Guest Panic Posted August 27, 2008 Posted August 27, 2008 I have a friend who "heard" you can use the new Windows Vista email program "Mail" with a WinXP OS. Is that true?
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 27, 2008 Posted August 27, 2008 Re: Can Mail be used with Winxp? Dunno. Doubt it. And why would you want to? It's just OE with a different skin. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "Panic" <smartwit@home.com> wrote in message news:eSRFrHJCJHA.3348@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >I have a friend who "heard" you can use the new Windows Vista email program >"Mail" with a WinXP OS. Is that true? >
Guest Bruce Hagen Posted August 27, 2008 Posted August 27, 2008 Re: Can Mail be used with Winxp? "Panic" <smartwit@home.com> wrote in message news:eSRFrHJCJHA.3348@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >I have a friend who "heard" you can use the new Windows Vista email program >"Mail" with a WinXP OS. Is that true? Windows Mail is bundled with Vista and cannot be used with XP. (No lose there. It is even worse than OE). Windows "Live" Mail can be used with XP. Windows Live Mail (Overview & Features): http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP Outlook Express Imperial Beach, CA
Guest Unknown Posted August 28, 2008 Posted August 28, 2008 Re: Can Mail be used with Winxp? Worse than OE?????? What's wrong with OE? "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message news:uD9D0SJCJHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > "Panic" <smartwit@home.com> wrote in message > news:eSRFrHJCJHA.3348@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>I have a friend who "heard" you can use the new Windows Vista email >>program "Mail" with a WinXP OS. Is that true? > > Windows Mail is bundled with Vista and cannot be used with XP. (No lose > there. It is even worse than OE). > > Windows "Live" Mail can be used with XP. > > Windows Live Mail (Overview & Features): > http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview > -- > > Bruce Hagen > MS-MVP Outlook Express > Imperial Beach, CA > > > >
Guest Bruce Hagen Posted August 28, 2008 Posted August 28, 2008 Re: Can Mail be used with Winxp? "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message news:OtBtk.19432$jI5.5277@flpi148.ffdc.sbc.com... > Worse than OE?????? What's wrong with OE? Specifically, the fragile dbx file structure is the most important thing wrong with OE. They fixed that in WinMail, but screwed up a dozen other things that /did/ work fine. Don't get me wrong. I like OE. But it needs a lot of TLC thay many people don't do because it isn't in Help. -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP Outlook Express Imperial Beach, CA
Guest Unknown Posted August 28, 2008 Posted August 28, 2008 Re: Can Mail be used with Winxp? Never had a problem with it. Why do you say dbx file structure is frail? "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message news:eQqnKgTCJHA.528@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message > news:OtBtk.19432$jI5.5277@flpi148.ffdc.sbc.com... >> Worse than OE?????? What's wrong with OE? > > Specifically, the fragile dbx file structure is the most important thing > wrong with OE. They fixed that in WinMail, but screwed up a dozen other > things that /did/ work fine. Don't get me wrong. I like OE. But it needs a > lot of TLC thay many people don't do because it isn't in Help. > -- > > Bruce Hagen > MS-MVP Outlook Express > Imperial Beach, CA > >
Guest Alias Posted August 28, 2008 Posted August 28, 2008 Re: Can Mail be used with Winxp? Unknown wrote: > Never had a problem with it. Why do you say dbx file structure is frail? Want to find out the hard way? Open OE. Start compacting your messages. Pull the plug to your computer out of the wall while it's in the middle of compacting. Back up your .dbx files first ;-) Alias > "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message > news:eQqnKgTCJHA.528@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message >> news:OtBtk.19432$jI5.5277@flpi148.ffdc.sbc.com... >>> Worse than OE?????? What's wrong with OE? >> Specifically, the fragile dbx file structure is the most important thing >> wrong with OE. They fixed that in WinMail, but screwed up a dozen other >> things that /did/ work fine. Don't get me wrong. I like OE. But it needs a >> lot of TLC thay many people don't do because it isn't in Help. >> -- >> >> Bruce Hagen >> MS-MVP Outlook Express >> Imperial Beach, CA >> >> > >
Guest Alias Posted August 28, 2008 Posted August 28, 2008 Re: Can Mail be used with Winxp? Panic wrote: > I have a friend who "heard" you can use the new Windows Vista email program > "Mail" with a WinXP OS. Is that true? > > No, but you can use the lame Windows Live Fail. I would recommend a much better program called Thunderbird. It's free and can be downloaded from http://www.mozilla.com/thunderbird. It has an excellent junk filter and spell checks as you type a message. Not only that, it has extensions and add ons including a calendar. Compared to OE, it's a breeze to back up, too. Alias
Guest Bruce Hagen Posted August 28, 2008 Posted August 28, 2008 Re: Can Mail be used with Winxp? It is a known issue for over a decade now. Viral Irony: The Most Common Cause of Corruption. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/community/columns/filecorruption.mspx#EOAAC And: http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3 -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP Outlook Express Imperial Beach, CA "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message news:uoCtk.19437$jI5.3195@flpi148.ffdc.sbc.com... > Never had a problem with it. Why do you say dbx file structure is frail? > "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message > news:eQqnKgTCJHA.528@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message >> news:OtBtk.19432$jI5.5277@flpi148.ffdc.sbc.com... >>> Worse than OE?????? What's wrong with OE? >> >> Specifically, the fragile dbx file structure is the most important thing >> wrong with OE. They fixed that in WinMail, but screwed up a dozen other >> things that /did/ work fine. Don't get me wrong. I like OE. But it needs >> a lot of TLC thay many people don't do because it isn't in Help. >> -- >> >> Bruce Hagen >> MS-MVP Outlook Express >> Imperial Beach, CA >> >> > >
Guest DaN Posted August 29, 2008 Posted August 29, 2008 Re: Can Mail be used with Winxp? Alias wrote: > Panic wrote: >> I have a friend who "heard" you can use the new Windows Vista email >> program "Mail" with a WinXP OS. Is that true? >> > > No, but you can use the lame Windows Live Fail. I would recommend a much > better program called Thunderbird. It's free and can be downloaded from > http://www.mozilla.com/thunderbird. It has an excellent junk filter and > spell checks as you type a message. Not only that, it has extensions and > add ons including a calendar. Compared to OE, it's a breeze to back up, > too. > > Alias I would cast my vote for Thunderbird as well. Email has never been so efficient.
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 29, 2008 Posted August 29, 2008 Re: Can Mail be used with Winxp? Umm.... What so hard about backing up OE? How does TB make it any easier? -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "DaN" <Dan@dansNOSPAMcomp.net> wrote in message news:ONQBBcZCJHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Alias wrote: >> Panic wrote: >>> I have a friend who "heard" you can use the new Windows Vista email >>> program "Mail" with a WinXP OS. Is that true? >>> >> >> No, but you can use the lame Windows Live Fail. I would recommend a much >> better program called Thunderbird. It's free and can be downloaded from >> http://www.mozilla.com/thunderbird. It has an excellent junk filter and >> spell checks as you type a message. Not only that, it has extensions and >> add ons including a calendar. Compared to OE, it's a breeze to back up, >> too. >> >> Alias > > I would cast my vote for Thunderbird as well. > Email has never been so efficient.
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 29, 2008 Posted August 29, 2008 Re: Can Mail be used with Winxp? Ummm... What's so hard about backing up OE? What makes TB easier? -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "Alias" <iamalias@gmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message news:g96sbl$doj$2@aioe.org... > Panic wrote: >> I have a friend who "heard" you can use the new Windows Vista email >> program "Mail" with a WinXP OS. Is that true? > > No, but you can use the lame Windows Live Fail. I would recommend a much > better program called Thunderbird. It's free and can be downloaded from > http://www.mozilla.com/thunderbird. It has an excellent junk filter and > spell checks as you type a message. Not only that, it has extensions and > add ons including a calendar. Compared to OE, it's a breeze to back up, > too. > > Alias
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 29, 2008 Posted August 29, 2008 Re: Can Mail be used with Winxp? Oops! Replied to wrong person. Sorry. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:exLMqxfCJHA.5808@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Umm.... What so hard about backing up OE? How does TB make it any easier? > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://grystmill.com > > "DaN" <Dan@dansNOSPAMcomp.net> wrote in message > news:ONQBBcZCJHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Alias wrote: >>> Panic wrote: >>>> I have a friend who "heard" you can use the new Windows Vista email >>>> program "Mail" with a WinXP OS. Is that true? >>>> >>> >>> No, but you can use the lame Windows Live Fail. I would recommend a much >>> better program called Thunderbird. It's free and can be downloaded from >>> http://www.mozilla.com/thunderbird. It has an excellent junk filter and >>> spell checks as you type a message. Not only that, it has extensions and >>> add ons including a calendar. Compared to OE, it's a breeze to back up, >>> too. >>> >>> Alias >> >> I would cast my vote for Thunderbird as well. >> Email has never been so efficient. > >
Guest Alias Posted August 29, 2008 Posted August 29, 2008 Re: Can Mail be used with Winxp? Gary S. Terhune wrote: > Umm.... What so hard about backing up OE? How does TB make it any easier? With T-Bird you back up one folder and two files. To restore TB, all you need to do is nuke the folder and files that are default in the new install and replace them with the backed up files. This backs up and restores all mail and all the accounts, be they mail or news. Alias > -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "DaN" <Dan@dansNOSPAMcomp.net> wrote in message news:ONQBBcZCJHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > Alias wrote: >> >> Panic wrote: >>> >>> I have a friend who "heard" you can use the new Windows Vista email >>> >>> program "Mail" with a WinXP OS. Is that true? >>> >>> >> >> >> >> No, but you can use the lame Windows Live Fail. I would recommend a much >> >> better program called Thunderbird. It's free and can be downloaded from >> >> http://www.mozilla.com/thunderbird. It has an excellent junk filter and >> >> spell checks as you type a message. Not only that, it has extensions and >> >> add ons including a calendar. Compared to OE, it's a breeze to back up, >> >> too. >> >> >> >> Alias > > > > I would cast my vote for Thunderbird as well. > > Email has never been so efficient.
Guest Alias Posted August 29, 2008 Posted August 29, 2008 Re: Can Mail be used with Winxp? Gary S. Terhune wrote: > Ummm... What's so hard about backing up OE? What makes TB easier? > With T-Bird you back up one folder and two files. To restore TB, all you need to do is nuke the folder and files that are default in the new install and replace them with the backed up files. This backs up and restores all mail and all the accounts, be they mail or news. This works in both Linux and Windows. OE only works in some versions of Windows and no versions of Linux. Alias
Guest Unknown Posted August 29, 2008 Posted August 29, 2008 Re: Can Mail be used with Winxp? That is shear stupidity. Run anything and yank the cord out of the wall. Why specifically OE compacting? "Alias" <iamalias@gmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message news:g96s7o$doj$1@aioe.org... > Unknown wrote: >> Never had a problem with it. Why do you say dbx file structure is frail? > > Want to find out the hard way? Open OE. Start compacting your messages. > Pull the plug to your computer out of the wall while it's in the middle of > compacting. Back up your .dbx files first ;-) > > Alias >> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message >> news:eQqnKgTCJHA.528@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message >>> news:OtBtk.19432$jI5.5277@flpi148.ffdc.sbc.com... >>>> Worse than OE?????? What's wrong with OE? >>> Specifically, the fragile dbx file structure is the most important thing >>> wrong with OE. They fixed that in WinMail, but screwed up a dozen other >>> things that /did/ work fine. Don't get me wrong. I like OE. But it needs >>> a lot of TLC thay many people don't do because it isn't in Help. >>> -- >>> >>> Bruce Hagen >>> MS-MVP Outlook Express >>> Imperial Beach, CA >>> >>> >>
Guest Unknown Posted August 29, 2008 Posted August 29, 2008 Re: Can Mail be used with Winxp? It is not OE as the article states. It (corruption) is caused by NON_MICROSOFT virus scanning programs. Amazing how MS always gets blamed for others poor programming. Pick on the BIG GUY syndrome. > It is a known issue for over a decade now. > > Viral Irony: The Most Common Cause of Corruption. > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/community/columns/filecorruption.mspx#EOAAC > > And: > http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3 > -- > > Bruce Hagen > MS-MVP Outlook Express > Imperial Beach, CA > > > "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message > news:uoCtk.19437$jI5.3195@flpi148.ffdc.sbc.com... >> Never had a problem with it. Why do you say dbx file structure is frail? >> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message >> news:eQqnKgTCJHA.528@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message >>> news:OtBtk.19432$jI5.5277@flpi148.ffdc.sbc.com... >>>> Worse than OE?????? What's wrong with OE? >>> >>> Specifically, the fragile dbx file structure is the most important thing >>> wrong with OE. They fixed that in WinMail, but screwed up a dozen other >>> things that /did/ work fine. Don't get me wrong. I like OE. But it needs >>> a lot of TLC thay many people don't do because it isn't in Help. >>> -- >>> >>> Bruce Hagen >>> MS-MVP Outlook Express >>> Imperial Beach, CA >>> >>> >> >> >
Guest Bruce Hagen Posted August 29, 2008 Posted August 29, 2008 Re: Can Mail be used with Winxp? Yes. But it is because of the fragile dbx file system. AFAIK, e-mail scanning does not pose such a threat in other e-mail clients. (Not that you need e-mail scanning at all). As far as compacting, as Alias mentioned, any disruption of the process can wipe out entire folders. That is why we recommend working offline when compacting. I'm not picking on the big guy, just pointing out the facts. Like I said. I'm still using OE and have no plans to go elsewhere in the foreseeable future. -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP Outlook Express Imperial Beach, CA "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message news:giXtk.18206$LG4.2178@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com... > It is not OE as the article states. It (corruption) is caused by > NON_MICROSOFT virus scanning programs. > Amazing how MS always gets blamed for others poor programming. Pick on the > BIG GUY syndrome. >> It is a known issue for over a decade now. >> >> Viral Irony: The Most Common Cause of Corruption. >> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/community/columns/filecorruption.mspx#EOAAC >> >> And: >> http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3 >> -- >> >> Bruce Hagen >> MS-MVP Outlook Express >> Imperial Beach, CA >> >> >> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message >> news:uoCtk.19437$jI5.3195@flpi148.ffdc.sbc.com... >>> Never had a problem with it. Why do you say dbx file structure is frail? >>> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message >>> news:eQqnKgTCJHA.528@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message >>>> news:OtBtk.19432$jI5.5277@flpi148.ffdc.sbc.com... >>>>> Worse than OE?????? What's wrong with OE? >>>> >>>> Specifically, the fragile dbx file structure is the most important >>>> thing wrong with OE. They fixed that in WinMail, but screwed up a dozen >>>> other things that /did/ work fine. Don't get me wrong. I like OE. But >>>> it needs a lot of TLC thay many people don't do because it isn't in >>>> Help. >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Bruce Hagen >>>> MS-MVP Outlook Express >>>> Imperial Beach, CA >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 29, 2008 Posted August 29, 2008 Re: Can Mail be used with Winxp? You really are stupid, aren't you? -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message news:L8Xtk.18204$LG4.1681@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com... > That is shear stupidity. Run anything and yank the cord out of the wall. > Why specifically OE compacting? > "Alias" <iamalias@gmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message > news:g96s7o$doj$1@aioe.org... >> Unknown wrote: >>> Never had a problem with it. Why do you say dbx file structure is frail? >> >> Want to find out the hard way? Open OE. Start compacting your messages. >> Pull the plug to your computer out of the wall while it's in the middle >> of compacting. Back up your .dbx files first ;-) >> >> Alias >>> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message >>> news:eQqnKgTCJHA.528@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message >>>> news:OtBtk.19432$jI5.5277@flpi148.ffdc.sbc.com... >>>>> Worse than OE?????? What's wrong with OE? >>>> Specifically, the fragile dbx file structure is the most important >>>> thing wrong with OE. They fixed that in WinMail, but screwed up a dozen >>>> other things that /did/ work fine. Don't get me wrong. I like OE. But >>>> it needs a lot of TLC thay many people don't do because it isn't in >>>> Help. >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Bruce Hagen >>>> MS-MVP Outlook Express >>>> Imperial Beach, CA >>>> >>>> >>> >
Guest PA Bear [MS MVP] Posted August 29, 2008 Posted August 29, 2008 Re: Can Mail be used with Winxp? And what do shears have to do with it? <eg> Gary S. Terhune wrote: > You really are stupid, aren't you? > > > "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message > news:L8Xtk.18204$LG4.1681@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com... >> That is shear stupidity. Run anything and yank the cord out of the wall. >> Why specifically OE compacting? >> "Alias" <iamalias@gmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message >> news:g96s7o$doj$1@aioe.org... >>> Unknown wrote: >>>> Never had a problem with it. Why do you say dbx file structure is >>>> frail? >>> >>> Want to find out the hard way? Open OE. Start compacting your messages. >>> Pull the plug to your computer out of the wall while it's in the middle >>> of compacting. Back up your .dbx files first ;-) >>> >>> Alias >>>> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message >>>> news:eQqnKgTCJHA.528@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>>> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message >>>>> news:OtBtk.19432$jI5.5277@flpi148.ffdc.sbc.com... >>>>>> Worse than OE?????? What's wrong with OE? >>>>> Specifically, the fragile dbx file structure is the most important >>>>> thing wrong with OE. They fixed that in WinMail, but screwed up a >>>>> dozen >>>>> other things that /did/ work fine. Don't get me wrong. I like OE. But >>>>> it needs a lot of TLC thay many people don't do because it isn't in >>>>> Help. >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Bruce Hagen >>>>> MS-MVP Outlook Express >>>>> Imperial Beach, CA
Guest Unknown Posted August 29, 2008 Posted August 29, 2008 Re: Can Mail be used with Winxp? Well stop and think. Is that a valid test to determine the fragility of OE's ..dbx files? Are YOU really that stupid?. "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:uE0Gv7hCJHA.5808@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > You really are stupid, aren't you? > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://grystmill.com > > "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message > news:L8Xtk.18204$LG4.1681@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com... >> That is shear stupidity. Run anything and yank the cord out of the wall. >> Why specifically OE compacting? >> "Alias" <iamalias@gmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message >> news:g96s7o$doj$1@aioe.org... >>> Unknown wrote: >>>> Never had a problem with it. Why do you say dbx file structure is >>>> frail? >>> >>> Want to find out the hard way? Open OE. Start compacting your messages. >>> Pull the plug to your computer out of the wall while it's in the middle >>> of compacting. Back up your .dbx files first ;-) >>> >>> Alias >>>> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message >>>> news:eQqnKgTCJHA.528@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>>> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message >>>>> news:OtBtk.19432$jI5.5277@flpi148.ffdc.sbc.com... >>>>>> Worse than OE?????? What's wrong with OE? >>>>> Specifically, the fragile dbx file structure is the most important >>>>> thing wrong with OE. They fixed that in WinMail, but screwed up a >>>>> dozen other things that /did/ work fine. Don't get me wrong. I like >>>>> OE. But it needs a lot of TLC thay many people don't do because it >>>>> isn't in Help. >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Bruce Hagen >>>>> MS-MVP Outlook Express >>>>> Imperial Beach, CA >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >> > >
Guest Unknown Posted August 29, 2008 Posted August 29, 2008 Re: Can Mail be used with Winxp? Is sheer OK? "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message news:%23AN1PRiCJHA.4576@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > And what do shears have to do with it? <eg> > > Gary S. Terhune wrote: >> You really are stupid, aren't you? >> >> >> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message >> news:L8Xtk.18204$LG4.1681@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com... >>> That is shear stupidity. Run anything and yank the cord out of the wall. >>> Why specifically OE compacting? >>> "Alias" <iamalias@gmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message >>> news:g96s7o$doj$1@aioe.org... >>>> Unknown wrote: >>>>> Never had a problem with it. Why do you say dbx file structure is >>>>> frail? >>>> >>>> Want to find out the hard way? Open OE. Start compacting your messages. >>>> Pull the plug to your computer out of the wall while it's in the middle >>>> of compacting. Back up your .dbx files first ;-) >>>> >>>> Alias >>>>> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message >>>>> news:eQqnKgTCJHA.528@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>>>> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message >>>>>> news:OtBtk.19432$jI5.5277@flpi148.ffdc.sbc.com... >>>>>>> Worse than OE?????? What's wrong with OE? >>>>>> Specifically, the fragile dbx file structure is the most important >>>>>> thing wrong with OE. They fixed that in WinMail, but screwed up a >>>>>> dozen >>>>>> other things that /did/ work fine. Don't get me wrong. I like OE. But >>>>>> it needs a lot of TLC thay many people don't do because it isn't in >>>>>> Help. >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> Bruce Hagen >>>>>> MS-MVP Outlook Express >>>>>> Imperial Beach, CA >
Guest Unknown Posted August 29, 2008 Posted August 29, 2008 Re: Can Mail be used with Winxp? Any disruption can wipe out folders BUT, is that an OE program problem or the compacting program? Is all the problems caused by NORTON an XP problem????? "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message news:uKN9cdgCJHA.5012@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Yes. But it is because of the fragile dbx file system. AFAIK, e-mail > scanning does not pose such a threat in other e-mail clients. (Not that > you need e-mail scanning at all). > > As far as compacting, as Alias mentioned, any disruption of the process > can wipe out entire folders. That is why we recommend working offline when > compacting. > > I'm not picking on the big guy, just pointing out the facts. Like I said. > I'm still using OE and have no plans to go elsewhere in the foreseeable > future. > -- > > Bruce Hagen > MS-MVP Outlook Express > Imperial Beach, CA > > > "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message > news:giXtk.18206$LG4.2178@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com... >> It is not OE as the article states. It (corruption) is caused by >> NON_MICROSOFT virus scanning programs. >> Amazing how MS always gets blamed for others poor programming. Pick on >> the BIG GUY syndrome. >>> It is a known issue for over a decade now. >>> >>> Viral Irony: The Most Common Cause of Corruption. >>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/community/columns/filecorruption.mspx#EOAAC >>> >>> And: >>> http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3 >>> -- >>> >>> Bruce Hagen >>> MS-MVP Outlook Express >>> Imperial Beach, CA >>> >>> >>> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message >>> news:uoCtk.19437$jI5.3195@flpi148.ffdc.sbc.com... >>>> Never had a problem with it. Why do you say dbx file structure is >>>> frail? >>>> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message >>>> news:eQqnKgTCJHA.528@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>>> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message >>>>> news:OtBtk.19432$jI5.5277@flpi148.ffdc.sbc.com... >>>>>> Worse than OE?????? What's wrong with OE? >>>>> >>>>> Specifically, the fragile dbx file structure is the most important >>>>> thing wrong with OE. They fixed that in WinMail, but screwed up a >>>>> dozen other things that /did/ work fine. Don't get me wrong. I like >>>>> OE. But it needs a lot of TLC thay many people don't do because it >>>>> isn't in Help. >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Bruce Hagen >>>>> MS-MVP Outlook Express >>>>> Imperial Beach, CA >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >
Guest Alias Posted August 30, 2008 Posted August 30, 2008 Re: Can Mail be used with Winxp? Unknown wrote: > That is shear stupidity. Run anything and yank the cord out of the wall. T-Bird wouldn't even blink. > Why > specifically OE compacting? Due to the fragile .dbx system, of course! That said, you can lose power at any moment and those who have lost it while compacting did not like the effects on their Outhouse Distress one bit. Course, if you have a UPS, not a problem unless something else should happen while compacting. Another test is to let your default .dbx files such as Inbox grow to a size over, say, 400 MB and then do some compacting. Alias > "Alias" <iamalias@gmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message > news:g96s7o$doj$1@aioe.org... >> Unknown wrote: >>> Never had a problem with it. Why do you say dbx file structure is frail? >> Want to find out the hard way? Open OE. Start compacting your messages. >> Pull the plug to your computer out of the wall while it's in the middle of >> compacting. Back up your .dbx files first ;-) >> >> Alias >>> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message >>> news:eQqnKgTCJHA.528@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message >>>> news:OtBtk.19432$jI5.5277@flpi148.ffdc.sbc.com... >>>>> Worse than OE?????? What's wrong with OE? >>>> Specifically, the fragile dbx file structure is the most important thing >>>> wrong with OE. They fixed that in WinMail, but screwed up a dozen other >>>> things that /did/ work fine. Don't get me wrong. I like OE. But it needs >>>> a lot of TLC thay many people don't do because it isn't in Help. >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Bruce Hagen >>>> MS-MVP Outlook Express >>>> Imperial Beach, CA >>>> >>>> >
Guest Alias Posted August 30, 2008 Posted August 30, 2008 Re: Can Mail be used with Winxp? Unknown wrote: > Any disruption can wipe out folders BUT, is that an OE program problem or > the compacting program? > Is all the problems caused by NORTON an XP problem????? Norton has noting to do with the compacting program unless you use Norton to scan email and then they will conflict and it ain't pretty. Alias > "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message > news:uKN9cdgCJHA.5012@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Yes. But it is because of the fragile dbx file system. AFAIK, e-mail >> scanning does not pose such a threat in other e-mail clients. (Not that >> you need e-mail scanning at all). >> >> As far as compacting, as Alias mentioned, any disruption of the process >> can wipe out entire folders. That is why we recommend working offline when >> compacting. >> >> I'm not picking on the big guy, just pointing out the facts. Like I said. >> I'm still using OE and have no plans to go elsewhere in the foreseeable >> future. >> -- >> >> Bruce Hagen >> MS-MVP Outlook Express >> Imperial Beach, CA >> >> >> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message >> news:giXtk.18206$LG4.2178@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com... >>> It is not OE as the article states. It (corruption) is caused by >>> NON_MICROSOFT virus scanning programs. >>> Amazing how MS always gets blamed for others poor programming. Pick on >>> the BIG GUY syndrome. >>>> It is a known issue for over a decade now. >>>> >>>> Viral Irony: The Most Common Cause of Corruption. >>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/community/columns/filecorruption.mspx#EOAAC >>>> >>>> And: >>>> http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3 >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Bruce Hagen >>>> MS-MVP Outlook Express >>>> Imperial Beach, CA >>>> >>>> >>>> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message >>>> news:uoCtk.19437$jI5.3195@flpi148.ffdc.sbc.com... >>>>> Never had a problem with it. Why do you say dbx file structure is >>>>> frail? >>>>> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message >>>>> news:eQqnKgTCJHA.528@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>>>> "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message >>>>>> news:OtBtk.19432$jI5.5277@flpi148.ffdc.sbc.com... >>>>>>> Worse than OE?????? What's wrong with OE? >>>>>> Specifically, the fragile dbx file structure is the most important >>>>>> thing wrong with OE. They fixed that in WinMail, but screwed up a >>>>>> dozen other things that /did/ work fine. Don't get me wrong. I like >>>>>> OE. But it needs a lot of TLC thay many people don't do because it >>>>>> isn't in Help. >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> Bruce Hagen >>>>>> MS-MVP Outlook Express >>>>>> Imperial Beach, CA >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >
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