Moving drive to new computer - file access

[Guest Ragnar Midtskogen]

Hi,

 

A friend of mine had a problem with his computer, Windows could not start.

When visiting his house I tried repairing Windows by using the restore CD

that came with PC, but got message that some files could not be found.

Gave up and suggested my friend try to move HD to another PC with Win XP, as

a secondary or a slave drive.

He says he did and the drive was recognized OK.

The original PC had several users, and now he say he can't see any of the

files for the other users.

Does anyone know any reason why this should happen?

As far as I know, you should be able to see all the files when using Windows

Explorer, but you can not edit any files belonging to a different user.

I am not sure what the effect is on moving HD to anothe PC, even if userid

is the same.

Any help on ths would be appreciated. It is hard to debug a problem like

this via Email.

 

Ragnar

[Guest Pegasus \(MVP\)]

Re: Moving drive to new computer - file access

 

 

"Ragnar Midtskogen" <ragnar_ng@newsgroups.com> wrote in message

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> Hi,

>

> A friend of mine had a problem with his computer, Windows could not start.

> When visiting his house I tried repairing Windows by using the restore CD

> that came with PC, but got message that some files could not be found.

> Gave up and suggested my friend try to move HD to another PC with Win XP,

> as a secondary or a slave drive.

> He says he did and the drive was recognized OK.

> The original PC had several users, and now he say he can't see any of the

> files for the other users.

> Does anyone know any reason why this should happen?

> As far as I know, you should be able to see all the files when using

> Windows Explorer, but you can not edit any files belonging to a different

> user.

> I am not sure what the effect is on moving HD to anothe PC, even if userid

> is the same.

> Any help on ths would be appreciated. It is hard to debug a problem like

> this via Email.

>

> Ragnar

 

You need to seize ownership of the inaccessible folders. Click Start / Help

and look for help on "Ownership" if unsure how it's done.

[Guest Kelly]

Re: Moving drive to new computer - file access

 

HOW TO: Take Ownership of a File or Folder in Windows XP

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q308421

 

HOW TO: Set, View, Change, or Remove File and Folder Permissions

http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q308/4/18.asp

 

 

--

 

All the Best,

Kelly (MS-MVP/DTS&XP)

 

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"Ragnar Midtskogen" <ragnar_ng@newsgroups.com> wrote in message

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> Hi,

>

> A friend of mine had a problem with his computer, Windows could not start.

> When visiting his house I tried repairing Windows by using the restore CD

> that came with PC, but got message that some files could not be found.

> Gave up and suggested my friend try to move HD to another PC with Win XP,

> as a secondary or a slave drive.

> He says he did and the drive was recognized OK.

> The original PC had several users, and now he say he can't see any of the

> files for the other users.

> Does anyone know any reason why this should happen?

> As far as I know, you should be able to see all the files when using

> Windows Explorer, but you can not edit any files belonging to a different

> user.

> I am not sure what the effect is on moving HD to anothe PC, even if userid

> is the same.

> Any help on ths would be appreciated. It is hard to debug a problem like

> this via Email.

>

> Ragnar

>

[Guest Pegasus \(MVP\)]

Re: Moving drive to new computer - file access

 

While the links you provide are highly informative, I believe there is

benefit in getting posters to use the extensive help functions built into

Windows. Once they acquire the habit of using Windows Help, there is no need

for them to memorise numerous links in order to resolve most of their

everyday-problems. In other words, posters become self-sufficient instead of

having to post here for a link that answers their specific question.

 

 

"Kelly" <kelly@kelly.com> wrote in message

news:uSsjc3sCJHA.4724@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> HOW TO: Take Ownership of a File or Folder in Windows XP

> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q308421

>

> HOW TO: Set, View, Change, or Remove File and Folder Permissions

> http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q308/4/18.asp

>

>

> --

>

> All the Best,

> Kelly (MS-MVP/DTS&XP)

>

> Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!

> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm

>

> SupportSpace

> http://www.supportspace.com/pages?aiu=kellyskorner

>

> "Ragnar Midtskogen" <ragnar_ng@newsgroups.com> wrote in message

> news:u0ml5xpCJHA.3432@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> Hi,

>>

>> A friend of mine had a problem with his computer, Windows could not

>> start.

>> When visiting his house I tried repairing Windows by using the restore CD

>> that came with PC, but got message that some files could not be found.

>> Gave up and suggested my friend try to move HD to another PC with Win XP,

>> as a secondary or a slave drive.

>> He says he did and the drive was recognized OK.

>> The original PC had several users, and now he say he can't see any of the

>> files for the other users.

>> Does anyone know any reason why this should happen?

>> As far as I know, you should be able to see all the files when using

>> Windows Explorer, but you can not edit any files belonging to a different

>> user.

>> I am not sure what the effect is on moving HD to anothe PC, even if

>> userid is the same.

>> Any help on ths would be appreciated. It is hard to debug a problem like

>> this via Email.

>>

>> Ragnar

>>

>

[Guest Nepatsfan]

Re: Moving drive to new computer - file access

 

Any user who has XP Home Edition installed on their computer will get nowhere

following your advice to look in Help and Support for information about

Ownership. The listing of "Take ownership of a file or folder" that appears

under Pick a task in XP Pro's Help and Support is missing in XP HE. There's a

listing of "Change a file or folder's permissions" which when clicked on in XP

HE will show a "Cannot display the page" error message. Where would you like us

to go from here?

 

At least the links that Kelly has passed on will point out the fact that you

need to boot into Safe Mode if you're going to attempt to take ownership of a

folder in XP HE.

 

Before you try to play the "teach a man to fish" game you might want to consider

that we're not all using the same bait.

 

Nepatsfan

 

 

"Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message

news:OeC4SitCJHA.1632@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> While the links you provide are highly informative, I believe there is benefit

> in getting posters to use the extensive help functions built into Windows.

> Once they acquire the habit of using Windows Help, there is no need for them

> to memorise numerous links in order to resolve most of their

> everyday-problems. In other words, posters become self-sufficient instead of

> having to post here for a link that answers their specific question.

>

>

> "Kelly" <kelly@kelly.com> wrote in message

> news:uSsjc3sCJHA.4724@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> HOW TO: Take Ownership of a File or Folder in Windows XP

>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q308421

>>

>> HOW TO: Set, View, Change, or Remove File and Folder Permissions

>> http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q308/4/18.asp

>>

>>

>> --

>>

>> All the Best,

>> Kelly (MS-MVP/DTS&XP)

>>

>> Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!

>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm

>>

>> SupportSpace

>> http://www.supportspace.com/pages?aiu=kellyskorner

>>

>> "Ragnar Midtskogen" <ragnar_ng@newsgroups.com> wrote in message

>> news:u0ml5xpCJHA.3432@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>> Hi,

>>>

>>> A friend of mine had a problem with his computer, Windows could not start.

>>> When visiting his house I tried repairing Windows by using the restore CD

>>> that came with PC, but got message that some files could not be found.

>>> Gave up and suggested my friend try to move HD to another PC with Win XP, as

>>> a secondary or a slave drive.

>>> He says he did and the drive was recognized OK.

>>> The original PC had several users, and now he say he can't see any of the

>>> files for the other users.

>>> Does anyone know any reason why this should happen?

>>> As far as I know, you should be able to see all the files when using Windows

>>> Explorer, but you can not edit any files belonging to a different user.

>>> I am not sure what the effect is on moving HD to anothe PC, even if userid

>>> is the same.

>>> Any help on ths would be appreciated. It is hard to debug a problem like

>>> this via Email.

>>>

>>> Ragnar

>>>

>>

>

>

[Guest Pegasus \(MVP\)]

Re: Moving drive to new computer - file access

 

 

"Nepatsfan" <nepatsfan@SBXXXIX.com> wrote in message

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> Any user who has XP Home Edition installed on their computer will get

> nowhere following your advice to look in Help and Support for information

> about Ownership. The listing of "Take ownership of a file or folder" that

> appears under Pick a task in XP Pro's Help and Support is missing in XP

> HE. There's a listing of "Change a file or folder's permissions" which

> when clicked on in XP HE will show a "Cannot display the page" error

> message. Where would you like us to go from here?

>

> At least the links that Kelly has passed on will point out the fact that

> you need to boot into Safe Mode if you're going to attempt to take

> ownership of a folder in XP HE.

>

> Before you try to play the "teach a man to fish" game you might want to

> consider that we're not all using the same bait.

>

> Nepatsfan

 

Gulp. If you had told me a few days ago that the security/ownership stuff

under WinXP Home is only accessible in Safe Mode then I would have doubted

you. If you had told me that the inbuilt help facility under WinXP Home has

nothing of any use to say about these subjects then I would have said you're

wrong. In the meantime I've built myself a WinXP Home system and found both

claims to be correct. I'm amazed that Microsoft could be so remiss when

documenting the file/folder security features of WinXP Home. Kelly's advice

was, of course, totally appropriate.

[Guest Twayne]

Re: Moving drive to new computer - file access

 

> "Nepatsfan" <nepatsfan@SBXXXIX.com> wrote in message

> news:u8Pj30tCJHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> Any user who has XP Home Edition installed on their computer will get

>> nowhere following your advice to look in Help and Support for

>> information about Ownership. The listing of "Take ownership of a

>> file or folder" that appears under Pick a task in XP Pro's Help and

>> Support is missing in XP HE. There's a listing of "Change a file or

>> folder's permissions" which when clicked on in XP HE will show a

>> "Cannot display the page" error message. Where would you like us to

>> go from here? At least the links that Kelly has passed on will point

>> out the fact

>> that you need to boot into Safe Mode if you're going to attempt to

>> take ownership of a folder in XP HE.

>>

>> Before you try to play the "teach a man to fish" game you might want

>> to consider that we're not all using the same bait.

>>

>> Nepatsfan

>

> Gulp. If you had told me a few days ago that the security/ownership

> stuff under WinXP Home is only accessible in Safe Mode then I would

> have doubted you. If you had told me that the inbuilt help facility

> under WinXP Home has nothing of any use to say about these subjects

> then I would have said you're wrong. In the meantime I've built

> myself a WinXP Home system and found both claims to be correct. I'm

> amazed that Microsoft could be so remiss when documenting the

> file/folder security features of WinXP Home. Kelly's advice was, of

> course, totally appropriate.

 

I firmly believe most of the Help files for windows are written either

by the engineers themselves or ex-engineers of other programs as opposed

to technical writers with any interpersonal skills or pshychology

awareness. They're good at links and extra topics, but boy, they can't

seem to pull things together into one place when all it would take is

one or two more sentences.!

The "secret" of Safe Mode of course is that in Home, the Simple File

Shareing is turned off and you're allowed to see/use the Security tab of

the Properties windows. But darned if they just come out and say that

anywhere I've ever noticed. Help is helpful in some areas though.

 

Cheers,

 

Twayne