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Guest denmarfl
Posted

My Virus Scan reports a Microsoft High Risks Vulnerability and reports it as

MS04-028. I have done a seach at Microsoft.com for MS04-028...and to be

honest, I have not determined what it is I must do to resolve this risks. I

don't see a Security download, etc.

 

What must I do to resolve this Risks?

Guest Gary S. Terhune
Posted

Re: MS04-028 Running WindowsXP SP3

 

Here? http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS04-028.mspx

 

There are a TON of download links in that article. The article also has a

TON of information about possible problems you may encounter, another KB

article to tell you how to deal with those, etc.

 

But different versions apply to different OSes and OS versions.

 

First read the article ENTIRELY!! Check out the referenced KB833937

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;833987

Go through the list that's provided very carefully and for each item that is

listed that you have, install the associated version of the patch. And do it

very carefully.

 

What Virus Scan are you using and does it report which application it is

that requires the update? I presume you're up to date at Windows Update, or

at least running SP2, which means it isn't Windows itself, so it must be

some other app.

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://grystmill.com

 

"denmarfl" <denmarfl@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:FA24F314-3C22-42B5-A198-B06E15B1A4D5@microsoft.com...

> My Virus Scan reports a Microsoft High Risks Vulnerability and reports it

> as

> MS04-028. I have done a seach at Microsoft.com for MS04-028...and to be

> honest, I have not determined what it is I must do to resolve this risks.

> I

> don't see a Security download, etc.

>

> What must I do to resolve this Risks?

Guest PA Bear [MS MVP]
Posted

Re: MS04-028 Running WindowsXP SP3

 

Does Windows Update offer the machine MS04-028 (KB833987)? If not, you

don't need to install it. Check with your AV app's tech support.

--

~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002

AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net

DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

 

denmarfl wrote:

> My Virus Scan reports a Microsoft High Risks Vulnerability and reports it

> as

> MS04-028. I have done a seach at Microsoft.com for MS04-028...and to be

> honest, I have not determined what it is I must do to resolve this risks.

> I

> don't see a Security download, etc.

>

> What must I do to resolve this Risks?

Guest Gary S. Terhune
Posted

Re: MS04-028 Running WindowsXP SP3

 

Doh! Isn't this what the often repeated Update "Microsoft GDI+ Detection

Tool" is all about?

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/873374

 

WU offers it to you every so often, though I don't know the logic behind its

timing. But if you have any other MS apps than Windows, it's a good idea to

upgrade WU to Microsoft Update.

 

Sorry, "denmarfl", I gave you the long way. Probably much simpler to run the

above Detection Tool.

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://grystmill.com

 

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:OVKDewzBJHA.2712@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> Does Windows Update offer the machine MS04-028 (KB833987)? If not, you

> don't need to install it. Check with your AV app's tech support.

> --

> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002

> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net

> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

>

> denmarfl wrote:

>> My Virus Scan reports a Microsoft High Risks Vulnerability and reports it

>> as

>> MS04-028. I have done a seach at Microsoft.com for MS04-028...and to be

>> honest, I have not determined what it is I must do to resolve this risks.

>> I

>> don't see a Security download, etc.

>>

>> What must I do to resolve this Risks?

>

Guest Anteaus
Posted

RE: MS04-028 Running WindowsXP SP3

 

Might also add that virus scanner wouldn't normally report a vulnerability in

the OS, its job is to find malware. This might be the case with 'security

suite' apps I guess.

 

"denmarfl" wrote:

> My Virus Scan reports a Microsoft High Risks Vulnerability and reports it as

> MS04-028. I have done a seach at Microsoft.com for MS04-028...and to be

> honest, I have not determined what it is I must do to resolve this risks. I

> don't see a Security download, etc.

>

> What must I do to resolve this Risks?

Guest denmarfl
Posted

Re: MS04-028 Running WindowsXP SP3

 

AV is PcCllin. I contacted them they advised Microsoft provides the

information regarding Vulnerability criteria....and they referred me to

Microsoft. The information available for MS04-028 is massive and quite

honestly intimidating as you try to review it. Surely there must be an easy

way to get to the bottom of this alert and resolve the issue(s). Is there?

 

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> Does Windows Update offer the machine MS04-028 (KB833987)? If not, you

> don't need to install it. Check with your AV app's tech support.

> --

> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002

> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net

> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

>

> denmarfl wrote:

> > My Virus Scan reports a Microsoft High Risks Vulnerability and reports it

> > as

> > MS04-028. I have done a seach at Microsoft.com for MS04-028...and to be

> > honest, I have not determined what it is I must do to resolve this risks.

> > I

> > don't see a Security download, etc.

> >

> > What must I do to resolve this Risks?

>

>

Guest PA Bear [MS MVP]
Posted

Re: MS04-028 Running WindowsXP SP3

 

Please state your full Windows version (e.g., WinXP SP3).

 

Repost:

>> Does Windows Update offer the machine MS04-028 (KB833987)?

 

See GAry's reply.

 

denmarfl wrote:

> AV is PcCllin. I contacted them they advised Microsoft provides the

> information regarding Vulnerability criteria....and they referred me to

> Microsoft. The information available for MS04-028 is massive and quite

> honestly intimidating as you try to review it. Surely there must be an

> easy

> way to get to the bottom of this alert and resolve the issue(s). Is

> there?

>

> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

>> Does Windows Update offer the machine MS04-028 (KB833987)? If not, you

>> don't need to install it. Check with your AV app's tech support.

>> --

>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002

>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net

>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

>>

>> denmarfl wrote:

>>> My Virus Scan reports a Microsoft High Risks Vulnerability and reports

>>> it

>>> as

>>> MS04-028. I have done a seach at Microsoft.com for MS04-028...and to be

>>> honest, I have not determined what it is I must do to resolve this

>>> risks.

>>> I don't see a Security download, etc.

>>>

>>> What must I do to resolve this Risks?

Guest denmarfl
Posted

Re: MS04-028 Running WindowsXP SP3

 

Looking at "System Properities":

Microsoft WindowsXP

Home Edition

Version 2002 Service Pack 3

 

When I run Windows Update it shows Current. I ran Express and Custom,

Custom showed a few Windows Updates, none were KB833987

 

I Printed out all 24 pages of Windows Update History, and I did not see

KB833987

 

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> Please state your full Windows version (e.g., WinXP SP3).

>

> Repost:

> >> Does Windows Update offer the machine MS04-028 (KB833987)?

>

> See GAry's reply.

>

> denmarfl wrote:

> > AV is PcCllin. I contacted them they advised Microsoft provides the

> > information regarding Vulnerability criteria....and they referred me to

> > Microsoft. The information available for MS04-028 is massive and quite

> > honestly intimidating as you try to review it. Surely there must be an

> > easy

> > way to get to the bottom of this alert and resolve the issue(s). Is

> > there?

> >

> > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> >> Does Windows Update offer the machine MS04-028 (KB833987)? If not, you

> >> don't need to install it. Check with your AV app's tech support.

> >> --

> >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

> >> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002

> >> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net

> >> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

> >>

> >> denmarfl wrote:

> >>> My Virus Scan reports a Microsoft High Risks Vulnerability and reports

> >>> it

> >>> as

> >>> MS04-028. I have done a seach at Microsoft.com for MS04-028...and to be

> >>> honest, I have not determined what it is I must do to resolve this

> >>> risks.

> >>> I don't see a Security download, etc.

> >>>

> >>> What must I do to resolve this Risks?

>

>

Guest Gary S. Terhune
Posted

Re: MS04-028 Running WindowsXP SP3

 

As PA, suggested, see second post (in reply to PA), for links to the tool

that Windows Update offers up when it thinks you need it. That tool can be

downloaded separately from:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=71CD9E74-7142-4780-83E5-CE54401DA1D1&displaylang=en

 

TinyURL for above link is http://tinyurl.com/5poq2s

 

That tool inspects your system for any app that is vulnerable and needs the

patch. Also, if you have other Microsoft products installed (Office and

related apps are what I'm thinking of), have you upgraded Windows Update to

Microsoft Update?

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://grystmill.com

 

"denmarfl" <denmarfl@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:78686A09-FB63-4D30-9DC4-B41AAB06AD2B@microsoft.com...

> AV is PcCllin. I contacted them they advised Microsoft provides the

> information regarding Vulnerability criteria....and they referred me to

> Microsoft. The information available for MS04-028 is massive and quite

> honestly intimidating as you try to review it. Surely there must be an

> easy

> way to get to the bottom of this alert and resolve the issue(s). Is

> there?

>

> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

>

>> Does Windows Update offer the machine MS04-028 (KB833987)? If not, you

>> don't need to install it. Check with your AV app's tech support.

>> --

>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002

>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net

>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

>>

>> denmarfl wrote:

>> > My Virus Scan reports a Microsoft High Risks Vulnerability and reports

>> > it

>> > as

>> > MS04-028. I have done a seach at Microsoft.com for MS04-028...and to

>> > be

>> > honest, I have not determined what it is I must do to resolve this

>> > risks.

>> > I

>> > don't see a Security download, etc.

>> >

>> > What must I do to resolve this Risks?

>>

>>

Guest Gary S. Terhune
Posted

Re: MS04-028 Running WindowsXP SP3

 

It's listed in my MU History as GDI+ Tool (KB873374) However, if it is

listed in any file on my system except the printout from MU history online,

it's in a different language (computer language) and not readable as plain

text (unless there are translators for such things, I don't know.)

 

In any case, it is downloaded, immediately runs, then disappears itself. No

trace remains except in the History.

 

Note that I downloaded and ran the GDI+ Detection Tool just now, and while

it told me that I have software installed that MAY be vulnerable, it does

not identify the app and simply provides instructions to use Windows Update

and Office Update (or Microsoft Update, which includes both) to check to see

that the proper patches have been installed. In my case, the only vulnerable

item I had was Office XP, and while the MS04-028 update doesn't appear in

the History, I presume it was subsumed into a later Update. All I know is

that none of the Update sites offers the patch and it isn't listed in my WU

history.

 

So, I downloaded the patch suggested for Office XP SP3

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=7D128614-6D34-49DF-8D63-6C17E9A2D312&displaylang=en

 

and ran it, first the full version, which simply prompted Office Setup, so I

clicked OK and downloaded the client version and it gave me a message that

the patch had already been installed or had been included in a later update.

It still does not appear to be listed in my system anywhere, so I presume

the latter. However I don't feel like investigating that possibility (list

all the subsequent patches and then find out what's in them.)

 

In case you're curious, this XP SP2 (now SP3) system was installed at the

end of January, 2007, and Office XP w/ FrontPage a month later. They were

immediately updated using Microsoft Update and kept up to date.

 

So, as PA Bear says, your best recourse is to simply see if Windows Update,

Office Update or Microsoft Update offer any of the MS04-028 patches. Or you

can do what I did and apply any version that applies to any app you have

that's listed in MS04-028 and see what happens.

 

Maybe your AV simply ran the equivalent (or the very same) GDI+ Detection

tool and got the same message I did -- you have apps or OS installed that

MAY be susceptible and you should make sure you're up to date. Windows,

Office and/or Microsoft Update will tell you if any patch is needed.

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://grystmill.com

 

"denmarfl" <denmarfl@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:7F2A9641-57B7-4143-B6E6-6A928A2F027B@microsoft.com...

> Looking at "System Properities":

> Microsoft WindowsXP

> Home Edition

> Version 2002 Service Pack 3

>

> When I run Windows Update it shows Current. I ran Express and Custom,

> Custom showed a few Windows Updates, none were KB833987

>

> I Printed out all 24 pages of Windows Update History, and I did not see

> KB833987

>

> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

>

>> Please state your full Windows version (e.g., WinXP SP3).

>>

>> Repost:

>> >> Does Windows Update offer the machine MS04-028 (KB833987)?

>>

>> See GAry's reply.

>>

>> denmarfl wrote:

>> > AV is PcCllin. I contacted them they advised Microsoft provides the

>> > information regarding Vulnerability criteria....and they referred me to

>> > Microsoft. The information available for MS04-028 is massive and quite

>> > honestly intimidating as you try to review it. Surely there must be an

>> > easy

>> > way to get to the bottom of this alert and resolve the issue(s). Is

>> > there?

>> >

>> > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

>> >> Does Windows Update offer the machine MS04-028 (KB833987)? If not,

>> >> you

>> >> don't need to install it. Check with your AV app's tech support.

>> >> --

>> >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

>> >> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002

>> >> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net

>> >> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

>> >>

>> >> denmarfl wrote:

>> >>> My Virus Scan reports a Microsoft High Risks Vulnerability and

>> >>> reports

>> >>> it

>> >>> as

>> >>> MS04-028. I have done a seach at Microsoft.com for MS04-028...and to

>> >>> be

>> >>> honest, I have not determined what it is I must do to resolve this

>> >>> risks.

>> >>> I don't see a Security download, etc.

>> >>>

>> >>> What must I do to resolve this Risks?

>>

>>

Guest PA Bear [MS MVP]
Posted

Re: MS04-028 Running WindowsXP SP3

 

This fix was included in WinXP SP2 when it was released; therefore it's

included by default in SP3; cf. Non-Affected Software section of

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms04-028.mspx.

 

However, several versions of other MS applications are listed in Affected

Software section of MS04-028, including MS Office. If you have these

applications installed and your default update source is Microsoft Update

(vs Windows Update*), you should be OK. Otherwise, check in at Office

Update ASAP: http://office.microsoft.com/officeupdate/

====================

 

* Microsoft Update offers updates for Windows, Office, and many Windows Live

applications.

--

~PA Bear

 

 

denmarfl wrote:

> Looking at "System Properities":

> Microsoft WindowsXP

> Home Edition

> Version 2002 Service Pack 3

>

> When I run Windows Update it shows Current. I ran Express and Custom,

> Custom showed a few Windows Updates, none were KB833987

>

> I Printed out all 24 pages of Windows Update History, and I did not see

> KB833987

>

> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

>

>> Please state your full Windows version (e.g., WinXP SP3).

>>

>> Repost:

>>>> Does Windows Update offer the machine MS04-028 (KB833987)?

>>

>> See GAry's reply.

>>

>> denmarfl wrote:

>>> AV is PcCllin. I contacted them they advised Microsoft provides the

>>> information regarding Vulnerability criteria....and they referred me to

>>> Microsoft. The information available for MS04-028 is massive and quite

>>> honestly intimidating as you try to review it. Surely there must be an

>>> easy

>>> way to get to the bottom of this alert and resolve the issue(s). Is

>>> there?

>>>

>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

>>>> Does Windows Update offer the machine MS04-028 (KB833987)? If not, you

>>>> don't need to install it. Check with your AV app's tech support.

>>>> --

>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

>>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002

>>>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net

>>>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

>>>>

>>>> denmarfl wrote:

>>>>> My Virus Scan reports a Microsoft High Risks Vulnerability and reports

>>>>> it

>>>>> as

>>>>> MS04-028. I have done a seach at Microsoft.com for MS04-028...and to

>>>>> be

>>>>> honest, I have not determined what it is I must do to resolve this

>>>>> risks.

>>>>> I don't see a Security download, etc.

>>>>>

>>>>> What must I do to resolve this Risks?

Guest denmarfl
Posted

RE: MS04-028 Running WindowsXP SP3

 

I am using PcCillin Internet Security....and I totally understand your

response. However, I use this same AV Software on other PC's and over the

years this vulnerability Scan\Alert on other PC's has proven itself reliable

every time it has reported a vulnerability. Speaking with the techs at

PcCillin they advise this part of their AV Software is actually designed and

built using Microsoft vulnerability specs. It is unfortunate that when a

vulnerability is discovered that they are unable to assist because it is a

Microsoft issue.

 

"Anteaus" wrote:

> Might also add that virus scanner wouldn't normally report a vulnerability in

> the OS, its job is to find malware. This might be the case with 'security

> suite' apps I guess.

>

> "denmarfl" wrote:

>

> > My Virus Scan reports a Microsoft High Risks Vulnerability and reports it as

> > MS04-028. I have done a seach at Microsoft.com for MS04-028...and to be

> > honest, I have not determined what it is I must do to resolve this risks. I

> > don't see a Security download, etc.

> >

> > What must I do to resolve this Risks?

Guest PA Bear [MS MVP]
Posted

Re: MS04-028 Running WindowsXP SP3

 

It all depends on where this supposed vulnerability was detected (e.g., in

System Volume Information; in an email).

 

denmarfl wrote:

> I am using PcCillin Internet Security....and I totally understand your

> response. However, I use this same AV Software on other PC's and over the

> years this vulnerability Scan\Alert on other PC's has proven itself

> reliable

> every time it has reported a vulnerability. Speaking with the techs at

> PcCillin they advise this part of their AV Software is actually designed

> and

> built using Microsoft vulnerability specs. It is unfortunate that when

> a

> vulnerability is discovered that they are unable to assist because it is a

> Microsoft issue.

>

> "Anteaus" wrote:

>

>> Might also add that virus scanner wouldn't normally report a

>> vulnerability

>> in the OS, its job is to find malware. This might be the case with

>> 'security suite' apps I guess.

>>

>> "denmarfl" wrote:

>>

>>> My Virus Scan reports a Microsoft High Risks Vulnerability and reports

>>> it

>>> as MS04-028. I have done a seach at Microsoft.com for MS04-028...and to

>>> be honest, I have not determined what it is I must do to resolve this

>>> risks. I don't see a Security download, etc.

>>>

>>> What must I do to resolve this Risks?

Guest denmarfl
Posted

Re: MS04-028 Running WindowsXP SP3

 

I ran Windows Update and Microsoft Update...I went to Microsoft Office and

ran the update as well at that site....all came back showing my updates were

current.

 

Does Mirosoft make anything that is easy? I downloaded and ran the

gdidettool, it showed

 

"The Software tool has detected that you are running Microsoft software

that may contain a security vulnerability. There are security updates

available from Microsoft that fix rhis security vulnerability.

Would you like to learn more about the security vulnerability as well as the

necessary security updates that address it?...."

 

 

The Word doscument that opens that I thought was going to point me to the

needed security updates was not of much help. It basically advised to run

the Windows\Microsoft\Office Updates.

 

The Word Document did read "How to update your computer with the JPEG

processing (GDI+) security update".

 

I really don't know to do next? I was hoping Specific Security Updates

would be shown that if downloaded and installed would fix the

problem....MS04-028

 

Will appreciate any assistance you can provide

 

 

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> It all depends on where this supposed vulnerability was detected (e.g., in

> System Volume Information; in an email).

>

> denmarfl wrote:

> > I am using PcCillin Internet Security....and I totally understand your

> > response. However, I use this same AV Software on other PC's and over the

> > years this vulnerability Scan\Alert on other PC's has proven itself

> > reliable

> > every time it has reported a vulnerability. Speaking with the techs at

> > PcCillin they advise this part of their AV Software is actually designed

> > and

> > built using Microsoft vulnerability specs. It is unfortunate that when

> > a

> > vulnerability is discovered that they are unable to assist because it is a

> > Microsoft issue.

> >

> > "Anteaus" wrote:

> >

> >> Might also add that virus scanner wouldn't normally report a

> >> vulnerability

> >> in the OS, its job is to find malware. This might be the case with

> >> 'security suite' apps I guess.

> >>

> >> "denmarfl" wrote:

> >>

> >>> My Virus Scan reports a Microsoft High Risks Vulnerability and reports

> >>> it

> >>> as MS04-028. I have done a seach at Microsoft.com for MS04-028...and to

> >>> be honest, I have not determined what it is I must do to resolve this

> >>> risks. I don't see a Security download, etc.

> >>>

> >>> What must I do to resolve this Risks?

>

>

Guest PA Bear [MS MVP]
Posted

Re: MS04-028 Running WindowsXP SP3

 

Free unlimited installation and compatibility support is available for

Windows XP, but only for Service Pack 3 (SP3), until 14 Apr-09. Chat and

e-mail support is available only in the United States and Canada. Go to

http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?gprid=1173 | select Windows XP

| select Windows XP Service Pack 3

--

~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002

AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net

DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

 

denmarfl wrote:

> I ran Windows Update and Microsoft Update...I went to Microsoft Office and

> ran the update as well at that site....all came back showing my updates

> were

> current.

>

> Does Mirosoft make anything that is easy? I downloaded and ran the

> gdidettool, it showed

>

> "The Software tool has detected that you are running Microsoft software

> that may contain a security vulnerability. There are security updates

> available from Microsoft that fix rhis security vulnerability.

> Would you like to learn more about the security vulnerability as well as

> the

> necessary security updates that address it?...."

>

>

> The Word doscument that opens that I thought was going to point me to the

> needed security updates was not of much help. It basically advised to run

> the Windows\Microsoft\Office Updates.

>

> The Word Document did read "How to update your computer with the JPEG

> processing (GDI+) security update".

>

> I really don't know to do next? I was hoping Specific Security Updates

> would be shown that if downloaded and installed would fix the

> problem....MS04-028

>

> Will appreciate any assistance you can provide

>

>

> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

>

>> It all depends on where this supposed vulnerability was detected (e.g.,

>> in

>> System Volume Information; in an email).

>>

>> denmarfl wrote:

>>> I am using PcCillin Internet Security....and I totally understand your

>>> response. However, I use this same AV Software on other PC's and over

>>> the

>>> years this vulnerability Scan\Alert on other PC's has proven itself

>>> reliable

>>> every time it has reported a vulnerability. Speaking with the techs at

>>> PcCillin they advise this part of their AV Software is actually designed

>>> and

>>> built using Microsoft vulnerability specs. It is unfortunate that

>>> when

>>> a

>>> vulnerability is discovered that they are unable to assist because it is

>>> a

>>> Microsoft issue.

>>>

>>> "Anteaus" wrote:

>>>

>>>> Might also add that virus scanner wouldn't normally report a

>>>> vulnerability

>>>> in the OS, its job is to find malware. This might be the case with

>>>> 'security suite' apps I guess.

>>>>

>>>> "denmarfl" wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> My Virus Scan reports a Microsoft High Risks Vulnerability and reports

>>>>> it

>>>>> as MS04-028. I have done a seach at Microsoft.com for MS04-028...and

>>>>> to

>>>>> be honest, I have not determined what it is I must do to resolve this

>>>>> risks. I don't see a Security download, etc.

>>>>>

>>>>> What must I do to resolve this Risks?

Guest Gary S. Terhune
Posted

Re: MS04-028 Running WindowsXP SP3

 

What problem? All you have given us is that PCCillin claims that some

unnamed part of your system is (potentially?) vulnerable to the "High Risk"

described in MS04-028. Is that the most detail you can provide? If you run

the scan again, do you get the notice again? If so, please post the message

here EXACTLY word for word. Because at this moment, the high-rollers are

placing their bets on the system and any affected applications having

already been patched, whether directly or as part of some other Update or as

part of a Service Pack.

 

In any case, I can't give you more advice than I already have, particularly

in yesterday's post of 11:44 AM (Pacific Daylight Time). Either accept that

if you needed the patch it would be offered, or go through MS04-028 line by

line and identify each and every item that is listed as potentially

vulnerable, then download the patch listed for that app (using the consumer

version) and run it. It will either install or it will tell you that it has

already been installed.

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://grystmill.com

 

"denmarfl" <denmarfl@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:EC8CC67E-5A33-4D81-90A6-79B3CE388B7E@microsoft.com...

>I ran Windows Update and Microsoft Update...I went to Microsoft Office and

> ran the update as well at that site....all came back showing my updates

> were

> current.

>

> Does Mirosoft make anything that is easy? I downloaded and ran the

> gdidettool, it showed

>

> "The Software tool has detected that you are running Microsoft software

> that may contain a security vulnerability. There are security updates

> available from Microsoft that fix rhis security vulnerability.

> Would you like to learn more about the security vulnerability as well as

> the

> necessary security updates that address it?...."

>

>

> The Word doscument that opens that I thought was going to point me to the

> needed security updates was not of much help. It basically advised to run

> the Windows\Microsoft\Office Updates.

>

> The Word Document did read "How to update your computer with the JPEG

> processing (GDI+) security update".

>

> I really don't know to do next? I was hoping Specific Security Updates

> would be shown that if downloaded and installed would fix the

> problem....MS04-028

>

> Will appreciate any assistance you can provide

>

>

> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

>

>> It all depends on where this supposed vulnerability was detected (e.g.,

>> in

>> System Volume Information; in an email).

>>

>> denmarfl wrote:

>> > I am using PcCillin Internet Security....and I totally understand your

>> > response. However, I use this same AV Software on other PC's and over

>> > the

>> > years this vulnerability Scan\Alert on other PC's has proven itself

>> > reliable

>> > every time it has reported a vulnerability. Speaking with the techs at

>> > PcCillin they advise this part of their AV Software is actually

>> > designed

>> > and

>> > built using Microsoft vulnerability specs. It is unfortunate that

>> > when

>> > a

>> > vulnerability is discovered that they are unable to assist because it

>> > is a

>> > Microsoft issue.

>> >

>> > "Anteaus" wrote:

>> >

>> >> Might also add that virus scanner wouldn't normally report a

>> >> vulnerability

>> >> in the OS, its job is to find malware. This might be the case with

>> >> 'security suite' apps I guess.

>> >>

>> >> "denmarfl" wrote:

>> >>

>> >>> My Virus Scan reports a Microsoft High Risks Vulnerability and

>> >>> reports

>> >>> it

>> >>> as MS04-028. I have done a seach at Microsoft.com for MS04-028...and

>> >>> to

>> >>> be honest, I have not determined what it is I must do to resolve this

>> >>> risks. I don't see a Security download, etc.

>> >>>

>> >>> What must I do to resolve this Risks?

>>

>>

Guest denmarfl
Posted

Re: MS04-028 Running WindowsXP SP3

 

I took the same steps you followed downloading the both patches; the 1st

simply appeared as a Modify\Repair\uninstall for Office. When I ran the

client downlad I got the same message as you got.

 

I ran the scan again, the only info provided is 1 Vulnerbility Found and it

shows MS04-028...I wish there was more but there is Not.

 

This is what I was referring to when I wrote, Microsoft does not make it

easy.......

 

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

> What problem? All you have given us is that PCCillin claims that some

> unnamed part of your system is (potentially?) vulnerable to the "High Risk"

> described in MS04-028. Is that the most detail you can provide? If you run

> the scan again, do you get the notice again? If so, please post the message

> here EXACTLY word for word. Because at this moment, the high-rollers are

> placing their bets on the system and any affected applications having

> already been patched, whether directly or as part of some other Update or as

> part of a Service Pack.

>

> In any case, I can't give you more advice than I already have, particularly

> in yesterday's post of 11:44 AM (Pacific Daylight Time). Either accept that

> if you needed the patch it would be offered, or go through MS04-028 line by

> line and identify each and every item that is listed as potentially

> vulnerable, then download the patch listed for that app (using the consumer

> version) and run it. It will either install or it will tell you that it has

> already been installed.

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://grystmill.com

>

> "denmarfl" <denmarfl@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:EC8CC67E-5A33-4D81-90A6-79B3CE388B7E@microsoft.com...

> >I ran Windows Update and Microsoft Update...I went to Microsoft Office and

> > ran the update as well at that site....all came back showing my updates

> > were

> > current.

> >

> > Does Mirosoft make anything that is easy? I downloaded and ran the

> > gdidettool, it showed

> >

> > "The Software tool has detected that you are running Microsoft software

> > that may contain a security vulnerability. There are security updates

> > available from Microsoft that fix rhis security vulnerability.

> > Would you like to learn more about the security vulnerability as well as

> > the

> > necessary security updates that address it?...."

> >

> >

> > The Word doscument that opens that I thought was going to point me to the

> > needed security updates was not of much help. It basically advised to run

> > the Windows\Microsoft\Office Updates.

> >

> > The Word Document did read "How to update your computer with the JPEG

> > processing (GDI+) security update".

> >

> > I really don't know to do next? I was hoping Specific Security Updates

> > would be shown that if downloaded and installed would fix the

> > problem....MS04-028

> >

> > Will appreciate any assistance you can provide

> >

> >

> > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> >

> >> It all depends on where this supposed vulnerability was detected (e.g.,

> >> in

> >> System Volume Information; in an email).

> >>

> >> denmarfl wrote:

> >> > I am using PcCillin Internet Security....and I totally understand your

> >> > response. However, I use this same AV Software on other PC's and over

> >> > the

> >> > years this vulnerability Scan\Alert on other PC's has proven itself

> >> > reliable

> >> > every time it has reported a vulnerability. Speaking with the techs at

> >> > PcCillin they advise this part of their AV Software is actually

> >> > designed

> >> > and

> >> > built using Microsoft vulnerability specs. It is unfortunate that

> >> > when

> >> > a

> >> > vulnerability is discovered that they are unable to assist because it

> >> > is a

> >> > Microsoft issue.

> >> >

> >> > "Anteaus" wrote:

> >> >

> >> >> Might also add that virus scanner wouldn't normally report a

> >> >> vulnerability

> >> >> in the OS, its job is to find malware. This might be the case with

> >> >> 'security suite' apps I guess.

> >> >>

> >> >> "denmarfl" wrote:

> >> >>

> >> >>> My Virus Scan reports a Microsoft High Risks Vulnerability and

> >> >>> reports

> >> >>> it

> >> >>> as MS04-028. I have done a seach at Microsoft.com for MS04-028...and

> >> >>> to

> >> >>> be honest, I have not determined what it is I must do to resolve this

> >> >>> risks. I don't see a Security download, etc.

> >> >>>

> >> >>> What must I do to resolve this Risks?

> >>

> >>

>

>

>

Guest PA Bear [MS MVP]
Posted

Re: MS04-028 Running WindowsXP SP3

 

Again, *where* (e.g., in what file and/or folder) is this supposed

vulnerability located?

 

denmarfl wrote:

> I took the same steps you followed downloading the both patches; the 1st

> simply appeared as a Modify\Repair\uninstall for Office. When I ran the

> client downlad I got the same message as you got.

>

> I ran the scan again, the only info provided is 1 Vulnerbility Found and

> it

> shows MS04-028...I wish there was more but there is Not.

>

> This is what I was referring to when I wrote, Microsoft does not make it

> easy.......

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

>

>> What problem? All you have given us is that PCCillin claims that some

>> unnamed part of your system is (potentially?) vulnerable to the "High

>> Risk"

>> described in MS04-028. Is that the most detail you can provide? If you

>> run

>> the scan again, do you get the notice again? If so, please post the

>> message

>> here EXACTLY word for word. Because at this moment, the high-rollers are

>> placing their bets on the system and any affected applications having

>> already been patched, whether directly or as part of some other Update or

>> as part of a Service Pack.

>>

>> In any case, I can't give you more advice than I already have,

>> particularly

>> in yesterday's post of 11:44 AM (Pacific Daylight Time). Either accept

>> that

>> if you needed the patch it would be offered, or go through MS04-028 line

>> by

>> line and identify each and every item that is listed as potentially

>> vulnerable, then download the patch listed for that app (using the

>> consumer

>> version) and run it. It will either install or it will tell you that it

>> has

>> already been installed.

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://grystmill.com

>>

>> "denmarfl" <denmarfl@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:EC8CC67E-5A33-4D81-90A6-79B3CE388B7E@microsoft.com...

>>> I ran Windows Update and Microsoft Update...I went to Microsoft Office

>>> and

>>> ran the update as well at that site....all came back showing my updates

>>> were

>>> current.

>>>

>>> Does Mirosoft make anything that is easy? I downloaded and ran the

>>> gdidettool, it showed

>>>

>>> "The Software tool has detected that you are running Microsoft software

>>> that may contain a security vulnerability. There are security updates

>>> available from Microsoft that fix rhis security vulnerability.

>>> Would you like to learn more about the security vulnerability as well as

>>> the

>>> necessary security updates that address it?...."

>>>

>>>

>>> The Word doscument that opens that I thought was going to point me to

>>> the

>>> needed security updates was not of much help. It basically advised to

>>> run

>>> the Windows\Microsoft\Office Updates.

>>>

>>> The Word Document did read "How to update your computer with the JPEG

>>> processing (GDI+) security update".

>>>

>>> I really don't know to do next? I was hoping Specific Security Updates

>>> would be shown that if downloaded and installed would fix the

>>> problem....MS04-028

>>>

>>> Will appreciate any assistance you can provide

>>>

>>>

>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

>>>

>>>> It all depends on where this supposed vulnerability was detected (e.g.,

>>>> in

>>>> System Volume Information; in an email).

>>>>

>>>> denmarfl wrote:

>>>>> I am using PcCillin Internet Security....and I totally understand your

>>>>> response. However, I use this same AV Software on other PC's and over

>>>>> the

>>>>> years this vulnerability Scan\Alert on other PC's has proven itself

>>>>> reliable

>>>>> every time it has reported a vulnerability. Speaking with the techs

>>>>> at

>>>>> PcCillin they advise this part of their AV Software is actually

>>>>> designed

>>>>> and

>>>>> built using Microsoft vulnerability specs. It is unfortunate that

>>>>> when

>>>>> a

>>>>> vulnerability is discovered that they are unable to assist because it

>>>>> is a

>>>>> Microsoft issue.

>>>>>

>>>>> "Anteaus" wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> Might also add that virus scanner wouldn't normally report a

>>>>>> vulnerability

>>>>>> in the OS, its job is to find malware. This might be the case with

>>>>>> 'security suite' apps I guess.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "denmarfl" wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> My Virus Scan reports a Microsoft High Risks Vulnerability and

>>>>>>> reports

>>>>>>> it

>>>>>>> as MS04-028. I have done a seach at Microsoft.com for

>>>>>>> MS04-028...and

>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>> be honest, I have not determined what it is I must do to resolve

>>>>>>> this

>>>>>>> risks. I don't see a Security download, etc.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> What must I do to resolve this Risks?

Guest Gary S. Terhune
Posted

Re: MS04-028 Running WindowsXP SP3

 

Why do you blame Microsoft when the problem is obviously PCCillan's ignorant

and/or inadequately detailed findings? I have no problem with MS04-028,

though it *is* one of the more complicated articles they ever produced due

to the number of OSes and applications that are affected and the number of

*different* patches that apply, depending on which OS or application, which

version and which SP, are involved.

 

But while the issue is complicated, Microsoft makes it clear in many places

that what you do for this "problem" is go to Windows, Office, or Microsoft

Update and if the appropriate patch is offered install it. Otherwise, assume

it's been installed. If you don't like making that kind of assumption, then

do as I say and go through the whole list and check manually for full

compliance.

 

Personally, having had plenty of experience with Trend Micro, both PC-cillin

and enterprise versions, my opinion of their tech support is almost as low

as you can go. I would suggest that you call them back and tell them that

this Microsoft MVP thinks they have a false positive on their hands, or an

inadequate explanation of the finding, and that they ought to figure it out

immediately and explain it to your satisfaction, or you're switching to a

different vendor. I recommend Avast!. Heck, it's even free.

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://grystmill.com

 

"denmarfl" <denmarfl@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:C50B970D-91EA-4326-B6A4-2016F36C148A@microsoft.com...

>I took the same steps you followed downloading the both patches; the 1st

> simply appeared as a Modify\Repair\uninstall for Office. When I ran the

> client downlad I got the same message as you got.

>

> I ran the scan again, the only info provided is 1 Vulnerbility Found and

> it

> shows MS04-028...I wish there was more but there is Not.

>

> This is what I was referring to when I wrote, Microsoft does not make it

> easy.......

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

>

>> What problem? All you have given us is that PCCillin claims that some

>> unnamed part of your system is (potentially?) vulnerable to the "High

>> Risk"

>> described in MS04-028. Is that the most detail you can provide? If you

>> run

>> the scan again, do you get the notice again? If so, please post the

>> message

>> here EXACTLY word for word. Because at this moment, the high-rollers are

>> placing their bets on the system and any affected applications having

>> already been patched, whether directly or as part of some other Update or

>> as

>> part of a Service Pack.

>>

>> In any case, I can't give you more advice than I already have,

>> particularly

>> in yesterday's post of 11:44 AM (Pacific Daylight Time). Either accept

>> that

>> if you needed the patch it would be offered, or go through MS04-028 line

>> by

>> line and identify each and every item that is listed as potentially

>> vulnerable, then download the patch listed for that app (using the

>> consumer

>> version) and run it. It will either install or it will tell you that it

>> has

>> already been installed.

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://grystmill.com

>>

>> "denmarfl" <denmarfl@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:EC8CC67E-5A33-4D81-90A6-79B3CE388B7E@microsoft.com...

>> >I ran Windows Update and Microsoft Update...I went to Microsoft Office

>> >and

>> > ran the update as well at that site....all came back showing my updates

>> > were

>> > current.

>> >

>> > Does Mirosoft make anything that is easy? I downloaded and ran the

>> > gdidettool, it showed

>> >

>> > "The Software tool has detected that you are running Microsoft software

>> > that may contain a security vulnerability. There are security updates

>> > available from Microsoft that fix rhis security vulnerability.

>> > Would you like to learn more about the security vulnerability as well

>> > as

>> > the

>> > necessary security updates that address it?...."

>> >

>> >

>> > The Word doscument that opens that I thought was going to point me to

>> > the

>> > needed security updates was not of much help. It basically advised to

>> > run

>> > the Windows\Microsoft\Office Updates.

>> >

>> > The Word Document did read "How to update your computer with the JPEG

>> > processing (GDI+) security update".

>> >

>> > I really don't know to do next? I was hoping Specific Security Updates

>> > would be shown that if downloaded and installed would fix the

>> > problem....MS04-028

>> >

>> > Will appreciate any assistance you can provide

>> >

>> >

>> > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

>> >

>> >> It all depends on where this supposed vulnerability was detected

>> >> (e.g.,

>> >> in

>> >> System Volume Information; in an email).

>> >>

>> >> denmarfl wrote:

>> >> > I am using PcCillin Internet Security....and I totally understand

>> >> > your

>> >> > response. However, I use this same AV Software on other PC's and

>> >> > over

>> >> > the

>> >> > years this vulnerability Scan\Alert on other PC's has proven itself

>> >> > reliable

>> >> > every time it has reported a vulnerability. Speaking with the techs

>> >> > at

>> >> > PcCillin they advise this part of their AV Software is actually

>> >> > designed

>> >> > and

>> >> > built using Microsoft vulnerability specs. It is unfortunate that

>> >> > when

>> >> > a

>> >> > vulnerability is discovered that they are unable to assist because

>> >> > it

>> >> > is a

>> >> > Microsoft issue.

>> >> >

>> >> > "Anteaus" wrote:

>> >> >

>> >> >> Might also add that virus scanner wouldn't normally report a

>> >> >> vulnerability

>> >> >> in the OS, its job is to find malware. This might be the case with

>> >> >> 'security suite' apps I guess.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> "denmarfl" wrote:

>> >> >>

>> >> >>> My Virus Scan reports a Microsoft High Risks Vulnerability and

>> >> >>> reports

>> >> >>> it

>> >> >>> as MS04-028. I have done a seach at Microsoft.com for

>> >> >>> MS04-028...and

>> >> >>> to

>> >> >>> be honest, I have not determined what it is I must do to resolve

>> >> >>> this

>> >> >>> risks. I don't see a Security download, etc.

>> >> >>>

>> >> >>> What must I do to resolve this Risks?

>> >>

>> >>

>>

>>

>>

Guest denmarfl
Posted

Re: MS04-028 Running WindowsXP SP3

 

I wish I could answer the question. The AV only reports "1 Vulnerbility

Found and reports it as MS04-028" (Nothing more). When I ran the Microsoft

Tool, it merely reported "The Software tool has detected that you are running

Microsoft software that may contain a security vulnerability". Neither shows

anymore information than what I have written. Sure would be nice if they

did.....

 

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> Again, *where* (e.g., in what file and/or folder) is this supposed

> vulnerability located?

>

> denmarfl wrote:

> > I took the same steps you followed downloading the both patches; the 1st

> > simply appeared as a Modify\Repair\uninstall for Office. When I ran the

> > client downlad I got the same message as you got.

> >

> > I ran the scan again, the only info provided is 1 Vulnerbility Found and

> > it

> > shows MS04-028...I wish there was more but there is Not.

> >

> > This is what I was referring to when I wrote, Microsoft does not make it

> > easy.......

> >

> > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

> >

> >> What problem? All you have given us is that PCCillin claims that some

> >> unnamed part of your system is (potentially?) vulnerable to the "High

> >> Risk"

> >> described in MS04-028. Is that the most detail you can provide? If you

> >> run

> >> the scan again, do you get the notice again? If so, please post the

> >> message

> >> here EXACTLY word for word. Because at this moment, the high-rollers are

> >> placing their bets on the system and any affected applications having

> >> already been patched, whether directly or as part of some other Update or

> >> as part of a Service Pack.

> >>

> >> In any case, I can't give you more advice than I already have,

> >> particularly

> >> in yesterday's post of 11:44 AM (Pacific Daylight Time). Either accept

> >> that

> >> if you needed the patch it would be offered, or go through MS04-028 line

> >> by

> >> line and identify each and every item that is listed as potentially

> >> vulnerable, then download the patch listed for that app (using the

> >> consumer

> >> version) and run it. It will either install or it will tell you that it

> >> has

> >> already been installed.

> >>

> >> --

> >> Gary S. Terhune

> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> >> http://grystmill.com

> >>

> >> "denmarfl" <denmarfl@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> >> news:EC8CC67E-5A33-4D81-90A6-79B3CE388B7E@microsoft.com...

> >>> I ran Windows Update and Microsoft Update...I went to Microsoft Office

> >>> and

> >>> ran the update as well at that site....all came back showing my updates

> >>> were

> >>> current.

> >>>

> >>> Does Mirosoft make anything that is easy? I downloaded and ran the

> >>> gdidettool, it showed

> >>>

> >>> "The Software tool has detected that you are running Microsoft software

> >>> that may contain a security vulnerability. There are security updates

> >>> available from Microsoft that fix rhis security vulnerability.

> >>> Would you like to learn more about the security vulnerability as well as

> >>> the

> >>> necessary security updates that address it?...."

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> The Word doscument that opens that I thought was going to point me to

> >>> the

> >>> needed security updates was not of much help. It basically advised to

> >>> run

> >>> the Windows\Microsoft\Office Updates.

> >>>

> >>> The Word Document did read "How to update your computer with the JPEG

> >>> processing (GDI+) security update".

> >>>

> >>> I really don't know to do next? I was hoping Specific Security Updates

> >>> would be shown that if downloaded and installed would fix the

> >>> problem....MS04-028

> >>>

> >>> Will appreciate any assistance you can provide

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> >>>

> >>>> It all depends on where this supposed vulnerability was detected (e.g.,

> >>>> in

> >>>> System Volume Information; in an email).

> >>>>

> >>>> denmarfl wrote:

> >>>>> I am using PcCillin Internet Security....and I totally understand your

> >>>>> response. However, I use this same AV Software on other PC's and over

> >>>>> the

> >>>>> years this vulnerability Scan\Alert on other PC's has proven itself

> >>>>> reliable

> >>>>> every time it has reported a vulnerability. Speaking with the techs

> >>>>> at

> >>>>> PcCillin they advise this part of their AV Software is actually

> >>>>> designed

> >>>>> and

> >>>>> built using Microsoft vulnerability specs. It is unfortunate that

> >>>>> when

> >>>>> a

> >>>>> vulnerability is discovered that they are unable to assist because it

> >>>>> is a

> >>>>> Microsoft issue.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> "Anteaus" wrote:

> >>>>>

> >>>>>> Might also add that virus scanner wouldn't normally report a

> >>>>>> vulnerability

> >>>>>> in the OS, its job is to find malware. This might be the case with

> >>>>>> 'security suite' apps I guess.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> "denmarfl" wrote:

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>> My Virus Scan reports a Microsoft High Risks Vulnerability and

> >>>>>>> reports

> >>>>>>> it

> >>>>>>> as MS04-028. I have done a seach at Microsoft.com for

> >>>>>>> MS04-028...and

> >>>>>>> to

> >>>>>>> be honest, I have not determined what it is I must do to resolve

> >>>>>>> this

> >>>>>>> risks. I don't see a Security download, etc.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> What must I do to resolve this Risks?

>

>

Guest Gary S. Terhune
Posted

Re: MS04-028 Running WindowsXP SP3

 

I don't know about the PC-Cillan warning, but the Microsoft tool tells you

precisely what to do. The same thing PA, and eventually myself, told you: Go

to Windows Update and/or Office Update (or get both at once with Microsoft

Update.) If it isn't offered by any of the Update sites, it's already been

patched. It's that simple. Downloading and running that patch even told you

that you already have it installed, one way or another. Why is this so

difficult to comprehend?

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://grystmill.com

 

"denmarfl" <denmarfl@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:DCE5092F-70AA-4A2E-A559-8BE61B9F897E@microsoft.com...

>I wish I could answer the question. The AV only reports "1 Vulnerbility

> Found and reports it as MS04-028" (Nothing more). When I ran the

> Microsoft

> Tool, it merely reported "The Software tool has detected that you are

> running

> Microsoft software that may contain a security vulnerability". Neither

> shows

> anymore information than what I have written. Sure would be nice if they

> did.....

>

> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

>

>> Again, *where* (e.g., in what file and/or folder) is this supposed

>> vulnerability located?

>>

>> denmarfl wrote:

>> > I took the same steps you followed downloading the both patches; the

>> > 1st

>> > simply appeared as a Modify\Repair\uninstall for Office. When I ran

>> > the

>> > client downlad I got the same message as you got.

>> >

>> > I ran the scan again, the only info provided is 1 Vulnerbility Found

>> > and

>> > it

>> > shows MS04-028...I wish there was more but there is Not.

>> >

>> > This is what I was referring to when I wrote, Microsoft does not make

>> > it

>> > easy.......

>> >

>> > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

>> >

>> >> What problem? All you have given us is that PCCillin claims that some

>> >> unnamed part of your system is (potentially?) vulnerable to the "High

>> >> Risk"

>> >> described in MS04-028. Is that the most detail you can provide? If you

>> >> run

>> >> the scan again, do you get the notice again? If so, please post the

>> >> message

>> >> here EXACTLY word for word. Because at this moment, the high-rollers

>> >> are

>> >> placing their bets on the system and any affected applications having

>> >> already been patched, whether directly or as part of some other Update

>> >> or

>> >> as part of a Service Pack.

>> >>

>> >> In any case, I can't give you more advice than I already have,

>> >> particularly

>> >> in yesterday's post of 11:44 AM (Pacific Daylight Time). Either accept

>> >> that

>> >> if you needed the patch it would be offered, or go through MS04-028

>> >> line

>> >> by

>> >> line and identify each and every item that is listed as potentially

>> >> vulnerable, then download the patch listed for that app (using the

>> >> consumer

>> >> version) and run it. It will either install or it will tell you that

>> >> it

>> >> has

>> >> already been installed.

>> >>

>> >> --

>> >> Gary S. Terhune

>> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> >> http://grystmill.com

>> >>

>> >> "denmarfl" <denmarfl@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> >> news:EC8CC67E-5A33-4D81-90A6-79B3CE388B7E@microsoft.com...

>> >>> I ran Windows Update and Microsoft Update...I went to Microsoft

>> >>> Office

>> >>> and

>> >>> ran the update as well at that site....all came back showing my

>> >>> updates

>> >>> were

>> >>> current.

>> >>>

>> >>> Does Mirosoft make anything that is easy? I downloaded and ran the

>> >>> gdidettool, it showed

>> >>>

>> >>> "The Software tool has detected that you are running Microsoft

>> >>> software

>> >>> that may contain a security vulnerability. There are security

>> >>> updates

>> >>> available from Microsoft that fix rhis security vulnerability.

>> >>> Would you like to learn more about the security vulnerability as well

>> >>> as

>> >>> the

>> >>> necessary security updates that address it?...."

>> >>>

>> >>>

>> >>> The Word doscument that opens that I thought was going to point me to

>> >>> the

>> >>> needed security updates was not of much help. It basically advised

>> >>> to

>> >>> run

>> >>> the Windows\Microsoft\Office Updates.

>> >>>

>> >>> The Word Document did read "How to update your computer with the JPEG

>> >>> processing (GDI+) security update".

>> >>>

>> >>> I really don't know to do next? I was hoping Specific Security

>> >>> Updates

>> >>> would be shown that if downloaded and installed would fix the

>> >>> problem....MS04-028

>> >>>

>> >>> Will appreciate any assistance you can provide

>> >>>

>> >>>

>> >>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

>> >>>

>> >>>> It all depends on where this supposed vulnerability was detected

>> >>>> (e.g.,

>> >>>> in

>> >>>> System Volume Information; in an email).

>> >>>>

>> >>>> denmarfl wrote:

>> >>>>> I am using PcCillin Internet Security....and I totally understand

>> >>>>> your

>> >>>>> response. However, I use this same AV Software on other PC's and

>> >>>>> over

>> >>>>> the

>> >>>>> years this vulnerability Scan\Alert on other PC's has proven itself

>> >>>>> reliable

>> >>>>> every time it has reported a vulnerability. Speaking with the

>> >>>>> techs

>> >>>>> at

>> >>>>> PcCillin they advise this part of their AV Software is actually

>> >>>>> designed

>> >>>>> and

>> >>>>> built using Microsoft vulnerability specs. It is unfortunate

>> >>>>> that

>> >>>>> when

>> >>>>> a

>> >>>>> vulnerability is discovered that they are unable to assist because

>> >>>>> it

>> >>>>> is a

>> >>>>> Microsoft issue.

>> >>>>>

>> >>>>> "Anteaus" wrote:

>> >>>>>

>> >>>>>> Might also add that virus scanner wouldn't normally report a

>> >>>>>> vulnerability

>> >>>>>> in the OS, its job is to find malware. This might be the case with

>> >>>>>> 'security suite' apps I guess.

>> >>>>>>

>> >>>>>> "denmarfl" wrote:

>> >>>>>>

>> >>>>>>> My Virus Scan reports a Microsoft High Risks Vulnerability and

>> >>>>>>> reports

>> >>>>>>> it

>> >>>>>>> as MS04-028. I have done a seach at Microsoft.com for

>> >>>>>>> MS04-028...and

>> >>>>>>> to

>> >>>>>>> be honest, I have not determined what it is I must do to resolve

>> >>>>>>> this

>> >>>>>>> risks. I don't see a Security download, etc.

>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>> What must I do to resolve this Risks?

>>

>>

Guest denmarfl
Posted

Re: MS04-028 Running WindowsXP SP3

 

Please understand I really do appreciate your assistance...but not everyone

has the same knowledge and understanding that you have. It appears to me

that the tools are providing contradictory results. The Microsoft tool

agrees with the AV finding, a Vulnerability exists. When you run the patch

it says it has already been installed advising whatever is lacking as to

updates, has been patched and the problem is no longer. Now whereas I can

accept that might be OK as to what the AV displays, that is, ignore the AV

findings based on the Patch advices, I have a more difficult time accepting

it based on the Microsoft Tool Findings, which is, a Vulnerability exists.

Why would the Mocrosoft Detection tool on the one hand show a vulnerability

and then on the other hand 9Patch) show the problem has been corrected with

an already installed patch. Now to my level of knowledge, puting it in those

terms, it is not comprehendable........

 

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

> I don't know about the PC-Cillan warning, but the Microsoft tool tells you

> precisely what to do. The same thing PA, and eventually myself, told you: Go

> to Windows Update and/or Office Update (or get both at once with Microsoft

> Update.) If it isn't offered by any of the Update sites, it's already been

> patched. It's that simple. Downloading and running that patch even told you

> that you already have it installed, one way or another. Why is this so

> difficult to comprehend?

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://grystmill.com

>

> "denmarfl" <denmarfl@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:DCE5092F-70AA-4A2E-A559-8BE61B9F897E@microsoft.com...

> >I wish I could answer the question. The AV only reports "1 Vulnerbility

> > Found and reports it as MS04-028" (Nothing more). When I ran the

> > Microsoft

> > Tool, it merely reported "The Software tool has detected that you are

> > running

> > Microsoft software that may contain a security vulnerability". Neither

> > shows

> > anymore information than what I have written. Sure would be nice if they

> > did.....

> >

> > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> >

> >> Again, *where* (e.g., in what file and/or folder) is this supposed

> >> vulnerability located?

> >>

> >> denmarfl wrote:

> >> > I took the same steps you followed downloading the both patches; the

> >> > 1st

> >> > simply appeared as a Modify\Repair\uninstall for Office. When I ran

> >> > the

> >> > client downlad I got the same message as you got.

> >> >

> >> > I ran the scan again, the only info provided is 1 Vulnerbility Found

> >> > and

> >> > it

> >> > shows MS04-028...I wish there was more but there is Not.

> >> >

> >> > This is what I was referring to when I wrote, Microsoft does not make

> >> > it

> >> > easy.......

> >> >

> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

> >> >

> >> >> What problem? All you have given us is that PCCillin claims that some

> >> >> unnamed part of your system is (potentially?) vulnerable to the "High

> >> >> Risk"

> >> >> described in MS04-028. Is that the most detail you can provide? If you

> >> >> run

> >> >> the scan again, do you get the notice again? If so, please post the

> >> >> message

> >> >> here EXACTLY word for word. Because at this moment, the high-rollers

> >> >> are

> >> >> placing their bets on the system and any affected applications having

> >> >> already been patched, whether directly or as part of some other Update

> >> >> or

> >> >> as part of a Service Pack.

> >> >>

> >> >> In any case, I can't give you more advice than I already have,

> >> >> particularly

> >> >> in yesterday's post of 11:44 AM (Pacific Daylight Time). Either accept

> >> >> that

> >> >> if you needed the patch it would be offered, or go through MS04-028

> >> >> line

> >> >> by

> >> >> line and identify each and every item that is listed as potentially

> >> >> vulnerable, then download the patch listed for that app (using the

> >> >> consumer

> >> >> version) and run it. It will either install or it will tell you that

> >> >> it

> >> >> has

> >> >> already been installed.

> >> >>

> >> >> --

> >> >> Gary S. Terhune

> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> >> >> http://grystmill.com

> >> >>

> >> >> "denmarfl" <denmarfl@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> >> >> news:EC8CC67E-5A33-4D81-90A6-79B3CE388B7E@microsoft.com...

> >> >>> I ran Windows Update and Microsoft Update...I went to Microsoft

> >> >>> Office

> >> >>> and

> >> >>> ran the update as well at that site....all came back showing my

> >> >>> updates

> >> >>> were

> >> >>> current.

> >> >>>

> >> >>> Does Mirosoft make anything that is easy? I downloaded and ran the

> >> >>> gdidettool, it showed

> >> >>>

> >> >>> "The Software tool has detected that you are running Microsoft

> >> >>> software

> >> >>> that may contain a security vulnerability. There are security

> >> >>> updates

> >> >>> available from Microsoft that fix rhis security vulnerability.

> >> >>> Would you like to learn more about the security vulnerability as well

> >> >>> as

> >> >>> the

> >> >>> necessary security updates that address it?...."

> >> >>>

> >> >>>

> >> >>> The Word doscument that opens that I thought was going to point me to

> >> >>> the

> >> >>> needed security updates was not of much help. It basically advised

> >> >>> to

> >> >>> run

> >> >>> the Windows\Microsoft\Office Updates.

> >> >>>

> >> >>> The Word Document did read "How to update your computer with the JPEG

> >> >>> processing (GDI+) security update".

> >> >>>

> >> >>> I really don't know to do next? I was hoping Specific Security

> >> >>> Updates

> >> >>> would be shown that if downloaded and installed would fix the

> >> >>> problem....MS04-028

> >> >>>

> >> >>> Will appreciate any assistance you can provide

> >> >>>

> >> >>>

> >> >>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> >> >>>

> >> >>>> It all depends on where this supposed vulnerability was detected

> >> >>>> (e.g.,

> >> >>>> in

> >> >>>> System Volume Information; in an email).

> >> >>>>

> >> >>>> denmarfl wrote:

> >> >>>>> I am using PcCillin Internet Security....and I totally understand

> >> >>>>> your

> >> >>>>> response. However, I use this same AV Software on other PC's and

> >> >>>>> over

> >> >>>>> the

> >> >>>>> years this vulnerability Scan\Alert on other PC's has proven itself

> >> >>>>> reliable

> >> >>>>> every time it has reported a vulnerability. Speaking with the

> >> >>>>> techs

> >> >>>>> at

> >> >>>>> PcCillin they advise this part of their AV Software is actually

> >> >>>>> designed

> >> >>>>> and

> >> >>>>> built using Microsoft vulnerability specs. It is unfortunate

> >> >>>>> that

> >> >>>>> when

> >> >>>>> a

> >> >>>>> vulnerability is discovered that they are unable to assist because

> >> >>>>> it

> >> >>>>> is a

> >> >>>>> Microsoft issue.

> >> >>>>>

> >> >>>>> "Anteaus" wrote:

> >> >>>>>

> >> >>>>>> Might also add that virus scanner wouldn't normally report a

> >> >>>>>> vulnerability

> >> >>>>>> in the OS, its job is to find malware. This might be the case with

> >> >>>>>> 'security suite' apps I guess.

> >> >>>>>>

> >> >>>>>> "denmarfl" wrote:

> >> >>>>>>

> >> >>>>>>> My Virus Scan reports a Microsoft High Risks Vulnerability and

> >> >>>>>>> reports

> >> >>>>>>> it

> >> >>>>>>> as MS04-028. I have done a seach at Microsoft.com for

> >> >>>>>>> MS04-028...and

> >> >>>>>>> to

> >> >>>>>>> be honest, I have not determined what it is I must do to resolve

> >> >>>>>>> this

> >> >>>>>>> risks. I don't see a Security download, etc.

> >> >>>>>>>

> >> >>>>>>> What must I do to resolve this Risks?

> >>

> >>

>

>

>

Guest PA Bear [MS MVP]
Posted

Re: MS04-028 Running WindowsXP SP3

 

Start a free Windows Update support incident request:

https://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?gprid=6527

 

Support for Windows Update:

http://support.microsoft.com/gp/wusupport

 

For home users, no-charge support is available by calling 1-866-PCSAFETY in

the United States and in Canada or by contacting your local Microsoft

subsidiary. There is no-charge for support calls that are associated with

security updates. When you call, clearly state that your problem is related

to a Security Update and cite the update's KB number (e.g., KB833987).

 

Or...

 

Free unlimited installation and compatibility support is available for

Windows XP, but only for Service Pack 3 (SP3), until 14 Apr-09. Chat and

e-mail support is available only in the United States and Canada. Go to

http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?gprid=1173 | select "Windows

XP" then select "Windows XP Service Pack 3"

--

~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002

AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net

DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

 

denmarfl wrote:

> Please understand I really do appreciate your assistance...but not

> everyone

> has the same knowledge and understanding that you have. It appears to me

> that the tools are providing contradictory results. The Microsoft tool

> agrees with the AV finding, a Vulnerability exists. When you run the

> patch

> it says it has already been installed advising whatever is lacking as to

> updates, has been patched and the problem is no longer. Now whereas I can

> accept that might be OK as to what the AV displays, that is, ignore the AV

> findings based on the Patch advices, I have a more difficult time

> accepting

> it based on the Microsoft Tool Findings, which is, a Vulnerability exists.

> Why would the Mocrosoft Detection tool on the one hand show a

> vulnerability

> and then on the other hand 9Patch) show the problem has been corrected

> with

> an already installed patch. Now to my level of knowledge, puting it in

> those terms, it is not comprehendable........

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

>

>> I don't know about the PC-Cillan warning, but the Microsoft tool tells

>> you

>> precisely what to do. The same thing PA, and eventually myself, told you:

>> Go to Windows Update and/or Office Update (or get both at once with

>> Microsoft Update.) If it isn't offered by any of the Update sites, it's

>> already been patched. It's that simple. Downloading and running that

>> patch

>> even told you that you already have it installed, one way or another. Why

>> is this so difficult to comprehend?

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://grystmill.com

>>

>> "denmarfl" <denmarfl@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:DCE5092F-70AA-4A2E-A559-8BE61B9F897E@microsoft.com...

>>> I wish I could answer the question. The AV only reports "1 Vulnerbility

>>> Found and reports it as MS04-028" (Nothing more). When I ran the

>>> Microsoft

>>> Tool, it merely reported "The Software tool has detected that you are

>>> running

>>> Microsoft software that may contain a security vulnerability". Neither

>>> shows

>>> anymore information than what I have written. Sure would be nice if

>>> they

>>> did.....

>>>

>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

>>>

>>>> Again, *where* (e.g., in what file and/or folder) is this supposed

>>>> vulnerability located?

>>>>

>>>> denmarfl wrote:

>>>>> I took the same steps you followed downloading the both patches; the

>>>>> 1st

>>>>> simply appeared as a Modify\Repair\uninstall for Office. When I ran

>>>>> the

>>>>> client downlad I got the same message as you got.

>>>>>

>>>>> I ran the scan again, the only info provided is 1 Vulnerbility Found

>>>>> and

>>>>> it

>>>>> shows MS04-028...I wish there was more but there is Not.

>>>>>

>>>>> This is what I was referring to when I wrote, Microsoft does not make

>>>>> it

>>>>> easy.......

>>>>>

>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> What problem? All you have given us is that PCCillin claims that some

>>>>>> unnamed part of your system is (potentially?) vulnerable to the "High

>>>>>> Risk"

>>>>>> described in MS04-028. Is that the most detail you can provide? If

>>>>>> you

>>>>>> run

>>>>>> the scan again, do you get the notice again? If so, please post the

>>>>>> message

>>>>>> here EXACTLY word for word. Because at this moment, the high-rollers

>>>>>> are

>>>>>> placing their bets on the system and any affected applications having

>>>>>> already been patched, whether directly or as part of some other

>>>>>> Update

>>>>>> or

>>>>>> as part of a Service Pack.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> In any case, I can't give you more advice than I already have,

>>>>>> particularly

>>>>>> in yesterday's post of 11:44 AM (Pacific Daylight Time). Either

>>>>>> accept

>>>>>> that

>>>>>> if you needed the patch it would be offered, or go through MS04-028

>>>>>> line

>>>>>> by

>>>>>> line and identify each and every item that is listed as potentially

>>>>>> vulnerable, then download the patch listed for that app (using the

>>>>>> consumer

>>>>>> version) and run it. It will either install or it will tell you that

>>>>>> it

>>>>>> has

>>>>>> already been installed.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> --

>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>>>> http://grystmill.com

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "denmarfl" <denmarfl@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:EC8CC67E-5A33-4D81-90A6-79B3CE388B7E@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>> I ran Windows Update and Microsoft Update...I went to Microsoft

>>>>>>> Office

>>>>>>> and

>>>>>>> ran the update as well at that site....all came back showing my

>>>>>>> updates

>>>>>>> were

>>>>>>> current.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Does Mirosoft make anything that is easy? I downloaded and ran the

>>>>>>> gdidettool, it showed

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "The Software tool has detected that you are running Microsoft

>>>>>>> software

>>>>>>> that may contain a security vulnerability. There are security

>>>>>>> updates

>>>>>>> available from Microsoft that fix rhis security vulnerability.

>>>>>>> Would you like to learn more about the security vulnerability as

>>>>>>> well

>>>>>>> as

>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>> necessary security updates that address it?...."

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> The Word doscument that opens that I thought was going to point me

>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>> needed security updates was not of much help. It basically advised

>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>> run

>>>>>>> the Windows\Microsoft\Office Updates.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> The Word Document did read "How to update your computer with the

>>>>>>> JPEG

>>>>>>> processing (GDI+) security update".

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I really don't know to do next? I was hoping Specific Security

>>>>>>> Updates

>>>>>>> would be shown that if downloaded and installed would fix the

>>>>>>> problem....MS04-028

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Will appreciate any assistance you can provide

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> It all depends on where this supposed vulnerability was detected

>>>>>>>> (e.g.,

>>>>>>>> in

>>>>>>>> System Volume Information; in an email).

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> denmarfl wrote:

>>>>>>>>> I am using PcCillin Internet Security....and I totally understand

>>>>>>>>> your

>>>>>>>>> response. However, I use this same AV Software on other PC's and

>>>>>>>>> over

>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>> years this vulnerability Scan\Alert on other PC's has proven

>>>>>>>>> itself

>>>>>>>>> reliable

>>>>>>>>> every time it has reported a vulnerability. Speaking with the

>>>>>>>>> techs

>>>>>>>>> at

>>>>>>>>> PcCillin they advise this part of their AV Software is actually

>>>>>>>>> designed

>>>>>>>>> and

>>>>>>>>> built using Microsoft vulnerability specs. It is unfortunate

>>>>>>>>> that

>>>>>>>>> when

>>>>>>>>> a

>>>>>>>>> vulnerability is discovered that they are unable to assist because

>>>>>>>>> it

>>>>>>>>> is a

>>>>>>>>> Microsoft issue.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> "Anteaus" wrote:

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Might also add that virus scanner wouldn't normally report a

>>>>>>>>>> vulnerability

>>>>>>>>>> in the OS, its job is to find malware. This might be the case

>>>>>>>>>> with

>>>>>>>>>> 'security suite' apps I guess.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> "denmarfl" wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> My Virus Scan reports a Microsoft High Risks Vulnerability and

>>>>>>>>>>> reports

>>>>>>>>>>> it

>>>>>>>>>>> as MS04-028. I have done a seach at Microsoft.com for

>>>>>>>>>>> MS04-028...and

>>>>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>>>> be honest, I have not determined what it is I must do to resolve

>>>>>>>>>>> this

>>>>>>>>>>> risks. I don't see a Security download, etc.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> What must I do to resolve this Risks?

Guest Gary S. Terhune
Posted

Re: MS04-028 Running WindowsXP SP3

 

This is the message from the GDI+ Detection Tool. All UPPER CASE indicates

my emphasis, which emphasis is not in the original:

 

"The software tools has detected that you are running software that MAY

contain a security vulnerability. There are security updates available from

Microsoft that fix this security vulnerability."

 

That sentence explicitly implies that you are running software that MAY NOT

contain the vulnerability. It is made even more clear in the accompanying

documentation that this would be the case if the system has already been

patched, nullifying the vulnerabilities(s). I see no conflict.

 

The problem, I think, is that you expect the GDI+ Detection Tool to detect

whether or not the patch has been applied that nullifies the vulnerability.

The tool doesn't do that. It doesn't even detect if any vulnerability

exists. It simply looks to see if you have software that MAY be vulnerable,

(and I'll interject here that you might, for example, have Office XP

installed, but not the specific component of Office that has the

vulnerability). It simply tells you if that software is present, not whether

it actually contains the vulnerability nor whether, IF it has the

vulnerability, it's been patched.

 

Say you heard about a recall that MAY apply to your car. You go online to

the company's site, you enter your VIN number and it says, "You drive a

vehicle that may have the defective part. There are free replacement parts

available if your part is defective. Follow these instructions to find out

if you have the defective part, and to obtain a replacement if it turns out

that you do. If inspection results in a finding that you do NOT have the

defective part, then you do not need to reinstall the part." The

instructions say to take the vehicle to your dealership and have them

inspect it.

 

Now, if your specific vehicle just happens to not have the defective part,

there are three plausible reasons I can think of: 1. Only some certain batch

of parts were defective and your vehicle didn't get the part from that

batch. 2. Your dealership replaced the part as part of regular maintenance

and you simply weren't told about it. 3. You *did* have the defective part,

but it was only one component of a larger component that had been replaced,

including the replacement part. (Think "Service Pack".)

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://grystmill.com

 

"denmarfl" <denmarfl@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:30AE7D39-5945-4278-B917-9E3385B9F6F5@microsoft.com...

> Please understand I really do appreciate your assistance...but not

> everyone

> has the same knowledge and understanding that you have. It appears to me

> that the tools are providing contradictory results. The Microsoft tool

> agrees with the AV finding, a Vulnerability exists. When you run the

> patch

> it says it has already been installed advising whatever is lacking as to

> updates, has been patched and the problem is no longer. Now whereas I can

> accept that might be OK as to what the AV displays, that is, ignore the AV

> findings based on the Patch advices, I have a more difficult time

> accepting

> it based on the Microsoft Tool Findings, which is, a Vulnerability exists.

> Why would the Mocrosoft Detection tool on the one hand show a

> vulnerability

> and then on the other hand 9Patch) show the problem has been corrected

> with

> an already installed patch. Now to my level of knowledge, puting it in

> those

> terms, it is not comprehendable........

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

>

>> I don't know about the PC-Cillan warning, but the Microsoft tool tells

>> you

>> precisely what to do. The same thing PA, and eventually myself, told you:

>> Go

>> to Windows Update and/or Office Update (or get both at once with

>> Microsoft

>> Update.) If it isn't offered by any of the Update sites, it's already

>> been

>> patched. It's that simple. Downloading and running that patch even told

>> you

>> that you already have it installed, one way or another. Why is this so

>> difficult to comprehend?

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://grystmill.com

>>

>> "denmarfl" <denmarfl@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:DCE5092F-70AA-4A2E-A559-8BE61B9F897E@microsoft.com...

>> >I wish I could answer the question. The AV only reports "1 Vulnerbility

>> > Found and reports it as MS04-028" (Nothing more). When I ran the

>> > Microsoft

>> > Tool, it merely reported "The Software tool has detected that you are

>> > running

>> > Microsoft software that may contain a security vulnerability". Neither

>> > shows

>> > anymore information than what I have written. Sure would be nice if

>> > they

>> > did.....

>> >

>> > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

>> >

>> >> Again, *where* (e.g., in what file and/or folder) is this supposed

>> >> vulnerability located?

>> >>

>> >> denmarfl wrote:

>> >> > I took the same steps you followed downloading the both patches; the

>> >> > 1st

>> >> > simply appeared as a Modify\Repair\uninstall for Office. When I ran

>> >> > the

>> >> > client downlad I got the same message as you got.

>> >> >

>> >> > I ran the scan again, the only info provided is 1 Vulnerbility Found

>> >> > and

>> >> > it

>> >> > shows MS04-028...I wish there was more but there is Not.

>> >> >

>> >> > This is what I was referring to when I wrote, Microsoft does not

>> >> > make

>> >> > it

>> >> > easy.......

>> >> >

>> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

>> >> >

>> >> >> What problem? All you have given us is that PCCillin claims that

>> >> >> some

>> >> >> unnamed part of your system is (potentially?) vulnerable to the

>> >> >> "High

>> >> >> Risk"

>> >> >> described in MS04-028. Is that the most detail you can provide? If

>> >> >> you

>> >> >> run

>> >> >> the scan again, do you get the notice again? If so, please post the

>> >> >> message

>> >> >> here EXACTLY word for word. Because at this moment, the

>> >> >> high-rollers

>> >> >> are

>> >> >> placing their bets on the system and any affected applications

>> >> >> having

>> >> >> already been patched, whether directly or as part of some other

>> >> >> Update

>> >> >> or

>> >> >> as part of a Service Pack.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> In any case, I can't give you more advice than I already have,

>> >> >> particularly

>> >> >> in yesterday's post of 11:44 AM (Pacific Daylight Time). Either

>> >> >> accept

>> >> >> that

>> >> >> if you needed the patch it would be offered, or go through MS04-028

>> >> >> line

>> >> >> by

>> >> >> line and identify each and every item that is listed as potentially

>> >> >> vulnerable, then download the patch listed for that app (using the

>> >> >> consumer

>> >> >> version) and run it. It will either install or it will tell you

>> >> >> that

>> >> >> it

>> >> >> has

>> >> >> already been installed.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> --

>> >> >> Gary S. Terhune

>> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> >> >> http://grystmill.com

>> >> >>

>> >> >> "denmarfl" <denmarfl@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> >> >> news:EC8CC67E-5A33-4D81-90A6-79B3CE388B7E@microsoft.com...

>> >> >>> I ran Windows Update and Microsoft Update...I went to Microsoft

>> >> >>> Office

>> >> >>> and

>> >> >>> ran the update as well at that site....all came back showing my

>> >> >>> updates

>> >> >>> were

>> >> >>> current.

>> >> >>>

>> >> >>> Does Mirosoft make anything that is easy? I downloaded and ran

>> >> >>> the

>> >> >>> gdidettool, it showed

>> >> >>>

>> >> >>> "The Software tool has detected that you are running Microsoft

>> >> >>> software

>> >> >>> that may contain a security vulnerability. There are security

>> >> >>> updates

>> >> >>> available from Microsoft that fix rhis security vulnerability.

>> >> >>> Would you like to learn more about the security vulnerability as

>> >> >>> well

>> >> >>> as

>> >> >>> the

>> >> >>> necessary security updates that address it?...."

>> >> >>>

>> >> >>>

>> >> >>> The Word doscument that opens that I thought was going to point me

>> >> >>> to

>> >> >>> the

>> >> >>> needed security updates was not of much help. It basically

>> >> >>> advised

>> >> >>> to

>> >> >>> run

>> >> >>> the Windows\Microsoft\Office Updates.

>> >> >>>

>> >> >>> The Word Document did read "How to update your computer with the

>> >> >>> JPEG

>> >> >>> processing (GDI+) security update".

>> >> >>>

>> >> >>> I really don't know to do next? I was hoping Specific Security

>> >> >>> Updates

>> >> >>> would be shown that if downloaded and installed would fix the

>> >> >>> problem....MS04-028

>> >> >>>

>> >> >>> Will appreciate any assistance you can provide

>> >> >>>

>> >> >>>

>> >> >>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

>> >> >>>

>> >> >>>> It all depends on where this supposed vulnerability was detected

>> >> >>>> (e.g.,

>> >> >>>> in

>> >> >>>> System Volume Information; in an email).

>> >> >>>>

>> >> >>>> denmarfl wrote:

>> >> >>>>> I am using PcCillin Internet Security....and I totally

>> >> >>>>> understand

>> >> >>>>> your

>> >> >>>>> response. However, I use this same AV Software on other PC's

>> >> >>>>> and

>> >> >>>>> over

>> >> >>>>> the

>> >> >>>>> years this vulnerability Scan\Alert on other PC's has proven

>> >> >>>>> itself

>> >> >>>>> reliable

>> >> >>>>> every time it has reported a vulnerability. Speaking with the

>> >> >>>>> techs

>> >> >>>>> at

>> >> >>>>> PcCillin they advise this part of their AV Software is actually

>> >> >>>>> designed

>> >> >>>>> and

>> >> >>>>> built using Microsoft vulnerability specs. It is unfortunate

>> >> >>>>> that

>> >> >>>>> when

>> >> >>>>> a

>> >> >>>>> vulnerability is discovered that they are unable to assist

>> >> >>>>> because

>> >> >>>>> it

>> >> >>>>> is a

>> >> >>>>> Microsoft issue.

>> >> >>>>>

>> >> >>>>> "Anteaus" wrote:

>> >> >>>>>

>> >> >>>>>> Might also add that virus scanner wouldn't normally report a

>> >> >>>>>> vulnerability

>> >> >>>>>> in the OS, its job is to find malware. This might be the case

>> >> >>>>>> with

>> >> >>>>>> 'security suite' apps I guess.

>> >> >>>>>>

>> >> >>>>>> "denmarfl" wrote:

>> >> >>>>>>

>> >> >>>>>>> My Virus Scan reports a Microsoft High Risks Vulnerability and

>> >> >>>>>>> reports

>> >> >>>>>>> it

>> >> >>>>>>> as MS04-028. I have done a seach at Microsoft.com for

>> >> >>>>>>> MS04-028...and

>> >> >>>>>>> to

>> >> >>>>>>> be honest, I have not determined what it is I must do to

>> >> >>>>>>> resolve

>> >> >>>>>>> this

>> >> >>>>>>> risks. I don't see a Security download, etc.

>> >> >>>>>>>

>> >> >>>>>>> What must I do to resolve this Risks?

>> >>

>> >>

>>

>>

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