Guest m_ridzon Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 I am running WinXP SP3 Pro. My harddrive is partitioned into 4 partitions with C drive having the operating system on it. I originally formatted this harddrive about 4 years ago making C drive 10GB. Over the 4 years, I've downloaded many software updates for Windows and my other applications. I noticed that I only have about 1.5GB left in C drive and would like to free up some space if possible. Once the downloads are downloaded and ran, do the downloaded files sit dormant somewhere in the C drive? In other words, can I delete the downloaded files to free up C drive space? Or are they constantly being referenced and called upon by the computer system? I am just trying to clean up C drive without making the system unstable. M Ridzon
Guest Pegasus \(MVP\) Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 Re: Cleaning up C drive "m_ridzon" <mridzon@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:79B94302-739C-41B0-A952-40C0F2E6CE04@microsoft.com... >I am running WinXP SP3 Pro. My harddrive is partitioned into 4 partitions > with C drive having the operating system on it. I originally formatted > this > harddrive about 4 years ago making C drive 10GB. Over the 4 years, I've > downloaded many software updates for Windows and my other applications. I > noticed that I only have about 1.5GB left in C drive and would like to > free > up some space if possible. Once the downloads are downloaded and ran, do > the > downloaded files sit dormant somewhere in the C drive? In other words, > can I > delete the downloaded files to free up C drive space? Or are they > constantly > being referenced and called upon by the computer system? > > I am just trying to clean up C drive without making the system unstable. > > M Ridzon It depends on what exactly you downloaded - please give some examples. You might also move the paging file to a different drive in order to free up disk space, and maybe restrict the amount of space used by System Restore.
Guest db.·.. > Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 Re: Cleaning up C drive firstly, i would strongly recommend that you create a winxp sp3 so that you won't have to worry about making your system unstable without the ability to "repair" it. secondly, i would begin deleting any .tmp and ..zip files on the c drive and simply uninstalling any old programs and freewares since there are newer versions available and can be re-installed. -- db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> "m_ridzon" <mridzon@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:79B94302-739C-41B0-A952-40C0F2E6CE04@microsoft.com... >I am running WinXP SP3 Pro. My harddrive is partitioned into 4 partitions > with C drive having the operating system on it. I originally formatted this > harddrive about 4 years ago making C drive 10GB. Over the 4 years, I've > downloaded many software updates for Windows and my other applications. I > noticed that I only have about 1.5GB left in C drive and would like to free > up some space if possible. Once the downloads are downloaded and ran, do the > downloaded files sit dormant somewhere in the C drive? In other words, can I > delete the downloaded files to free up C drive space? Or are they constantly > being referenced and called upon by the computer system? > > I am just trying to clean up C drive without making the system unstable. > > M Ridzon
Guest Ron Badour Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 Re: Cleaning up C drive Have you tried XP's Disk Cleanup (cleanmgr.exe)? Look in your Windows folder for files with names similar to this: $NtUninstallKB946648$ These are the uninstall files for updates that you have downloaded and installed. These files can take up a lot of room so if your machine is stable, these files can be deleted. MVP Doug Knox has a utility to remove the files plus the associated registry entries: http://www.dougknox.com/ In the left panel, select: Win XP Utilities. In the right panel, select: Remove Hotfix Backup Files. Once the files are gone, you will not be able to uninstall the updates; however, if the PC is stable, there should be no need to remove them. You could also resize the partitions and add more space to C: drive; however, you will need special software to do so. BootIt Next Generation is available from: http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/bootitng.html and it does partitioning, makes a compressed image, does many other partitioning chores and is a boot manager. It is not quite as easy to use as Partition Magic but it is half the cost and has more features. Unlike the crippled PMagic demo, BING is a *full function* demo you can try for FREE for 30 days. The web site has a lot of support articles. -- Regards Ron Badour MS MVP Windows Desktop Experience "m_ridzon" <mridzon@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:79B94302-739C-41B0-A952-40C0F2E6CE04@microsoft.com... >I am running WinXP SP3 Pro. My harddrive is partitioned into 4 partitions > with C drive having the operating system on it. I originally formatted > this > harddrive about 4 years ago making C drive 10GB. Over the 4 years, I've > downloaded many software updates for Windows and my other applications. I > noticed that I only have about 1.5GB left in C drive and would like to > free > up some space if possible. Once the downloads are downloaded and ran, do > the > downloaded files sit dormant somewhere in the C drive? In other words, > can I > delete the downloaded files to free up C drive space? Or are they > constantly > being referenced and called upon by the computer system? > > I am just trying to clean up C drive without making the system unstable. > > M Ridzon
Guest Mike Hall - MVP Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 Re: Cleaning up C drive "m_ridzon" <mridzon@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:79B94302-739C-41B0-A952-40C0F2E6CE04@microsoft.com... >I am running WinXP SP3 Pro. My harddrive is partitioned into 4 partitions > with C drive having the operating system on it. I originally formatted > this > harddrive about 4 years ago making C drive 10GB. Over the 4 years, I've > downloaded many software updates for Windows and my other applications. I > noticed that I only have about 1.5GB left in C drive and would like to > free > up some space if possible. Once the downloads are downloaded and ran, do > the > downloaded files sit dormant somewhere in the C drive? In other words, > can I > delete the downloaded files to free up C drive space? Or are they > constantly > being referenced and called upon by the computer system? > > I am just trying to clean up C drive without making the system unstable. > > M Ridzon You can move the downloads to another partition such that you can re-install them easily if you have a problem in the future.. -- Mike Hall - MVP How to construct a good post.. http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups.. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc Mike's Window - My Blog.. http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
Guest m_ridzon Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 Re: Cleaning up C drive Ron, The disk cleanup did quite a bit. I deleted all but the latest restore point and that helped out a lot. I now have 2.6GB of free space. I have a whole bunch of the $NtUninstallKB946648$ files. I'm hesistant to remove them though. There's been instances where I've had to uninstall some of these updates and reinstall them to fix a problem (ie: recent problem in July with XP update and Zone Labs firewall). Mike, You mentioned something about moving the downloads to another partition. Is that possible to do with these Win update uninstall files? db, Is there a specific location I should look for to find a multitude of .tmp and .zip files? Do they all end up in a central location where I can delete them all? Pegasus, How do I move the paging file to a different drive? Is that a good idea or is it preferable to leave on C drive. I have F drive which has about 9GB of free space. Thanks, M Ridzon
Guest Ron Badour Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 Re: Cleaning up C drive You can move the uninstall files; however, you had better have a lot of room available. If your system uses the paging file frequently (minimum ram installed), moving it to the outer ring (F: drive) of the drive may cause a slow down. This would be my last choice for making more space. Zip files could be scattered anywhere--you just have to look for them. Disk cleanup probably got the majority of the .tmp files. You could also limit how much the recycle bin retains and you can limit the temp files IE retains. -- Regards Ron Badour MS MVP Windows Desktop Experience "m_ridzon" <mridzon@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:EE9B9550-C22B-4F77-9CA5-5F1E7DBFEA93@microsoft.com... > Ron, > > The disk cleanup did quite a bit. I deleted all but the latest restore > point and that helped out a lot. I now have 2.6GB of free space. I have > a > whole bunch of the $NtUninstallKB946648$ files. I'm hesistant to remove > them > though. There's been instances where I've had to uninstall some of these > updates and reinstall them to fix a problem (ie: recent problem in July > with > XP update and Zone Labs firewall). > > Mike, > > You mentioned something about moving the downloads to another partition. > Is > that possible to do with these Win update uninstall files? > > db, > > Is there a specific location I should look for to find a multitude of .tmp > and .zip files? Do they all end up in a central location where I can > delete > them all? > > Pegasus, > > How do I move the paging file to a different drive? Is that a good idea > or > is it preferable to leave on C drive. I have F drive which has about 9GB > of > free space. > > Thanks, > M Ridzon
Guest m_ridzon Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 Re: Cleaning up C drive Ron, I don't know how to tell if my system uses the paging file frequently so I'll probably leave it alone. I know I've gotten messages in the past that say "virtual memory low" when I'm running a high powered software program. Someone told me to set the virtual memory to "system managed" to help this problem, which I did. I did a search on C drive for *.zip files and found a bunch. I found Symantec error log files. I found Symantec LiveUpdate files. I found Internet logs. I found a bunch that are related to Java updates and Jave cache. I found one in which the directory is listed as lib/deploy (not sure what it's for). I found a few for the Windows Media Player. Is it safe to delete all of these? Does the system reference to them ever? Will I risk making the system unstable by deleting any of them? Could I possibly email you a screen print of them before deleting them so that you can tell me if it's safe or not? M Ridzon
Guest Ron Badour Posted September 2, 2008 Posted September 2, 2008 Re: Cleaning up C drive You would need an expert on every program that has a .zip file--I am not the person you need. Frankly, unless you can get a definite answer from someone, I would not delete nor move a .zip file. I recall in W98 days that there were programs that actually used .zip files when they were operating. I don't know if the same is true today. -- Regards Ron Badour MS MVP Windows Desktop Experience "m_ridzon" <mridzon@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:84F04656-1323-4BF9-9D48-BDC2CDFACC56@microsoft.com... > Ron, > > I don't know how to tell if my system uses the paging file frequently so > I'll probably leave it alone. I know I've gotten messages in the past > that > say "virtual memory low" when I'm running a high powered software program. > Someone told me to set the virtual memory to "system managed" to help this > problem, which I did. > > I did a search on C drive for *.zip files and found a bunch. I found > Symantec error log files. I found Symantec LiveUpdate files. I found > Internet logs. I found a bunch that are related to Java updates and Jave > cache. I found one in which the directory is listed as lib/deploy (not > sure > what it's for). I found a few for the Windows Media Player. Is it safe > to > delete all of these? Does the system reference to them ever? Will I risk > making the system unstable by deleting any of them? Could I possibly > email > you a screen print of them before deleting them so that you can tell me if > it's safe or not? > > M Ridzon
Guest Plato Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 Re: Cleaning up C drive =?Utf-8?B?bV9yaWR6b24=?= wrote: > > noticed that I only have about 1.5GB left in C drive and would like to free > up some space if possible. Once the downloads are downloaded and ran, do the You want at least 10 gig free at all times. One can use crap cleaner to free up space: http://www.bootdisk.com/utility.htm REGISTRY AND SYSTEM MAINTENANCE Junk File Cleaners But the real issue may be the size of your HDD. Perhaps you need a new, larger one, or need to put your larger files, eg mp3s, videos, on CDs. You may have 25 gig of temporary internet files and windows temp/tmp files, nobody deletes these regularly. Perhaps you should. -- http://www.bootdisk.com/
Guest Plato Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 Re: Cleaning up C drive Pegasus (MVP) wrote: > > > I am just trying to clean up C drive without making the system unstable. > > It depends on what exactly you downloaded - please give some examples. > You might also move the paging file to a different drive in order to free up > disk space, and maybe restrict the amount of space used by System Restore. If you have one hard drive then the page/swap file should be on the same drive as your windows folder.
Guest Plato Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 Re: Cleaning up C drive firstly, fix your word wrap.
Guest Plato Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 Re: Cleaning up C drive Pegasus (MVP) wrote: > > > I am just trying to clean up C drive without making the system unstable. > > > > M Ridzon > > It depends on what exactly you downloaded - please give some examples. > You might also move the paging file to a different drive in order to free up > disk space, and maybe restrict the amount of space used by System Restore. -- http://www.bootdisk.com/
Guest db.·.. > Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 Re: Cleaning up C drive secondly, screw u. -- db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> "Plato" <|@|.|> wrote in message news:48be1cf7$0$4615$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com... > firstly, fix your word wrap.
Guest Bill in Co. Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 Re: Cleaning up C drive So there's that sense of "professionalism" you were espousing, eh? Pretty funny. > secondly, screw u. > > -- > > db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> > > "Plato" <|@|.|> wrote in message > news:48be1cf7$0$4615$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com... >> firstly, fix your word wrap.
Guest Bob I Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 Re: Cleaning up C drive Maybe he bought a professional grade screwdriver? Bill in Co. wrote: > So there's that sense of "professionalism" you were espousing, eh? > Pretty funny. > > >>secondly, screw u. >> >>-- >> >>db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> >> >>"Plato" <|@|.|> wrote in message >>news:48be1cf7$0$4615$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com... >> >>>firstly, fix your word wrap. > > >
Guest db.·.. > Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 Re: Cleaning up C drive professionalism? i demand it from mvp's but not from monkeys like yourselves. -- db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> "Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:OQoX6meDJHA.1008@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... Maybe he bought a professional grade screwdriver? Bill in Co. wrote: > So there's that sense of "professionalism" you were espousing, eh? Pretty funny. > > >>secondly, screw u. >> >>-- >> >>db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> >> >>"Plato" <|@|.|> wrote in message news:48be1cf7$0$4615$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com... >> >>>firstly, fix your word wrap. > > >
Guest Bill in Co. Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 Re: Cleaning up C drive > professionalism? > > i demand it from > mvp's but not from > monkeys like yourselves. And apparently not even yourself. Pot, kettle - the hypocrisy is truly something to behold. > -- > > db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> > > "Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:OQoX6meDJHA.1008@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... Maybe he bought a > professional > grade screwdriver? > Bill in Co. wrote: > >> So there's that sense of "professionalism" you were espousing, eh? Pretty >> funny. >>> secondly, screw u. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> >>> >>> "Plato" <|@|.|> wrote in message >>> news:48be1cf7$0$4615$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com... >>>> firstly, fix your word wrap.
Guest Bob I Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 Re: Cleaning up C drive Since this is a peer group, I suspect you are referring to yourself again. db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. . wrote: > professionalism? > > i demand it from > mvp's but not from > monkeys like yourselves. > >
Guest db.·.. > Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 Re: Cleaning up C drive obviously you are not sure what your talking about, since you are not anyone's peer. -- db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> "Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:OTOBQFfDJHA.1228@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... Since this is a peer group, I suspect you are referring to yourself again. db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. . wrote: > professionalism? > > i demand it from > mvp's but not from > monkeys like yourselves. > >
Guest Bob I Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 Re: Cleaning up C drive Please go away, since you NEVER know what you're talking about. db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. . wrote: > obviously you are > not sure what > your talking about, > since you are not > anyone's peer. >
Guest Fat Monkey Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 Re: Cleaning up C drive I haven't seen any evidence that MVPs are professionals so it makes no difference whether you demand from monkeys or MVPs. Hope this helps. db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. . wrote: > professionalism? > > i demand it from > mvp's but not from > monkeys like yourselves. > >
Guest db.·.. > Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 Re: Cleaning up C drive well, if you cant take it, then dont dish it out. -- db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> "Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:ejYzGtfDJHA.340@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... Please go away, since you NEVER know what you're talking about. db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. . wrote: > obviously you are > not sure what > your talking about, > since you are not > anyone's peer. >
Guest db.·.. > Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 Re: Cleaning up C drive obviously you dont have the courage to make judgments with out masking your identity. -- db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> "Fat Monkey" <Fat Monkey@DatabaseBen.com> wrote in message news:eFTlMyfDJHA.936@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > I haven't seen any evidence that MVPs are professionals so it makes no difference whether you demand from monkeys or MVPs. > > Hope this helps. > > > > db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. . wrote: > >> professionalism? >> >> i demand it from >> mvp's but not from >> monkeys like yourselves. >> >>
Guest Bob I Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 Re: Cleaning up C drive Would you like a spoon for that? db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. . wrote: > well, if you cant > take it, then dont > dish it out. >
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