Guest Steve Miller Posted August 31, 2008 Posted August 31, 2008 Hello NG! I haven't found an other more specific NG on the question I want to ask. That's why I'm going to ask my question here. Can I restore an image of my pc with Microsoft Virtual PC so I'll find everything as I left it? I know it's said to function but I hardly can think it's true. I have reinstalled Window several times after hard drive failures or on new computers as well. I made backups of my files and I'm also familiar with restoring these files. Only thing are program settings I had to restore manually, which was getting tiring today ( due to the number of programs installed ). Steve
Guest Michael Jennings Posted August 31, 2008 Posted August 31, 2008 Re: Micrsoft Virtual PC backup image of my C: hard drive You certainly can restore an image of your PC so that you will find everything as you left it when you made the image if you buy an imaging program such as Acronis, Ghost, or BING (BootItNextGeneration). Who says you can do this with Virtual PC? "It is said to function..." I can hardly believe it either - it sounds like a run your car on water ad. "Steve Miller" <misterblues39@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:eqT6Gf3CJHA.528@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Hello NG! > > I haven't found an other more specific NG on the question I want to ask. > That's why > I'm going to ask my question here. > > Can I restore an image of my pc with Microsoft Virtual PC so I'll find > everything > as I left it? > > I know it's said to function but I hardly can think it's true. I have > reinstalled > Window several times after hard drive failures or on new computers as well. > > I made backups of my files and I'm also familiar with restoring these files. > Only thing > are program settings I had to restore manually, which was getting tiring today > ( > due to the number of programs installed ). > > Steve > >
Guest John Barnett MVP Posted August 31, 2008 Posted August 31, 2008 Re: Micrsoft Virtual PC backup image of my C: hard drive Virtual PC is not used for 'backing up' or 'imaging' your hard drive. It is virtual machine software that allows you to run another operating system on your pc at the same time as your default operating system. If you want to backup/image the whole of your drive (or jut a partition) then you need third party software such as Acronis True Image currently version 11 is available, but a newer versions - version 2009 is in current beta test.) Acronis is the application I use to image my hard drive. -- -- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert Windows Desktop Experience Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org Web: http://www.silversurferguide.org The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this mail/post.. "Steve Miller" <misterblues39@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:eqT6Gf3CJHA.528@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Hello NG! > > I haven't found an other more specific NG on the question I want to ask. > That's why > I'm going to ask my question here. > > Can I restore an image of my pc with Microsoft Virtual PC so I'll find > everything > as I left it? > > I know it's said to function but I hardly can think it's true. I have > reinstalled > Window several times after hard drive failures or on new computers as > well. > > I made backups of my files and I'm also familiar with restoring these > files. Only thing > are program settings I had to restore manually, which was getting tiring > today ( > due to the number of programs installed ). > > Steve > >
Guest Steve Miller Posted August 31, 2008 Posted August 31, 2008 Re: Micrsoft Virtual PC backup image of my C: hard drive "John Barnett MVP" <freelance@invalid.invalid> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:O9UaTm4CJHA.5196@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Virtual PC is not used for 'backing up' or 'imaging' your hard drive. It is virtual machine software that allows you to run > another operating system on your pc at the same time as your default operating system. > > If you want to backup/image the whole of your drive (or jut a partition) then you need third party software such as Acronis True > Image currently version 11 is available, but a newer versions - version 2009 is in current beta test.) Acronis is the application > I use to image my hard drive. > > -- > > -- > John Barnett MVP > Associate Expert > Windows Desktop Experience > > Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org > Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org > Web: http://www.silversurferguide.org > > The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any > kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, > reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for > any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the > use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this > mail/post.. > > > "Steve Miller" <misterblues39@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:eqT6Gf3CJHA.528@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> Hello NG! >> >> I haven't found an other more specific NG on the question I want to ask. That's why >> I'm going to ask my question here. >> >> Can I restore an image of my pc with Microsoft Virtual PC so I'll find everything >> as I left it? >> >> I know it's said to function but I hardly can think it's true. I have reinstalled >> Window several times after hard drive failures or on new computers as well. >> >> I made backups of my files and I'm also familiar with restoring these files. Only thing >> are program settings I had to restore manually, which was getting tiring today ( >> due to the number of programs installed ). >> >> Steve >> >> Thank you both. It's here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_disk_imaging_software#Hard_disks Listed under hard disks. How do I have to visualize how his works. Steve
Guest John Barnett MVP Posted August 31, 2008 Posted August 31, 2008 Re: Micrsoft Virtual PC backup image of my C: hard drive You create a backup image and store that image either on another hard drive or a set of DVD's. When you need to re-image your hard drive just re-start acronis (if you are able to access your PC and point acronis to the backup file and acronis will re-image your drive with the copy stored in the backup file. If you can't access your operating system use the emergency backup disk which you should create. This allows you to start he process of re-imaging from within the pre-windows environment (bit like the old DOS) The same applies to using the DVD's. make sure you tell acronis to install the recovery manager files onto the DVD then it is simply a case of inserting the DVD into your DVD drive, restarting our PC, booting to the Acronis menu and selecting Restore. All you do then is follow he onscreen prompts. Incidentally, with DVD's after booting to the acronis menu using your first disc, you then put the last disc into the drive 'before' trying to access your DVD-ROM. To be honest it is harder to explain the process than actually, physically, doing it. I suggest you visit http://www.acronis.com for more information on the product. -- -- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert Windows Desktop Experience Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org Web: http://www.silversurferguide.org The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this mail/post.. "Steve Miller" <misterblues39@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:O#0nyq4CJHA.5196@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > "John Barnett MVP" <freelance@invalid.invalid> schrieb im Newsbeitrag > news:O9UaTm4CJHA.5196@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> Virtual PC is not used for 'backing up' or 'imaging' your hard drive. It >> is virtual machine software that allows you to run another operating >> system on your pc at the same time as your default operating system. >> >> If you want to backup/image the whole of your drive (or jut a partition) >> then you need third party software such as Acronis True Image currently >> version 11 is available, but a newer versions - version 2009 is in >> current beta test.) Acronis is the application I use to image my hard >> drive. >> >> -- >> >> -- >> John Barnett MVP >> Associate Expert >> Windows Desktop Experience >> >> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org >> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org >> Web: http://www.silversurferguide.org >> >> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any >> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, >> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable >> for >> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of >> the >> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this >> mail/post.. >> >> >> "Steve Miller" <misterblues39@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:eqT6Gf3CJHA.528@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>> Hello NG! >>> >>> I haven't found an other more specific NG on the question I want to >>> ask. That's why >>> I'm going to ask my question here. >>> >>> Can I restore an image of my pc with Microsoft Virtual PC so I'll find >>> everything >>> as I left it? >>> >>> I know it's said to function but I hardly can think it's true. I have >>> reinstalled >>> Window several times after hard drive failures or on new computers as >>> well. >>> >>> I made backups of my files and I'm also familiar with restoring these >>> files. Only thing >>> are program settings I had to restore manually, which was getting tiring >>> today ( >>> due to the number of programs installed ). >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> > > Thank you both. > > It's here. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_disk_imaging_software#Hard_disks > > Listed under hard disks. > > How do I have to visualize how his works. > > Steve >
Guest Rob Posted August 31, 2008 Posted August 31, 2008 Re: Micrsoft Virtual PC backup image of my C: hard drive "Steve Miller" <misterblues39@hotmail.com> wrote in news:eqT6Gf3CJHA.528@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl: > Hello NG! > > I haven't found an other more specific NG on the question I want to > ask. That's why I'm going to ask my question here. > > Can I restore an image of my pc with Microsoft Virtual PC so I'll find > everything as I left it? > > I know it's said to function but I hardly can think it's true. I have > reinstalled Window several times after hard drive failures or on new > computers as well. > > I made backups of my files and I'm also familiar with restoring these > files. Only thing are program settings I had to restore manually, > which was getting tiring today ( due to the number of programs > installed ). > > Steve > > There's also a free program called Drive-Image XML. There's a video on YouTube on how to use it: Personally I use R-DriveImage, but it isn't free. It is an excellent idea to make an image as soon as a new setup has all your main programs on it and is running well. Then if you have to reinstall most of the spade work is done. I recommend keeping at least 2 copies of the image (or making 2 images at different times) and making sure they both work. I once got caught when my only copy somehow got corrupted. It's also a good idea to keep your My Documents on a different partition, then you don't need to image this folder. Just back it up in the usual way.
Guest AJR Posted September 1, 2008 Posted September 1, 2008 Re: Micrsoft Virtual PC backup image of my C: hard drive Last experience with Virtual PC - USB ports were not active - therefore doubt value of use as backup. "Rob" <invalid@invalid.net> wrote in message news:Xns9B0BF0A312AA9invalidinvalidnet@193.202.122.107... > "Steve Miller" <misterblues39@hotmail.com> wrote in > news:eqT6Gf3CJHA.528@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl: > >> Hello NG! >> >> I haven't found an other more specific NG on the question I want to >> ask. That's why I'm going to ask my question here. >> >> Can I restore an image of my pc with Microsoft Virtual PC so I'll find >> everything as I left it? >> >> I know it's said to function but I hardly can think it's true. I have >> reinstalled Window several times after hard drive failures or on new >> computers as well. >> >> I made backups of my files and I'm also familiar with restoring these >> files. Only thing are program settings I had to restore manually, >> which was getting tiring today ( due to the number of programs >> installed ). >> >> Steve >> >> > > There's also a free program called Drive-Image XML. There's a video on > YouTube on how to use it: > > > > Personally I use R-DriveImage, but it isn't free. > > It is an excellent idea to make an image as soon as a new setup has all > your main programs on it and is running well. Then if you have to > reinstall most of the spade work is done. > > I recommend keeping at least 2 copies of the image (or making 2 images > at different times) and making sure they both work. I once got caught > when my only copy somehow got corrupted. > > It's also a good idea to keep your My Documents on a different > partition, then you don't need to image this folder. Just back it up in > the usual way.
Guest Michael Jennings Posted September 1, 2008 Posted September 1, 2008 Re: Micrsoft Virtual PC backup image of my C: hard drive If you click on the wiki pages's History tab, you'll see that there have only been a couple of contributors - you could ask the original contributor, Ham_Pastrami, how he figures virtual machines are the same as disk imaging programs, and where to go to get instructions on how to use them that way: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ham_Pastrami Or you could just remove VMware, VirtualBox & MS Virtual PC from the Hard disk list of disk imaging software, referring to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/disk_image vs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_machine on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_disk_imaging_software to justify your changes. I have found that correcting ignorant editors of wikipedia isn't worth the trouble, so I'm not going to bother. "Steve Miller" <misterblues39@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:O%230nyq4CJHA.5196@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > Thank you both. > > It's here. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_disk_imaging_software#Hard_disks > > Listed under hard disks. > > How do I have to visualize how his works. > > Steve >
Guest John Barnett MVP Posted September 1, 2008 Posted September 1, 2008 Re: Micrsoft Virtual PC backup image of my C: hard drive That's the problem with Virtual PC it doesn't have USB support. I much prefer VMware Workstation which does have USB support. Unfortunately VMware is not free. -- -- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert Windows Desktop Experience Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org Web: http://www.silversurferguide.org The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this mail/post.. "AJR" <ajrjdr@comcast.net> wrote in message news:OScoTZ9CJHA.1224@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Last experience with Virtual PC - USB ports were not active - therefore > doubt value of use as backup. > > > "Rob" <invalid@invalid.net> wrote in message > news:Xns9B0BF0A312AA9invalidinvalidnet@193.202.122.107... >> "Steve Miller" <misterblues39@hotmail.com> wrote in >> news:eqT6Gf3CJHA.528@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl: >> >>> Hello NG! >>> >>> I haven't found an other more specific NG on the question I want to >>> ask. That's why I'm going to ask my question here. >>> >>> Can I restore an image of my pc with Microsoft Virtual PC so I'll find >>> everything as I left it? >>> >>> I know it's said to function but I hardly can think it's true. I have >>> reinstalled Window several times after hard drive failures or on new >>> computers as well. >>> >>> I made backups of my files and I'm also familiar with restoring these >>> files. Only thing are program settings I had to restore manually, >>> which was getting tiring today ( due to the number of programs >>> installed ). >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> >> >> There's also a free program called Drive-Image XML. There's a video on >> YouTube on how to use it: >> >> >> >> Personally I use R-DriveImage, but it isn't free. >> >> It is an excellent idea to make an image as soon as a new setup has all >> your main programs on it and is running well. Then if you have to >> reinstall most of the spade work is done. >> >> I recommend keeping at least 2 copies of the image (or making 2 images >> at different times) and making sure they both work. I once got caught >> when my only copy somehow got corrupted. >> >> It's also a good idea to keep your My Documents on a different >> partition, then you don't need to image this folder. Just back it up in >> the usual way. > >
Guest Alec S. Posted September 1, 2008 Posted September 1, 2008 Re: Micrsoft Virtual PC backup image of my C: hard drive Steve Miller wrote (in news:eqT6Gf3CJHA.528@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl): > Can I restore an image of my pc with Microsoft Virtual PC so I'll find > everything as I left it? > > I know it's said to function but I hardly can think it's true. I have > reinstalled Window several times after hard drive failures or on new > computers as well. > > I made backups of my files and I'm also familiar with restoring these files. > Only thing are program settings I had to restore manually, which was getting > tiring today (due to the number of programs installed). Your intentions are not clear. Which system are your referring to, the host or client PC? The host is the one that’s running on your hard-drive and has the VPC app running, the client is the one running INSIDE VPC. Which one do you want restored? Which one have you reinstalled several times? What you may be asking about is the revert option. With virtual machines, it is possible to set the VM’s disk drive to not store changes. That is, it will undo any changes that have been made to the client OS’s drive when you shut it down, so that when you run it again, it is exactly as it was last time. -- Alec S. news/alec->synetech/cjb/net
Guest Steve Miller Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 Re: Micrsoft Virtual PC backup image of my C: hard drive Thank you all. I just wanted to make a backup of my computer so I don't have to be doing manuell restorings :) of my settings. About it I have run in several problems. One was I have not enough space left on the other external hdd since there are backup files yet. The other one was the computer froze on trying IRestorer which was no good. But as I said I haven't had suficient space left anyway. Bad was I couldn't see if the program was still doing something as the computer stopped responding. I stopped the whole process with the help of the reset button. The other thing was I could only restore the files also to the same program, which was unfortunate in case I would get an other operating program. When I would have some more gigs left I would go for an image backup of my hdd as well, that just dosn't work right now. Steve "Alec S." <@> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:Oo1xY6GDJHA.3808@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Steve Miller wrote (in news:eqT6Gf3CJHA.528@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl): > >> Can I restore an image of my pc with Microsoft Virtual PC so I'll find >> everything as I left it? >> >> I know it's said to function but I hardly can think it's true. I have >> reinstalled Window several times after hard drive failures or on new >> computers as well. >> >> I made backups of my files and I'm also familiar with restoring these files. >> Only thing are program settings I had to restore manually, which was getting >> tiring today (due to the number of programs installed). > > Your intentions are not clear. Which system are your referring to, the host or > client PC? The host is the one that's running on your hard-drive and has the VPC > app running, the client is the one running INSIDE VPC. Which one do you want > restored? Which one have you reinstalled several times? > > What you may be asking about is the revert option. With virtual machines, it is > possible to set the VM's disk drive to not store changes. That is, it will undo > any changes that have been made to the client OS's drive when you shut it down, > so that when you run it again, it is exactly as it was last time. > > -- > Alec S. > news/alec->synetech/cjb/net > >
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