Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick.

[Guest wrreisen2]

Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick. I have been

using the built in Windows backup software but it is so slow in

comparison to just copying and pasting folders onto a backup disk. The

problem with just copying and pasting is that this process is often

interupted because the occasional file in these folders can be in use

and stops the copying process. Is there software that is as fast as

just copying and pasting folders in explorer but isn't likely to be

interupted?

 

Thanks for any advice?

[Guest Gary S. Terhune]

Re: Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick.

 

There's no such thing as a FAST backup utility, but Acronis is certainly

faster than Windows Backup. And more secure, easier to restore whole

partitions or just versions of files, etc. And, as you'll note here, the

Home version supports 64-bit.

http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/trueimage/requirements.html

 

Try the 15-day trial (though it certainly isn't long enough to decently work

out a backup system, it will give you an idea of what speeds you might

attain), and if you decide to buy, get it here. Cheaper:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Description=acronis&x=15&y=26

 

TinyURL for above link = http://tinyurl.com/5cad33

 

Another one I'd consider is:

Image for Windows

http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/image-for-windows.htm

However, note this line at the bottom of the product description:

"Compatible with Win64 (x64) (AMD64/EM64T) but not with IA64, GPTs, nor

Dynamic Drives."

 

And while I hate Symantec to an unhealthy degree, many users swear by Ghost.

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://grystmill.com

 

"wrreisen2" <wrreisen2@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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> Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick. I have been

> using the built in Windows backup software but it is so slow in

> comparison to just copying and pasting folders onto a backup disk. The

> problem with just copying and pasting is that this process is often

> interupted because the occasional file in these folders can be in use

> and stops the copying process. Is there software that is as fast as

> just copying and pasting folders in explorer but isn't likely to be

> interupted?

>

> Thanks for any advice?

[Guest chuckcar]

Re: Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick.

 

wrreisen2 <wrreisen2@yahoo.com> wrote in

news:5f972ebc-b1d6-404d-b622-d4d6d523b955@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:

> Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick. I have been

> using the built in Windows backup software but it is so slow in

> comparison to just copying and pasting folders onto a backup disk. The

> problem with just copying and pasting is that this process is often

> interupted because the occasional file in these folders can be in use

> and stops the copying process. Is there software that is as fast as

> just copying and pasting folders in explorer but isn't likely to be

> interupted?

>

> Thanks for any advice?

 

If you don't have any documents open and it says a file you're backing

up is open then you're backing up wrong to begin with. You backup *only*

your documents, not windows, not installed programs, just *your*

documents full stop.

 

--

(setq (chuck nil) car(chuck) )

[Guest Harry]

Re: Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick.

 

On Aug 27, 11:51 am, wrreisen2 <wrreis...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick. I have been

> using the built in Windows backup software but it is so slow in

> comparison to just copying and pasting folders onto a backup disk. The

> problem with just copying and pasting is that this process is often

> interupted because the occasional file in these folders can be in use

> and stops the copying process. Is there software that is as fast as

> just copying and pasting folders in explorer but isn't likely to be

> interupted?

 

Google is your friend.

 

Google "copying file in use" ....

 

http://alt.pluralsight.com/wiki/default.aspx/Craig/HoboCopy.html

[Guest Gary S. Terhune]

Re: Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick.

 

Baloney. Purely ignorant BS.

 

And why the Follow-up setting? More ignorance? Header is fixed.

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://grystmill.com

 

"chuckcar" <chuck@nil.car> wrote in message

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> wrreisen2 <wrreisen2@yahoo.com> wrote in

> news:5f972ebc-b1d6-404d-b622-d4d6d523b955@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:

>

>> Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick. I have been

>> using the built in Windows backup software but it is so slow in

>> comparison to just copying and pasting folders onto a backup disk. The

>> problem with just copying and pasting is that this process is often

>> interupted because the occasional file in these folders can be in use

>> and stops the copying process. Is there software that is as fast as

>> just copying and pasting folders in explorer but isn't likely to be

>> interupted?

>>

>> Thanks for any advice?

>

> If you don't have any documents open and it says a file you're backing

> up is open then you're backing up wrong to begin with. You backup *only*

> your documents, not windows, not installed programs, just *your*

> documents full stop.

>

> --

> (setq (chuck nil) car(chuck) )

[Guest Gary S. Terhune]

Re: Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick.

 

Yes, Google is your friend, but only if you are asking the right question,

and you have the question wrong. The question was: "Please recommend backup

software for xp x64 that is quick."

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://grystmill.com

 

"Harry" <harryooopotter@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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On Aug 27, 11:51 am, wrreisen2 <wrreis...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick. I have been

> using the built in Windows backup software but it is so slow in

> comparison to just copying and pasting folders onto a backup disk. The

> problem with just copying and pasting is that this process is often

> interupted because the occasional file in these folders can be in use

> and stops the copying process. Is there software that is as fast as

> just copying and pasting folders in explorer but isn't likely to be

> interupted?

 

Google is your friend.

 

Google "copying file in use" ....

 

http://alt.pluralsight.com/wiki/default.aspx/Craig/HoboCopy.html

[Guest Harry331]

Re: Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick.

 

Gary S. Terhune wrote...

>

>Yes, Google is your friend, but only if you are asking the right question,

>and you have the question wrong. The question was: "Please recommend backup

>software for xp x64 that is quick."

 

The OP's context of "quick" was that copy was slowed down by

failure due to "file in use."

 

If you use this context of "quick," it will be quicker.

[Guest chuckcar]

Re: Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick.

 

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in

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> Yes, Google is your friend, but only if you are asking the right

> question, and you have the question wrong. The question was: "Please

> recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick."

>

You want a quick answer, I'll give you a quick answer: pkzip. There,

happy now?

 

 

--

(setq (chuck nil) car(chuck) )

[Guest chuckcar]

Re: Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick.

 

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in

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"chuckcar" <chuck@nil.car> wrote in message

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> wrreisen2 <wrreisen2@yahoo.com> wrote in

> news:5f972ebc-b1d6-404d-b622-d4d6d523b955@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:

>

>> Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick. I have

>> been using the built in Windows backup software but it is so slow in

>> comparison to just copying and pasting folders onto a backup disk.

>> The problem with just copying and pasting is that this process is

>> often interupted because the occasional file in these folders can be

>> in use and stops the copying process. Is there software that is as

>> fast as just copying and pasting folders in explorer but isn't likely

>> to be interupted?

>>

>> Thanks for any advice?

>

> If you don't have any documents open and it says a file you're backing

> up is open then you're backing up wrong to begin with. You backup

> *only* your documents, not windows, not installed programs, just

> *your* documents full stop.

>

> Baloney. Purely ignorant BS.

>

Completely useless criticism and completely wrong as well. You *install*

programs, you don't just copy them onto the hard drive. But then again,

I'm supposed to accept the word of a Top-posting OE droid? Hardly.

> And why the Follow-up setting?

 

Because *that's* the group I read. Restored to normal behavior.

>

 

 

--

(setq (chuck nil) car(chuck) )

[Guest Llanzlan Klazmon]

Re: Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick.

 

 

 

wrreisen2 wrote:

> Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick. I have been

> using the built in Windows backup software but it is so slow in

> comparison to just copying and pasting folders onto a backup disk. The

> problem with just copying and pasting is that this process is often

> interupted because the occasional file in these folders can be in use

> and stops the copying process. Is there software that is as fast as

> just copying and pasting folders in explorer but isn't likely to be

> interupted?

>

> Thanks for any advice?

 

http://www.arkeia.com/

[Guest Gary S. Terhune]

Re: Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick.

 

I answered the OP's question, plain and simple. Copy/Paste is NOT a form of

"backup software." Get your terminology straight.

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://grystmill.com

 

"Harry331" <harryooopotter@hotmail.co_> wrote in message

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> Gary S. Terhune wrote...

>>

>>Yes, Google is your friend, but only if you are asking the right question,

>>and you have the question wrong. The question was: "Please recommend

>>backup

>>software for xp x64 that is quick."

>

> The OP's context of "quick" was that copy was slowed down by

> failure due to "file in use."

>

> If you use this context of "quick," it will be quicker.

>

>

>

[Guest Harry331]

Re: Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick.

 

Gary S. Terhune wrote...

>

>I answered the OP's question, plain and simple. Copy/Paste is NOT a form of

>"backup software." Get your terminology straight.

 

Google "definition backup software."

 

http://www.google.ca/search?

hl=en&defl=en&q=define:Backup+software&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title

 

Definitions of Backup software on the Web:

 

Backup software is software designed to backup data for the purpose

of having a second copy of an original source in case of damage to

the ...

 

Copy/Paste does not contradict this definition.

 

Why don't you get your terminology straight?

The laugh is on you!

[Guest Gary S. Terhune]

Re: Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick.

 

Nope. Not interested in a stupid

dictionary-definitions-versus-real-world-usage argument.

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://grystmill.com

 

"Harry331" <harryooopotter@hotmail.co_> wrote in message

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> Gary S. Terhune wrote...

>>

>>I answered the OP's question, plain and simple. Copy/Paste is NOT a form

>>of

>>"backup software." Get your terminology straight.

>

> Google "definition backup software."

>

> http://www.google.ca/search?

> hl=en&defl=en&q=define:Backup+software&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title

>

> Definitions of Backup software on the Web:

>

> Backup software is software designed to backup data for the purpose

> of having a second copy of an original source in case of damage to

> the ...

>

> Copy/Paste does not contradict this definition.

>

> Why don't you get your terminology straight?

> The laugh is on you!

>

>

>

[Guest mscotgrove@aol.com]

Re: Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick.

 

On Aug 27, 7:51 pm, wrreisen2 <wrreis...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick. I have been

> using the built in Windows backup software but it is so slow in

> comparison to just copying and pasting folders onto a backup disk. The

> problem with just copying and pasting is that this process is often

> interupted because the occasional file in these folders can be in use

> and stops the copying process. Is there software that is as fast as

> just copying and pasting folders in explorer but isn't likely to be

> interupted?

>

> Thanks for any advice?

 

To overcome the copy and paste problem use a DOS window and xcopy. I

do this as part of my backup procedure by scheduling a call to a batch

file that does an xcopy of critical files to a different PC.

 

Backup speed is only part of the equation. The most important aspect

is that backup must be done on a very regular basis. Anything added

or changed between backups can be lost. I would therefore rate

automation before speed. I often get customers saying they were going

to backup their system next week.

 

I am very found of the many online backup systems one can get. They

monitor 24x7 and backup your selected files automatically. Unless you

are generating large video files, online backup, once the main part is

loaded, is reasonably quick. An initial upload may take a few weeks.

 

You need two levels of backup to cope with a total drive failure. The

first is an image of your drive such as generated by Ghost or Acronis,

then you need a responsive, very up to date incremental backup of

your data files that are changing. One copy of the data should always

be in a different location eg home, office, mother in law, online

storage, always subject to any security issues on the data

 

Michael

http://www.cnwrecovery.com

[Guest Llanzlan Klazmon]

Re: Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick.

 

On Aug 28, 9:31 pm, "mscotgr...@aol.com" <mscotgr...@aol.com> wrote:

> On Aug 27, 7:51 pm, wrreisen2 <wrreis...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>

> > Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick. I have been

> > using the built in Windows backup software but it is so slow in

> > comparison to just copying and pasting folders onto a backup disk. The

> > problem with just copying and pasting is that this process is often

> > interupted because the occasional file in these folders can be in use

> > and stops the copying process. Is there software that is as fast as

> > just copying and pasting folders in explorer but isn't likely to be

> > interupted?

>

> > Thanks for any advice?

>

> To overcome the copy and paste problem use a DOS window and xcopy.  I

> do this as part of my backup procedure by scheduling a call to a batch

> file that does an xcopy of critical files to a different PC.

>

> Backup speed is only part of the equation.  The most important aspect

> is that  backup must be done on a very regular basis.  Anything added

> or changed between backups can be lost.  I would therefore rate

> automation before speed.  I often get customers saying they were going

> to backup their system next week.

>

> I am very found of the many online backup systems one can get.  They

> monitor 24x7 and backup your selected files automatically.  Unless you

> are generating large video files, online backup, once the main part is

> loaded, is reasonably quick.  An initial upload may take a few weeks.

>

> You need two levels of backup to cope with a total drive failure. The

> first is an image of your drive such as generated by Ghost or Acronis,

> then you need a responsive, very up to date incremental backup  of

> your data files that are changing.  One copy of the data should always

> be in a different location eg home, office, mother in law,  online

> storage, always subject to any security issues on the data

>

> Michaelwww.cnwrecovery.com

 

What if your drive fails and you then find the online backup company

went out of business the day before?

[Guest mscotgrove@aol.com]

Re: Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick.

 

On Aug 28, 10:45 am, Llanzlan Klazmon <bill.m.tho...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Aug 28, 9:31 pm, "mscotgr...@aol.com" <mscotgr...@aol.com> wrote:

>

>

>

>

>

> > On Aug 27, 7:51 pm, wrreisen2 <wrreis...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>

> > > Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick. I have been

> > > using the built in Windows backup software but it is so slow in

> > > comparison to just copying and pasting folders onto a backup disk. The

> > > problem with just copying and pasting is that this process is often

> > > interupted because the occasional file in these folders can be in use

> > > and stops the copying process. Is there software that is as fast as

> > > just copying and pasting folders in explorer but isn't likely to be

> > > interupted?

>

> > > Thanks for any advice?

>

> > To overcome the copy and paste problem use a DOS window and xcopy.  I

> > do this as part of my backup procedure by scheduling a call to a batch

> > file that does an xcopy of critical files to a different PC.

>

> > Backup speed is only part of the equation.  The most important aspect

> > is that  backup must be done on a very regular basis.  Anything added

> > or changed between backups can be lost.  I would therefore rate

> > automation before speed.  I often get customers saying they were going

> > to backup their system next week.

>

> > I am very found of the many online backup systems one can get.  They

> > monitor 24x7 and backup your selected files automatically.  Unless you

> > are generating large video files, online backup, once the main part is

> > loaded, is reasonably quick.  An initial upload may take a few weeks.

>

> > You need two levels of backup to cope with a total drive failure. The

> > first is an image of your drive such as generated by Ghost or Acronis,

> > then you need a responsive, very up to date incremental backup  of

> > your data files that are changing.  One copy of the data should always

> > be in a different location eg home, office, mother in law,  online

> > storage, always subject to any security issues on the data

>

> > Michaelwww.cnwrecovery.com

>

> What if your drive fails and you then find the online backup company

> went out of business the day before?- Hide quoted text -

>

> - Show quoted text -

 

It is why you need multiple backups. The same case applies if you

backup to an external drive and they both fail, or you have a

lightening strike taking them both out.

 

The more backups, the less likely it is that they will all fail the

same time. Not getting round to backing up is in my opinion the

greatest risk, hence the requirement for automation.

 

Michael

[Guest observer]

Re: Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick.

 

On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 22:46:23 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:

>Nope. Not interested in a stupid

>dictionary-definitions-versus-real-world-usage argument.

 

Valid point but in this case, there is a difference. Copy/paste may

miss hidden files or open files, etc.. . Regardless tho, every is

entitled to backup (or not) files as they choose whether or not it is

the correct method.

[Guest Twayne]

Re: Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick.

 

> Gary S. Terhune wrote...

>>

>> Yes, Google is your friend, but only if you are asking the right

>> question, and you have the question wrong. The question was: "Please

>> recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick."

>

> The OP's context of "quick" was that copy was slowed down by

> failure due to "file in use."

>

> If you use this context of "quick," it will be quicker.

 

Ghost 14 is the quickest I've seen. True Image was good too but not as

fast; I tried them both & opted for Ghost since they had their update

campaign still going ($50).

 

Anything used to back up the system that cannot use the shadow copy

services does not produce a system backup.

[Guest Unknown]

Re: Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick.

 

Shear hogwash! Ever hear of BounceBack?

"Twayne" <nobody@devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message

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>> Gary S. Terhune wrote...

>>>

>>> Yes, Google is your friend, but only if you are asking the right

>>> question, and you have the question wrong. The question was: "Please

>>> recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick."

>>

>> The OP's context of "quick" was that copy was slowed down by

>> failure due to "file in use."

>>

>> If you use this context of "quick," it will be quicker.

>

> Ghost 14 is the quickest I've seen. True Image was good too but not as

> fast; I tried them both & opted for Ghost since they had their update

> campaign still going ($50).

>

> Anything used to back up the system that cannot use the shadow copy

> services does not produce a system backup.

>

[Guest Memnoch]

Re: Please recommend backup software for xp x64 that is quick.

 

On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:19:15 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:

>There's no such thing as a FAST backup utility, but Acronis is certainly

>faster than Windows Backup. And more secure, easier to restore whole

>partitions or just versions of files, etc. And, as you'll note here, the

>Home version supports 64-bit.

>http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/trueimage/requirements.html

>

>Try the 15-day trial (though it certainly isn't long enough to decently work

>out a backup system, it will give you an idea of what speeds you might

>attain), and if you decide to buy, get it here. Cheaper:

>http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Description=acronis&x=15&y=26

>

>TinyURL for above link = http://tinyurl.com/5cad33

>

>Another one I'd consider is:

>Image for Windows

>http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/image-for-windows.htm

>However, note this line at the bottom of the product description:

>"Compatible with Win64 (x64) (AMD64/EM64T) but not with IA64, GPTs, nor

>Dynamic Drives."

>

>And while I hate Symantec to an unhealthy degree, many users swear by Ghost.

 

I'll second Acronis. I use True Image Echo Workstation, both in live mode

while the OS is loaded and from a memory stick. First class solution and so

much better than Ghost, which I use at work.