Guest ShadowTek Posted August 30, 2008 Posted August 30, 2008 I have an external serial modem that is run through a serial-to-USB converter. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16825134002 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812107956 &Tpk=trendnet%2busb%2bserial It will occationally hang, and the the only way to get back control of the modem is to reboot the computer. When I query to modem from the control panel, it says: "The port that the modem is using is currently open by another application. Exit any application that may currently be using the port." I don't know what could be causing the problem. I have tried disabling all other needless applications that run in the background, but that is still no change. Anybody got any ideas of other things that I can try?
Guest Andrew E. Posted August 31, 2008 Posted August 31, 2008 RE: External Dail-Up USB-to-Serial Modem Hangs and Requires Reboot To RE: External Dail-Up USB-to-Serial Modem Hangs and Requires Reboot To Serial ports & paralel ports seem obsolete these days,why not purchase a USB modem,the interface is much faster. "ShadowTek" wrote: > I have an external serial modem that is run through a serial-to-USB > converter. > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16825134002 > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812107956 > &Tpk=trendnet%2busb%2bserial > > It will occationally hang, and the the only way to get back control of the > modem is to reboot the computer. When I query to modem from the control > panel, it says: "The port that the modem is using is currently open by > another application. Exit any application that may currently be using the > port." > > I don't know what could be causing the problem. I have tried disabling all > other needless applications that run in the background, but that is still > no change. > > Anybody got any ideas of other things that I can try? >
Guest ShadowTek Posted August 31, 2008 Posted August 31, 2008 RE: External Dail-Up USB-to-Serial Modem Hangs and Requires Reboot To RE: External Dail-Up USB-to-Serial Modem Hangs and Requires Reboot To =?Utf-8?B?QW5kcmV3IEUu?= <eckrichco@msn.com> wrote in news:A96AA5DD-6220- 4A70-9345-4E7DD2963550@microsoft.com: > Serial ports & paralel ports seem obsolete these days,why not purchase > a USB modem,the interface is much faster. It's just a dailup modem, so I don't need a faster interface. Besides, I bought this so that it would work with both Windows and Linux, as I have already gone through hell trying to get the old soft modem to work with Linux. I also wanted to have a serial modem around in case I needed to use it with any older computers. Besides, there's no sense in spending any more money if I don't know what the problem is. I might buy and install a new hardware modem just to end up having the same persistant issue to deal with.
Guest V Green Posted August 31, 2008 Posted August 31, 2008 Re: External Dail-Up USB-to-Serial Modem Hangs and Requires Reboot To Re: External Dail-Up USB-to-Serial Modem Hangs and Requires Reboot To FWIW, I use a USB-SER cable to use my Kyocera cellphone as an AT-compatible modem, not quite the same, but a similar situation. If the connection barfs, I also have to restart the system to clear the "port is already open" stuff. Even unplugging and reconnecting the USB-SER cable won't do it. So, it's a problem likely not specific to your setup, but more of a flaw within the driver for the USB adapter cable. You might try this (just occurred to me and I haven't): Next time it happens, disable then enable the USB-SER hdwe. from Device Manager. "ShadowTek" <FAKE@EMAIL.ADDRESS> wrote in message news:Xns9B0B55DB62CFpsistormyamatocscom@85.214.90.236... > =?Utf-8?B?QW5kcmV3IEUu?= <eckrichco@msn.com> wrote in news:A96AA5DD-6220- > 4A70-9345-4E7DD2963550@microsoft.com: > > > Serial ports & paralel ports seem obsolete these days,why not purchase > > a USB modem,the interface is much faster. > > It's just a dailup modem, so I don't need a faster interface. Besides, I > bought this so that it would work with both Windows and Linux, as I have > already gone through hell trying to get the old soft modem to work with > Linux. > > I also wanted to have a serial modem around in case I needed to use it with > any older computers. > > Besides, there's no sense in spending any more money if I don't know what > the problem is. I might buy and install a new hardware modem just to end up > having the same persistant issue to deal with.
Guest ShadowTek Posted August 31, 2008 Posted August 31, 2008 Re: External Dail-Up USB-to-Serial Modem Hangs and Requires Reboot To Re: External Dail-Up USB-to-Serial Modem Hangs and Requires Reboot To "V Green" <vanceg@nowhere.net> wrote in news:OQD6ej4CJHA.1228 @TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl: > FWIW, I use a USB-SER cable to use my > Kyocera cellphone as an AT-compatible modem, > not quite the same, but a similar situation. > > If the connection barfs, I also have to restart the system > to clear the "port is already open" stuff. Even unplugging > and reconnecting the USB-SER cable won't do it. So, it's a > problem likely not specific to your setup, but more of > a flaw within the driver for the USB adapter cable. > > You might try this (just occurred to me and I haven't): > > Next time it happens, disable then enable the USB-SER > hdwe. from Device Manager. The problem is that I need some kind of automated solution to the problem, so that I can keep my connection active as much as possible. I thought that, if nothing else, I could make some kind of script that would periodically check for successful pings to various servers, and if all pings failed, then the modem has hung, and the system can be automatically rebooted. The problem with this idea is that the system sometimes get hung so bad that I can't do a soft reboot. And if I can't do a soft reboot, then I can't automate the process.
Guest V Green Posted August 31, 2008 Posted August 31, 2008 Re: External Dail-Up USB-to-Serial Modem Hangs and Requires Reboot To Re: External Dail-Up USB-to-Serial Modem Hangs and Requires Reboot To "ShadowTek" <FAKE@EMAIL.ADDRESS> wrote in message news:Xns9B0B89781869Apsistormyamatocscom@85.214.90.236... > "V Green" <vanceg@nowhere.net> wrote in news:OQD6ej4CJHA.1228 > @TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl: > > > FWIW, I use a USB-SER cable to use my > > Kyocera cellphone as an AT-compatible modem, > > not quite the same, but a similar situation. > > > > If the connection barfs, I also have to restart the system > > to clear the "port is already open" stuff. Even unplugging > > and reconnecting the USB-SER cable won't do it. So, it's a > > problem likely not specific to your setup, but more of > > a flaw within the driver for the USB adapter cable. > > > > You might try this (just occurred to me and I haven't): > > > > Next time it happens, disable then enable the USB-SER > > hdwe. from Device Manager. > > The problem is that I need some kind of automated solution to the problem, > so that I can keep my connection active as much as possible. I thought > that, if nothing else, I could make some kind of script that would > periodically check for successful pings to various servers, and if all > pings failed, then the modem has hung, and the system can be automatically > rebooted. The problem with this idea is that the system sometimes get hung > so bad that I can't do a soft reboot. And if I can't do a soft reboot, then > I can't automate the process. I believe that I have seen code to disable/enable devices that show up in Device Manager. If disabling/enabling the port/cable revives the device then you could go this route rather than rebooting the entire system. Try Google. Also, it isn't necessary to ping things to find out whether or not the modem has hung. Simply issuing an AT command and looking for the OK response (after enabling verbose mode, etc.) will keep things local. No OK, no comm. For testing purposes, you can probably initiate a "hung" state by disconnecting the RJ-45 cable from the modem while it's in use. Or by pulling the USB cable from the computer while off-hook. If that works, you have all the necessary tools to write your own custom solution, which it sounds like you will need to do, given the description of your situation.
Guest ShadowTek Posted August 31, 2008 Posted August 31, 2008 Re: External Dail-Up USB-to-Serial Modem Hangs and Requires Reboot To Re: External Dail-Up USB-to-Serial Modem Hangs and Requires Reboot To "V Green" <vanceg@nowhere.net> wrote in news:#qaajN5CJHA.4340 @TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl: > I believe that I have seen code to disable/enable devices > that show up in Device Manager. If disabling/enabling > the port/cable revives the device then you could go this > route rather than rebooting the entire system. Try Google. > > Also, it isn't necessary to ping things to find out whether > or not the modem has hung. Simply issuing an AT command > and looking for the OK response (after enabling verbose mode, > etc.) will keep things local. No OK, no comm. > > For testing purposes, you can probably initiate a "hung" > state by disconnecting the RJ-45 cable from the modem while > it's in use. Or by pulling the USB cable from the computer > while off-hook. > > If that works, you have all the necessary tools to write your > own custom solution, which it sounds like you will need to > do, given the description of your situation. I found a Microsoft application, called DevCon, that claims to give command line control over devices. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/311272 I'll play with that if simply disabling the device solves the problem. Thanks.
Guest ShadowTek Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 Re: External Dail-Up USB-to-Serial Modem Hangs and Requires Reboot To Re: External Dail-Up USB-to-Serial Modem Hangs and Requires Reboot To "V Green" <vanceg@nowhere.net> wrote in news:#qaajN5CJHA.4340@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl: > I believe that I have seen code to disable/enable devices > that show up in Device Manager. If disabling/enabling > the port/cable revives the device then you could go this > route rather than rebooting the entire system. Try Google. > > Also, it isn't necessary to ping things to find out whether > or not the modem has hung. Simply issuing an AT command > and looking for the OK response (after enabling verbose mode, > etc.) will keep things local. No OK, no comm. > > For testing purposes, you can probably initiate a "hung" > state by disconnecting the RJ-45 cable from the modem while > it's in use. Or by pulling the USB cable from the computer > while off-hook. > > If that works, you have all the necessary tools to write your > own custom solution, which it sounds like you will need to > do, given the description of your situation. It happened again. I tried disabling the modem, but there was no change. I also tried disabling the serial to USB adapter, but that also did nothing. And, once again, I could not soft reboot, so I can't figure out any other way to automatically deal with the problem.
Guest V Green Posted September 4, 2008 Posted September 4, 2008 Re: External Dail-Up USB-to-Serial Modem Hangs and Requires Reboot To Re: External Dail-Up USB-to-Serial Modem Hangs and Requires Reboot To "ShadowTek" <FAKE@EMAIL.ADDRESS> wrote in message news:Xns9B0EE75761psistormyamatocscom@85.214.90.236... > "V Green" <vanceg@nowhere.net> wrote in > news:#qaajN5CJHA.4340@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl: > > > I believe that I have seen code to disable/enable devices > > that show up in Device Manager. If disabling/enabling > > the port/cable revives the device then you could go this > > route rather than rebooting the entire system. Try Google. > > > > Also, it isn't necessary to ping things to find out whether > > or not the modem has hung. Simply issuing an AT command > > and looking for the OK response (after enabling verbose mode, > > etc.) will keep things local. No OK, no comm. > > > > For testing purposes, you can probably initiate a "hung" > > state by disconnecting the RJ-45 cable from the modem while > > it's in use. Or by pulling the USB cable from the computer > > while off-hook. > > > > If that works, you have all the necessary tools to write your > > own custom solution, which it sounds like you will need to > > do, given the description of your situation. > > It happened again. I tried disabling the modem, but there was no change. I > also tried disabling the serial to USB adapter, but that also did nothing. > And, once again, I could not soft reboot, so I can't figure out any other > way to automatically deal with the problem. Time for different / newer hardware, sounds like.
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