Guest ~BD~ Posted September 5, 2008 Posted September 5, 2008 Re: Copy of Windows 98 Second Edition Glen is 100% correct, Dan Here is simple explanatory site which even 'wise Guy' should be able to comprehend:- http://www.topmarks.co.uk/judaism/commandments/tencomms.htm Note number 8! Dave -- "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:43B15FC8-4277-431C-A34D-AC0A1943DB9B@microsoft.com... > hmm, sure it wasn't 9 Glen, <grin> > > "glee" wrote: > >> #8. >> -- >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+ >> http://dts-l.net/ <snip>
Guest ~BD~ Posted September 5, 2008 Posted September 5, 2008 Re: Copy of Windows 98 Second Edition From the Back Cover "Tom Brokaw has delivered a gift to this and future generations by bringing us these inspiring personal stories of the average Joes, the GI Joes, the young men and women who served our country and shaped the foundation of post-war America. Although some became famous, most returned to their hometowns dedicated to building an even better world. We meet them in this book, whose pages give voice to the standards they set by their strength of character, informed by their experience during World War II. Tom has held up a mirror to reflect what may be their greatest legacy and pose in all of us the question--Is this generation--our generation--worthy as their beneficiaries?" --Steven Spielberg From what she has written here, I'm confident that Angel IS a worthy beneficiary! :))) Dave --
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted September 5, 2008 Posted September 5, 2008 Re: Copy of Windows 98 Second Edition Again, and your response supports my contention, it was the "Greatest Generation" that created the excesses of consumerism and capitalism, which led to the Me Generation and its off-spring of today. Your selective memory seems to not recall the excessive consumerism of the fifties, of that very same "Greatest Generation" you so revere. It was certainly NOT the "hippies" who created this society that you so roundly reject, but rather, just the opposite. It was backlash against the consumerism of the Greatest Generation that created the Hippies, who still live and are perhaps among the most moral and honest, not to mention polite, Generation of this century. FYI, the "hippies" still exist, and they're some of the most giving, most polite and most generous of our sub-cultures. I know, I was one, still am inside, and I've lived around them all my life. And some of the greatest members of your own in-between generation, the Bohemians, but also the same people who built NASA and developed computers, some of their best, were the ones who created the Hippie movement. No, what is caused the "breakdown" you're whining about is the natural response against "polite" and "respectful" hypocrites who, just like Kennedy and astronauts and their kin, were part of the "Greatest Generation". Only what they got out of it was the meanest, crassest form of Capitalism yet, and it is THAT mean, crass, unfettered and mostly Republican-led deregulated capitalism that has led to today's societal despicable mores. Their counter-parts, the "Politically Correct" pseudo-Hipppies, just as capitalistic and just as lacking in true manners, have taken things to extremes, also, and the backlash is just as much against them. But there's hope. A lot of today's children and are out there on the front lines, working to bring self-respect back to our society, and self-respect is the only path toward respect for others. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:uaRSGwwDJHA.2476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > No, it was the hippies. Sorry, I wasn't part and parcel of that > "movement", and my values echo those of my parents, brought up during the > Great Depression, not the Boomer set. I served during the Vietnam War, > while they were getting high on acid. > > Gary S. Terhune wrote: >> Ummm.... It was the Greatest Generation that created the society that you >> so >> demonize. >> >> Blame Frankenstein, not the monster. >> >> -- >> Gary S. Terhune >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> http://grystmill.com >> >> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message >> news:%23F9mKCvDJHA.2060@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> Maybe you ought to read "The Greatest Generation", and get back to me on >>> that. If you think personal values, and one's sense of personal >>> responsibility >>> and accountability, haven't changed much since then, then .... >>> >>> Angel wrote: >>>> No, it wasn't. >>>> >>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message >>>> news:%23QTnBerDJHA.3576@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>> Apparently my attempt at sarcasm was too subtle. :-) >>>>> >>>>> Angel wrote: >>>>>> Bill in Co. >>>>>> >>>>>> Correction: Note below YOUR comment. >>>>>> >>>>>> Angel >>>>>> >>>>>> "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:uxZuhZpDJHA.232@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> Note Below >>>>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:O5ksSUhDJHA.3432@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>> Angel wrote: >>>>>>>>> Buffalo, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Maybe (98 Guy) knows more about computers, I am learning more >>>>>>>>> about >>>>>>>>> them every day. He seems to know NOTHING about Scruples, Morals >>>>>>>>> and Integrity, or he just doesn't care about what the difference >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> between right and wrong. >>>>>>>>> This subject has nothing to do with computer knowledge. This >>>>>>>>> concerns >>>>>>>>> the difference between right and wrong, scruples, morality and >>>>>>>>> integrity, >>>>>>>>> nothing else. >>>>>>>>> Angel >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "scruples, morality and integrity"??? Wrong era and wrong >>>>>>>> generation for that! You old fogie, you!!!! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> All I have to say about your comment is: Do, Write and Say unto >>>>>>> others >>>>>>> AS you would want them to Do, Write and Say to you. It would be a >>>>>>> better >>>>>>> world if everyone believed and did this. Scruples, morality and >>>>>>> integrity has >>>>>>> NEVER been connected with era or generation. It has never gone out >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> style. >>>>>>> Of course, there is nothing that would change your mind if you had >>>>>>> your mind >>>>>>> set on "wrong era and wrong generation" no matter what. Anyway, you >>>>>>> do >>>>>>> not know what generation I am from, this may give you a hint: I go >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> University >>>>>>> classes. Right now, I am taking Philosophy classes. Maybe you should >>>>>>> be going to those classes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Angel >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Buffalo" <Eric@nada.com.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:mPidnVvSDKOGYyDVnZ2dnUVZ_hednZ2d@comcast.com... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Bill in Co. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Buffalo wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Angel wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Dan, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You have just asked "98 Guy" the same question I was going to >>>>>>>>>>>>> ask. >>>>>>>>>>>>> He checked ONLY 1/3rd of the downloaded Pirated Win98SE? he >>>>>>>>>>>>> he is in for a great surprise!! Of course, he is a "know it >>>>>>>>>>>>> all" and >>>>>>>>>>>>> no matter what. In his own opinion, he is never wrong no >>>>>>>>>>>>> matter >>>>>>>>>>>>> what! He is just a Troll! looking for someone to pick on. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Angel >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> And who might you just be?? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> She is Angel. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Well, Duh? :) I think he (98 Guy) knows a hell of a lot more >>>>>>>>>> about Win98 and computers than Angel. > >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted September 5, 2008 Posted September 5, 2008 Re: Copy of Windows 98 Second Edition Wanna bet? -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "~BD~" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:eI1SdByDJHA.4800@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... <SNIP> > Here is simple explanatory site which even 'wise Guy' should be able to > comprehend:- <SNIP>
Guest Buffalo Posted September 5, 2008 Posted September 5, 2008 Re: Copy of Windows 98 Second Edition Gary S. Terhune wrote: > Again, and your response supports my contention, it was the "Greatest > Generation" that created the excesses of consumerism and capitalism, > which led to the Me Generation and its off-spring of today. Your > selective memory seems to not recall the excessive consumerism of the > fifties, of that very same "Greatest Generation" you so revere. It > was certainly NOT the "hippies" who created this society that you so > roundly reject, but rather, just the opposite. It was backlash > against the consumerism of the Greatest Generation that created the > Hippies, who still live and are perhaps among the most moral and > honest, not to mention polite, Generation of this century. > > FYI, the "hippies" still exist, and they're some of the most giving, > most polite and most generous of our sub-cultures. I know, I was one, > still am inside, and I've lived around them all my life. And some of > the greatest members of your own in-between generation, the > Bohemians, but also the same people who built NASA and developed > computers, some of their best, were the ones who created the Hippie > movement. > > No, what is caused the "breakdown" you're whining about is the natural > response against "polite" and "respectful" hypocrites who, just like > Kennedy and astronauts and their kin, were part of the "Greatest > Generation". Only what they got out of it was the meanest, crassest > form of Capitalism yet, and it is THAT mean, crass, unfettered and > mostly Republican-led deregulated capitalism that has led to today's > societal despicable mores. Their counter-parts, the "Politically > Correct" pseudo-Hipppies, just as capitalistic and just as lacking in > true manners, have taken things to extremes, also, and the backlash > is just as much against them. > > But there's hope. A lot of today's children and are out there on the > front lines, working to bring self-respect back to our society, and > self-respect is the only path toward respect for others. Wow, a Hippie!! The above is very well written and an interesting perspective about the country. Well done.
Guest ~BD~ Posted September 5, 2008 Posted September 5, 2008 Re: Copy of Windows 98 Second Edition :))) No Sir! ........ although you may have noted that he did not embark (no pun intended!) on an argument to change the rules within the International Maritime Organization (IMO) which was raised earlier in this group! Dave -- "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:Ow7f%2321DJHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Wanna bet? > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://grystmill.com > > "~BD~" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:eI1SdByDJHA.4800@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > <SNIP> >> Here is simple explanatory site which even 'wise Guy' should be able to comprehend:- > <SNIP> > >
Guest Bill in Co. Posted September 5, 2008 Posted September 5, 2008 Re: Copy of Windows 98 Second Edition Gary S. Terhune wrote: > Again, and your response supports my contention, it was the "Greatest > Generation" that created the excesses of consumerism and capitalism, which > led to the Me Generation and its off-spring of today. Your selective > memory > seems to not recall the excessive consumerism of the fifties, of that very > same "Greatest Generation" you so revere. It was certainly NOT the > "hippies" > who created this society that you so roundly reject, but rather, just the > opposite. It was backlash against the consumerism of the Greatest > Generation > that created the Hippies, who still live and are perhaps among the most > moral and honest, not to mention polite, Generation of this century. > > FYI, the "hippies" still exist, and they're some of the most giving, most > polite and most generous of our sub-cultures. I know, I was one, still am > inside, and I've lived around them all my life. And some of the greatest > members of your own in-between generation, the Bohemians, but also the > same > people who built NASA and developed computers, some of their best, were > the > ones who created the Hippie movement. > > No, what is caused the "breakdown" you're whining about is the natural > response against "polite" and "respectful" hypocrites who, just like > Kennedy > and astronauts and their kin, were part of the "Greatest Generation". Only > what they got out of it was the meanest, crassest form of Capitalism yet, > and it is THAT mean, crass, unfettered and mostly Republican-led > deregulated > capitalism that has led to today's societal despicable mores. Their > counter-parts, the "Politically Correct" pseudo-Hipppies, just as > capitalistic and just as lacking in true manners, have taken things to > extremes, also, and the backlash is just as much against them. > > But there's hope. A lot of today's children and are out there on the front > lines, working to bring self-respect back to our society, and self-respect > is the only path toward respect for others. There MAY be hope, if Obama gets elected. But even so, I wouldn't bank on it. The societal problem is just too systemic today, with so many just blaming each other for their own lack of personal responsibility and accountability (and using lawyers to "solve" every instance of any problem). Gotta keep our "priorities" straight, don't ya know? (snort). How many TWO parent homes do we have today? What about the loss of neighborhoods ("it takes a village")? Why are prisons being built faster than schools, today? And what about the days when a handshake was all that was needed, and, one's word was one bond? Alas, they are pretty much Gone With The Wind..... Distant memories off the horizon. > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://grystmill.com > > "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message > news:uaRSGwwDJHA.2476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> No, it was the hippies. Sorry, I wasn't part and parcel of that >> "movement", and my values echo those of my parents, brought up during the >> Great Depression, not the Boomer set. I served during the Vietnam War, >> while they were getting high on acid. >> >> Gary S. Terhune wrote: >>> Ummm.... It was the Greatest Generation that created the society that >>> you >>> so >>> demonize. >>> >>> Blame Frankenstein, not the monster. >>> >>> -- >>> Gary S. Terhune >>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>> http://grystmill.com >>> >>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message >>> news:%23F9mKCvDJHA.2060@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>> Maybe you ought to read "The Greatest Generation", and get back to me >>>> on >>>> that. If you think personal values, and one's sense of personal >>>> responsibility >>>> and accountability, haven't changed much since then, then .... >>>> >>>> Angel wrote: >>>>> No, it wasn't. >>>>> >>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message >>>>> news:%23QTnBerDJHA.3576@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>> Apparently my attempt at sarcasm was too subtle. :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> Angel wrote: >>>>>>> Bill in Co. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Correction: Note below YOUR comment. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Angel >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:uxZuhZpDJHA.232@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>> Note Below >>>>>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:O5ksSUhDJHA.3432@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>> Angel wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Buffalo, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Maybe (98 Guy) knows more about computers, I am learning more >>>>>>>>>> about >>>>>>>>>> them every day. He seems to know NOTHING about Scruples, Morals >>>>>>>>>> and Integrity, or he just doesn't care about what the difference >>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>> between right and wrong. >>>>>>>>>> This subject has nothing to do with computer knowledge. This >>>>>>>>>> concerns >>>>>>>>>> the difference between right and wrong, scruples, morality and >>>>>>>>>> integrity, >>>>>>>>>> nothing else. >>>>>>>>>> Angel >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "scruples, morality and integrity"??? Wrong era and wrong >>>>>>>>> generation for that! You old fogie, you!!!! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> All I have to say about your comment is: Do, Write and Say unto >>>>>>>> others >>>>>>>> AS you would want them to Do, Write and Say to you. It would be a >>>>>>>> better >>>>>>>> world if everyone believed and did this. Scruples, morality and >>>>>>>> integrity has >>>>>>>> NEVER been connected with era or generation. It has never gone out >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> style. >>>>>>>> Of course, there is nothing that would change your mind if you had >>>>>>>> your mind >>>>>>>> set on "wrong era and wrong generation" no matter what. Anyway, you >>>>>>>> do >>>>>>>> not know what generation I am from, this may give you a hint: I go >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> University >>>>>>>> classes. Right now, I am taking Philosophy classes. Maybe you >>>>>>>> should >>>>>>>> be going to those classes. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Angel >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Buffalo" <Eric@nada.com.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> news:mPidnVvSDKOGYyDVnZ2dnUVZ_hednZ2d@comcast.com... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Bill in Co. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Buffalo wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Angel wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Dan, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have just asked "98 Guy" the same question I was going to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ask. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> He checked ONLY 1/3rd of the downloaded Pirated Win98SE? he >>>>>>>>>>>>>> he is in for a great surprise!! Of course, he is a "know it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> all" and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> no matter what. In his own opinion, he is never wrong no >>>>>>>>>>>>>> matter >>>>>>>>>>>>>> what! He is just a Troll! looking for someone to pick on. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Angel >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> And who might you just be?? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> She is Angel. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Well, Duh? :) I think he (98 Guy) knows a hell of a lot more >>>>>>>>>>> about Win98 and computers than Angel.
Guest Buffalo Posted September 6, 2008 Posted September 6, 2008 Re: Copy of Windows 98 Second Edition Bill in Co. wrote: > > There MAY be hope, if Obama gets elected. But even so, I wouldn't > bank on it. > The societal problem is just too systemic today, with so many just > blaming each other for their own lack of personal responsibility and > accountability (and using lawyers to "solve" every instance of any > problem). If some city in the USA got nuked, the phone lines would be totally tied up. Why? Because of all the people calling their lawyers. :) If the Republicans and Democrats spent even 1/2 as much time doing something to improve the USA as they do fighting each other, we would be much better off. > Gotta keep our "priorities" straight, don't ya know? (snort). How > many TWO parent homes do we have today? What about the loss of > neighborhoods ("it takes a village")? Why are prisons being built > faster than schools, today? And what about the days when a > handshake was all that was needed, and, one's word was one bond? > Alas, they are pretty much Gone With The Wind..... Distant > memories off the horizon. It's called ignorance, capitalism, greed and most importantly, I am the most important thing in this world. :(
Guest Bill in Co. Posted September 6, 2008 Posted September 6, 2008 Re: Copy of Windows 98 Second Edition Buffalo wrote: > Bill in Co. wrote: >> >> There MAY be hope, if Obama gets elected. But even so, I wouldn't >> bank on it. >> The societal problem is just too systemic today, with so many just >> blaming each other for their own lack of personal responsibility and >> accountability (and using lawyers to "solve" every instance of any >> problem). > > If some city in the USA got nuked, the phone lines would be totally tied > up. > Why? Because of all the people calling their lawyers. :) > If the Republicans and Democrats spent even 1/2 as much time doing > something > to improve the USA as they do fighting each other, we would be much better > off. > > >> Gotta keep our "priorities" straight, don't ya know? (snort). How >> many TWO parent homes do we have today? What about the loss of >> neighborhoods ("it takes a village")? Why are prisons being built >> faster than schools, today? And what about the days when a >> handshake was all that was needed, and, one's word was one's bond? >> Alas, they are pretty much ... Gone With The Wind.... Distant >> memories, now gone off the horizon. > > It's called ignorance, capitalism, greed and most importantly, I am the > most > important thing in this world. :( Yup. That's just about where we are are now, and, like a few in "Tuck Everlasting", I'm kinda glad my lifetime here is limited.
Guest Dan Posted September 8, 2008 Posted September 8, 2008 Re: Copy of Windows 98 Second Edition Thanks Dave for the correction. "~BD~" wrote: > Glen is 100% correct, Dan > > Here is simple explanatory site which even 'wise Guy' should be able to comprehend:- > http://www.topmarks.co.uk/judaism/commandments/tencomms.htm > > Note number 8! > > Dave > > -- > > > > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:43B15FC8-4277-431C-A34D-AC0A1943DB9B@microsoft.com... > > hmm, sure it wasn't 9 Glen, <grin> > > > > "glee" wrote: > > > >> #8. > >> -- > >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+ > >> http://dts-l.net/ > <snip> > > >
Guest ~BD~ Posted September 8, 2008 Posted September 8, 2008 A Puzzle! A Puzzle! "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:10E9AABE-ED76-4C6E-9CC9-905450792A00@microsoft.com... > Thanks Dave for the correction. :) This was meant to be light-hearted, albeit with serious undertones (for 98 Guy anyway!) Maybe you can help me. I posted a message in the Microsoft security group earlier this morning in 'your' Source Code thread. When I checked just now (using Outlook Express) the message header had a line scored through it and in the message box it said the message is no longer available on the server. Have you ever seen this happen before? Any idea why it might happen? It is, however, still showing on Google Groups. I repeat it here:- (It was in response to FromTheRafters who said ....... ) "The transmission is textual - the protocol has no issues I am aware of. Any security risk would probably be in the extensions that allow this textual data to 'contain' malware - similar to the e-mail protocols". * * Hmmm! <stroking chin!> What about when 'pictures' or photographs are included (including screenshots) - there's a term for that which escapes me right now! In other words, not in 'plain text'. I once received a 'screenshot' as an email attachment (I'd asked for it to be sent to me). I opened the 'picture' (jpeg I think) and all seemed fine. I then opened the file with Notepad (I do crazy things like that!). Wow! Inside that file, above all the 'gobbledegook' one might expect, were *live* links to all manner of web pages ,,,,,,,, of course I went and looked! <grin> During my experimentation over the years, I've seen lots of SPAM (advertising the likes of Viagra and Jewelry) - every one of those links shown in Notepad was, I'm certain, taking me to a SPAM site! I''ve been told that is impossible ........... yet I saw it with my own eyes! So there! Any thoughts? Dave --
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted September 8, 2008 Posted September 8, 2008 Re: A Puzzle! Re: A Puzzle! All kinds of stuff gets immediately rejected or filtered out soon after it gets posts to the MS server. There is generally no rhyme no reason for it. Fact is, nobody is in charge of the MS news servers. What there *is* is an ad hoc group of people with differing and sometimes ridiculous ideas about how to block SPAM and "objectionable" material, whatever they decide that is. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "~BD~" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:uXgWA0ZEJHA.3476@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:10E9AABE-ED76-4C6E-9CC9-905450792A00@microsoft.com... >> Thanks Dave for the correction. > > :) This was meant to be light-hearted, albeit with serious undertones > (for 98 Guy anyway!) > > Maybe you can help me. I posted a message in the Microsoft security group > earlier this morning in 'your' Source Code thread. When I checked just now > (using Outlook Express) the message header had a line scored through it > and in the message box it said the message is no longer available on the > server. > > Have you ever seen this happen before? Any idea why it might happen? > > It is, however, still showing on Google Groups. I repeat it here:- > > (It was in response to FromTheRafters who said ....... ) > > "The transmission is textual - the protocol has no issues I am > aware of. Any security risk would probably be in the extensions > that allow this textual data to 'contain' malware - similar to the > e-mail protocols". > > * > > * > > > Hmmm! <stroking chin!> > > What about when 'pictures' or photographs are included (including > screenshots) - there's a term for > that which escapes me right now! In other words, not in 'plain text'. > > > I once received a 'screenshot' as an email attachment (I'd asked for it to > be sent to me). I opened > the 'picture' (jpeg I think) and all seemed fine. > > > I then opened the file with Notepad (I do crazy things like that!). Wow! > Inside that file, above > all the 'gobbledegook' one might expect, were *live* links to all manner > of web pages ,,,,,,,, of > course I went and looked! <grin> > > > During my experimentation over the years, I've seen lots of SPAM > (advertising the likes of Viagra > and Jewelry) - every one of those links shown in Notepad was, I'm certain, > taking me to a SPAM site! > > > I''ve been told that is impossible ........... yet I saw it with my own > eyes! So there! > > > Any thoughts? > > > Dave > > > -- > >
Guest ~BD~ Posted September 8, 2008 Posted September 8, 2008 Re: A Puzzle! Re: A Puzzle! > "~BD~" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message > news:uXgWA0ZEJHA.3476@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> >> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:10E9AABE-ED76-4C6E-9CC9-905450792A00@microsoft.com... >>> Thanks Dave for the correction. >> >> :) This was meant to be light-hearted, albeit with serious undertones (for 98 Guy anyway!) >> >> Maybe you can help me. I posted a message in the Microsoft security group earlier this morning in >> 'your' Source Code thread. When I checked just now (using Outlook Express) the message header had >> a line scored through it and in the message box it said the message is no longer available on the >> server. >> >> Have you ever seen this happen before? Any idea why it might happen? >> >> It is, however, still showing on Google Groups. I repeat it here:- >> >> (It was in response to FromTheRafters who said ....... ) >> >> "The transmission is textual - the protocol has no issues I am >> aware of. Any security risk would probably be in the extensions >> that allow this textual data to 'contain' malware - similar to the >> e-mail protocols". >> >> * >> >> * >> >> >> Hmmm! <stroking chin!> >> >> What about when 'pictures' or photographs are included (including screenshots) - there's a term >> for >> that which escapes me right now! In other words, not in 'plain text'. >> >> >> I once received a 'screenshot' as an email attachment (I'd asked for it to be sent to me). I >> opened >> the 'picture' (jpeg I think) and all seemed fine. >> >> >> I then opened the file with Notepad (I do crazy things like that!). Wow! Inside that file, above >> all the 'gobbledegook' one might expect, were *live* links to all manner of web pages ,,,,,,,, of >> course I went and looked! <grin> >> >> >> During my experimentation over the years, I've seen lots of SPAM (advertising the likes of Viagra >> and Jewelry) - every one of those links shown in Notepad was, I'm certain, taking me to a SPAM >> site! >> >> >> I''ve been told that is impossible ........... yet I saw it with my own eyes! So there! >> >> >> Any thoughts? >> >> >> Dave >> >> >> -- "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:%23IGr4ocEJHA.1272@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > All kinds of stuff gets immediately rejected or filtered out soon after it gets posts to the MS > server. There is generally no rhyme no reason for it. Fact is, nobody is in charge of the MS news > servers. What there *is* is an ad hoc group of people with differing and sometimes ridiculous > ideas about how to block SPAM and "objectionable" material, whatever they decide that is. > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://grystmill.com Gary - thanks for taking the time and trouble to respond. I've come to respect your expertise and attitude. Thanks. It took me a fair while to appreciate that the MS news servers were divorced from Microsoft itself and that there is no moderation here, in general terms anyway. I'm quite certain that a very high percentage of folk visiting the groups do so out of desperation - I know I did! I must have been using Outlook Express for about 8 years before I became aware that it could be used for participating in newsgroups in addition to use for email! Doh! I have, though, always assumed that Microsoft funds the cost of running the servers. Can you confirm that that is so? I did once question why there are two active servers - news.microsoft.com AND msnews.microsoft.com. A historical 'quirk' I believe I was told. I'm uncertain if you read right through my post. Have you any understanding of *how* live links to web sites could be 'hidden' within a jpeg file? I'm happy for you to email me if you would prefer so to do. Just let me know here and I'll give you my address. TIA In the meantime, I'll try posting my message to FTR again and see what happens this time! Dave Dave --
Guest Dan Posted September 8, 2008 Posted September 8, 2008 Re: A Puzzle! Re: A Puzzle! I would imagine their are two newsgroup servers so if one goes down for maintenance or becomes disrupted for any reason then posters can still post at Microsoft newsgroups because there is another server but this is just a guess on my part. "~BD~" wrote: > > > "~BD~" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message > > news:uXgWA0ZEJHA.3476@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > >> > >> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> news:10E9AABE-ED76-4C6E-9CC9-905450792A00@microsoft.com... > >>> Thanks Dave for the correction. > >> > >> :) This was meant to be light-hearted, albeit with serious undertones (for 98 Guy anyway!) > >> > >> Maybe you can help me. I posted a message in the Microsoft security group earlier this morning in > >> 'your' Source Code thread. When I checked just now (using Outlook Express) the message header had > >> a line scored through it and in the message box it said the message is no longer available on the > >> server. > >> > >> Have you ever seen this happen before? Any idea why it might happen? > >> > >> It is, however, still showing on Google Groups. I repeat it here:- > >> > >> (It was in response to FromTheRafters who said ....... ) > >> > >> "The transmission is textual - the protocol has no issues I am > >> aware of. Any security risk would probably be in the extensions > >> that allow this textual data to 'contain' malware - similar to the > >> e-mail protocols". > >> > >> * > >> > >> * > >> > >> > >> Hmmm! <stroking chin!> > >> > >> What about when 'pictures' or photographs are included (including screenshots) - there's a term > >> for > >> that which escapes me right now! In other words, not in 'plain text'. > >> > >> > >> I once received a 'screenshot' as an email attachment (I'd asked for it to be sent to me). I > >> opened > >> the 'picture' (jpeg I think) and all seemed fine. > >> > >> > >> I then opened the file with Notepad (I do crazy things like that!). Wow! Inside that file, above > >> all the 'gobbledegook' one might expect, were *live* links to all manner of web pages ,,,,,,,, of > >> course I went and looked! <grin> > >> > >> > >> During my experimentation over the years, I've seen lots of SPAM (advertising the likes of Viagra > >> and Jewelry) - every one of those links shown in Notepad was, I'm certain, taking me to a SPAM > >> site! > >> > >> > >> I''ve been told that is impossible ........... yet I saw it with my own eyes! So there! > >> > >> > >> Any thoughts? > >> > >> > >> Dave > >> > >> > >> -- > > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:%23IGr4ocEJHA.1272@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > All kinds of stuff gets immediately rejected or filtered out soon after it gets posts to the MS > > server. There is generally no rhyme no reason for it. Fact is, nobody is in charge of the MS news > > servers. What there *is* is an ad hoc group of people with differing and sometimes ridiculous > > ideas about how to block SPAM and "objectionable" material, whatever they decide that is. > > -- > > Gary S. Terhune > > MS-MVP Shell/User > > http://grystmill.com > > > Gary - thanks for taking the time and trouble to respond. I've come to respect your expertise and > attitude. Thanks. > > It took me a fair while to appreciate that the MS news servers were divorced from Microsoft itself > and that there is no moderation here, in general terms anyway. I'm quite certain that a very high > percentage of folk visiting the groups do so out of desperation - I know I did! I must have been > using Outlook Express for about 8 years before I became aware that it could be used for > participating in newsgroups in addition to use for email! Doh! > > I have, though, always assumed that Microsoft funds the cost of running the servers. Can you confirm > that that is so? I did once question why there are two active servers - news.microsoft.com AND > msnews.microsoft.com. A historical 'quirk' I believe I was told. > > I'm uncertain if you read right through my post. Have you any understanding of *how* live links to > web sites could be 'hidden' within a jpeg file? I'm happy for you to email me if you would prefer so > to do. Just let me know here and I'll give you my address. TIA > > In the meantime, I'll try posting my message to FTR again and see what happens this time! > > Dave > > Dave > > -- > > > > >
Guest MEB Posted September 8, 2008 Posted September 8, 2008 Re: A Puzzle! Re: A Puzzle! "~BD~" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:OIAUF$cEJHA.5732@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... | | > "~BD~" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message | > news:uXgWA0ZEJHA.3476@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... | >> | >> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message | >> news:10E9AABE-ED76-4C6E-9CC9-905450792A00@microsoft.com... | >>> Thanks Dave for the correction. | >> | >> :) This was meant to be light-hearted, albeit with serious undertones (for 98 Guy anyway!) | >> | >> Maybe you can help me. I posted a message in the Microsoft security group earlier this morning in | >> 'your' Source Code thread. When I checked just now (using Outlook Express) the message header had | >> a line scored through it and in the message box it said the message is no longer available on the | >> server. | >> | >> Have you ever seen this happen before? Any idea why it might happen? | >> | >> It is, however, still showing on Google Groups. I repeat it here:- | >> | >> (It was in response to FromTheRafters who said ....... ) | >> | >> "The transmission is textual - the protocol has no issues I am | >> aware of. Any security risk would probably be in the extensions | >> that allow this textual data to 'contain' malware - similar to the | >> e-mail protocols". | >> | >> * | >> | >> * | >> | >> | >> Hmmm! <stroking chin!> | >> | >> What about when 'pictures' or photographs are included (including screenshots) - there's a term | >> for | >> that which escapes me right now! In other words, not in 'plain text'. | >> | >> | >> I once received a 'screenshot' as an email attachment (I'd asked for it to be sent to me). I | >> opened | >> the 'picture' (jpeg I think) and all seemed fine. | >> | >> | >> I then opened the file with Notepad (I do crazy things like that!). Wow! Inside that file, above | >> all the 'gobbledegook' one might expect, were *live* links to all manner of web pages ,,,,,,,, of | >> course I went and looked! <grin> | >> | >> | >> During my experimentation over the years, I've seen lots of SPAM (advertising the likes of Viagra | >> and Jewelry) - every one of those links shown in Notepad was, I'm certain, taking me to a SPAM | >> site! | >> | >> | >> I''ve been told that is impossible ........... yet I saw it with my own eyes! So there! | >> | >> | >> Any thoughts? | >> | >> | >> Dave | >> | >> | >> -- | | | "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:%23IGr4ocEJHA.1272@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... | > All kinds of stuff gets immediately rejected or filtered out soon after it gets posts to the MS | > server. There is generally no rhyme no reason for it. Fact is, nobody is in charge of the MS news | > servers. What there *is* is an ad hoc group of people with differing and sometimes ridiculous | > ideas about how to block SPAM and "objectionable" material, whatever they decide that is. | > -- | > Gary S. Terhune | > MS-MVP Shell/User | > http://grystmill.com | | | Gary - thanks for taking the time and trouble to respond. I've come to respect your expertise and | attitude. Thanks. | | It took me a fair while to appreciate that the MS news servers were divorced from Microsoft itself | and that there is no moderation here, in general terms anyway. I'm quite certain that a very high | percentage of folk visiting the groups do so out of desperation - I know I did! I must have been | using Outlook Express for about 8 years before I became aware that it could be used for | participating in newsgroups in addition to use for email! Doh! | | I have, though, always assumed that Microsoft funds the cost of running the servers. Can you confirm | that that is so? I did once question why there are two active servers - news.microsoft.com AND | msnews.microsoft.com. A historical 'quirk' I believe I was told. | | I'm uncertain if you read right through my post. Have you any understanding of *how* live links to | web sites could be 'hidden' within a jpeg file? I'm happy for you to email me if you would prefer so | to do. Just let me know here and I'll give you my address. TIA | | In the meantime, I'll try posting my message to FTR again and see what happens this time! | | Dave | | Dave | | -- The JPEG/JGP issue was a matter of concern [and still is] several years ago with numerous sites related and discussions in the forums. One could reasonably state that the/those format(s) has(have) been used successfully to do exactly as you indicate. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=JPEG+used+to+hack&btnG=Search http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=JPEG+vulnerability&btnG=Search -- MEB a Peoples' counsel -- _________
Guest ~BD~ Posted September 8, 2008 Posted September 8, 2008 Re: A Puzzle! Re: A Puzzle! "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:eY%239CheEJHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > > "~BD~" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message > news:OIAUF$cEJHA.5732@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > | > | > "~BD~" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message > | > news:uXgWA0ZEJHA.3476@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > | >> > | >> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > | >> news:10E9AABE-ED76-4C6E-9CC9-905450792A00@microsoft.com... > | >>> Thanks Dave for the correction. > | >> > | >> :) This was meant to be light-hearted, albeit with serious undertones > (for 98 Guy anyway!) > | >> > | >> Maybe you can help me. I posted a message in the Microsoft security > group earlier this morning in > | >> 'your' Source Code thread. When I checked just now (using Outlook > Express) the message header had > | >> a line scored through it and in the message box it said the message is > no longer available on the > | >> server. > | >> > | >> Have you ever seen this happen before? Any idea why it might happen? > | >> > | >> It is, however, still showing on Google Groups. I repeat it here:- > | >> > | >> (It was in response to FromTheRafters who said ....... ) > | >> > | >> "The transmission is textual - the protocol has no issues I am > | >> aware of. Any security risk would probably be in the extensions > | >> that allow this textual data to 'contain' malware - similar to the > | >> e-mail protocols". > | >> > | >> * > | >> > | >> * > | >> > | >> > | >> Hmmm! <stroking chin!> > | >> > | >> What about when 'pictures' or photographs are included (including > screenshots) - there's a term > | >> for > | >> that which escapes me right now! In other words, not in 'plain text'. > | >> > | >> > | >> I once received a 'screenshot' as an email attachment (I'd asked for it > to be sent to me). I > | >> opened > | >> the 'picture' (jpeg I think) and all seemed fine. > | >> > | >> > | >> I then opened the file with Notepad (I do crazy things like that!). > Wow! Inside that file, above > | >> all the 'gobbledegook' one might expect, were *live* links to all > manner of web pages ,,,,,,,, of > | >> course I went and looked! <grin> > | >> > | >> > | >> During my experimentation over the years, I've seen lots of SPAM > (advertising the likes of Viagra > | >> and Jewelry) - every one of those links shown in Notepad was, I'm > certain, taking me to a SPAM > | >> site! > | >> > | >> > | >> I''ve been told that is impossible ........... yet I saw it with my own > eyes! So there! > | >> > | >> > | >> Any thoughts? > | >> > | >> > | >> Dave > | >> > | >> > | >> -- > | > | > | "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > news:%23IGr4ocEJHA.1272@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > | > All kinds of stuff gets immediately rejected or filtered out soon after > it gets posts to the MS > | > server. There is generally no rhyme no reason for it. Fact is, nobody is > in charge of the MS news > | > servers. What there *is* is an ad hoc group of people with differing and > sometimes ridiculous > | > ideas about how to block SPAM and "objectionable" material, whatever > they decide that is. > | > -- > | > Gary S. Terhune > | > MS-MVP Shell/User > | > http://grystmill.com > | > | > | Gary - thanks for taking the time and trouble to respond. I've come to > respect your expertise and > | attitude. Thanks. > | > | It took me a fair while to appreciate that the MS news servers were > divorced from Microsoft itself > | and that there is no moderation here, in general terms anyway. I'm quite > certain that a very high > | percentage of folk visiting the groups do so out of desperation - I know I > did! I must have been > | using Outlook Express for about 8 years before I became aware that it > could be used for > | participating in newsgroups in addition to use for email! Doh! > | > | I have, though, always assumed that Microsoft funds the cost of running > the servers. Can you confirm > | that that is so? I did once question why there are two active servers - > news.microsoft.com AND > | msnews.microsoft.com. A historical 'quirk' I believe I was told. > | > | I'm uncertain if you read right through my post. Have you any > understanding of *how* live links to > | web sites could be 'hidden' within a jpeg file? I'm happy for you to email > me if you would prefer so > | to do. Just let me know here and I'll give you my address. TIA > | > | In the meantime, I'll try posting my message to FTR again and see what > happens this time! > | > | Dave > | > | Dave > | > | -- > > The JPEG/JGP issue was a matter of concern [and still is] several years ago > with numerous sites related and discussions in the forums. One could > reasonably state that the/those format(s) has(have) been used successfully > to do exactly as you indicate. > > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=JPEG+used+to+hack&btnG=Search > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=JPEG+vulnerability&btnG=Search > > > -- > MEB > a Peoples' counsel > -- > _________ > > > Thank you so much for your reply MEB. I'll spend some time reviewing those Google leads you have so kindly provided. Dave PS My post to FTR has 'stuck' this time! --
Guest Tim Slattery Posted September 8, 2008 Posted September 8, 2008 Re: A Puzzle! Re: A Puzzle! "~BD~" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote: >I have, though, always assumed that Microsoft funds the cost of running the servers. Can you confirm >that that is so? I did once question why there are two active servers - news.microsoft.com AND >msnews.microsoft.com. A historical 'quirk' I believe I was told. The servers belong to Microsoft, they contract out the actual running of them. There's only one server address, both domain names resolve to the same IP address. -- Tim Slattery MS MVP(Shell/User) Slattery_T@bls.gov http://members.cox.net/slatteryt
Guest MEB Posted September 8, 2008 Posted September 8, 2008 Re: A Puzzle! JPEG-JPG inclussions, vulnerabilities Re: A Puzzle! JPEG-JPG inclussions, vulnerabilities Posted this in the wrong discussion, my bad.. I should have added: The formats defined as JPEG/JPG [among a few other formats] also allow the creator/author and other {identifying} information to be included within the formats. Web based images generally contain these types of information as well what I previously indicated could POSSIBLY be included. *Image search/indexing spiders* will/could access this information increasing presence and other for the originators, and for tracking of their usage. -- MEB a Peoples' counsel -- "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:eY%239CheEJHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... | | | "~BD~" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message | news:OIAUF$cEJHA.5732@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... | | | | > "~BD~" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message | | > news:uXgWA0ZEJHA.3476@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... | | >> | | >> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message | | >> news:10E9AABE-ED76-4C6E-9CC9-905450792A00@microsoft.com... | | >>> Thanks Dave for the correction. | | >> | | >> :) This was meant to be light-hearted, albeit with serious undertones | (for 98 Guy anyway!) | | >> | | >> Maybe you can help me. I posted a message in the Microsoft security | group earlier this morning in | | >> 'your' Source Code thread. When I checked just now (using Outlook | Express) the message header had | | >> a line scored through it and in the message box it said the message is | no longer available on the | | >> server. | | >> | | >> Have you ever seen this happen before? Any idea why it might happen? | | >> | | >> It is, however, still showing on Google Groups. I repeat it here:- | | >> | | >> (It was in response to FromTheRafters who said ....... ) | | >> | | >> "The transmission is textual - the protocol has no issues I am | | >> aware of. Any security risk would probably be in the extensions | | >> that allow this textual data to 'contain' malware - similar to the | | >> e-mail protocols". | | >> | | >> * | | >> | | >> * | | >> | | >> | | >> Hmmm! <stroking chin!> | | >> | | >> What about when 'pictures' or photographs are included (including | screenshots) - there's a term | | >> for | | >> that which escapes me right now! In other words, not in 'plain text'. | | >> | | >> | | >> I once received a 'screenshot' as an email attachment (I'd asked for it | to be sent to me). I | | >> opened | | >> the 'picture' (jpeg I think) and all seemed fine. | | >> | | >> | | >> I then opened the file with Notepad (I do crazy things like that!). | Wow! Inside that file, above | | >> all the 'gobbledegook' one might expect, were *live* links to all | manner of web pages ,,,,,,,, of | | >> course I went and looked! <grin> | | >> | | >> | | >> During my experimentation over the years, I've seen lots of SPAM | (advertising the likes of Viagra | | >> and Jewelry) - every one of those links shown in Notepad was, I'm | certain, taking me to a SPAM | | >> site! | | >> | | >> | | >> I''ve been told that is impossible ........... yet I saw it with my own | eyes! So there! | | >> | | >> | | >> Any thoughts? | | >> | | >> | | >> Dave | | >> | | >> | | >> -- | | | | | | "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message | news:%23IGr4ocEJHA.1272@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... | | > All kinds of stuff gets immediately rejected or filtered out soon after | it gets posts to the MS | | > server. There is generally no rhyme no reason for it. Fact is, nobody is | in charge of the MS news | | > servers. What there *is* is an ad hoc group of people with differing and | sometimes ridiculous | | > ideas about how to block SPAM and "objectionable" material, whatever | they decide that is. | | > -- | | > Gary S. Terhune | | > MS-MVP Shell/User | | > http://grystmill.com | | | | | | Gary - thanks for taking the time and trouble to respond. I've come to | respect your expertise and | | attitude. Thanks. | | | | It took me a fair while to appreciate that the MS news servers were | divorced from Microsoft itself | | and that there is no moderation here, in general terms anyway. I'm quite | certain that a very high | | percentage of folk visiting the groups do so out of desperation - I know I | did! I must have been | | using Outlook Express for about 8 years before I became aware that it | could be used for | | participating in newsgroups in addition to use for email! Doh! | | | | I have, though, always assumed that Microsoft funds the cost of running | the servers. Can you confirm | | that that is so? I did once question why there are two active servers - | news.microsoft.com AND | | msnews.microsoft.com. A historical 'quirk' I believe I was told. | | | | I'm uncertain if you read right through my post. Have you any | understanding of *how* live links to | | web sites could be 'hidden' within a jpeg file? I'm happy for you to email | me if you would prefer so | | to do. Just let me know here and I'll give you my address. TIA | | | | In the meantime, I'll try posting my message to FTR again and see what | happens this time! | | | | Dave | | | | Dave | | | | -- | | The JPEG/JGP issue was a matter of concern [and still is] several years ago | with numerous sites related and discussions in the forums. One could | reasonably state that the/those format(s) has(have) been used successfully | to do exactly as you indicate. | | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=JPEG+used+to+hack&btnG=Search | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=JPEG+vulnerability&btnG=Search | | | -- | MEB | a Peoples' counsel | -- | _________ | | |
Guest ~BD~ Posted September 8, 2008 Posted September 8, 2008 Re: A Puzzle! Re: A Puzzle! "Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message news:t91bc4t07kdo8bkcd304dev3add2m24pfk@4ax.com... > "~BD~" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote: > >>I have, though, always assumed that Microsoft funds the cost of running the servers. Can you >>confirm >>that that is so? I did once question why there are two active servers - news.microsoft.com AND >>msnews.microsoft.com. A historical 'quirk' I believe I was told. > > The servers belong to Microsoft, they contract out the actual running > of them. There's only one server address, both domain names resolve to > the same IP address. > > -- > Tim Slattery > MS MVP(Shell/User) > Slattery_T@bls.gov > http://members.cox.net/slatteryt Thank you, Tim. I guess it follows that Microsoft picks up the tab! ;) Dave --
Guest FromTheRafters Posted September 9, 2008 Posted September 9, 2008 Re: A Puzzle! Re: A Puzzle! http://everything2.com/?node_id=1367818 "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:eY%239CheEJHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > > "~BD~" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message > news:OIAUF$cEJHA.5732@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > | > | > "~BD~" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message > | > news:uXgWA0ZEJHA.3476@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > | >> > | >> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > | >> news:10E9AABE-ED76-4C6E-9CC9-905450792A00@microsoft.com... > | >>> Thanks Dave for the correction. > | >> > | >> :) This was meant to be light-hearted, albeit with serious > undertones > (for 98 Guy anyway!) > | >> > | >> Maybe you can help me. I posted a message in the Microsoft security > group earlier this morning in > | >> 'your' Source Code thread. When I checked just now (using Outlook > Express) the message header had > | >> a line scored through it and in the message box it said the message > is > no longer available on the > | >> server. > | >> > | >> Have you ever seen this happen before? Any idea why it might happen? > | >> > | >> It is, however, still showing on Google Groups. I repeat it here:- > | >> > | >> (It was in response to FromTheRafters who said ....... ) > | >> > | >> "The transmission is textual - the protocol has no issues I am > | >> aware of. Any security risk would probably be in the extensions > | >> that allow this textual data to 'contain' malware - similar to the > | >> e-mail protocols". > | >> > | >> * > | >> > | >> * > | >> > | >> > | >> Hmmm! <stroking chin!> > | >> > | >> What about when 'pictures' or photographs are included (including > screenshots) - there's a term > | >> for > | >> that which escapes me right now! In other words, not in 'plain text'. > | >> > | >> > | >> I once received a 'screenshot' as an email attachment (I'd asked for > it > to be sent to me). I > | >> opened > | >> the 'picture' (jpeg I think) and all seemed fine. > | >> > | >> > | >> I then opened the file with Notepad (I do crazy things like that!). > Wow! Inside that file, above > | >> all the 'gobbledegook' one might expect, were *live* links to all > manner of web pages ,,,,,,,, of > | >> course I went and looked! <grin> > | >> > | >> > | >> During my experimentation over the years, I've seen lots of SPAM > (advertising the likes of Viagra > | >> and Jewelry) - every one of those links shown in Notepad was, I'm > certain, taking me to a SPAM > | >> site! > | >> > | >> > | >> I''ve been told that is impossible ........... yet I saw it with my > own > eyes! So there! > | >> > | >> > | >> Any thoughts? > | >> > | >> > | >> Dave > | >> > | >> > | >> -- > | > | > | "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > news:%23IGr4ocEJHA.1272@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > | > All kinds of stuff gets immediately rejected or filtered out soon > after > it gets posts to the MS > | > server. There is generally no rhyme no reason for it. Fact is, nobody > is > in charge of the MS news > | > servers. What there *is* is an ad hoc group of people with differing > and > sometimes ridiculous > | > ideas about how to block SPAM and "objectionable" material, whatever > they decide that is. > | > -- > | > Gary S. Terhune > | > MS-MVP Shell/User > | > http://grystmill.com > | > | > | Gary - thanks for taking the time and trouble to respond. I've come to > respect your expertise and > | attitude. Thanks. > | > | It took me a fair while to appreciate that the MS news servers were > divorced from Microsoft itself > | and that there is no moderation here, in general terms anyway. I'm quite > certain that a very high > | percentage of folk visiting the groups do so out of desperation - I know > I > did! I must have been > | using Outlook Express for about 8 years before I became aware that it > could be used for > | participating in newsgroups in addition to use for email! Doh! > | > | I have, though, always assumed that Microsoft funds the cost of running > the servers. Can you confirm > | that that is so? I did once question why there are two active servers - > news.microsoft.com AND > | msnews.microsoft.com. A historical 'quirk' I believe I was told. > | > | I'm uncertain if you read right through my post. Have you any > understanding of *how* live links to > | web sites could be 'hidden' within a jpeg file? I'm happy for you to > email > me if you would prefer so > | to do. Just let me know here and I'll give you my address. TIA > | > | In the meantime, I'll try posting my message to FTR again and see what > happens this time! > | > | Dave > | > | Dave > | > | -- > > The JPEG/JGP issue was a matter of concern [and still is] several years > ago > with numerous sites related and discussions in the forums. One could > reasonably state that the/those format(s) has(have) been used successfully > to do exactly as you indicate. > > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=JPEG+used+to+hack&btnG=Search > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=JPEG+vulnerability&btnG=Search > > > -- > MEB > a Peoples' counsel > -- > _________ > > >
Guest Dan Posted September 9, 2008 Posted September 9, 2008 Re: A Puzzle! Re: A Puzzle! Thanks for the information as well Tim. "Tim Slattery" wrote: > "~BD~" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote: > > >I have, though, always assumed that Microsoft funds the cost of running the servers. Can you confirm > >that that is so? I did once question why there are two active servers - news.microsoft.com AND > >msnews.microsoft.com. A historical 'quirk' I believe I was told. > > The servers belong to Microsoft, they contract out the actual running > of them. There's only one server address, both domain names resolve to > the same IP address. > > -- > Tim Slattery > MS MVP(Shell/User) > Slattery_T@bls.gov > http://members.cox.net/slatteryt >
Guest dave Posted September 9, 2008 Posted September 9, 2008 Re: Copy of Windows 98 Second Edition Which of the 7 Deadly Sins is software piracy? > -- > { : [|]=( DaffyD® its not the sins that is the issue, its whether you believe christ was here, and whether you enter in to his baptism and mannerism. the baptism he proclaimed, and also proclaimed it the loudest by actually doing it, is the baptism of full immersion in water,, performed by another who has the holy ghost inside. at no other time was this ever done, til the christ himself fulfilled it. so, you see my friends, not following christ himself is the greatest and only true sin.... for by following him, the others are negated...... yes? but, as with everything, there lies a trap,, a net to catch fools, and those who puff themselves up, those who exist for their daily dose of 'recognition' from the subjects. this 'trap', so far as humans know it, has a name.... simplist one is satan;; seems everyone is familiar with it, so its generally accepted. (yet in the first few pages of genesis, it tells of this being as 'wiley',, we also hear of him being called a beast, "who devours at will". we also are told that he is 'prince'.... prince of this earth, to reign and do his will,,,, he has 'power' beyond human understanding,, and uses it daily, hourly,, secondly,, atomically. ) christ knows him, and he knows and fears christ..... christ doesnt fear him at all. for satan himself is pure 'fear', he even fears himself....... but he wont stop my freinds,, his mission is to destroy anything and everything that god created, for he despises god, for he is filled with hate. i believe its always good to get to know your enemy, that way, at least you are still in the car, whether in the back seat or the front.... you is still there,, only a last breath can take that from you, then its off to a place that most dont even consider while eating their weetbix in the morning........ yes? anyhoooooo,, this visit to us of christ via god, had one purpose,, and that was/is to allow us to decide whether we are with him, or against him.. simple, huh! it has Nothing to do with catholosism, or hinduism, or islamism..... in fact, it has nothing to do with any flippin' ' ism ' any human can come up with. anyone that thinks otherwise is a fool, ...... in fact, most/all 'religions' point to an 'all being' one god anyway;; its just that they have lost their way....... sigh. you will not find god in a church or mosque on a sunday or saturday or .. whatever, he is the creator of the universe for goodness sake,, you think he twiddles his thumbs waiting for 'special' days..... duh! ppl.... puters are great,,,, but so was the very very very first telly set. glass is a marvelous product, but only astounded the multitudes when they saw it for the first time. the discovery of 'refining' and 'metalurgy' was a fascination to humans of that era, but became 'old hat' as trends and fashions and newer discoveries were made. my point is,,,, there is only one earth,, and yes, many secrets have been yielded from it via digging and refining,,,, (i wouldnt even be typing this if it were not so) but its soul and only purpose was to be a dwelling place for a creature called a 'human'. no man can answer why...... the black-book even tells us this. we get tid-bits of insights,,,,,, primarily being the primary one.... ie, that an omnipotent being had been challenged by one of his omnipotent-underlings, and some sort of war broke out in a place known in the english language as called 'heaven'. this 'war', needed a battle-ground....... welcome to earth. as such, the whole concept of 'life' had been conceived.. (by conception, i mean, that apparantely god only has to 'think' something, and the next minute it is so. was this planet conceived as a battleground between two competitors, sometimes its even hard to not believe that to be true,,,, but because of history books, and especially that of josephus, we know a 'force' or 'power' called 'love', exists, ..... and when used, it increases in power to the user, and also opens up doors to information to the user as it grows in strength. (plz, all, do NOT, confuse this 'love' with the love a man and woman have for each other..... there is a HUGE difference.... okay?) god himself has said that he IS love. the 'qualities' of love are:: enduring, hoping, long-suffering, charity, compassion,,,, and i think you get the point. god also said that : "I Am That I Am". (who hasnt heard or read that ?) it could be written: "I Exist, Therefore, I Am"....... either way, i think god has made his statement as to who and what he is. (primarily that 'he' knows who he is,,, yet we mere win98 users bombard our hours with computers and grocery shopping and ladder climbing.... blah blah) in other words,, all that we see and do, only relates to what goes on on the outside of this rock we call earth...... whereas his world revolves around permutations that none here on this earth could even comprehend.... anyone here beg to differ? friends.... if you go to church on sundays,,, dont. (the sabbath is saturday, and was never ever changed even while christ was here, and he said to 'keep' it, not to change it,, sigh, unfortunately, the catholic hierarchy changed it about 600 or so years ago, claiming that they did it "just because they could" (and they have done many other anti-christic things also,,,,,, stay away from them,,, they dont even worship god himself) next,, get yourself to the nearest person you know who is filled with the holy spirit, and get yourself baptised,, it is imperitive. (do not listen to or believe your mothers or fathers if they have told you that you were baptised as an infant,,,,, trust me, you were not baptised,, again, look to jesus for what to do, and by his act of getting baptised at age 30, he was 'showing you by example' what to do. a child has no free will, but a mature person makes their own decision, and christ is looking for those who 'choose'. next, allow the ghost to gently work in you.... your life will change,, all you saw before, all you knew before, .... it will all seem different as the days pass. you will look people in the eyes, people you feel you have known, and they will seem different to you. your 'eyes of understanding' will be opened, this my friend is how you will know;; and as you accept the ghost more and more,, then more and more will opened and shown to you. for those who are unsure,, go pick up the bible that is in your house.... (its okay, you can do it when no-one is looking.... god wont mind) and open it to the new-testament,, the first gospel, the one by matthew.. turn to chapter 24, and read the reply given by christ when he was asked what the signs would come when the end of gods clock for the earth was near........ and what things christ said would be happening just before he came back;; and the type of madness he would find,, and how mankind itself was ready to annihilate itself. i could go into detail regarding the math of the bible, and the hologramatic codes, and the pi-ra-mid, and stonehenge, and the phonecians, and etc etc....... but suffice to say, Get Yourselves Baptised. (btw, baptise means 'to go under',,, to 'submerge') as fer daffys 'daffy' question...... dunno matey,, so, which do you reckoin is the worst of the 7 deadly sins? got baited breath awaiting. cya
Guest ~BD~ Posted September 9, 2008 Posted September 9, 2008 Re: Copy of Windows 98 Second Edition "dave" <davo@davo.dav> wrote in message news:uW$MVLpEJHA.1272@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > Which of the 7 Deadly Sins is software piracy? >> -- >> { : [|]=( DaffyD® > > > its not the sins that is the issue, its whether you believe christ was here, and whether you enter > in to his baptism and mannerism. the baptism he proclaimed, and also proclaimed it the > loudest > by actually doing it, is the baptism of full immersion in water,, performed by another who has > the > holy ghost inside. > at no other time was this ever done, til the christ himself fulfilled it. > > so, you see my friends, not following christ himself is the greatest and only true sin.... for by > following him, the others are negated...... yes? > but, as with everything, there lies a trap,, a net to catch fools, and those who puff themselves > up, those who exist for their daily dose of 'recognition' from the subjects. > this 'trap', so far as humans know it, has a name.... simplist one is satan;; seems everyone > is > familiar with it, so its generally accepted. > (yet in the first few pages of genesis, it tells of this being as 'wiley',, we also hear of him > being called a beast, "who devours at will". we also are told that he is 'prince'.... prince > of > this earth, to reign and do his will,,,, he has 'power' beyond human understanding,, and uses > it > daily, hourly,, secondly,, atomically. ) > > christ knows him, and he knows and fears christ..... christ doesnt fear him at all. for > satan > himself is pure 'fear', he even fears himself....... but he wont stop my freinds,, his > mission > is to destroy anything and everything that god created, for he despises god, for he is filled with > hate. > i believe its always good to get to know your enemy, that way, at least you are still in the car, > whether in the back seat or the front.... you is still there,, only a last breath can take > that > from you, then its off to a place that most dont even consider while eating their weetbix in the > morning........ yes? > > anyhoooooo,, this visit to us of christ via god, had one purpose,, and that was/is to > allow us to decide whether we are with him, or against him.. simple, huh! > it has Nothing to do with catholosism, or hinduism, or islamism..... in fact, it has nothing to > do with any flippin' ' ism ' any human can come up with. anyone that thinks otherwise is a > fool, ...... in fact, most/all 'religions' point to an 'all being' one god anyway;; its just > that they have lost their way....... sigh. > you will not find god in a church or mosque on a sunday or saturday or .. whatever, he is > the > creator of the universe for goodness sake,, you think he twiddles his thumbs waiting for > 'special' > days..... duh! > > ppl.... puters are great,,,, but so was the very very very first telly set. glass is a > marvelous product, but only astounded the multitudes when they saw it for the first time. > the > discovery of 'refining' and 'metalurgy' was a fascination to humans of that era, but became 'old > hat' as trends and fashions and newer discoveries were made. > my point is,,,, there is only one earth,, and yes, many secrets have been yielded from it via > digging and refining,,,, (i wouldnt even be typing this if it were not so) but its soul and only > purpose was to be a dwelling place for a creature called a 'human'. > no man can answer why...... the black-book even tells us this. we get tid-bits of > insights,,,,,, primarily being the primary one.... ie, that an omnipotent being had been > challenged > by one of his omnipotent-underlings, and some sort of war broke out in a place known in the > english language as called 'heaven'. > > this 'war', needed a battle-ground....... welcome to earth. > > as such, the whole concept of 'life' had been conceived.. (by conception, i mean, that > apparantely > god only has to 'think' something, and the next minute it is so. was this planet conceived as a > battleground between two competitors, sometimes its even hard to not believe that to be true,,,, > but because of history books, and especially that of josephus, we know a 'force' or 'power' called > 'love', exists, ..... and when used, it increases in power to the user, and also opens up doors > to > information to the user as it grows in strength. > (plz, all, do NOT, confuse this 'love' with the love a man and woman have for each other..... > there is a HUGE difference.... okay?) > > god himself has said that he IS love. the 'qualities' of love are:: enduring, hoping, > long-suffering, charity, compassion,,,, and i think you get the point. > god also said that : "I Am That I Am". (who hasnt heard or read that ?) it could be written: > "I Exist, Therefore, I Am"....... either way, i think god has made his statement as to who > and > what he is. (primarily that 'he' knows who he is,,, yet we mere win98 users bombard our hours > with computers and grocery shopping and ladder climbing.... blah blah) > in other words,, all that we see and do, only relates to what goes on on the outside of this > rock > we call earth...... whereas his world revolves around permutations that none here on this earth > could even comprehend.... anyone here beg to differ? > > friends.... if you go to church on sundays,,, dont. (the sabbath is saturday, and was > never > ever changed even while christ was here, and he said to 'keep' it, not to change it,, sigh, > unfortunately, the catholic hierarchy changed it about 600 or so years ago, claiming that they did > it "just because they could" (and they have done many other anti-christic things also,,,,,, > stay > away from them,,, they dont even worship god himself) > next,, get yourself to the nearest person you know who is filled with the holy spirit, and get > yourself baptised,, it is imperitive. (do not listen to or believe your mothers or fathers if > they > have told you that you were baptised as an infant,,,,, trust me, you were not baptised,, > again, look to jesus for what to do, and by his act of getting baptised at age 30, he was 'showing > you by example' what to do. a child has no free will, but a mature person makes their own > decision, and christ is looking for those who 'choose'. > next, allow the ghost to gently work in you.... your life will change,, all you saw before, > all you knew before, .... it will all seem different as the days pass. you will look people in > the eyes, people you feel you have known, and they will seem different to you. your 'eyes > of understanding' will be opened, this my friend is how you will know;; and as you accept > the > ghost more and more,, then more and more will opened and shown to you. > > for those who are unsure,, go pick up the bible that is in your house.... (its okay, you can do > it when no-one is looking.... god wont mind) and open it to the new-testament,, the first > gospel, > the one by matthew.. turn to chapter 24, and read the reply given by christ when he was > asked > what the signs would come when the end of gods clock for the earth was near........ and what > things christ said would be happening just before he came back;; and the type of madness he would > find,, and how mankind itself was ready to annihilate itself. > > i could go into detail regarding the math of the bible, and the hologramatic codes, and the > pi-ra-mid, and stonehenge, and the phonecians, and etc etc....... but suffice to say, Get > Yourselves Baptised. (btw, baptise means 'to go under',,, to 'submerge') > > as fer daffys 'daffy' question...... dunno matey,, so, which do you reckoin is the worst of > the 7 deadly sins? got baited breath awaiting. > > cya > > > > Great post Dave! Thank you :) Out of general interest ....... did *you* write it? (or copy from somewhere else) Some may not have seen Creation from a computer's viewpoint. Watch here: http://www.pi.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/creation.html Enjoy! Dave
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted September 9, 2008 Posted September 9, 2008 Re: Copy of Windows 98 Second Edition God Damned Christians!! Get the Hell out of here! -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com "dave" <davo@davo.dav> wrote in message news:uW$MVLpEJHA.1272@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > Which of the 7 Deadly Sins is software piracy? >> -- >> { : [|]=( DaffyD® > > > its not the sins that is the issue, its whether you believe christ was > here, and whether you enter > in to his baptism and mannerism. the baptism he proclaimed, and also > proclaimed it the loudest > by actually doing it, is the baptism of full immersion in water,, > performed by another who has the > holy ghost inside. > at no other time was this ever done, til the christ himself fulfilled it. > > so, you see my friends, not following christ himself is the greatest and > only true sin.... for by > following him, the others are negated...... yes? > but, as with everything, there lies a trap,, a net to catch fools, and > those who puff themselves > up, those who exist for their daily dose of 'recognition' from the > subjects. > this 'trap', so far as humans know it, has a name.... simplist one is > satan;; seems everyone is > familiar with it, so its generally accepted. > (yet in the first few pages of genesis, it tells of this being as > 'wiley',, we also hear of him > being called a beast, "who devours at will". we also are told that he > is 'prince'.... prince of > this earth, to reign and do his will,,,, he has 'power' beyond human > understanding,, and uses it > daily, hourly,, secondly,, atomically. ) > > christ knows him, and he knows and fears christ..... christ doesnt > fear him at all. for satan > himself is pure 'fear', he even fears himself....... but he wont stop > my freinds,, his mission > is to destroy anything and everything that god created, for he despises > god, for he is filled with > hate. > i believe its always good to get to know your enemy, that way, at least > you are still in the car, > whether in the back seat or the front.... you is still there,, only a > last breath can take that > from you, then its off to a place that most dont even consider while > eating their weetbix in the > morning........ yes? > > anyhoooooo,, this visit to us of christ via god, had one purpose,, > and that was/is to > allow us to decide whether we are with him, or against him.. simple, huh! > it has Nothing to do with catholosism, or hinduism, or islamism..... in > fact, it has nothing to > do with any flippin' ' ism ' any human can come up with. anyone that > thinks otherwise is a > fool, ...... in fact, most/all 'religions' point to an 'all being' one > god anyway;; its just > that they have lost their way....... sigh. > you will not find god in a church or mosque on a sunday or saturday or > .. whatever, he is the > creator of the universe for goodness sake,, you think he twiddles his > thumbs waiting for 'special' > days..... duh! > > ppl.... puters are great,,,, but so was the very very very first > telly set. glass is a > marvelous product, but only astounded the multitudes when they saw it for > the first time. the > discovery of 'refining' and 'metalurgy' was a fascination to humans of > that era, but became 'old > hat' as trends and fashions and newer discoveries were made. > my point is,,,, there is only one earth,, and yes, many secrets have > been yielded from it via > digging and refining,,,, (i wouldnt even be typing this if it were not so) > but its soul and only > purpose was to be a dwelling place for a creature called a 'human'. > no man can answer why...... the black-book even tells us this. we get > tid-bits of > insights,,,,,, primarily being the primary one.... ie, that an omnipotent > being had been challenged > by one of his omnipotent-underlings, and some sort of war broke out in a > place known in the > english language as called 'heaven'. > > this 'war', needed a battle-ground....... welcome to earth. > > as such, the whole concept of 'life' had been conceived.. (by conception, > i mean, that apparantely > god only has to 'think' something, and the next minute it is so. was > this planet conceived as a > battleground between two competitors, sometimes its even hard to not > believe that to be true,,,, > but because of history books, and especially that of josephus, we know a > 'force' or 'power' called > 'love', exists, ..... and when used, it increases in power to the user, > and also opens up doors to > information to the user as it grows in strength. > (plz, all, do NOT, confuse this 'love' with the love a man and woman have > for each other..... > there is a HUGE difference.... okay?) > > god himself has said that he IS love. the 'qualities' of love are:: > enduring, hoping, > long-suffering, charity, compassion,,,, and i think you get the point. > god also said that : "I Am That I Am". (who hasnt heard or read that ?) > it could be written: > "I Exist, Therefore, I Am"....... either way, i think god has made > his statement as to who and > what he is. (primarily that 'he' knows who he is,,, yet we mere win98 > users bombard our hours > with computers and grocery shopping and ladder climbing.... blah blah) > in other words,, all that we see and do, only relates to what goes on on > the outside of this rock > we call earth...... whereas his world revolves around permutations that > none here on this earth > could even comprehend.... anyone here beg to differ? > > friends.... if you go to church on sundays,,, dont. (the sabbath > is saturday, and was never > ever changed even while christ was here, and he said to 'keep' it, not to > change it,, sigh, > unfortunately, the catholic hierarchy changed it about 600 or so years > ago, claiming that they did > it "just because they could" (and they have done many other anti-christic > things also,,,,,, stay > away from them,,, they dont even worship god himself) > next,, get yourself to the nearest person you know who is filled with > the holy spirit, and get > yourself baptised,, it is imperitive. (do not listen to or believe your > mothers or fathers if they > have told you that you were baptised as an infant,,,,, trust me, you > were not baptised,, > again, look to jesus for what to do, and by his act of getting baptised at > age 30, he was 'showing > you by example' what to do. a child has no free will, but a mature > person makes their own > decision, and christ is looking for those who 'choose'. > next, allow the ghost to gently work in you.... your life will > change,, all you saw before, > all you knew before, .... it will all seem different as the days pass. > you will look people in > the eyes, people you feel you have known, and they will seem different to > you. your 'eyes > of understanding' will be opened, this my friend is how you will > know;; and as you accept the > ghost more and more,, then more and more will opened and shown to you. > > for those who are unsure,, go pick up the bible that is in your > house.... (its okay, you can do > it when no-one is looking.... god wont mind) and open it to the > new-testament,, the first gospel, > the one by matthew.. turn to chapter 24, and read the reply given by > christ when he was asked > what the signs would come when the end of gods clock for the earth was > near........ and what > things christ said would be happening just before he came back;; and the > type of madness he would > find,, and how mankind itself was ready to annihilate itself. > > i could go into detail regarding the math of the bible, and the > hologramatic codes, and the > pi-ra-mid, and stonehenge, and the phonecians, and etc etc....... but > suffice to say, Get > Yourselves Baptised. (btw, baptise means 'to go under',,, to 'submerge') > > as fer daffys 'daffy' question...... dunno matey,, so, which do you > reckoin is the worst of > the 7 deadly sins? got baited breath awaiting. > > cya > > >
Guest Franc Zabkar Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 Re: A Puzzle! Re: A Puzzle! On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 17:27:34 +0100, "~BD~" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> put finger to keyboard and composed: >I'm uncertain if you read right through my post. Have you any understanding of *how* live links to >web sites could be 'hidden' within a jpeg file? Apart from such malware being hidden inside an actual JPEG, my browser (Opera) also has a potential vulnerability (IMHO) where a HTML file, say, can be disguised as a JPEG. HTML disguised as JPEG: http://groups.google.com/group/opera.general/browse_thread/thread/c2ebbe6722282167/57427a3e759f28e3?lnk=st&q=#57427a3e759f28e3 http://preview.tinyurl.com/56cwhp - Franc Zabkar -- Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
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