 2.x > will > > > > work > > > > > > > > > with Win98, and is *much* more up-to-date than any version > of IE > > > > that > > > > > > > > > will work with Win98. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > Tim Slattery > > > > > > > > > MS MVP(Shell/User) > > > > > > > > > Slattery_T@bls.gov > > > > > > > > > http://members.cox.net/slatteryt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Guest keith Posted September 8, 2008 Posted September 8, 2008 Re: Another nail in the W98 coffin? Surprise, surprise. Guess what has found it's way back onto the Start > Add/Remove list a couple of times? Without asking! Without clicking 'Yes' to anything! Yep! Adobe Flash X. Deleted and uninstalled twice. Once when I was just checking the list for something and once when I was checking the list for IT after getting that error message again. Could Adobe Reader 5 or MSNBC be doing it automatically if they think I need it? Haven't used Adobe Reader in at least a week. Will not visit MSNBC for a while and then maybe dump Adobe Reader, too. Maybe I can figure out how/why it keeps re-insinuating itself. "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:D2CB9C00-1EBE-4931-887C-AA0DCB2A2269@microsoft.com... > You are most welcome. It is usually fairly easy to remove software and then > do a clean install of the software in Windows 98/98 Second Edition. > Unfortunately, things can get more complicated in Windows XP with more junk > scattered throughout more folders. I like to operate under the mantra if you > don't need the program or service then just remove it and add it back on when > a web-site comes up that actually needs it and you actually want to use the > website. I had to remove Adobe Flash and Macromedia stuff as well as the > Adobe Reader because they got corrupted a while ago. If Internet Explorer 6 > gets corrupted in 98 Second Edition you can always do a repair of IE 6 that > should bring it back to its original state. A lot of errors and BSOD's were > caused by third party software drivers that were written poorly for 98 Second > Edition back around 1998(1999)-2003. > > "keith" wrote: > > > 'Add/remov'ed Macromedia Flash item and used Adobe site's uninstall option. > > Find > Files and folders > 'adobe' and 'flash' still showed some related > > items. Mostly in Applications data and assorted Temp files. > > Just highlighted and deleted the obvious stuff. Left Adobe Reader alone. > > Almost two days now without that error message. Fingers crossed. > > Even the larger occasional 'Microsoft IE has encountered a problem......, > > send or don't send report' error message seems in remission. > > > > Pretty much begs the obvious question - Do I really need the Flash thing? > > Have seen 'Flash Player not installed' in a few add spaces on some pages but > > other than that I've been doing what I usually do with this machine without > > any appearant problems. > > > > Looking back over the thread - > > in a comment I made about Firefox speed I'd meant to say 'hell, this thing > > has a distributor and points'. > > Sometimes I miss tinkering and tweaking those things.A few basic tools and a > > couple of beers and all was well. > > > > Thanks again. > > > > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > news:097E0A63-D373-4A68-A039-960014EFCB43@microsoft.com... > > > Keith, please remove all adobe and macromedia flash player stuff and then > > > reboot and install what you need again. It sounds not too serious but > > that > > > the flash player and Adobe Macromedia stuff has been corrupted some how. > > > Hopefully, removal will not give you any errors but if so still let us > > know > > > in 98 General and we will keep trying to help you with your issues. > > > > > > "keith" wrote: > > > > > > > PS: Same details for subsequent error messages. > > > > "keith" <uncle@tanoose.nut> wrote in message > > > > news:OwlP%23paDJHA.232@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > > > > Looks like a Flash player - Adobe - Macromedia - flash9f.ocx problem > > > > > > > > > > Error message from last event: > > > > > Iexplore: > > > > > This program has performed an illegal operatio and will be shut down > > > > > If the problem persists, contact program vendor. > > > > > > > > > > Details: > > > > > IEXPLORE executed an invalid instruction in module FLASH9F.OCX at > > > > > 017f:30055b27. > > > > > Registers: > > > > > EAX=00000008 CS=017f EIP=30055b27 EFLGS=00010202 > > > > > EBX=041ed060 SS=0187 ESP=0064a130 EBP=0064a4dc > > > > > ECX=00000008 DS=0187 ESI=0064a140 FS=37cf > > > > > EDX=00000001 ES=0187 EDI=0064a578 GS=0000 > > > > > Bytes at CS:EIP: > > > > > 0f 70 c8 e4 0f 60 c7 0f 70 da e4 0f 68 cf 0f 7f > > > > > Stack dump: > > > > > 00000021 041f2e70 0064a578 00f60000 ff000000 ff000000 ff000000 > > ff010101 > > > > > ff010101 ff000000 ff010101 ff000000 ff000000 ff000000 ff010101 > > ff010101 > > > > > > > > > > Not sure if 'Details' have been the same for other events. > > > > > Google search for 'flash9.ocx error' shows lots of assorted forum > > postings > > > > > for same/similar problem. > > > > > Have been reading and printing some of them. > > > > > Adobe fixes and/or flash9.ocx file renaming trick look promising. > > > > > Will follow up soon. > > > > > Still wonder why msnbc.com is ONLY visited site that > > > > > > > > > > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > > > news:68F7E574-0161-4C1F-858B-AA661EAED3F3@microsoft.com... > > > > > > You're welcome. Please keep us informed. > > > > > > > > > > > > "keith" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Firefox speed may be a bit slower but hard to tell for sure on > > this > > > > > > > machine - hell, this thing has a carbureter and points. > > > > > > > Was having some 'problems' with Firefox and off-loaded it and > > > > > downloaded > > > > > > > again. > > > > > > > Not really any 'problems', just a learning curve issue. > > > > > > > It's set as default browser for now and got my 'favorites' copied > > to > > > > it. > > > > > > > Might even try an msnbc.com video - to crash or not to crash. > > > > > > > Is Java a good thing and/or really necessary? Not sure if it was > > > > enabled > > > > > or > > > > > > > not or being used by IE6. Never paid much attention. > > > > > > > All in all, so far so good with Firefox. > > > > > > > Will also try IE6 again for a while to see about those 'glitches'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seems some of this thread disappeared. Maybe it went a little too > > far > > > > > > > afield. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks much. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > > > > > news:BA2E19E8-EAC4-4B77-AD0A-AD017BD2AD0C@microsoft.com... > > > > > > > > Keith, msnbc.com website had some glitches in their website > > > > recently. > > > > > It > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > on their end and nothing to be concerned about. If you feel > > that IE > > > > 6 > > > > > is > > > > > > > > acting poorly all over than you could always do a repair of > > Internet > > > > > > > Explorer > > > > > > > > 6 if we get to that point on Windows 98. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "keith" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, Tim. > > > > > > > > > Have certainly seen numerous references to Mozilla while > > surfing > > > > but > > > > > > > never > > > > > > > > > really investigated. > > > > > > > > > DL'd Firefox 2.x with basic set-up and will give it a try. > > > > > > > > > But still wonder why the MSNBC.com web site is the only one > > that > > > > IE6 > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > having problems with. > > > > > > > > > Maybe I'll ask them. (and see what kind of automated, > > > > international > > > > > > > reply > > > > > > > > > bounces back) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > news:dv36b4la2ttg23gu21vde4eijblf0qkigh@4ax.com... > > > > > > > > > > "keith" <uncle@tanoose.nut> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Have been using MSNBC news as my homepage for quite a few > > > > years. > > > > > > > Thats MS > > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > >in MicroSoft. > > > > > > > > > > >W98 didn't seem to care too much for their new and improved > > > > > website a > > > > > > > > > while > > > > > > > > > > >back and any vid from that site would/will freeze this > > computer > > > > > and > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > >avoided like the plague. No problem with vids on other > > news > > > > > sites. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >But there has been an odd intermittent problem of late. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >MSNBC.com site will open just fine when I get there from > > the > > > > > desktop > > > > > > > IE > > > > > > > > > icon > > > > > > > > > > >but "internet explorer cannot open the site..." if I try to > > go > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you tried the site with Firefox? Firefox version 2.x > > will > > > > > work > > > > > > > > > > with Win98, and is *much* more up-to-date than any version > > of IE > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > will work with Win98. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > Tim Slattery > > > > > > > > > > MS MVP(Shell/User) > > > > > > > > > > Slattery_T@bls.gov > > > > > > > > > > http://members.cox.net/slatteryt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Guest MEB Posted September 9, 2008 Posted September 9, 2008 Re: Another nail in the W98 coffin? "keith" <uncle@tanoose.nut> wrote in message news:%23UZE2DgEJHA.1272@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... | Surprise, surprise. | Guess what has found it's way back onto the Start > Add/Remove list a couple | of times? | Without asking! Without clicking 'Yes' to anything! | Yep! Adobe Flash X. Deleted and uninstalled twice. | Once when I was just checking the list for something and once when I was | checking the list for IT after getting that error message again. | | Could Adobe Reader 5 or MSNBC be doing it automatically if they think I need | it? | Haven't used Adobe Reader in at least a week. | | Will not visit MSNBC for a while and then maybe dump Adobe Reader, too. | Maybe I can figure out how/why it keeps re-insinuating itself. Make sure you do NOT have Enable Install on Demand (both/either) checked in IE {Advanced Settings] or any other browser [whatever respective term] to allow this to occur. Also check Prompt for the various scripting allowances in Security, Java, and other setable areas. Do a HD search for Flash and ShockWave [likely in System and/or User profile] -- MEB a Peoples' counsel -- _________ | | "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message | news:D2CB9C00-1EBE-4931-887C-AA0DCB2A2269@microsoft.com... | > You are most welcome. It is usually fairly easy to remove software and | then | > do a clean install of the software in Windows 98/98 Second Edition. | > Unfortunately, things can get more complicated in Windows XP with more | junk | > scattered throughout more folders. I like to operate under the mantra if | you | > don't need the program or service then just remove it and add it back on | when | > a web-site comes up that actually needs it and you actually want to use | the | > website. I had to remove Adobe Flash and Macromedia stuff as well as the | > Adobe Reader because they got corrupted a while ago. If Internet Explorer | 6 | > gets corrupted in 98 Second Edition you can always do a repair of IE 6 | that | > should bring it back to its original state. A lot of errors and BSOD's | were | > caused by third party software drivers that were written poorly for 98 | Second | > Edition back around 1998(1999)-2003. | > | > "keith" wrote: | > | > > 'Add/remov'ed Macromedia Flash item and used Adobe site's uninstall | option. | > > Find > Files and folders > 'adobe' and 'flash' still showed some | related | > > items. Mostly in Applications data and assorted Temp files. | > > Just highlighted and deleted the obvious stuff. Left Adobe Reader alone. | > > Almost two days now without that error message. Fingers crossed. | > > Even the larger occasional 'Microsoft IE has encountered a | problem......, | > > send or don't send report' error message seems in remission. | > > | > > Pretty much begs the obvious question - Do I really need the Flash | thing? | > > Have seen 'Flash Player not installed' in a few add spaces on some pages | but | > > other than that I've been doing what I usually do with this machine | without | > > any appearant problems. | > > | > > Looking back over the thread - | > > in a comment I made about Firefox speed I'd meant to say 'hell, this | thing | > > has a distributor and points'. | > > Sometimes I miss tinkering and tweaking those things.A few basic tools | and a | > > couple of beers and all was well. | > > | > > Thanks again. | > > | > > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message | > > news:097E0A63-D373-4A68-A039-960014EFCB43@microsoft.com... | > > > Keith, please remove all adobe and macromedia flash player stuff and | then | > > > reboot and install what you need again. It sounds not too serious but | > > that | > > > the flash player and Adobe Macromedia stuff has been corrupted some | how. | > > > Hopefully, removal will not give you any errors but if so still let us | > > know | > > > in 98 General and we will keep trying to help you with your issues. | > > > | > > > "keith" wrote: | > > > | > > > > PS: Same details for subsequent error messages. | > > > > "keith" <uncle@tanoose.nut> wrote in message | > > > > news:OwlP%23paDJHA.232@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... | > > > > > Looks like a Flash player - Adobe - Macromedia - flash9f.ocx | problem | > > > > > | > > > > > Error message from last event: | > > > > > Iexplore: | > > > > > This program has performed an illegal operatio and will be shut | down | > > > > > If the problem persists, contact program vendor. | > > > > > | > > > > > Details: | > > > > > IEXPLORE executed an invalid instruction in module FLASH9F.OCX at | > > > > > 017f:30055b27. | > > > > > Registers: | > > > > > EAX=00000008 CS=017f EIP=30055b27 EFLGS=00010202 | > > > > > EBX=041ed060 SS=0187 ESP=0064a130 EBP=0064a4dc | > > > > > ECX=00000008 DS=0187 ESI=0064a140 FS=37cf | > > > > > EDX=00000001 ES=0187 EDI=0064a578 GS=0000 | > > > > > Bytes at CS:EIP: | > > > > > 0f 70 c8 e4 0f 60 c7 0f 70 da e4 0f 68 cf 0f 7f | > > > > > Stack dump: | > > > > > 00000021 041f2e70 0064a578 00f60000 ff000000 ff000000 ff000000 | > > ff010101 | > > > > > ff010101 ff000000 ff010101 ff000000 ff000000 ff000000 ff010101 | > > ff010101 | > > > > > | > > > > > Not sure if 'Details' have been the same for other events. | > > > > > Google search for 'flash9.ocx error' shows lots of assorted forum | > > postings | > > > > > for same/similar problem. | > > > > > Have been reading and printing some of them. | > > > > > Adobe fixes and/or flash9.ocx file renaming trick look promising. | > > > > > Will follow up soon. | > > > > > Still wonder why msnbc.com is ONLY visited site that | > > > > > | > > > > > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message | > > > > > news:68F7E574-0161-4C1F-858B-AA661EAED3F3@microsoft.com... | > > > > > > You're welcome. Please keep us informed. | > > > > > > | > > > > > > "keith" wrote: | > > > > > > | > > > > > > > Firefox speed may be a bit slower but hard to tell for sure on | > > this | > > > > > > > machine - hell, this thing has a carbureter and points. | > > > > > > > Was having some 'problems' with Firefox and off-loaded it and | > > > > > downloaded | > > > > > > > again. | > > > > > > > Not really any 'problems', just a learning curve issue. | > > > > > > > It's set as default browser for now and got my 'favorites' | copied | > > to | > > > > it. | > > > > > > > Might even try an msnbc.com video - to crash or not to crash. | > > > > > > > Is Java a good thing and/or really necessary? Not sure if it | was | > > > > enabled | > > > > > or | > > > > > > > not or being used by IE6. Never paid much attention. | > > > > > > > All in all, so far so good with Firefox. | > > > > > > > Will also try IE6 again for a while to see about those | 'glitches'. | > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > Seems some of this thread disappeared. Maybe it went a little | too | > > far | > > > > > > > afield. | > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > Thanks much. | > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message | > > > > > > > news:BA2E19E8-EAC4-4B77-AD0A-AD017BD2AD0C@microsoft.com... | > > > > > > > > Keith, msnbc.com website had some glitches in their website | > > > > recently. | > > > > > It | > > > > > > > is | > > > > > > > > on their end and nothing to be concerned about. If you feel | > > that IE | > > > > 6 | > > > > > is | > > > > > > > > acting poorly all over than you could always do a repair of | > > Internet | > > > > > > > Explorer | > > > > > > > > 6 if we get to that point on Windows 98. | > > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > > "keith" wrote: | > > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > > > Thanks, Tim. | > > > > > > > > > Have certainly seen numerous references to Mozilla while | > > surfing | > > > > but | > > > > > > > never | > > > > > > > > > really investigated. | > > > > > > > > > DL'd Firefox 2.x with basic set-up and will give it a try. | > > > > > > > > > But still wonder why the MSNBC.com web site is the only | one | > > that | > > > > IE6 | > > > > > is | > > > > > > > > > having problems with. | > > > > > > > > > Maybe I'll ask them. (and see what kind of automated, | > > > > international | > > > > > > > reply | > > > > > > > > > bounces back) | > > > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > > > "Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message | > > > > > > > > > news:dv36b4la2ttg23gu21vde4eijblf0qkigh@4ax.com... | > > > > > > > > > > "keith" <uncle@tanoose.nut> wrote: | > > > > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > > > > >Have been using MSNBC news as my homepage for quite a | few | > > > > years. | > > > > > > > Thats MS | > > > > > > > > > as | > > > > > > > > > > >in MicroSoft. | > > > > > > > > > > >W98 didn't seem to care too much for their new and | improved | > > > > > website a | > > > > > > > > > while | > > > > > > > > > > >back and any vid from that site would/will freeze this | > > computer | > > > > > and | > > > > > > > are | > > > > > > > > > > >avoided like the plague. No problem with vids on other | > > news | > > > > > sites. | > > > > > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > > > > >But there has been an odd intermittent problem of late. | > > > > > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > > > > >MSNBC.com site will open just fine when I get there | from | > > the | > > > > > desktop | > > > > > > > IE | > > > > > > > > > icon | > > > > > > > > > > >but "internet explorer cannot open the site..." if I | try to | > > go | > > > > > there | > > > > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > > > > Have you tried the site with Firefox? Firefox version | 2.x | > > will | > > > > > work | > > > > > > > > > > with Win98, and is *much* more up-to-date than any | version | > > of IE | > > > > > that | > > > > > > > > > > will work with Win98. | > > > > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > > > > -- | > > > > > > > > > > Tim Slattery | > > > > > > > > > > MS MVP(Shell/User) | > > > > > > > > > > Slattery_T@bls.gov | > > > > > > > > > > http://members.cox.net/slatteryt | > > > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > | > > > > > | > > > > > | > > > > | > > > > | > > > > | > > | > > | > > | |
Guest Dan Posted September 9, 2008 Posted September 9, 2008 Re: Another nail in the W98 coffin? Keith, you may be infected with software baddies: Follow MEB's advice below as well as I would suggest customizing Internet Explorer settings, blocking 3rd party cookies and not allowing session cookies by using the advanced tab in the latest version of IE for 98, please make sure if you use JAVA that you have the latest JAVA version installed as well as removing all prior versions, etc. Here is a list I would also suggest for starters: 1. Install SpywareBlaster --- it stops a lot of baddies from getting onto Windows 98 2. What antivirus and software firewall are you using -- are they infected? 3. If you have Windows 98 Scripting Host installed --- Remove it 4. Install and use another browser like Mozilla Firefox 2.x latest version 5. Are you using a hardware router and if so -- what kind of router? 6. Are you connected by a wire or wirelessly? 7. Are you using broadband or narrowband? 8. Are you reading email in plain text and blocking remote images? 9. Install Spybot Search and Destroy and do a full scan for baddies 10. Do you notice any other funny or small software in add/remove programs? This should get you started with making your internet browsing experience safer "keith" wrote: > Surprise, surprise. > Guess what has found it's way back onto the Start > Add/Remove list a couple > of times? > Without asking! Without clicking 'Yes' to anything! > Yep! Adobe Flash X. Deleted and uninstalled twice. > Once when I was just checking the list for something and once when I was > checking the list for IT after getting that error message again. > > Could Adobe Reader 5 or MSNBC be doing it automatically if they think I need > it? > Haven't used Adobe Reader in at least a week. > > Will not visit MSNBC for a while and then maybe dump Adobe Reader, too. > Maybe I can figure out how/why it keeps re-insinuating itself. > > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:D2CB9C00-1EBE-4931-887C-AA0DCB2A2269@microsoft.com... > > You are most welcome. It is usually fairly easy to remove software and > then > > do a clean install of the software in Windows 98/98 Second Edition. > > Unfortunately, things can get more complicated in Windows XP with more > junk > > scattered throughout more folders. I like to operate under the mantra if > you > > don't need the program or service then just remove it and add it back on > when > > a web-site comes up that actually needs it and you actually want to use > the > > website. I had to remove Adobe Flash and Macromedia stuff as well as the > > Adobe Reader because they got corrupted a while ago. If Internet Explorer > 6 > > gets corrupted in 98 Second Edition you can always do a repair of IE 6 > that > > should bring it back to its original state. A lot of errors and BSOD's > were > > caused by third party software drivers that were written poorly for 98 > Second > > Edition back around 1998(1999)-2003. > > > > "keith" wrote: > > > > > 'Add/remov'ed Macromedia Flash item and used Adobe site's uninstall > option. > > > Find > Files and folders > 'adobe' and 'flash' still showed some > related > > > items. Mostly in Applications data and assorted Temp files. > > > Just highlighted and deleted the obvious stuff. Left Adobe Reader alone. > > > Almost two days now without that error message. Fingers crossed. > > > Even the larger occasional 'Microsoft IE has encountered a > problem......, > > > send or don't send report' error message seems in remission. > > > > > > Pretty much begs the obvious question - Do I really need the Flash > thing? > > > Have seen 'Flash Player not installed' in a few add spaces on some pages > but > > > other than that I've been doing what I usually do with this machine > without > > > any appearant problems. > > > > > > Looking back over the thread - > > > in a comment I made about Firefox speed I'd meant to say 'hell, this > thing > > > has a distributor and points'. > > > Sometimes I miss tinkering and tweaking those things.A few basic tools > and a > > > couple of beers and all was well. > > > > > > Thanks again. > > > > > > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > news:097E0A63-D373-4A68-A039-960014EFCB43@microsoft.com... > > > > Keith, please remove all adobe and macromedia flash player stuff and > then > > > > reboot and install what you need again. It sounds not too serious but > > > that > > > > the flash player and Adobe Macromedia stuff has been corrupted some > how. > > > > Hopefully, removal will not give you any errors but if so still let us > > > know > > > > in 98 General and we will keep trying to help you with your issues. > > > > > > > > "keith" wrote: > > > > > > > > > PS: Same details for subsequent error messages. > > > > > "keith" <uncle@tanoose.nut> wrote in message > > > > > news:OwlP%23paDJHA.232@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > > > > > Looks like a Flash player - Adobe - Macromedia - flash9f.ocx > problem > > > > > > > > > > > > Error message from last event: > > > > > > Iexplore: > > > > > > This program has performed an illegal operatio and will be shut > down > > > > > > If the problem persists, contact program vendor. > > > > > > > > > > > > Details: > > > > > > IEXPLORE executed an invalid instruction in module FLASH9F.OCX at > > > > > > 017f:30055b27. > > > > > > Registers: > > > > > > EAX=00000008 CS=017f EIP=30055b27 EFLGS=00010202 > > > > > > EBX=041ed060 SS=0187 ESP=0064a130 EBP=0064a4dc > > > > > > ECX=00000008 DS=0187 ESI=0064a140 FS=37cf > > > > > > EDX=00000001 ES=0187 EDI=0064a578 GS=0000 > > > > > > Bytes at CS:EIP: > > > > > > 0f 70 c8 e4 0f 60 c7 0f 70 da e4 0f 68 cf 0f 7f > > > > > > Stack dump: > > > > > > 00000021 041f2e70 0064a578 00f60000 ff000000 ff000000 ff000000 > > > ff010101 > > > > > > ff010101 ff000000 ff010101 ff000000 ff000000 ff000000 ff010101 > > > ff010101 > > > > > > > > > > > > Not sure if 'Details' have been the same for other events. > > > > > > Google search for 'flash9.ocx error' shows lots of assorted forum > > > postings > > > > > > for same/similar problem. > > > > > > Have been reading and printing some of them. > > > > > > Adobe fixes and/or flash9.ocx file renaming trick look promising. > > > > > > Will follow up soon. > > > > > > Still wonder why msnbc.com is ONLY visited site that > > > > > > > > > > > > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > > > > news:68F7E574-0161-4C1F-858B-AA661EAED3F3@microsoft.com... > > > > > > > You're welcome. Please keep us informed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "keith" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Firefox speed may be a bit slower but hard to tell for sure on > > > this > > > > > > > > machine - hell, this thing has a carbureter and points. > > > > > > > > Was having some 'problems' with Firefox and off-loaded it and > > > > > > downloaded > > > > > > > > again. > > > > > > > > Not really any 'problems', just a learning curve issue. > > > > > > > > It's set as default browser for now and got my 'favorites' > copied > > > to > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > Might even try an msnbc.com video - to crash or not to crash. > > > > > > > > Is Java a good thing and/or really necessary? Not sure if it > was > > > > > enabled > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > not or being used by IE6. Never paid much attention. > > > > > > > > All in all, so far so good with Firefox. > > > > > > > > Will also try IE6 again for a while to see about those > 'glitches'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seems some of this thread disappeared. Maybe it went a little > too > > > far > > > > > > > > afield. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks much. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > > > > > > news:BA2E19E8-EAC4-4B77-AD0A-AD017BD2AD0C@microsoft.com... > > > > > > > > > Keith, msnbc.com website had some glitches in their website > > > > > recently. > > > > > > It > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > on their end and nothing to be concerned about. If you feel > > > that IE > > > > > 6 > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > acting poorly all over than you could always do a repair of > > > Internet > > > > > > > > Explorer > > > > > > > > > 6 if we get to that point on Windows 98. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "keith" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, Tim. > > > > > > > > > > Have certainly seen numerous references to Mozilla while > > > surfing > > > > > but > > > > > > > > never > > > > > > > > > > really investigated. > > > > > > > > > > DL'd Firefox 2.x with basic set-up and will give it a try. > > > > > > > > > > But still wonder why the MSNBC.com web site is the only > one > > > that > > > > > IE6 > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > having problems with. > > > > > > > > > > Maybe I'll ask them. (and see what kind of automated, > > > > > international > > > > > > > > reply > > > > > > > > > > bounces back) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > > news:dv36b4la2ttg23gu21vde4eijblf0qkigh@4ax.com... > > > > > > > > > > > "keith" <uncle@tanoose.nut> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Have been using MSNBC news as my homepage for quite a > few > > > > > years. > > > > > > > > Thats MS > > > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > > >in MicroSoft. > > > > > > > > > > > >W98 didn't seem to care too much for their new and > improved > > > > > > website a > > > > > > > > > > while > > > > > > > > > > > >back and any vid from that site would/will freeze this > > > computer > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > >avoided like the plague. No problem with vids on other > > > news > > > > > > sites. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >But there has been an odd intermittent problem of late. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >MSNBC.com site will open just fine when I get there > from > > > the > > > > > > desktop > > > > > > > > IE > > > > > > > > > > icon > > > > > > > > > > > >but "internet explorer cannot open the site..." if I > try to > > > go > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you tried the site with Firefox? Firefox version > 2.x > > > will > > > > > > work > > > > > > > > > > > with Win98, and is *much* more up-to-date than any > version > > > of IE > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > will work with Win98. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > Tim Slattery > > > > > > > > > > > MS MVP(Shell/User) > > > > > > > > > > > Slattery_T@bls.gov > > > > > > > > > > > http://members.cox.net/slatteryt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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