Guest mcv Posted August 29, 2008 Posted August 29, 2008 Hi, When I plugged the drive in "Verbatim Store n Go 1GB" after adding some files to it from another computer, as I have done many times, XP went and installed the drive as something else using different drivers! Now I have uninstalled it, rebooted, inserted the drive again and same result! It now see's it as a "USBest USB2FlashStorage USB Device". Whats going on?? How do I get it back to normal? It shows up in my computer, but when I try to open it, it says "please insert a disk in drive f:". Drive shows up as zero size. Thanks for reading, any info would be great!
Guest Paul Posted August 30, 2008 Posted August 30, 2008 Re: Verbatim Store n Go 1GB stopped working, installs wrong driverwhen plugged in. Re: Verbatim Store n Go 1GB stopped working, installs wrong driverwhen plugged in. mcv wrote: > Hi, > When I plugged the drive in "Verbatim Store n Go 1GB" after adding some > files to it from another computer, as I have done many times, XP went > and installed the drive as something else using different drivers! > Now I have uninstalled it, rebooted, inserted the drive again and same > result! > It now see's it as a "USBest USB2FlashStorage USB Device". > Whats going on?? > How do I get it back to normal? > It shows up in my computer, but when I try to open it, it says "please > insert a disk in drive f:". > Drive shows up as zero size. > Thanks for reading, any info would be great! A person here, managed to blast a flash device, by accidently overwriting sector zero. That instantly turned it into USBest USB2FlashStorage. Now, if it claims to be a CDROM and is read-only, I don't know if it is going to be that easy to repair sector zero. http://forum.hddguru.com/usb-flash-overwritten-first-512-bytes-with-t8400.html Repair recipe here. No guarantees of course. I had loads of fun, trying to use the Transcendusa.com and could not get any information on this utility. In Google, I found one post in German, where someone used the program to reformat their USB stick to full capacity. There is otherwise, little mention of it. http://www.cdfreaks.com/reviews/Traxdata-EZ-Drive-USB-2_0-Flash-Drive---Twister-512MB/Recovery.html ---> http://www.transcendusa.com/Support/DLCenter/Software/recovery_1002.exe Is there valuable data on it ? Or can you afford to try potentially destructive procedures on it ? HTH, Paul
Guest mcv Posted August 30, 2008 Posted August 30, 2008 Re: Verbatim Store n Go 1GB stopped working, installs wrong driverwhen plugged in. Re: Verbatim Store n Go 1GB stopped working, installs wrong driverwhen plugged in. Hi, Thanks for the reply! Nothin valuable I have the original data still. Just gonna have a look at the pages you mentioned, see if I can fix it. Thanks mate! Paul wrote: > mcv wrote: >> Hi, >> When I plugged the drive in "Verbatim Store n Go 1GB" after adding >> some files to it from another computer, as I have done many times, XP >> went and installed the drive as something else using different drivers! >> Now I have uninstalled it, rebooted, inserted the drive again and same >> result! >> It now see's it as a "USBest USB2FlashStorage USB Device". >> Whats going on?? >> How do I get it back to normal? >> It shows up in my computer, but when I try to open it, it says "please >> insert a disk in drive f:". >> Drive shows up as zero size. >> Thanks for reading, any info would be great! > > A person here, managed to blast a flash device, by accidently overwriting > sector zero. That instantly turned it into USBest USB2FlashStorage. > Now, if it claims to be a CDROM and is read-only, I don't know > if it is going to be that easy to repair sector zero. > > http://forum.hddguru.com/usb-flash-overwritten-first-512-bytes-with-t8400.html > > > Repair recipe here. No guarantees of course. I had loads of fun, trying to > use the Transcendusa.com and could not get any information on this > utility. In Google, I found one post in German, where someone used > the program to reformat their USB stick to full capacity. There is > otherwise, little mention of it. > > http://www.cdfreaks.com/reviews/Traxdata-EZ-Drive-USB-2_0-Flash-Drive---Twister-512MB/Recovery.html > > > ---> > http://www.transcendusa.com/Support/DLCenter/Software/recovery_1002.exe > > Is there valuable data on it ? Or can you afford to try potentially > destructive procedures on it ? > > HTH, > Paul
Guest mcv Posted August 30, 2008 Posted August 30, 2008 Re: Verbatim Store n Go 1GB stopped working, installs wrong driverwhen plugged in. Re: Verbatim Store n Go 1GB stopped working, installs wrong driverwhen plugged in. No joy. Just wish a could find the receipt take it back. But since a can't... Is there a way to change the info shown by USBView.exe? Like change the: idVendor: 0x1307 idProduct: 0x0163 back to the original? or is there more to it? So XP installs the proper driver, then I might be in with a chance? mcv wrote: > Hi, > Thanks for the reply! > Nothin valuable I have the original data still. > Just gonna have a look at the pages you mentioned, see if I can fix it. > Thanks mate! > > > Paul wrote: >> mcv wrote: >>> Hi, >>> When I plugged the drive in "Verbatim Store n Go 1GB" after adding >>> some files to it from another computer, as I have done many times, XP >>> went and installed the drive as something else using different drivers! >>> Now I have uninstalled it, rebooted, inserted the drive again and >>> same result! >>> It now see's it as a "USBest USB2FlashStorage USB Device". >>> Whats going on?? >>> How do I get it back to normal? >>> It shows up in my computer, but when I try to open it, it says >>> "please insert a disk in drive f:". >>> Drive shows up as zero size. >>> Thanks for reading, any info would be great! >> >> A person here, managed to blast a flash device, by accidently overwriting >> sector zero. That instantly turned it into USBest USB2FlashStorage. >> Now, if it claims to be a CDROM and is read-only, I don't know >> if it is going to be that easy to repair sector zero. >> >> http://forum.hddguru.com/usb-flash-overwritten-first-512-bytes-with-t8400.html >> >> >> Repair recipe here. No guarantees of course. I had loads of fun, >> trying to >> use the Transcendusa.com and could not get any information on this >> utility. In Google, I found one post in German, where someone used >> the program to reformat their USB stick to full capacity. There is >> otherwise, little mention of it. >> >> http://www.cdfreaks.com/reviews/Traxdata-EZ-Drive-USB-2_0-Flash-Drive---Twister-512MB/Recovery.html >> >> >> ---> >> http://www.transcendusa.com/Support/DLCenter/Software/recovery_1002.exe >> >> Is there valuable data on it ? Or can you afford to try potentially >> destructive procedures on it ? >> >> HTH, >> Paul
Guest Paul Posted September 1, 2008 Posted September 1, 2008 Re: Verbatim Store n Go 1GB stopped working, installs wrong driverwhen plugged in. Re: Verbatim Store n Go 1GB stopped working, installs wrong driverwhen plugged in. mcv wrote: > No joy. > Just wish a could find the receipt take it back. > > But since a can't... > Is there a way to change the info shown by USBView.exe? > Like change the: > idVendor: 0x1307 > idProduct: 0x0163 > > back to the original? or is there more to it? > > So XP installs the proper driver, then I might be in with a chance? > This is from the usb.ids file I have on disk. 1307 Dikom 0163 512MB USB Flash Drive It would appear they've been bought out (the chip maker, that is). This is the latest version of the usb.ids from http://www.linux-usb.org/usb.ids 1307 Transcend Information, Inc. 0163 512MB USB Flash Drive <--- 1169 TS2GJF210 JetFlash 210 2GB Now, the first observation, is your Verbatim product is 1GB, and the declaration here is 512MB. It is always possible the controller chip, supports larger flash chips. (The designs tend to be two chips - controller and flash.) You'll also notice that Verbatim is not in the USB list. While chips do have the option to have their enumeration information changed (or for additional info to be used to distinguish them), it could be that the 1307 0163 is "normal" for the product. I don't know of a way to prove that though. With flash memory, I suppose if they were really clever, all the enum could be stored on the flash itself. I don't know anything about that industry at all, in terms of design practices. One thing that is strange, is if Verbatim offers a limited lifetime warranty, then why would they need a sales slip ? Are they worried about counterfeits ? You'd think it would be a simple matter of sending it to them, and them deciding whether to fix it or not. I looked for software on the Verbatim site, like a recovery program, but don't see anything that looks interesting. Paul > > mcv wrote: >> Hi, >> Thanks for the reply! >> Nothin valuable I have the original data still. >> Just gonna have a look at the pages you mentioned, see if I can fix it. >> Thanks mate! >> >> >> Paul wrote: >>> mcv wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> When I plugged the drive in "Verbatim Store n Go 1GB" after adding >>>> some files to it from another computer, as I have done many times, >>>> XP went and installed the drive as something else using different >>>> drivers! >>>> Now I have uninstalled it, rebooted, inserted the drive again and >>>> same result! >>>> It now see's it as a "USBest USB2FlashStorage USB Device". >>>> Whats going on?? >>>> How do I get it back to normal? >>>> It shows up in my computer, but when I try to open it, it says >>>> "please insert a disk in drive f:". >>>> Drive shows up as zero size. >>>> Thanks for reading, any info would be great! >>> >>> A person here, managed to blast a flash device, by accidently >>> overwriting >>> sector zero. That instantly turned it into USBest USB2FlashStorage. >>> Now, if it claims to be a CDROM and is read-only, I don't know >>> if it is going to be that easy to repair sector zero. >>> >>> http://forum.hddguru.com/usb-flash-overwritten-first-512-bytes-with-t8400.html >>> >>> >>> Repair recipe here. No guarantees of course. I had loads of fun, >>> trying to >>> use the Transcendusa.com and could not get any information on this >>> utility. In Google, I found one post in German, where someone used >>> the program to reformat their USB stick to full capacity. There is >>> otherwise, little mention of it. >>> >>> http://www.cdfreaks.com/reviews/Traxdata-EZ-Drive-USB-2_0-Flash-Drive---Twister-512MB/Recovery.html >>> >>> >>> ---> >>> http://www.transcendusa.com/Support/DLCenter/Software/recovery_1002.exe >>> >>> Is there valuable data on it ? Or can you afford to try potentially >>> destructive procedures on it ? >>> >>> HTH, >>> Paul
Guest Paul Posted September 1, 2008 Posted September 1, 2008 Re: Verbatim Store n Go 1GB stopped working, installs wrong driverwhen plugged in. Re: Verbatim Store n Go 1GB stopped working, installs wrong driverwhen plugged in. Paul wrote: > mcv wrote: >> No joy. >> Just wish a could find the receipt take it back. >> >> But since a can't... >> Is there a way to change the info shown by USBView.exe? >> Like change the: >> idVendor: 0x1307 >> idProduct: 0x0163 >> >> back to the original? or is there more to it? >> >> So XP installs the proper driver, then I might be in with a chance? >> > > This is from the usb.ids file I have on disk. > > 1307 Dikom > 0163 512MB USB Flash Drive > > It would appear they've been bought out (the chip maker, that is). > This is the latest version of the usb.ids from > http://www.linux-usb.org/usb.ids > > 1307 Transcend Information, Inc. > 0163 512MB USB Flash Drive <--- > 1169 TS2GJF210 JetFlash 210 2GB > > Now, the first observation, is your Verbatim product is 1GB, > and the declaration here is 512MB. It is always possible the > controller chip, supports larger flash chips. (The designs tend > to be two chips - controller and flash.) > > You'll also notice that Verbatim is not in the > USB list. While chips do have the option to have > their enumeration information changed (or for > additional info to be used to distinguish them), > it could be that the 1307 0163 is "normal" for > the product. I don't know of a way to prove that > though. With flash memory, I suppose if they were > really clever, all the enum could be stored on the > flash itself. I don't know anything about that > industry at all, in terms of design practices. > > One thing that is strange, is if Verbatim offers > a limited lifetime warranty, then why would they > need a sales slip ? Are they worried about > counterfeits ? You'd think it would be a simple > matter of sending it to them, and them deciding > whether to fix it or not. > > I looked for software on the Verbatim site, like > a recovery program, but don't see anything that > looks interesting. > > Paul > It gets more interesting. There is an actual USBest and one of their USB flash controller product pages mentions "customized vid/pid and serial number". So it could be that there is an actual USBest chip inside the stick, and its custom ID is changed ? What I cannot determine, is what it might have been when the stick was new. (The USB.ids file is an informal record of enum information. There is one for PCI as well. The official record is kept sealed, as that way, companies can work on new products, without them being announced to the world. It is only after someone tries a real device and submits an entry to those files, that the informal file gets updated.) http://www.usbest.com.tw/EN/index.aspx The USBest site is hard to navigate. I did find a product page of sorts, but no datasheets. I started investigating that website, after I found some pictures of USB flash sticks and what chips are used. One of the first pictures I saw, had a USBest chip in it. http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=2549 The datasheet for a USBest chip is a writeoff. There is nothing of value in here. How very clever of them. This site archives datasheets, so at least one of them got loose into the wild. There is no description of startup, what info the controller gets from the flash, or anything. http://www.datasheet4u.com/download.php?id=612845 Paul
Guest mcv Posted September 1, 2008 Posted September 1, 2008 Re: Verbatim Store n Go 1GB stopped working, installs wrong driverwhen plugged in. Re: Verbatim Store n Go 1GB stopped working, installs wrong driverwhen plugged in. Hi mate, Thanks for taking the time with this. I'm still waiting on Verbatim getting back to me. If a dont get it replaced i'll open it up and find what chip is actually in it. Having a look thru what you came up with. Thanks Paul wrote: > Paul wrote: >> mcv wrote: >>> No joy. >>> Just wish a could find the receipt take it back. >>> >>> But since a can't... >>> Is there a way to change the info shown by USBView.exe? >>> Like change the: >>> idVendor: 0x1307 >>> idProduct: 0x0163 >>> >>> back to the original? or is there more to it? >>> >>> So XP installs the proper driver, then I might be in with a chance? >>> >> >> This is from the usb.ids file I have on disk. >> >> 1307 Dikom >> 0163 512MB USB Flash Drive >> >> It would appear they've been bought out (the chip maker, that is). >> This is the latest version of the usb.ids from >> http://www.linux-usb.org/usb.ids >> >> 1307 Transcend Information, Inc. >> 0163 512MB USB Flash Drive <--- >> 1169 TS2GJF210 JetFlash 210 2GB >> >> Now, the first observation, is your Verbatim product is 1GB, >> and the declaration here is 512MB. It is always possible the >> controller chip, supports larger flash chips. (The designs tend >> to be two chips - controller and flash.) >> >> You'll also notice that Verbatim is not in the >> USB list. While chips do have the option to have >> their enumeration information changed (or for >> additional info to be used to distinguish them), >> it could be that the 1307 0163 is "normal" for >> the product. I don't know of a way to prove that >> though. With flash memory, I suppose if they were >> really clever, all the enum could be stored on the >> flash itself. I don't know anything about that >> industry at all, in terms of design practices. >> >> One thing that is strange, is if Verbatim offers >> a limited lifetime warranty, then why would they >> need a sales slip ? Are they worried about >> counterfeits ? You'd think it would be a simple >> matter of sending it to them, and them deciding >> whether to fix it or not. >> >> I looked for software on the Verbatim site, like >> a recovery program, but don't see anything that >> looks interesting. >> >> Paul >> > > It gets more interesting. There is an actual USBest > and one of their USB flash controller product pages > mentions "customized vid/pid and serial number". So it > could be that there is an actual USBest chip inside > the stick, and its custom ID is changed ? What I cannot > determine, is what it might have been when the stick > was new. (The USB.ids file is an informal record > of enum information. There is one for PCI as well. > The official record is kept sealed, as that way, > companies can work on new products, without them > being announced to the world. It is only after > someone tries a real device and submits an entry > to those files, that the informal file gets updated.) > > http://www.usbest.com.tw/EN/index.aspx > > The USBest site is hard to navigate. I did find a > product page of sorts, but no datasheets. > > I started investigating that website, after I found > some pictures of USB flash sticks and what chips > are used. One of the first pictures I saw, had a > USBest chip in it. > > http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=2549 > > The datasheet for a USBest chip is a writeoff. There > is nothing of value in here. How very clever of them. > This site archives datasheets, so at least one of > them got loose into the wild. There is no description > of startup, what info the controller gets from > the flash, or anything. > > http://www.datasheet4u.com/download.php?id=612845 > > Paul
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