Guest Ace Posted August 26, 2008 Posted August 26, 2008 I am buying my parents a new computer which inevitably will have the Vista OS on it. I want to upload XP on to the new computer, as I prefer they use that OS. Could someone please give me the exact procedure on how I would do that? Thank you very much!
Guest Bob I Posted August 26, 2008 Posted August 26, 2008 Re: Vista to XP Buy a copy of Windows XP, find all the nessessary XP drivers from the hardware vendors for everything, stick the CD in the drive, ....................................... Ace wrote: > I am buying my parents a new computer which inevitably will have the Vista OS > on it. I want to upload XP on to the new computer, as I prefer they use that > OS. Could someone please give me the exact procedure on how I would do that? > > Thank you very much!
Guest Ace Posted August 26, 2008 Posted August 26, 2008 Re: Vista to XP I don't understand what you mean by "find all the necessary XP drivers from the hardware vendors for everything." I am not real savvy when it comes to computers. So, please bear with me. This is an acceptable thing to do, right? Thanks. "Bob I" wrote: > Buy a copy of Windows XP, find all the nessessary XP drivers from the > hardware vendors for everything, stick the CD in the drive, > ....................................... > > Ace wrote: > > I am buying my parents a new computer which inevitably will have the Vista OS > > on it. I want to upload XP on to the new computer, as I prefer they use that > > OS. Could someone please give me the exact procedure on how I would do that? > > > > Thank you very much! > >
Guest HeyBub Posted August 26, 2008 Posted August 26, 2008 Re: Vista to XP Ace wrote: > I am buying my parents a new computer which inevitably will have the > Vista OS on it. I want to upload XP on to the new computer, as I > prefer they use that OS. Could someone please give me the exact > procedure on how I would do that? > > Thank you very much! It may not be possible. Often newer computers have devices that won't work with XP and can't be made to work. Get a machine with XP installed. They exist.
Guest sgopus Posted August 26, 2008 Posted August 26, 2008 RE: Vista to XP Since you do not have the expertise to do this, I suggest you leave them with Vista and call it good. it's much too involved for a novice to try and do this on their own. "Ace" wrote: > I am buying my parents a new computer which inevitably will have the Vista OS > on it. I want to upload XP on to the new computer, as I prefer they use that > OS. Could someone please give me the exact procedure on how I would do that? > > Thank you very much!
Guest Ace Posted August 26, 2008 Posted August 26, 2008 RE: Vista to XP Wow, it seems like the opinions are quite varied here. I take it that trying to "change" an OS isn't as easy as I thought it would be. I guess it's not like uninstalling a program and installing a new one. Operating systems are obvious much more complex I see. I was surprised to learn I can buy a computer with XP installed. Is this through a retail store such as Best Buy or Circuit City or whatever or do I need to go online to a website such as Dell or Gateway to find one with the older OS? Thanks for the replies! "sgopus" wrote: > Since you do not have the expertise to do this, I suggest you leave them with > Vista and call it good. it's much too involved for a novice to try and do > this on their own. > > "Ace" wrote: > > > I am buying my parents a new computer which inevitably will have the Vista OS > > on it. I want to upload XP on to the new computer, as I prefer they use that > > OS. Could someone please give me the exact procedure on how I would do that? > > > > Thank you very much!
Guest ColTom2 Posted August 26, 2008 Posted August 26, 2008 Re: Vista to XP If you cannot find a computer with XP alone then look for one that has Vista with a "downgrade" to XP, which has all the necessary software to switch to XP. They are also out there. However, my first choice would be just XP. "Ace" <Ace@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:D490F7FE-4E65-4044-82F1-B5C001CDC745@microsoft.com... I am buying my parents a new computer which inevitably will have the Vista OS on it. I want to upload XP on to the new computer, as I prefer they use that OS. Could someone please give me the exact procedure on how I would do that? Thank you very much!
Guest Alias Posted August 27, 2008 Posted August 27, 2008 Re: Vista to XP Ace wrote: > Wow, it seems like the opinions are quite varied here. I take it that trying > to "change" an OS isn't as easy as I thought it would be. I guess it's not > like uninstalling a program and installing a new one. Operating systems are > obvious much more complex I see. > > I was surprised to learn I can buy a computer with XP installed. Is this > through a retail store such as Best Buy or Circuit City or whatever or do I > need to go online to a website such as Dell or Gateway to find one with the > older OS? > > Thanks for the replies! You can get one with XP from Dell. Just make sure that it doesn't come with an endless supply of trial software from the likes of McAfee or Norton and that you're given a restore CD, not a restore partition on your hard drive. IOW, call them, don't just order it on line. Alias > > > "sgopus" wrote: > >> Since you do not have the expertise to do this, I suggest you leave them with >> Vista and call it good. it's much too involved for a novice to try and do >> this on their own. >> >> "Ace" wrote: >> >>> I am buying my parents a new computer which inevitably will have the Vista OS >>> on it. I want to upload XP on to the new computer, as I prefer they use that >>> OS. Could someone please give me the exact procedure on how I would do that? >>> >>> Thank you very much!
Guest Big_Al Posted August 27, 2008 Posted August 27, 2008 Re: Vista to XP Ace wrote: > Wow, it seems like the opinions are quite varied here. I take it that trying > to "change" an OS isn't as easy as I thought it would be. I guess it's not > like uninstalling a program and installing a new one. Operating systems are > obvious much more complex I see. > > I was surprised to learn I can buy a computer with XP installed. Is this > through a retail store such as Best Buy or Circuit City or whatever or do I > need to go online to a website such as Dell or Gateway to find one with the > older OS? > > Thanks for the replies! > > > "sgopus" wrote: > >> Since you do not have the expertise to do this, I suggest you leave them with >> Vista and call it good. it's much too involved for a novice to try and do >> this on their own. >> >> "Ace" wrote: >> >>> I am buying my parents a new computer which inevitably will have the Vista OS >>> on it. I want to upload XP on to the new computer, as I prefer they use that >>> OS. Could someone please give me the exact procedure on how I would do that? >>> >>> Thank you very much! Opinions always vary here as experience varies here too. For me, its not hard to load an OS, but I have been doing it for.... okay too many years. If you are not savey, then its too easy to take a working machine and make it useless. Vista can work. As has been said, (I repeat since it satisfies your wants), if you get a PC with Vista but can be downgraded to XP, then the system should come with sufficient instructions for the user to do this. And as also has been noted, the hardware will work with XP since it was designed to run with both. The latter is a very important feature. Any PC built lately might have hardware that just won't work in XP. So even a great tech will not get XP to work on it. Lets face it, this is the evolution of PC's. Or at least what others think they should evolve to. Good luck. Al.
Guest PA Bear [MS MVP] Posted August 27, 2008 Posted August 27, 2008 Re: Vista to XP Your best bet would be to purchase a new Vista computer with downgrade rights to WinXP, if you can find one. Otherwise, what sgopus said. -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002 AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net DTS-L http://dts-l.net/ Ace wrote: > I am buying my parents a new computer which inevitably will have the Vista > OS on it. I want to upload XP on to the new computer, as I prefer they > use > that OS. Could someone please give me the exact procedure on how I would > do that? > > Thank you very much!
Guest Daave Posted August 27, 2008 Posted August 27, 2008 Re: Vista to XP "Ace" <Ace@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:844AAD02-9430-4674-86B5-23A0B3D6BE95@microsoft.com... > I was surprised to learn I can buy a computer with XP installed. Is > this > through a retail store such as Best Buy or Circuit City or whatever or > do I > need to go online to a website such as Dell or Gateway to find one > with the > older OS? Some of the big royalty OEMs are still selling PCs with XP on them. Dell, for instance, is selling these with the ability and license to upgrade to Vista. The trick is to go to the Small & Medium Business portion of the Dell site: http://www.dell.com/business/desktops?~ck=mn
Guest Bruce Chambers Posted August 27, 2008 Posted August 27, 2008 Re: Vista to XP Ace wrote: > I am buying my parents a new computer which inevitably will have the Vista OS > on it. I want to upload XP on to the new computer, as I prefer they use that > OS. Could someone please give me the exact procedure on how I would do that? > > Thank you very much! As the computer is for your parents, why not ask them which OS they'd prefer? However, there could be a couple possible adverse repercussions of which you should be aware. First and foremost, if the specific computer model in question was designed specifically for Vista, there may well be no WinXP-specific device drivers available to make the computer's diverse components work properly. Consult the computer's manufacturer about the availability of device drivers. Secondly, removing an OEM-installed operating system and replacing it with another will almost invariably void any and all support agreements and, sometimes, even the warranty. You would, at the very least, have to re-install Vista before getting any support from the manufacturer. Again, consult the computer's manufacturer for specifics. Thirdly, there may be the additional cost involved in purchasing a WinXP license for this new computer. After backing up any data you wish to transfer to the new OS installation, simply boot from the WinXP installation CD. You'll be offered the opportunity to delete, create, and format partitions as part of the installation process. (You may need to re-arrange the order of boot devices in the PC's BIOS to boot from the CD.) HOW TO Install Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;316941 http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/clean_install.htm Then, assuming you were successful in obtaining WinXP-specific device drivers so that the computer can be made to work with WinXP, the backed up data can be restored and applications (those that are WinXP-compatible, that is) re-installed. -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers. ~ Denis Diderot
Guest 3c273 Posted August 27, 2008 Posted August 27, 2008 Re: Vista to XP But a computer with downgrade ability. Go to dell.com and put the word downgrade into the search box. In the results, click on browse products. It looks like they have about 40 machines that can arrive at your door with XP already installed. Louis "Ace" <Ace@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:383F085D-9E12-4C02-B741-02CBD1760E79@microsoft.com... > I don't understand what you mean by "find all the necessary XP drivers from > the hardware vendors for everything." I am not real savvy when it comes to > computers. So, please bear with me. > > This is an acceptable thing to do, right? > > Thanks. > > "Bob I" wrote: > > > Buy a copy of Windows XP, find all the nessessary XP drivers from the > > hardware vendors for everything, stick the CD in the drive, > > ....................................... > > > > Ace wrote: > > > I am buying my parents a new computer which inevitably will have the Vista OS > > > on it. I want to upload XP on to the new computer, as I prefer they use that > > > OS. Could someone please give me the exact procedure on how I would do that? > > > > > > Thank you very much! > > > >
Guest 3c273 Posted August 27, 2008 Posted August 27, 2008 Re: Vista to XP Oops! But = Buy. Louis "3c273" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:g93tg2$omj$1@aioe.org... > But a computer with downgrade ability. Go to dell.com and put the word > downgrade into the search box. In the results, click on browse products. It > looks like they have about 40 machines that can arrive at your door with XP > already installed. > Louis > > "Ace" <Ace@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:383F085D-9E12-4C02-B741-02CBD1760E79@microsoft.com... > > I don't understand what you mean by "find all the necessary XP drivers > from > > the hardware vendors for everything." I am not real savvy when it comes > to > > computers. So, please bear with me. > > > > This is an acceptable thing to do, right? > > > > Thanks. > > > > "Bob I" wrote: > > > > > Buy a copy of Windows XP, find all the nessessary XP drivers from the > > > hardware vendors for everything, stick the CD in the drive, > > > ....................................... > > > > > > Ace wrote: > > > > I am buying my parents a new computer which inevitably will have the > Vista OS > > > > on it. I want to upload XP on to the new computer, as I prefer they > use that > > > > OS. Could someone please give me the exact procedure on how I would > do that? > > > > > > > > Thank you very much! > > > > > > > >
Guest Ace Posted August 27, 2008 Posted August 27, 2008 Re: Vista to XP To everyone that replied, I greatly appreciate it. I will definitely check out Dell and Gateway, especially since being at Circuit City tonight and not having a whole lot of luck getting answers from the "kid" on duty. And, by the way, as you as told me, every computer had Windows Vista Premium and, I might add, nothing more. Heck, all computers I guess these days just come with an OS. But, with that said, I am going to change my train of thought. So, let's say I think my parents will be able to adjust to Vista, even though they have a hard time with change, especially when it comes to technology. (That is one of the reasons I wanted to stay with XP. Plus I thought there were a lot of "issues" with Vista.) If I do, in fact, buy a computer with Vista Premium, can they continue to run with dial-up service, which they insist they are fine using as to keep expenses down? And, will the transition be fairly transparent? Of course, I guess you have figured that I currently do not have a system with Vista, so that is why I don't know the first thing about it myself. Any help is truly appreciated! "3c273" wrote: > Oops! But = Buy. > Louis > "3c273" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in message > news:g93tg2$omj$1@aioe.org... > > But a computer with downgrade ability. Go to dell.com and put the word > > downgrade into the search box. In the results, click on browse products. > It > > looks like they have about 40 machines that can arrive at your door with > XP > > already installed. > > Louis > > > > "Ace" <Ace@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > news:383F085D-9E12-4C02-B741-02CBD1760E79@microsoft.com... > > > I don't understand what you mean by "find all the necessary XP drivers > > from > > > the hardware vendors for everything." I am not real savvy when it comes > > to > > > computers. So, please bear with me. > > > > > > This is an acceptable thing to do, right? > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > "Bob I" wrote: > > > > > > > Buy a copy of Windows XP, find all the nessessary XP drivers from the > > > > hardware vendors for everything, stick the CD in the drive, > > > > ....................................... > > > > > > > > Ace wrote: > > > > > I am buying my parents a new computer which inevitably will have the > > Vista OS > > > > > on it. I want to upload XP on to the new computer, as I prefer they > > use that > > > > > OS. Could someone please give me the exact procedure on how I would > > do that? > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Guest 3c273 Posted August 28, 2008 Posted August 28, 2008 Re: Vista to XP Yes, you can use it on a dialup connection. I have a Vista test machine at work and it's not that bad. The worst part is if you get a "consumer" machine from your local big box store, it will come with 100 pieces of trialware that all want to connect to the internet to update themselves so they can start nagging you to upgrade to the full (paid) version. I would suggest taking it home and going intto add/remove programs and uninstalling any trialware so they don't get duped into buying something they don't need. I usually get my machines through the Dell small business section and they don't come loaded with all of that nonsense. Louis "Ace" <Ace@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:991222D6-846E-42C3-8753-E0459900B3A7@microsoft.com... > To everyone that replied, I greatly appreciate it. I will definitely check > out Dell and Gateway, especially since being at Circuit City tonight and not > having a whole lot of luck getting answers from the "kid" on duty. And, by > the way, as you as told me, every computer had Windows Vista Premium and, I > might add, nothing more. Heck, all computers I guess these days just come > with an OS. > > But, with that said, I am going to change my train of thought. So, let's > say I think my parents will be able to adjust to Vista, even though they have > a hard time with change, especially when it comes to technology. (That is > one of the reasons I wanted to stay with XP. Plus I thought there were a lot > of "issues" with Vista.) > > If I do, in fact, buy a computer with Vista Premium, can they continue to > run with dial-up service, which they insist they are fine using as to keep > expenses down? And, will the transition be fairly transparent? Of course, I > guess you have figured that I currently do not have a system with Vista, so > that is why I don't know the first thing about it myself. > > Any help is truly appreciated! > > "3c273" wrote: > > > Oops! But = Buy. > > Louis > > "3c273" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in message > > news:g93tg2$omj$1@aioe.org... > > > But a computer with downgrade ability. Go to dell.com and put the word > > > downgrade into the search box. In the results, click on browse products. > > It > > > looks like they have about 40 machines that can arrive at your door with > > XP > > > already installed. > > > Louis > > > > > > "Ace" <Ace@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > news:383F085D-9E12-4C02-B741-02CBD1760E79@microsoft.com... > > > > I don't understand what you mean by "find all the necessary XP drivers > > > from > > > > the hardware vendors for everything." I am not real savvy when it comes > > > to > > > > computers. So, please bear with me. > > > > > > > > This is an acceptable thing to do, right? > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > "Bob I" wrote: > > > > > > > > > Buy a copy of Windows XP, find all the nessessary XP drivers from the > > > > > hardware vendors for everything, stick the CD in the drive, > > > > > ....................................... > > > > > > > > > > Ace wrote: > > > > > > I am buying my parents a new computer which inevitably will have the > > > Vista OS > > > > > > on it. I want to upload XP on to the new computer, as I prefer they > > > use that > > > > > > OS. Could someone please give me the exact procedure on how I would > > > do that? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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