Guest Jim Brown Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 I am running Windows XP Home. What is the best most reliable registry cleaner for this system?
Guest R. McCarty Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 Re: Registry cleaner None - unless you want to take a working PC and place it at risk of becoming erratic. Registry Cleaning is similar to the effect of a Fuel enhancer like STP. You may image it helps but there is little if any proof that it does. About the only left-overs of a uninstalled app might be a startup service ( Norton products specifically ) but those can be handled by a manual change. There are far more effective routine maintenance operations for a PC that deliver "Real" benefits than Registry Cleaning. "Jim Brown" <jbrown15@hvc.rr.com> wrote in message news:OnwxxRdDJHA.3268@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > I am running Windows XP Home. What is the best most reliable registry > cleaner for this system? >
Guest John John (MVP) Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 Re: Registry cleaner None of them are reliable! Those cleaners do more harm than good, don't bother with them, they aren't needed. If you feel a need to "clean" something go in the attic and clean the cobwebs off the rafters, it will provide more benefit than any registry cleaner ever will... John Jim Brown wrote: > I am running Windows XP Home. What is the best most reliable registry > cleaner for this system? > >
Guest Big_Al Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 Re: Registry cleaner Jim Brown wrote: > I am running Windows XP Home. What is the best most reliable registry > cleaner for this system? > > I know everyone hates them. But I use Tune Up Utilities 2008 and its system cleaner and registry cleaner. But the main issue, and everyone is saying it, they can delete too much. I watch very closely what they delete. History yes, IE cache yes, Firefox cache yes, temp files yes, etc. But when it gets to registry, I kinda look for things I know are deleted and uncheck all the other items. Be smart and you may not have an issue. I do mine once a quarter or so, and I do a full backup image and put in the reason why. I'm ready to repair it, and I have 90 days to see if it did any long term harm. Its bad when you have to backup before running programs now a days. But so is life and thus part of the reason people advise not to.
Guest Bob I Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 Re: Registry cleaner RegEdit. Jim Brown wrote: > I am running Windows XP Home. What is the best most reliable registry > cleaner for this system? > >
Guest John Barnett MVP Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 Re: Registry cleaner This is a regular asked question. The simple answer is: If you are do not feel competent or confident to manually edit the registry, then leave well alone. In most cases registry cleaners cause more problems than they solve. -- -- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert Windows Desktop Experience Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org Web: http://www.silversurferguide.org The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this mail/post.. "Jim Brown" <jbrown15@hvc.rr.com> wrote in message news:OnwxxRdDJHA.3268@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > I am running Windows XP Home. What is the best most reliable registry > cleaner for this system? >
Guest PA Bear [MS MVP] Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 Re: Registry cleaner None. Think your Registry needs "cleaning" or "repairing"? Read http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099 and draw your own conclusions. -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002 AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net DTS-L http://dts-l.net/ Jim Brown wrote: > I am running Windows XP Home. What is the best most reliable registry > cleaner for this system?
Guest db.·.. > Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 Re: Registry cleaner the best registry cleaner for microsoft windows is the one made by microsoft: http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm -- db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> "Jim Brown" <jbrown15@hvc.rr.com> wrote in message news:OnwxxRdDJHA.3268@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > I am running Windows XP Home. What is the best most reliable registry cleaner for this system? >
Guest Bill in Co. Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 Re: Registry cleaner Here we go again.... > the best registry cleaner > for microsoft windows > is the one made by > microsoft: > > http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm > > > -- > > db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> > > "Jim Brown" <jbrown15@hvc.rr.com> wrote in message > news:OnwxxRdDJHA.3268@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> I am running Windows XP Home. What is the best most reliable registry >> cleaner for this system?
Guest smlunatick Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 Re: Registry cleaner On Sep 3, 6:05 pm, db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. . <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote: > the best registry cleaner > for microsoft windows > is the one made by > microsoft: > > http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm > > -- > > db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> > > "Jim Brown" <jbrow...@hvc.rr.com> wrote in messagenews:OnwxxRdDJHA.3268@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > I am running Windows XP Home. What is the best most reliable registry cleaner for this system? n(Onecare) has never been reliable and now you want to recommend it for a registry cleaner???
Guest db.·.. > Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 Re: Registry cleaner its highly reliable on my machines and mine work in utter perfection. so i can't vouch for yours. -- db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> "smlunatick" <yveslec@gmail.com> wrote in message news:24a49826-c4e2-457e-a8dd-816e50999dcf@l43g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... On Sep 3, 6:05 pm, db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. . <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote: > the best registry cleaner > for microsoft windows > is the one made by > microsoft: > > http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm > > -- > > db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> > > "Jim Brown" <jbrow...@hvc.rr.com> wrote in messagenews:OnwxxRdDJHA.3268@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > I am running Windows XP Home. What is the best most reliable registry cleaner for this system? n(Onecare) has never been reliable and now you want to recommend it for a registry cleaner???
Guest Bill in Co. Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 Re: Registry cleaner smlunatick wrote: > On Sep 3, 6:05 pm, db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. . > <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote: >> the best registry cleaner >> for microsoft windows >> is the one made by >> microsoft: >> >> http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm >> >> -- >> >> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> >> >> "Jim Brown" <jbrow...@hvc.rr.com> wrote in >> messagenews:OnwxxRdDJHA.3268@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> I am running Windows XP Home. What is the best most reliable registry >>> cleaner for this system? > > n(Onecare) has never been reliable and now you want to recommend it > for a registry cleaner??? Well, for sure! Just like he probably recommends setting one's word wrap to one inch per line, like he does.
Guest Alec S. Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 Re: Registry cleaner Bob I wrote (in news:OS5mlkdDJHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl): > Jim Brown wrote: > > > I am running Windows XP Home. What is the best most reliable registry > > cleaner for this system? > > RegEdit. You know, for the most part that actually can work for both deleting stuff /and/ for compacting/defragging. Of course you’ll need to boot into safe mode, or even better another copy of Windows. -- Alec S. news/alec->synetech/cjb/net
Guest Alec S. Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 Re: Registry cleaner > its highly reliable on > my machines and mine > work in utter perfection. > > so i can't vouch for > yours. Then your advice is of limited usefullness. The best advice is that which takes into consideration the variety of system configurations and user knowledge. Of course everyone can forget now and then, but you have to try to keep in mind that not all users and their systems are like you and yours. Bill in Co. wrote (in news:uGRFBEfDJHA.2476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl): > smlunatick wrote: > > n(Onecare) has never been reliable and now you want to recommend it > > for a registry cleaner??? > > Well, for sure! Just like he probably recommends setting one's word wrap > to one inch per line, like he does. Well it is readable and does stand out doesn’t it? You can’t condemn him for his style if it isn’t horrible, which it’s not. Maybe you prefer everything to look and be formatted exactly alike, do away with CSS altogether? smlunatick wrote (in news:24a49826-c4e2-457e-a8dd-816e50999dcf@l43g2000hsh.googlegroups.com): > n(Onecare) has never been reliable and now you want to recommend it > for a registry cleaner??? I’ve never used Onecare myself, but I would think that if it’s from Microsoft that it would be fairly safe and/or useful; they would know how their own product works and how to maintain it—well, presumably. :) Of course this application may be aquired rather than written in-house, which would mean that it would be better to wait for them to go through it from scratch. Either way, there’s usually little to be gained from these tools, even for advanced users. -- Alec S. news/alec->synetech/cjb/net
Guest db.·.. > Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 Re: Registry cleaner just because your configuration is all screwed up, doesn't mean every one else's is. -- db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> "Alec S." <@> wrote in message news:uAzLiafDJHA.3668@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> its highly reliable on >> my machines and mine >> work in utter perfection. >> >> so i can't vouch for >> yours. > > Then your advice is of limited usefullness. The best advice is that which takes > into consideration the variety of system configurations and user knowledge. Of > course everyone can forget now and then, but you have to try to keep in mind > that not all users and their systems are like you and yours. > > > Bill in Co. wrote (in news:uGRFBEfDJHA.2476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl): >> smlunatick wrote: >> > n(Onecare) has never been reliable and now you want to recommend it >> > for a registry cleaner??? >> >> Well, for sure! Just like he probably recommends setting one's word wrap >> to one inch per line, like he does. > > Well it is readable and does stand out doesn’t it? You can’t condemn him for his > style if it isn’t horrible, which it’s not. Maybe you prefer everything to look > and be formatted exactly alike, do away with CSS altogether? > > > smlunatick wrote (in > news:24a49826-c4e2-457e-a8dd-816e50999dcf@l43g2000hsh.googlegroups.com): > >> n(Onecare) has never been reliable and now you want to recommend it >> for a registry cleaner??? > > I’ve never used Onecare myself, but I would think that if it’s from Microsoft > that it would be fairly safe and/or useful; they would know how their own > product works and how to maintain it—well, presumably. :) Of course this > application may be aquired rather than written in-house, which would mean that > it would be better to wait for them to go through it from scratch. > > > > Either way, there’s usually little to be gained from these tools, even for > advanced users. > > -- > Alec S. > news/alec->synetech/cjb/net > >
Guest Plato Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 Re: Registry cleaner Jim Brown wrote: > > I am running Windows XP Home. What is the best most reliable registry > cleaner for this system? None, there is no best. You'll have to experiement with several to find out what you like: http://www.bootdisk.com/utility.htm Windows XP Specific REGISTRY AND SYSTEM CLEANERS and http://www.bootdisk.com/utility.htm REGISTRY AND SYSTEM MAINTENANCE
Guest Kayman Posted September 4, 2008 Posted September 4, 2008 Re: Registry cleaner On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 10:50:45 -0400, Jim Brown wrote: > I am running Windows XP Home. What is the best most reliable registry > cleaner for this system? Why I don¢t use registry cleaners! http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000643.html I'd use CCleaner ignoring the registry scanning/fixing option followed by using NTREGOPT http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/
Guest Bruce Chambers Posted September 4, 2008 Posted September 4, 2008 Re: Registry cleaner Jim Brown wrote: > I am running Windows XP Home. What is the best most reliable registry > cleaner for this system? > > The best registry cleaner is *NO* registry cleaner. A registry cleaner - even a safe one, should such ever be developed someday - is, at best, an exercise in futility. There is no need for registry cleaners, other than to provide a profit to their manufacturers. On rare occasions, registry cleaners can be, in the hands of a skilled technician, useful, time-saving diagnostic tools. Otherwise, they're nothing but snake oil. Why do you even think you'd ever need to clean your registry? What specific *problems* are you actually experiencing (not some program's bogus listing of imaginary problems) that you think can be fixed by using a registry cleaner? If you do have a problem that is rooted in the registry, it would be far better to simply edit (after backing up, of course) only the specific key(s) and/or value(s) that are causing the problem. After all, why use a chainsaw when a scalpel will do the job? Additionally, the manually changing of one or two registry entries is far less likely to have the dire consequences of allowing an automated product to make multiple changes simultaneously. The only thing needed to safely clean your registry is knowledge and Regedit.exe. The registry contains all of the operating system's "knowledge" of the computer's hardware devices, installed software, the location of the device drivers, and the computer's configuration. A misstep in the registry can have severe consequences. One should not even turning loose a poorly understood automated "cleaner," unless he is fully confident that he knows *exactly* what is going to happen as a result of each and every change. Having repeatedly seen the results of inexperienced people using automated registry "cleaners," I can only advise all but the most experienced computer technicians (and/or hobbyists) to avoid them all. Experience has shown me that such tools simply are not safe in the hands of the inexperienced user. If you lack the knowledge and experience to maintain your registry by yourself, then you also lack the knowledge and experience to safely configure and use any automated registry cleaner, no matter how safe they claim to be. More importantly, no one has ever demonstrated that the use of an automated registry cleaner, particularly by an untrained, inexperienced computer user, does any real good, whatsoever. There's certainly been no empirical evidence offered to demonstrate that the use of such products to "clean" WinXP's registry improves a computer's performance or stability. Given the potential for harm, it's just not worth the risk. Granted, most registry "cleaners" won't cause problems each and every time they're used, but the potential for harm is always there. And, since no registry "cleaner" has ever been demonstrated to do any good (think of them like treating the flu with chicken soup - there's no real medicinal value, but it sometimes provides a warming placebo effect), I always tell people that the risks far out-weigh the non-existent benefits. I will concede that a good registry *scanning* tool, in the hands of an experienced and knowledgeable technician or hobbyist can be a useful time-saving diagnostic tool, as long as it's not allowed to make any changes automatically. But I really don't think that there are any registry cleaners that are truly safe for the general public to use. Experience has proven just the opposite: such tools simply are not safe in the hands of the inexperienced user. -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers. ~ Denis Diderot
Guest Curt Christianson Posted September 4, 2008 Posted September 4, 2008 Re: Registry cleaner Hi Jim, An extremely controversial subject at best. I agree with most of the posters, except db. As far as I know, he/she is *about* the *only one* who recommends MS Onecare--in many people eyes it is junk if anything. I agree with Bob I, the best tool to use is the Registry Editor "regedit.exe", and manually delete the offending entries. If one *does not* know how to do this, they shouldn't be messing with the Registry anyway. After using regedit, Kayman's suggestion of NTREGOPT (http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/) comes highly recommended, and I use it myself. . If you want to see a more in-depth discussion, see PA Bear's link. I think you may find it interesting and informative. (http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099 ) -- Curt http://dundats.mvps.org/ http://www.aumha.org/ http://dundats.mvps.org/AutoIt/default.aspx "Jim Brown" <jbrown15@hvc.rr.com> wrote in message news:OnwxxRdDJHA.3268@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > I am running Windows XP Home. What is the best most reliable registry > cleaner for this system? >
Guest Daave Posted September 4, 2008 Posted September 4, 2008 Re: Registry cleaner I know. What an ultramaroon! That's like saying that the best partitioning tool is the Windows Disk Management tool because Microsoft made it! Ben's critical thinking skills leave a lot to be desired. I hope he's not a registered voter. To the OP, it should be clear that those who are familiar with this issue are pretty much all saying that there is no concrete, objective, verifiable evidence that registry "cleaning" is beneficial to a PC's performance. Furthermore, although unlikely, it's possible to do some serious damage if you use a registry "cleaner" (and many have done just this). Also keep in mind that there are many rogue programs that claim to clean the registry, but they are actually malicious programs that constantly get in the way, prodding you to purchase their full product. To keep your system in tiptop shape, see the following: http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/slowcom.htm http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Genl_Computer_Info "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:uaGdFleDJHA.2484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Here we go again.... > >> the best registry cleaner >> for microsoft windows >> is the one made by >> microsoft: >> >> http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm >> >> >> -- >> >> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> >> >> "Jim Brown" <jbrown15@hvc.rr.com> wrote in message >> news:OnwxxRdDJHA.3268@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> I am running Windows XP Home. What is the best most reliable >>> registry >>> cleaner for this system?
Guest Carl Kaufmann Posted September 4, 2008 Posted September 4, 2008 Re: Registry cleaner db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. . wrote: > its highly reliable on > my machines and mine > work in utter perfection. > > so i can't vouch for > yours. > Counter point: It will kill an UltraVNC installation. Carl
Guest db.·.. > Posted September 4, 2008 Posted September 4, 2008 Re: Registry cleaner no. don't mix apples and oranges. my machines run in ultra perfection and do so without your crappy opinions or the other trolls that you enable and support. unfortunately, you believe that the world has to be exactly as you believe it, otherwise everyone else are maroons. basically, you are a moron for not respecting the opinions of others. go find a bridge and take cover, chicken little. -- db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> "Daave" <dcwashNOSPAM@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote in message news:eRgUiykDJHA.3392@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >I know. What an ultramaroon! > > That's like saying that the best partitioning tool is the Windows Disk Management tool because Microsoft made it! > > Ben's critical thinking skills leave a lot to be desired. I hope he's not a registered voter. > > To the OP, it should be clear that those who are familiar with this issue are pretty much all saying that there is no concrete, > objective, verifiable evidence that registry "cleaning" is beneficial to a PC's performance. Furthermore, although unlikely, it's > possible to do some serious damage if you use a registry "cleaner" (and many have done just this). Also keep in mind that there > are many rogue programs that claim to clean the registry, but they are actually malicious programs that constantly get in the way, > prodding you to purchase their full product. > > To keep your system in tiptop shape, see the following: > > http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/slowcom.htm > > http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Genl_Computer_Info > > > "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:uaGdFleDJHA.2484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> Here we go again.... >> >>> the best registry cleaner >>> for microsoft windows >>> is the one made by >>> microsoft: >>> >>> http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> >>> >>> "Jim Brown" <jbrown15@hvc.rr.com> wrote in message >>> news:OnwxxRdDJHA.3268@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> I am running Windows XP Home. What is the best most reliable registry >>>> cleaner for this system? > >
Guest Bill in Co. Posted September 4, 2008 Posted September 4, 2008 Re: Registry cleaner > no. don't mix apples > and oranges. > > my machines run in > ultra perfection and > do so without your > crappy opinions or > the other trolls that > you enable and support. > > unfortunately, you > believe that the world > has to be exactly as > you believe it, otherwise > everyone else are maroons. > > basically, you are a > moron for not respecting > the opinions of others. Talking about yourself again? Unbelieveable....
Guest Daave Posted September 4, 2008 Posted September 4, 2008 Re: Registry cleaner Bill in Co. wrote: >> no. don't mix apples >> and oranges. >> >> my machines run in >> ultra perfection and >> do so without your >> crappy opinions or >> the other trolls that >> you enable and support. >> >> unfortunately, you >> believe that the world >> has to be exactly as >> you believe it, otherwise >> everyone else are maroons. >> >> basically, you are a >> moron for not respecting >> the opinions of others. > > Talking about yourself again? Unbelieveable.... Next thing he'll be getting on my case for not respecting the opinions of the members of the Flat Earth Society. Again, lack of critical thinking skills... And bad haiku, too.
Guest db.·.. > Posted September 4, 2008 Posted September 4, 2008 Trolls of a feather flock together Trolls of a feather flock together the problem is likely due to the top of your head being flat. -- db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> "Daave" <dcwashNOSPAM@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote in message news:%23cr55orDJHA.1180@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Bill in Co. wrote: >>> no. don't mix apples >>> and oranges. >>> >>> my machines run in >>> ultra perfection and >>> do so without your >>> crappy opinions or >>> the other trolls that >>> you enable and support. >>> >>> unfortunately, you >>> believe that the world >>> has to be exactly as >>> you believe it, otherwise >>> everyone else are maroons. >>> >>> basically, you are a >>> moron for not respecting >>> the opinions of others. >> >> Talking about yourself again? Unbelieveable.... > > Next thing he'll be getting on my case for not respecting the opinions of the members of the Flat Earth Society. Again, lack of > critical thinking skills... And bad haiku, too. >
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