ARTICLE> MICROSOFT: Learning from their STUPID VISTA MISTAKES!

[Guest leap frog vista]

We all know that Vista is crap. Well not all of us realise this, only those

of us who have a brain...

 

MS, AT LAST realizes the many blunders it made with vista and is trying to

correct them in Windows 7.

 

Why are they doing this? Well because of fear. People hate vista and are

turning towards other solutions.

People hate vista and are making fun of it. People hate vista and are

calling it the Me of NT. People know vista is slow

and performs well enough only on 4 core machines with 2 gigs of ram or more.

Totally ridiculous!

 

Note: I posted this on the XP newsgroup for the XP users to warn them to

WAIT until windows 7 is out. Don't throw away money on vista if you are not

getting a new fast machine.

Or in other words, LEAPFROG vista! YEAH!

 

Read below:

 

http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1563

 

When Microsoft was developing Vista, or Longhorn, as it was known way back

when, company officials were fond of making promises about ways that

Microsoft would improve on Windows XP with its next-generation Windows

release.

 

With Windows 7, Microsoft's goal seems to be to provide as few promises as

possible against which the final product can and will be compared and

measured. That said, over the Labor Day weekend in a post by Distinguished

Engineer Michael Fortin - who leads the Fundamnetals feature team in the

Core Operating Systems Group - Microsoft did dangle one tangible tidbit

about Windows 7. From the post:

 

"For Windows 7, a top goal is to significantly increase the number of

systems that experience very good boot times. In the lab, a very good system

is one that boots in under 15 seconds."

 

(The reason I put a question mark in the headline of my post is because

Fortin doesn't actually go so far as to say that Microsoft is promising to

hit the rarefied "in the lab" boot-time measure. But the implication is

definitely there.)

 

The August 29 post goes on to discuss how Microsoft is aiming to reduce the

number of system services in Windows 7, "as well as reduce their CPU, disk

and memory demand" as part of the quest to improve overall system

performance with Windows 7. Windows 7 will include more enhancements to

pre-fetching, which was introduced initially as part of Windows XP,

according to Fortin's post, and more parallelism in driver initialization -

two more ways Microsoft is counting on speeding up initial system boot

times.

 

Microsoft also is working with PC makers to show them ways to improve

Windows 7 system performance, as well, Fortin blogged. He wrote:

 

"(W)e'd like to point out there is considerable engagement with our partners

underway. In scanning dozens of systems, we've found plenty of opportunity

for improvement and have made changes. Illustrating that, please consider

the following data taken from a real system. As the system arrived to us,

the off-the-shelf configuration had a ~45 second boot time. Performing a

clean install of Vista SP1 on the same system produced a consistent ~23

second boot time. Of course, being a clean install, there were many fewer

processes, services and a slightly different set of drivers (mostly the

versions were different). However, we were able to take the off-the-shelf

configuration and optimize it to produce a consistent boot time of ~21

seconds, ~2 seconds faster than the clean install because some driver/BIOS

changes could be made in the optimized configuration."

 

The much-touted official "Engineering Windows 7? blog has provided a lot of

words about how Microsoft developers think about building an operating

system and how/why certain trade-offs are made. But specifics on Windows 7

features? Sounds like Microsoft won't be sharing anything substantial on

that until it releases a broader test build of 7, which is expected around

the time of the Professional Developers Conference in late October.

[Guest Ringmaster]

Re: You're an idiot

 

Re: You're an idiot

 

On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 08:43:20 -0700, "Gazill Yanaire"

<gazill@yanaire.com> wrote:

>

>"leap frog vista" <leapfrog@vizztal.com> wrote in message

>news:48beafb5@newsgate.x-privat.org...

>> We all know that Vista is crap. Well not all of us realise this, only

>> those of us who have a brain...

>

>Your problem is you don't have the brains to run Vista.

 

You don't need brains to run Vista. You and Frank are proof of that.

You however do need brains to understand how badly flawed Vista is.

[Guest fb]

capin' crunch gets his panties all in a bunch...again!...LOL!

 

capin' crunch gets his panties all in a bunch...again!...LOL!

 

#1 idiot moron loser, capin' crunch wrote:

 

We all know that Vista is crap.

 

----------------------------------------

That is your personal opinion.

An opinion not shared by millions of Vista users.

Get a life.

[Guest Gazill Yanaire]

Re: You're an idiot

 

Re: You're an idiot

 

 

"Ringmaster" <bigtop@VistaGeneralCircus.net> wrote in message

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> On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 08:43:20 -0700, "Gazill Yanaire"

> <gazill@yanaire.com> wrote:

>

>>

>>"leap frog vista" <leapfrog@vizztal.com> wrote in message

>>news:48beafb5@newsgate.x-privat.org...

>>> We all know that Vista is crap. Well not all of us realise this, only

>>> those of us who have a brain...

>>

>>Your problem is you don't have the brains to run Vista.

>

> You don't need brains to run Vista. You and Frank are proof of that.

> You however do need brains to understand how badly flawed Vista is.

 

Actually you are proof the needing no brains to run anything. Vista has

issues but still works. You just don't know how To configure Vista to get

it to work! Typical user who blames everyone else for their shortcomings.

[Guest Gazill Yanaire]

Re: You're an idiot

 

Re: You're an idiot

 

 

"Ringmaster" <bigtop@VistaGeneralCircus.net> wrote in message

news:h2dtb417p8ssc5m8a5l5v84ut4b5qvtqj1@4ax.com...

> On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 08:43:20 -0700, "Gazill Yanaire"

> <gazill@yanaire.com> wrote:

>

>>

>>"leap frog vista" <leapfrog@vizztal.com> wrote in message

>>news:48beafb5@newsgate.x-privat.org...

>>> We all know that Vista is crap. Well not all of us realise this, only

>>> those of us who have a brain...

>>

>>Your problem is you don't have the brains to run Vista.

>

> You don't need brains to run Vista. You and Frank are proof of that.

> You however do need brains to understand how badly flawed Vista is.

 

By the way, I have SQL server, Office 07, Visual Studio, and Sony Vegas all

running on Vista and no problems.

[Guest Frank]

Re: You're an idiot

 

Re: You're an idiot

 

Ringmaster, Frank's Ass Licker wrote:

 

You don't need brains to run Vista.

 

So what is your excuse for not being able to properly install and

configure your one little version of Vista?

 

You and Frank are proof of that.

 

Proof that we're much smarter that a drunken lying, incompetent PIG like

you!

> You however do need brains to understand how badly flawed Vista is.

 

hehehe...still blaming your stupidity on MS huh?

Figures. You're a weak little PIG aren't you ringbastard!...LOL!

[Guest R. McCarty]

Re: capin' crunch gets his panties all in a bunch...again!...LOL!

 

Re: capin' crunch gets his panties all in a bunch...again!...LOL!

 

Explain how Windows 7 will be better. There is almost NO formal

information on features and changes that will be incorporated into it.

( *Beyond some Blog info on Boot Cycle times & PreFetching )

 

Every extended feature Vista has can be turned off. With less than

10 minutes effort you can tune back Vista to mirror XP's performance

on even marginal hardware compliant machines. I know this because

I've done it several times for customers.

 

 

"leap frog vista" <leapfrog@vizztal.com> wrote in message

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> Most people don't like vista, they get it only with new computersm when

> given a choice they prefer XP unless the computer is a very high end

> machine and can crunch the huge amount of crap data overhead vista has.

> Read my reply to spanky da moron, where I explain why windows7 will be

> better.

>

> "fb" <frank@noscm.org> wrote in message

> news:eQAQa6dDJHA.3268@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> #1 idiot moron loser, capin' crunch wrote:

>>

>> We all know that Vista is crap.

>>

>> ----------------------------------------

>> That is your personal opinion.

>> An opinion not shared by millions of Vista users.

>> Get a life.

>

[Guest John John (MVP)]

Re: ARTICLE> MICROSOFT: Learning from their STUPID VISTA MISTAKES!

 

leap frog vista wrote:

> MS, AT LAST realizes the many blunders it made with vista and is trying

> to correct them in Windows 7.

 

I can't wait until they do release Windows 7, perhaps then maybe you and

the other Vista trolls might finally STFU and disappear. Of course that

is unlikely because you will most likely find reasons to criticise

Windows 7 and we all know that blabbering trolls like you aren't happy

unless they have something to complain about.

 

> Note: I posted this on the XP newsgroup for the XP users to warn them to

> WAIT until windows 7 is out.

 

You posted this to the XP group because you have air in your cranial

cavity! It has nothing to do with XP and it is completely off topic,

nobody here wants to see your stupid posts, keep them on the Vista

groups where the other stupid Vista trolls are to be found...

[Guest Bob I]

Re: ARTICLE> MICROSOFT: Learning from their STUPID VISTA MISTAKES!

 

 

 

John John (MVP) wrote:

> leap frog vista wrote:

>

>> MS, AT LAST realizes the many blunders it made with vista and is

>> trying to correct them in Windows 7.

>

>

> I can't wait until they do release Windows 7, perhaps then maybe you and

> the other Vista trolls might finally STFU and disappear. Of course that

> is unlikely because you will most likely find reasons to criticise

> Windows 7 and we all know that blabbering trolls like you aren't happy

> unless they have something to complain about.

>

>

>> Note: I posted this on the XP newsgroup for the XP users to warn them

>> to WAIT until windows 7 is out.

>

>

> You posted this to the XP group because you have air in your cranial

> cavity! It has nothing to do with XP and it is completely off topic,

> nobody here wants to see your stupid posts, keep them on the Vista

> groups where the other stupid Vista trolls are to be found...

>

 

Nope, the trolls just change the name of the target, we went through

exactly the same thing from Windows 2000 to XP, and Windows 98 to XP

They are just losers with nothing better to do with their time.

[Guest leap frog vista]

Franks favorite childrens book

 

Franks favorite childrens book

 

http://www.boingboing.net/200809031128.jpg

 

He still reads It each night before he goes to bed.

 

priceless...

 

"Ringmaster" <bigtop@VistaGeneralCircus.net> wrote in message

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> On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 09:05:26 -0700, "Gazill Yanaire"

> <gazill@yanaire.com> wrote:

>

>>

>>"Ringmaster" <bigtop@VistaGeneralCircus.net> wrote in message

>>news:h2dtb417p8ssc5m8a5l5v84ut4b5qvtqj1@4ax.com...

>>> On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 08:43:20 -0700, "Gazill Yanaire"

>>> <gazill@yanaire.com> wrote:

>>>

>>>>

>>>>"leap frog vista" <leapfrog@vizztal.com> wrote in message

>>>>news:48beafb5@newsgate.x-privat.org...

>>>>> We all know that Vista is crap. Well not all of us realise this, only

>>>>> those of us who have a brain...

>>>>

>>>>Your problem is you don't have the brains to run Vista.

>>>

>>> You don't need brains to run Vista. You and Frank are proof of that.

>>> You however do need brains to understand how badly flawed Vista is.

>>

>>By the way, I have SQL server, Office 07, Visual Studio, and Sony Vegas

>>all

>>running on Vista and no problems.

>

> How many times must I remind a moron like you REPORTING Vista problems

> isn't the same as having Vista problems yourself?

>

> The main problem with idiots like you and Frank is you can't see the

> forest for the trees.

[Guest Mike Hall - MVP]

Re: ARTICLE> MICROSOFT: Learning from their STUPID VISTA MISTAKES!

 

"John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message

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> leap frog vista wrote:

>

>> MS, AT LAST realizes the many blunders it made with vista and is trying

>> to correct them in Windows 7.

>

> I can't wait until they do release Windows 7, perhaps then maybe you and

> the other Vista trolls might finally STFU and disappear. Of course that

> is unlikely because you will most likely find reasons to criticise Windows

> 7 and we all know that blabbering trolls like you aren't happy unless they

> have something to complain about.

>

>

>> Note: I posted this on the XP newsgroup for the XP users to warn them to

>> WAIT until windows 7 is out.

>

> You posted this to the XP group because you have air in your cranial

> cavity! It has nothing to do with XP and it is completely off topic,

> nobody here wants to see your stupid posts, keep them on the Vista groups

> where the other stupid Vista trolls are to be found...

>

 

 

John

 

They will pick on whatever is the latest release. Some of them practiced on

IE7 before landing on Vista..

 

 

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[Guest Frank]

Re: capin' crunch gets his panties all in a bunch...again!...LOL!

 

Re: capin' crunch gets his panties all in a bunch...again!...LOL!

 

leap frog vista wrote:

> You claim you were in the military yet you seem to not know much about

> large

> organizations.

 

WTF does that mean?

>

> If not managed extremely well information gets compartmentalized to such an

> extent where no one knows what the other person is working on.

 

Oh! You mean that girl in the next cubicle who keeps stealing your lunch

money?

>

> This is often used on PURPOSE in restricted areas of development so that no

> one will know whats going on, accept of course of the few that are behind

> the scenes.

 

Did they give you a phone and a desk yet at that help desk where you "work"?

>

> What has happened to MS is that they grew so much and did not have the

> proper management...

 

Oh? Which large corporation have you started and are currently running

that is similar to MS?

 

The only difference is that even the people jn charge

> had no idea what they were doing!

 

OH? So is that based on the fact that you can't get one little install

of Vista to run properly and so you think no one at MS knows what

they're talking about?

Fukk!!! That's not even good garage logic!

> In the end

> no one had full control over the OS... programmers working on small

> parts of

> the os, but no holistic overall view and guidance of what would come out.

 

Hummm...you know this because you work at MS, or is this a wild guess on

your part?

>

> The result is vista.

 

Vista is the very best OS available today.

 

I don't need to be a microsoft programmer to know the

> problems MS had when creating Vista.

 

You were on the inside? You're were involved in the alpha? You were

involved on the inside beta?

No, to all of the above.

 

All you need is insight and LOGIC, and

> the ability to observe.

 

Well, that leaves you out of the picture!

You should stick with XP and your "tweaking" as Vista is way beyond your

intellectual reach.

[Guest Frank]

Re: You're an idiot

 

Re: You're an idiot

 

#1 idiot moron loser wrote:

 

---------------------------------------

 

Are you really as fukkin dumb and stupid as you seem to be?

I mean really...you're a GD idiot!

[Guest Curt Christianson]

Re: ARTICLE> MICROSOFT: Learning from their STUPID VISTA MISTAKES!

 

Amen, and well put by all you gentlemen! Trolls and cockroaches will always

survive, no matter what...

 

--

Curt

 

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"Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message

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> "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message

> news:g9mgh6$j0i$1@aioe.org...

>> leap frog vista wrote:

>>

>>> MS, AT LAST realizes the many blunders it made with vista and is trying

>>> to correct them in Windows 7.

>>

>> I can't wait until they do release Windows 7, perhaps then maybe you and

>> the other Vista trolls might finally STFU and disappear. Of course that

>> is unlikely because you will most likely find reasons to criticise

>> Windows 7 and we all know that blabbering trolls like you aren't happy

>> unless they have something to complain about.

>>

>>

>>> Note: I posted this on the XP newsgroup for the XP users to warn them to

>>> WAIT until windows 7 is out.

>>

>> You posted this to the XP group because you have air in your cranial

>> cavity! It has nothing to do with XP and it is completely off topic,

>> nobody here wants to see your stupid posts, keep them on the Vista groups

>> where the other stupid Vista trolls are to be found...

>>

>

>

> John

>

> They will pick on whatever is the latest release. Some of them practiced

> on IE7 before landing on Vista..

>

>

> --

> Mike Hall - MVP

> How to construct a good post..

> http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm

> How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..

> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc

> Mike's Window - My Blog..

> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

>

>

>

>

[Guest Alec S.]

Re: ARTICLE> MICROSOFT: Learning from their STUPID VISTA MISTAKES!

 

"Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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>

> Nope, the trolls just change the name of the target, we went through

> exactly the same thing from Windows 2000 to XP, and Windows 98 to XP

> They are just losers with nothing better to do with their time.

 

What, no ME? :P

 

 

Has anyone started complaining about “Mojave” yet? That would be amusing. I know

they’re complaining about the experiment itself, but I would be surprised if

nobody complained about the performance/experience too. (Apparently people still

think it’s cool to go against the norm just because—thanks a lot Brando and

Dean!)

 

--

Alec S.

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[Guest Bob I]

Re: ARTICLE> MICROSOFT: Learning from their STUPID VISTA MISTAKES!

 

 

 

Alec S. wrote:

> "Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> news:udMd5leDJHA.1008@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>

>>Nope, the trolls just change the name of the target, we went through

>>exactly the same thing from Windows 2000 to XP, and Windows 98 to XP

>>They are just losers with nothing better to do with their time.

>

>

> What, no ME? :P

>

>

> Has anyone started complaining about “Mojave” yet? That would be amusing. I know

> they’re complaining about the experiment itself, but I would be surprised if

> nobody complained about the performance/experience too. (Apparently people still

> think it’s cool to go against the norm just because—thanks a lot Brando and

> Dean!)

>

 

Sorry, I just forgot ME.

[Guest Curt Christianson]

Re: ARTICLE> MICROSOFT: Learning from their STUPID VISTA MISTAKES!

 

I actually had more fun with WFW 3.11 than I did with the nightmare called

"Millennium Edition". 'Course then again, they never mentioned which

millennium.

 

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"Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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Alec S. wrote:

> "Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> news:udMd5leDJHA.1008@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>

>>Nope, the trolls just change the name of the target, we went through

>>exactly the same thing from Windows 2000 to XP, and Windows 98 to XP

>>They are just losers with nothing better to do with their time.

>

>

> What, no ME? :P

>

>

> Has anyone started complaining about “Mojave” yet? That would be amusing.

> I know

> they’re complaining about the experiment itself, but I would be surprised

> if

> nobody complained about the performance/experience too. (Apparently people

> still

> think it’s cool to go against the norm just because—thanks a lot Brando

> and

> Dean!)

>

 

Sorry, I just forgot ME.