Guest Dot65 Posted August 31, 2008 Posted August 31, 2008 had to re-install W982ND ED and the follwing probs reported PCI Communications Device,USB, Multimedia Device, Ethernet Controller all have Code 28 (0xic) indicated. Old desktop PC, old program, need help! Thanks
Guest philo Posted August 31, 2008 Posted August 31, 2008 Re: missing drivers "Dot65" <Dot65@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:A94B0173-7838-4BBA-99FF-EA0D9E999B32@microsoft.com... > had to re-install W982ND ED and the follwing probs reported > PCI Communications Device,USB, Multimedia Device, Ethernet Controller all > have Code 28 (0xic) indicated. Old desktop PC, old program, need help! Thanks You need to identify the devices then get the drivers from the mfg or a place like http://www.driverguide.com There are some utilites out there that may help you identify the devices or else just visually examine the cards for product numbers etc
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted September 1, 2008 Posted September 1, 2008 Re: missing drivers Get Everest Home Edition and it should accurately identify hardware for you, provided it isn't *too* new. http://majorgeeks.com/download4181.html PCI Communications device is a modem. Multimedia Device is a sound card. USB, well, I'm not sure precisely which device that would be referring to -- the chipset or a connected device. Ethernet controller is a LAN card. Once you identify them by make, model#, chipset or whatever, then you can check the manufacturers' sites. Problem is, those companies are dropping support to the point that they don't even provide the drivers, or have even sabotaged previous installation files to remove or otherwise block 9x support. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "Dot65" <Dot65@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:A94B0173-7838-4BBA-99FF-EA0D9E999B32@microsoft.com... > had to re-install W982ND ED and the follwing probs reported > PCI Communications Device,USB, Multimedia Device, Ethernet Controller all > have Code 28 (0xic) indicated. Old desktop PC, old program, need help! > Thanks
Guest Dan Posted September 4, 2008 Posted September 4, 2008 Re: missing drivers I atill wonder about the end of 2008 when Mozilla Firefox 2.x will drop support for Windows 98. I guess that mainly leaves Opera as a currently supported browser and any others people may mention. It makes me wonder if end of Mozilla Firefox support will sound another nail in the coffin for Windows 98 but not for me at least not right away because I guess I will have to use Opera or another browser -- sadly if any others support Windows 98 Second Edition -- I guess with the proper router and external security then it will be fine. BTW, the most I have run into when running Windows 98 Second Edition with Internet Explorer on the Web is just Denial of Service errors and who cares about that at least it doesn't bother me and actually makes me smile at such feeble attempts to break a fully updated Windows 98 Second Edition. It is so much easier for XP to be broken due to misconfiguration or broken updates or other problems. If you look at secunia.com then you will notice that Internet Explorer and software such as Windows Media Player are the main weaknesses of Windows 98 Second Edition and the main attack vectors as well as having older non-supported and non-updated software on Windows 98 Second Edition. It is still annoying that a user must remove the older Java version after or before they install the new version so that the user is not subject to their vulnerabilities. BTW, check out us-cert.gov if you want and see that there already is a warning about using Google's new web browser or just see below from a copy and copy --- {smile} Google Chrome Download Vulnerability added September 3, 2008 at 01:52 pm US-CERT is aware of a vulnerability that affects the Google Chrome web browser. This vulnerability is due to a default configuration that allows files to be downloaded without prompting the user. In addition, downloaded files can be opened with a single click, which could allow a user to inadvertently open a malicious file. US-CERT encourages users to enable the "Ask where to save each file before downloading" option within the "Minor Tweaks" tab in the browser preferences. Although this does not fix the underlying vulnerability, selecting this option will warn the user before files are downloaded. Users should still exercise caution when visiting and downloading items from untrusted websites. US-CERT will provide additional information as it becomes available. VMware Releases Security Announcement added September 2, 2008 at 03:00 pm VMware has released a security announcement to address multiple vulnerabilities in VMware Workstation, VMware Player, VMware ACE, VMware Server, and VMware ESX. These vulnerabilities may allow an attacker to execute arbitrary code, cause a denial-of-service condition, access the system with elevated privileges, or obtain sensitive information. US-CERT encourages users and administrators to review the VMware security announcement and apply any necessary updates. "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: > Get Everest Home Edition and it should accurately identify hardware for you, > provided it isn't *too* new. > http://majorgeeks.com/download4181.html > > PCI Communications device is a modem. > Multimedia Device is a sound card. > USB, well, I'm not sure precisely which device that would be referring to -- > the chipset or a connected device. > Ethernet controller is a LAN card. > > Once you identify them by make, model#, chipset or whatever, then you can > check the manufacturers' sites. Problem is, those companies are dropping > support to the point that they don't even provide the drivers, or have even > sabotaged previous installation files to remove or otherwise block 9x > support. > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://grystmill.com > > "Dot65" <Dot65@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:A94B0173-7838-4BBA-99FF-EA0D9E999B32@microsoft.com... > > had to re-install W982ND ED and the follwing probs reported > > PCI Communications Device,USB, Multimedia Device, Ethernet Controller all > > have Code 28 (0xic) indicated. Old desktop PC, old program, need help! > > Thanks > > >
Guest DaffyD® Posted September 5, 2008 Posted September 5, 2008 Re: missing drivers Gary, What do you think of Belarc Advisor? It's also a free utility which identifies all hard/software on the computer. I've used it for years. It identifies which MS HotFixes and updates have become corrupted and need to be reinstalled, and also gives detailed profile of the whole system. -- { : [|]=( DaffyD® If I knew where I was I'd be there now. "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:%23QIG9a9CJHA.3348@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Get Everest Home Edition and it should accurately identify hardware for you, > provided it isn't *too* new. > http://majorgeeks.com/download4181.html > > PCI Communications device is a modem. > Multimedia Device is a sound card. > USB, well, I'm not sure precisely which device that would be referring to -- > the chipset or a connected device. > Ethernet controller is a LAN card. > > Once you identify them by make, model#, chipset or whatever, then you can > check the manufacturers' sites. Problem is, those companies are dropping > support to the point that they don't even provide the drivers, or have even > sabotaged previous installation files to remove or otherwise block 9x > support. > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://grystmill.com > > "Dot65" <Dot65@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:A94B0173-7838-4BBA-99FF-EA0D9E999B32@microsoft.com... > > had to re-install W982ND ED and the follwing probs reported > > PCI Communications Device,USB, Multimedia Device, Ethernet Controller all > > have Code 28 (0xic) indicated. Old desktop PC, old program, need help! > > Thanks > >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted September 5, 2008 Posted September 5, 2008 Re: missing drivers I use Everest to identify hardware. I recall, vaguely, that Belarc isn't as reliable. But I can tell you for a fact, that Belarc won't tell you if an update is properly installed, it will only reflect what Windows thinks is installed. The whole idea of this exercise is to read what's there, not what Windows says is there. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message news:uX41%23ZvDJHA.3904@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Gary, > > What do you think of Belarc Advisor? It's also a free utility which > identifies all hard/software on the computer. I've used it for years. It > identifies which MS HotFixes and updates have become corrupted and need to > be reinstalled, and also gives detailed profile of the whole system. > -- > { : [|]=( DaffyD® > > If I knew where I was I'd be there now. > > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > news:%23QIG9a9CJHA.3348@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> Get Everest Home Edition and it should accurately identify hardware for > you, >> provided it isn't *too* new. >> http://majorgeeks.com/download4181.html >> >> PCI Communications device is a modem. >> Multimedia Device is a sound card. >> USB, well, I'm not sure precisely which device that would be referring > to -- >> the chipset or a connected device. >> Ethernet controller is a LAN card. >> >> Once you identify them by make, model#, chipset or whatever, then you can >> check the manufacturers' sites. Problem is, those companies are dropping >> support to the point that they don't even provide the drivers, or have > even >> sabotaged previous installation files to remove or otherwise block 9x >> support. >> >> -- >> Gary S. Terhune >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> http://grystmill.com >> >> "Dot65" <Dot65@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:A94B0173-7838-4BBA-99FF-EA0D9E999B32@microsoft.com... >> > had to re-install W982ND ED and the follwing probs reported >> > PCI Communications Device,USB, Multimedia Device, Ethernet Controller > all >> > have Code 28 (0xic) indicated. Old desktop PC, old program, need help! >> > Thanks >> >> > >
Guest Bill in Co. Posted September 5, 2008 Posted September 5, 2008 Re: missing drivers They're quite different. Belarc basically gives you a one or two page fairly detailed summary. Everest (or AIDA32) does more things, in different and various categories. So how can you really compare them? But both are useful. I think they are complementary. Gary S. Terhune wrote: > I use Everest to identify hardware. I recall, vaguely, that Belarc isn't > as > reliable. > > But I can tell you for a fact, that Belarc won't tell you if an update is > properly installed, it will only reflect what Windows thinks is installed. > The whole idea of this exercise is to read what's there, not what Windows > says is there. > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://grystmill.com > > "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message > news:uX41%23ZvDJHA.3904@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> Gary, >> >> What do you think of Belarc Advisor? It's also a free utility which >> identifies all hard/software on the computer. I've used it for years. It >> identifies which MS HotFixes and updates have become corrupted and need >> to >> be reinstalled, and also gives detailed profile of the whole system. >> -- >> { : [|]=( DaffyD® >> >> If I knew where I was I'd be there now. >> >> >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >> news:%23QIG9a9CJHA.3348@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> Get Everest Home Edition and it should accurately identify hardware for >>> you, >>> provided it isn't *too* new. >>> http://majorgeeks.com/download4181.html >>> >>> PCI Communications device is a modem. >>> Multimedia Device is a sound card. >>> USB, well, I'm not sure precisely which device that would be referring >>> to -- >>> the chipset or a connected device. >>> Ethernet controller is a LAN card. >>> >>> Once you identify them by make, model#, chipset or whatever, then you >>> can >>> check the manufacturers' sites. Problem is, those companies are dropping >>> support to the point that they don't even provide the drivers, or have >>> even >>> sabotaged previous installation files to remove or otherwise block 9x >>> support. >>> >>> -- >>> Gary S. Terhune >>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>> http://grystmill.com >>> >>> "Dot65" <Dot65@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>> news:A94B0173-7838-4BBA-99FF-EA0D9E999B32@microsoft.com... >>>> had to re-install W982ND ED and the follwing probs reported >>>> PCI Communications Device,USB, Multimedia Device, Ethernet Controller >>>> all >>>> have Code 28 (0xic) indicated. Old desktop PC, old program, need help! >>>> Thanks
Guest Dan Posted September 5, 2008 Posted September 5, 2008 Re: missing drivers I agree with Bill and now use both tools but Gary makes good points as well that are worth considering. "Bill in Co." wrote: > They're quite different. Belarc basically gives you a one or two page > fairly detailed summary. Everest (or AIDA32) does more things, in > different and various categories. So how can you really compare them? > But both are useful. I think they are complementary. > > Gary S. Terhune wrote: > > I use Everest to identify hardware. I recall, vaguely, that Belarc isn't > > as > > reliable. > > > > But I can tell you for a fact, that Belarc won't tell you if an update is > > properly installed, it will only reflect what Windows thinks is installed. > > The whole idea of this exercise is to read what's there, not what Windows > > says is there. > > > > -- > > Gary S. Terhune > > MS-MVP Shell/User > > http://grystmill.com > > > > "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message > > news:uX41%23ZvDJHA.3904@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > >> Gary, > >> > >> What do you think of Belarc Advisor? It's also a free utility which > >> identifies all hard/software on the computer. I've used it for years. It > >> identifies which MS HotFixes and updates have become corrupted and need > >> to > >> be reinstalled, and also gives detailed profile of the whole system. > >> -- > >> { : [|]=( DaffyD® > >> > >> If I knew where I was I'd be there now. > >> > >> > >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > >> news:%23QIG9a9CJHA.3348@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > >>> Get Everest Home Edition and it should accurately identify hardware for > >>> you, > >>> provided it isn't *too* new. > >>> http://majorgeeks.com/download4181.html > >>> > >>> PCI Communications device is a modem. > >>> Multimedia Device is a sound card. > >>> USB, well, I'm not sure precisely which device that would be referring > >>> to -- > >>> the chipset or a connected device. > >>> Ethernet controller is a LAN card. > >>> > >>> Once you identify them by make, model#, chipset or whatever, then you > >>> can > >>> check the manufacturers' sites. Problem is, those companies are dropping > >>> support to the point that they don't even provide the drivers, or have > >>> even > >>> sabotaged previous installation files to remove or otherwise block 9x > >>> support. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Gary S. Terhune > >>> MS-MVP Shell/User > >>> http://grystmill.com > >>> > >>> "Dot65" <Dot65@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >>> news:A94B0173-7838-4BBA-99FF-EA0D9E999B32@microsoft.com... > >>>> had to re-install W982ND ED and the follwing probs reported > >>>> PCI Communications Device,USB, Multimedia Device, Ethernet Controller > >>>> all > >>>> have Code 28 (0xic) indicated. Old desktop PC, old program, need help! > >>>> Thanks > > >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted September 5, 2008 Posted September 5, 2008 Re: missing drivers Is there anything in my previous that says otherwise? I thought that's what I pretty much said. But please explain what is useful about a Belarc report that I can't gather myself in a short period of time? Tell me that Belarc doesn't take the information it gathers from Windows at face value, rather than checking to make sure that what software and patches Windows *says* is installed actually *is* installed, as opposed to being a crippled or broken pile of detritus, perhaps destroyed by some other application. Tell me that it doesn't simply read ENUM and report that at face value, without actually polling the hardware to see what *it* says it is, rather than simply what drivers Windows has installed for the hardware, right or wrong. Belarc Advisor is no more useful than a report generated by MSINFO32. And both are flawed. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:ueZyzywDJHA.528@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > They're quite different. Belarc basically gives you a one or two page > fairly detailed summary. Everest (or AIDA32) does more things, in > different and various categories. So how can you really compare them? > But both are useful. I think they are complementary. > > Gary S. Terhune wrote: >> I use Everest to identify hardware. I recall, vaguely, that Belarc isn't >> as >> reliable. >> >> But I can tell you for a fact, that Belarc won't tell you if an update >> is >> properly installed, it will only reflect what Windows thinks is >> installed. >> The whole idea of this exercise is to read what's there, not what Windows >> says is there. >> >> -- >> Gary S. Terhune >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> http://grystmill.com >> >> "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message >> news:uX41%23ZvDJHA.3904@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> Gary, >>> >>> What do you think of Belarc Advisor? It's also a free utility which >>> identifies all hard/software on the computer. I've used it for years. >>> It >>> identifies which MS HotFixes and updates have become corrupted and need >>> to >>> be reinstalled, and also gives detailed profile of the whole system. >>> -- >>> { : [|]=( DaffyD® >>> >>> If I knew where I was I'd be there now. >>> >>> >>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >>> news:%23QIG9a9CJHA.3348@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>> Get Everest Home Edition and it should accurately identify hardware for >>>> you, >>>> provided it isn't *too* new. >>>> http://majorgeeks.com/download4181.html >>>> >>>> PCI Communications device is a modem. >>>> Multimedia Device is a sound card. >>>> USB, well, I'm not sure precisely which device that would be referring >>>> to -- >>>> the chipset or a connected device. >>>> Ethernet controller is a LAN card. >>>> >>>> Once you identify them by make, model#, chipset or whatever, then you >>>> can >>>> check the manufacturers' sites. Problem is, those companies are >>>> dropping >>>> support to the point that they don't even provide the drivers, or have >>>> even >>>> sabotaged previous installation files to remove or otherwise block 9x >>>> support. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Gary S. Terhune >>>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>>> http://grystmill.com >>>> >>>> "Dot65" <Dot65@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>> news:A94B0173-7838-4BBA-99FF-EA0D9E999B32@microsoft.com... >>>>> had to re-install W982ND ED and the follwing probs reported >>>>> PCI Communications Device,USB, Multimedia Device, Ethernet Controller >>>>> all >>>>> have Code 28 (0xic) indicated. Old desktop PC, old program, need help! >>>>> Thanks > >
Guest Dan Posted September 6, 2008 Posted September 6, 2008 Re: missing drivers I don't post under an alias any longer so anyone who wants to block me can block me and I think Gary is talking about me but I don't know. I have made it clear in the past that posting under Art Wilder using his computer was a mistake and the reason I did it was I had fear of man and fear of identity theft but this is no longer the case but since I have been so unpredictable in the past I bear no ill will towards Gary and am truly sorry for the pain and suffering I caused him in the past because he took me under his wing and taught me a lot about computers. I was the student and Gary was the teacher and the world was so new and full of life to me in the 98 general newsgroup. Then, I went going through so much pain and suffering that it just is not worth mentioning because this newsgroup is about Windows and mainly Windows 98. It was wrong for me to take out my pain and suffering in the 98 general newsgroup and I should have just kept a journal which I keep now and write in it when I want to and this helps me a lot as well as my thyroid medicine and counseling so I hopefully someday I can mend my ways, lies, sin and deceit of the past, which I know none but the Higher Power or Force if you will can cleanse me of fully so I just have faith and keep on trucking along now day by day. Dan W. "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: > Wouldn't know. Don't actually read his stuff when I can avoid it. He's near > the top of my Blocked Senders list. Sometimes he just can't stand it and > takes on an alias for the sole purpose of getting me to read him, which I am > sometimes caught by, but usually I recognize who it is right away and after > pointing out how and where he is wrong (usually several ways and > everywhere), block that sender, too. > > And he really, REALLY wants me to listen to his BS. I understand the desire > to impress one's betters, but why me, someone who has made it clear that > there is nothing the man can say that I have any desire to read. He wants > someone to argue with, mostly. Doesn't care what the argument is about so > long as he can argue. > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://grystmill.com > > " > Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > news:%23nSuf21DJHA.340@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > Is there anything in my previous that says otherwise? I thought that's > > what I pretty much said. But please explain what is useful about a Belarc > > report that I can't gather myself in a short period of time? Tell me that > > Belarc doesn't take the information it gathers from Windows at face value, > > rather than checking to make sure that what software and patches Windows > > *says* is installed actually *is* installed, as opposed to being a > > crippled or broken pile of detritus, perhaps destroyed by some other > > application. Tell me that it doesn't simply read ENUM and report that at > > face value, without actually polling the hardware to see what *it* says it > > is, rather than simply what drivers Windows has installed for the > > hardware, right or wrong. > > > > Belarc Advisor is no more useful than a report generated by MSINFO32. And > > both are flawed. > > > > -- > > Gary S. Terhune > > MS-MVP Shell/User > > http://grystmill.com > > > > "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message > > news:ueZyzywDJHA.528@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > >> They're quite different. Belarc basically gives you a one or two page > >> fairly detailed summary. Everest (or AIDA32) does more things, in > >> different and various categories. So how can you really compare them? > >> But both are useful. I think they are complementary. > >> > >> Gary S. Terhune wrote: > >>> I use Everest to identify hardware. I recall, vaguely, that Belarc isn't > >>> as > >>> reliable. > >>> > >>> But I can tell you for a fact, that Belarc won't tell you if an update > >>> is > >>> properly installed, it will only reflect what Windows thinks is > >>> installed. > >>> The whole idea of this exercise is to read what's there, not what > >>> Windows > >>> says is there. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Gary S. Terhune > >>> MS-MVP Shell/User > >>> http://grystmill.com > >>> > >>> "DaffyD" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message > >>> news:uX41%23ZvDJHA.3904@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > >>>> Gary, > >>>> > >>>> What do you think of Belarc Advisor? It's also a free utility which > >>>> identifies all hard/software on the computer. I've used it for years. > >>>> It > >>>> identifies which MS HotFixes and updates have become corrupted and need > >>>> to > >>>> be reinstalled, and also gives detailed profile of the whole system. > >>>> -- > >>>> { : [|]=( DaffyD > >>>> > >>>> If I knew where I was I'd be there now. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > >>>> news:%23QIG9a9CJHA.3348@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > >>>>> Get Everest Home Edition and it should accurately identify hardware > >>>>> for you, > >>>>> provided it isn't *too* new. > >>>>> http://majorgeeks.com/download4181.html > >>>>> > >>>>> PCI Communications device is a modem. > >>>>> Multimedia Device is a sound card. > >>>>> USB, well, I'm not sure precisely which device that would be referring > >>>>> to -- > >>>>> the chipset or a connected device. > >>>>> Ethernet controller is a LAN card. > >>>>> > >>>>> Once you identify them by make, model#, chipset or whatever, then you > >>>>> can > >>>>> check the manufacturers' sites. Problem is, those companies are > >>>>> dropping > >>>>> support to the point that they don't even provide the drivers, or have > >>>>> even > >>>>> sabotaged previous installation files to remove or otherwise block 9x > >>>>> support. > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Gary S. Terhune > >>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User > >>>>> http://grystmill.com > >>>>> > >>>>> "Dot65" <Dot65@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >>>>> news:A94B0173-7838-4BBA-99FF-EA0D9E999B32@microsoft.com... > >>>>>> had to re-install W982ND ED and the follwing probs reported > >>>>>> PCI Communications Device,USB, Multimedia Device, Ethernet Controller > >>>>>> all > >>>>>> have Code 28 (0xic) indicated. Old desktop PC, old program, need > >>>>>> help! > >>>>>> Thanks > >> > >> > > > > >
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