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Guest letterman@invalid.com
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Re: Deleting Files causes Freezup

 

On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:24:31 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote:

>Rick Chauvin wrote:

>| "Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message

>| news:39cgc4hjrfc32gqf68srm3aunbmb7amqp8@4ax.com

>|> On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 19:59:37 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> put

>|> finger to keyboard and composed:

>|>

>|>>IE6, for some, has a problem with Copy/Delete of very large files or

>|>>folders full of folders & files. Here is the fix others have

>|>>discovered for that. Basically, move the IE6 versions of

>|>>BrowseLC.dll & BrowseUI.dll from "C:Windows\System\" to the folder

>|>>that contains IE6 (IEXPLORE.EXE), which likely is "C:\Program

>|>>Files\Internet Explorer\". Then, move the IE5.5 versions of those

>|>>DLL's into "C:Windows\System\". Doing it that way allows IE6 to use

>|>>its .dll's-- but Explorer & all else (if anything) will use the

>|>>IE5.5 .dll's.

>|>

>|> I can't understand why, but after doing this, my Explorer settings

>|> reverted to View as Web Page and with Large Icons. My previous

>|> settings were to not View as Web Page and to show Details. I would

>|> have thought these settings were stored in the registry.

>|

>| It will most times revert to View as Web Page, etc, like that when you

>| change those dll's around.

>|

>| Anyway, I think the OP (letterman) got his situation solved?

>| ..allbeit the long way around.

>|

>| I did have a write up about this a while ago, and even give the dll's

>| needed; as Glen said though, this is old stuff and talked about more

>| times than we wanted to remember. I never bothered to take the

>| webpage down though so it's still active.

>|

>| http://rdchauvin.com/W98xIE6xBug.htm

>

>It's only 7:19 PM, Chauvin-- your post shows 7:48!

>

>For the others reading: IIRC, to run the IE Repair tool or an

>over-install of IE, one must switch those .dll's back first.

>

>| Rick

 

Yes, I believe that is true. I'd just keep a copy of the replacement

DLLs in a separate folder and copy them back. Better yet, ZIP them.

 

I wont have that problem, I am not going to reinstall IE6. IE5.5 is

fine, since I rarely ever use IE anyhow.

Guest letterman@invalid.com
Posted

Re: Deleting Files causes Freezup

 

On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:16:38 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote:

>Glad to have been useful. But I don't know much more about it. And don't

>blame me if Terhune should show up & hit you over the head with a fat

>.dll for thinking of an over-install of Windows & the VCM!

 

Be thankful. You can killfile him online. Could you imagine having

to live with that bitter rude grump............

I bet he spends his whole life reinstalling Windows.....

Posted

Re: Deleting Files causes Freezup

 

Chris Quirke, mvp has posted here in the past. He is probably too busy to

post right now.

 

"FromTheRafters" wrote:

>

> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:E5B807E0-0EA9-40AE-9623-1FD6FAD53957@microsoft.com...

> > Please Google Chris Quirke who is a most valuable Microsoft Professional

> > and

> > you will see he has the correct information.

>

> He also has opinions - as do we all.

>

> > His blog is most informative

>

> I actually followed you to this newsgroup because you

> led me to believe Chris posted here. I missed his sense

> of humor - and the depth and width of his knowledge.

>

> >and there is no true MS-DOS, maintenance operating system with the business

> > source code line of Microsoft products which are NT, 2000, XP and Vista

> > and

> > there is with the 9x source code line of products although it is limited

> > in

> > Windows ME. {Note: I have even confirmed this with Microsoft so it is a

> > fact.}

>

> Okay - - did they happen to mention what the limitations

> are in the Vista replacement for the recovery console?

>

> > "FromTheRafters" wrote:

> >

> >>

> >> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> >> news:366C6894-9050-4EE1-8D63-B9B646831819@microsoft.com...

> >>

> >> > I do like MS-DOS that 98 Second Edition has as its maintenance

> >> > operating

> >> > system because it is fun to work in a true text based environment and

> >> > not

> >> > just

> >> > a command.com prompt text based interface.

> >>

> >> Command.com *is* the MS-DOS user interface, especially

> >> since they dropped the GUI Dosshell.exe.

> >>

> >>

> >>

>

>

>

Guest Franc Zabkar
Posted

Re: Deleting Files causes Freezup

 

On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:03:26 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> put

finger to keyboard and composed:

>Franc Zabkar wrote:

>| On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 19:59:37 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> put

>| finger to keyboard and composed:

>|

>|>IE6, for some, has a problem with Copy/Delete of very large files or

>|>folders full of folders & files. Here is the fix others have

>|>discovered for that. Basically, move the IE6 versions of BrowseLC.dll

>|>& BrowseUI.dll from "C:Windows\System\" to the folder that contains

>|>IE6 (IEXPLORE.EXE), which likely is "C:\Program Files\Internet

>|>Explorer\". Then, move the IE5.5 versions of those DLL's into

>|>"C:Windows\System\". Doing it that way allows IE6 to use its .dll's--

>|>but Explorer & all else (if anything) will use the IE5.5 .dll's.

>|

>| I can't understand why, but after doing this, my Explorer settings

>| reverted to View as Web Page and with Large Icons. My previous

>| settings were to not View as Web Page and to show Details. I would

>| have thought these settings were stored in the registry.

>

>I don't recall that happening when I tested it a while ago. As long as

>you could easily get the settings back to normal, it probably isn't

>worth an intensive investigation; otherwise, I'd mess with those

>settings while tracking with InCtrl5 to see what happens.

 

I recovered my old settings without too much hassle.

>The menu in

>Explorer could end up looking a tad different is the only anomaly I

>recall. I trust the main issue was solved for you & there was no

>detectable serious side effect (or you'd have said so & possibly have

>assasinated me or Bill of Co. &/or Chauvin). I should mention this

>switch of files should only be done after all updates at Windows Update

>have been taken; otherwise, the LC &/or UI file could get replaced

>again.

 

I copied and deleted several GB of files without the dreaded slowdown,

so your fix appears to have worked. Thanks.

 

- Franc Zabkar

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Guest Franc Zabkar
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On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:55:29 -0500, letterman@invalid.com put finger

to keyboard and composed:

>This makes me wonder if ANYONE hasever used and enjoyed that "View as

>Web page" feature in Explorer? I hated it the first time I saw it,

>and still do. It reminds me of XP, and I find XP absolutely

>repulsive.

>I have never known one person that uses that View as Web Page setting.

>I wish it could be entirely removed.

 

I haven't tried it myself, but I believe you can "de-webify" Win98SE

with 98lite:

http://www.litepc.com/98lite.html

 

I'd only experiment with a fresh install, though, not an over-install.

I'd also expect the unexpected when you apply updates.

 

- Franc Zabkar

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Guest letterman@invalid.com
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Re: Deleting Files causes Freezup

 

On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:05:51 +1000, Franc Zabkar

<fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote:

>On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:03:26 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> put

>finger to keyboard and composed:

>

>>Franc Zabkar wrote:

>>| On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 19:59:37 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> put

>>| finger to keyboard and composed:

>>|

>>|>IE6, for some, has a problem with Copy/Delete of very large files or

>>|>folders full of folders & files. Here is the fix others have

>>|>discovered for that. Basically, move the IE6 versions of BrowseLC.dll

>>|>& BrowseUI.dll from "C:Windows\System\" to the folder that contains

>>|>IE6 (IEXPLORE.EXE), which likely is "C:\Program Files\Internet

>>|>Explorer\". Then, move the IE5.5 versions of those DLL's into

>>|>"C:Windows\System\". Doing it that way allows IE6 to use its .dll's--

>>|>but Explorer & all else (if anything) will use the IE5.5 .dll's.

>>|

>>| I can't understand why, but after doing this, my Explorer settings

>>| reverted to View as Web Page and with Large Icons. My previous

>>| settings were to not View as Web Page and to show Details. I would

>>| have thought these settings were stored in the registry.

>>

>>I don't recall that happening when I tested it a while ago. As long as

>>you could easily get the settings back to normal, it probably isn't

>>worth an intensive investigation; otherwise, I'd mess with those

>>settings while tracking with InCtrl5 to see what happens.

>

>I recovered my old settings without too much hassle.

>

>>The menu in

>>Explorer could end up looking a tad different is the only anomaly I

>>recall. I trust the main issue was solved for you & there was no

>>detectable serious side effect (or you'd have said so & possibly have

>>assasinated me or Bill of Co. &/or Chauvin). I should mention this

>>switch of files should only be done after all updates at Windows Update

>>have been taken; otherwise, the LC &/or UI file could get replaced

>>again.

>

>I copied and deleted several GB of files without the dreaded slowdown,

>so your fix appears to have worked. Thanks.

>

>- Franc Zabkar

 

I just thought of something. What if someone installs a different

program as a file manager. Will the computer still freeze after a

major copy or delete? I just downloaded an old file manager called

Servant Salamander (freeware) from http://vorvan.sh.cvut.cz/salamander

I just installed it, but I kind of like it so far. I guess I can only

give this a try on my screwed up copy of win98, and see what happens.

Posted

Re: Deleting Files causes Freezup

 

Windows 98 Second Edition is lite and so what is the point of lightening it

up more?

 

"Franc Zabkar" wrote:

> On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:55:29 -0500, letterman@invalid.com put finger

> to keyboard and composed:

>

> >This makes me wonder if ANYONE hasever used and enjoyed that "View as

> >Web page" feature in Explorer? I hated it the first time I saw it,

> >and still do. It reminds me of XP, and I find XP absolutely

> >repulsive.

> >I have never known one person that uses that View as Web Page setting.

> >I wish it could be entirely removed.

>

> I haven't tried it myself, but I believe you can "de-webify" Win98SE

> with 98lite:

> http://www.litepc.com/98lite.html

>

> I'd only experiment with a fresh install, though, not an over-install.

> I'd also expect the unexpected when you apply updates.

>

> - Franc Zabkar

> --

> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

>

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letterman@invalid.com wrote:

> This makes me wonder if ANYONE hasever used and enjoyed that "View as

> Web page" feature in Explorer? I hated it the first time I saw it,

> and still do. It reminds me of XP, and I find XP absolutely

> repulsive.

 

XP can look just like Win98. Mine does.

 

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Guest Rick Chauvin
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Re: Deleting Files causes Freezup

 

 

 

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

news:uKyylx5EJHA.5224@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl

[....]

> It's only 7:19 PM, Chauvin-- your post shows 7:48!

 

? My computer tray clock is showing me it's within seconds of my Atomic

Clock on the wall, so I'm not sure what you're seeing with those odd #

minutes.

 

Although I've had glimpses on other forum posts on the past, that my ISP's

server in some cases ends up posting a 1 hour difference depending on where

I'm posting too; however when I post here and when the post shows up the

time it says it's posted as is accurate to my clock.

 

Rick

>

> --

> Thanks or Good Luck,

> There may be humor in this post, and,

> Naturally, you will not sue,

> Should things get worse after this,

> PCR

> pcrrcp@netzero.net

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My XP Professional does too. BTW, I wanted to switch from Internet Explorer

7 to IE 6 for XP Pro. and even with Microsoft's help, I now have *.dll with

application failed. Mozilla Firefox 2.0.0.16 on XP Professional SP3 is now

gone and removed at Microsoft's suggestion because I wanted to attend their

Live Meeting and Microsoft told me it could only be done within Internet

Explorer and so XP Professional web browsers are now all toast. The rest of

the operating system still works normally and I will eventually do a full

backup and clean install. I will not go with Internet Explorer 7 again

because it does not work as well as Internet Explorer 6 fully updated. I am

glad IE 5.5 works well for the poster and on my 98 SE side, it works well

fully updated with one MS-DOS error that I am still investigating but I will

post about that another time when I actually have time to work on it. I know

I am hijacking this post but I figured it is okay since the issue has been

resolved and all the people are posting here in this topic that I want to see

this post. Have a great September 11, 2001 and remember it has already been

7 years which I can hardly believe because the event is still so fresh in my

mind but enough of that and God Bless Everyone especially Canada, Ireland,

USA, Africa, New Zealand, Australia, England, France, Spain, Scotland,

Belgium, Germany and yes even Russia. <smile>

 

"dadiOH" wrote:

> letterman@invalid.com wrote:

> > This makes me wonder if ANYONE hasever used and enjoyed that "View as

> > Web page" feature in Explorer? I hated it the first time I saw it,

> > and still do. It reminds me of XP, and I find XP absolutely

> > repulsive.

>

> XP can look just like Win98. Mine does.

>

> --

>

> dadiOH

> ____________________________

>

> dadiOH's dandies v3.06...

> ....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from

> LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.

> Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico

>

>

>

>

Guest Franc Zabkar
Posted

Re: Deleting Files causes Freezup

 

On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 04:50:01 -0700, Dan

<Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> put finger to keyboard and composed:

>Windows 98 Second Edition is lite and so what is the point of lightening it

>up more?

 

http://www.litepc.com/swap.html

 

"The CHUBBY desktop is 100% Windows98, and is the ideal speed boost

for people who do not own Windows95, or that simply must have the

Windows98 shell enhancements. The CHUBBY desktop is the same Explorer

desktop that is installed with Windows98, but the View as a Web Page

and Active Desktop features have been totally removed to breath some

life back into Explorer. You can turn these features off normally, but

Explorer is still doing a lot of redundant work in the background.

98lite removes the features completely, including all the associated

registry baggage to maximise the performance of your desktop

environment."

 

98lite is claimed to "eliminate the performance robbing waste of

resources from features you don't use". If this means that my

ResourceMeter won't go into the red as often as it does now, then

maybe 98lite is worth a look.

 

- Franc Zabkar

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Thanks, my customized 98 Second Edition certainly does not need lite. I

agree with Gary S. Terhune that it is essential to be edit to manually edit

the registry to remove old entries and also it is great because it is a

complete clean install on a custom build with a Falcon Northwest case because

it was originally a Falcon Nortwest with Windows 98 back in about the year

2000. Now with 2 hard drives and 98 Second Edition as the primary operating

system it is awesome and the nice thing is 98 SE does not go down for me at

least like XP Professional does or like even Vista Home Premium can. I will

indeed have to eventually do a clean install of XP Professional but wonder

whether I should have the file system for XP Pro. in Fat32 rather than NTFS

because despite the security of NTFS it does not seem to have the stability

of the Fat32 file system at least in my testing of computers and my

observations. I am sure everyone will be outraged to hear my opinion about

this and strongly disagree but that is why we all post here to share our

ideas and opinions and allow others to correct us despite when it hurts.

 

"Franc Zabkar" wrote:

> On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 04:50:01 -0700, Dan

> <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> put finger to keyboard and composed:

>

> >Windows 98 Second Edition is lite and so what is the point of lightening it

> >up more?

>

> http://www.litepc.com/swap.html

>

> "The CHUBBY desktop is 100% Windows98, and is the ideal speed boost

> for people who do not own Windows95, or that simply must have the

> Windows98 shell enhancements. The CHUBBY desktop is the same Explorer

> desktop that is installed with Windows98, but the View as a Web Page

> and Active Desktop features have been totally removed to breath some

> life back into Explorer. You can turn these features off normally, but

> Explorer is still doing a lot of redundant work in the background.

> 98lite removes the features completely, including all the associated

> registry baggage to maximise the performance of your desktop

> environment."

>

> 98lite is claimed to "eliminate the performance robbing waste of

> resources from features you don't use". If this means that my

> ResourceMeter won't go into the red as often as it does now, then

> maybe 98lite is worth a look.

>

> - Franc Zabkar

> --

> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

>

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letterman@invalid.com wrote:

| On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:16:38 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote:

|

|>Glad to have been useful. But I don't know much more about it. And

|>don't blame me if Terhune should show up & hit you over the head with

|>a fat .dll for thinking of an over-install of Windows & the VCM!

|

| Be thankful. You can killfile him online. Could you imagine having

| to live with that bitter rude grump............

| I bet he spends his whole life reinstalling Windows.....

 

That isn't his fault! He lives in an earthquake zone where windows break

easily!

 

 

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Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

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pcrrcp@netzero.net

Posted

Re: Deleting Files causes Freezup

 

Franc Zabkar wrote:

| On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:03:26 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> put

| finger to keyboard and composed:

|

|>Franc Zabkar wrote:

|>| On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 19:59:37 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> put

|>| finger to keyboard and composed:

|>|

|>|>IE6, for some, has a problem with Copy/Delete of very large files or

|>|>folders full of folders & files. Here is the fix others have

|>|>discovered for that. Basically, move the IE6 versions of

|>|>BrowseLC.dll & BrowseUI.dll from "C:Windows\System\" to the folder

|>|>that contains IE6 (IEXPLORE.EXE), which likely is "C:\Program

|>|>Files\Internet Explorer\". Then, move the IE5.5 versions of those

|>|>DLL's into "C:Windows\System\". Doing it that way allows IE6 to use

|>|>its .dll's-- but Explorer & all else (if anything) will use the

|>|>IE5.5 .dll's.

|>|

|>| I can't understand why, but after doing this, my Explorer settings

|>| reverted to View as Web Page and with Large Icons. My previous

|>| settings were to not View as Web Page and to show Details. I would

|>| have thought these settings were stored in the registry.

|>

|>I don't recall that happening when I tested it a while ago. As long as

|>you could easily get the settings back to normal, it probably isn't

|>worth an intensive investigation; otherwise, I'd mess with those

|>settings while tracking with InCtrl5 to see what happens.

|

| I recovered my old settings without too much hassle.

 

Very good. I see Chauvin has confirmed the phenomenon. I guess I was too

busy testing to notice it.

 

|>The menu in

|>Explorer could end up looking a tad different is the only anomaly I

|>recall. I trust the main issue was solved for you & there was no

|>detectable serious side effect (or you'd have said so & possibly have

|>assasinated me or Bill of Co. &/or Chauvin). I should mention this

|>switch of files should only be done after all updates at Windows

|>Update have been taken; otherwise, the LC &/or UI file could get

|>replaced again.

|

| I copied and deleted several GB of files without the dreaded slowdown,

| so your fix appears to have worked. Thanks.

 

You are welcome. Glad to have been helpful.

 

| - Franc Zabkar

| --

| Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

 

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There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

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letterman@invalid.com wrote:

| On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:05:51 +1000, Franc Zabkar

| <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote:

|

|>On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:03:26 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> put

|>finger to keyboard and composed:

|>

|>>Franc Zabkar wrote:

|>>| On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 19:59:37 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> put

|>>| finger to keyboard and composed:

|>>|

|>>|>IE6, for some, has a problem with Copy/Delete of very large files

|>>|>or folders full of folders & files. Here is the fix others have

|>>|>discovered for that. Basically, move the IE6 versions of

|>>|>BrowseLC.dll & BrowseUI.dll from "C:Windows\System\" to the folder

|>>|>that contains IE6 (IEXPLORE.EXE), which likely is "C:\Program

|>>|>Files\Internet Explorer\". Then, move the IE5.5 versions of those

|>>|>DLL's into "C:Windows\System\". Doing it that way allows IE6 to

|>>|>use its .dll's-- but Explorer & all else (if anything) will use

|>>|>the IE5.5 .dll's.

|>>|

|>>| I can't understand why, but after doing this, my Explorer settings

|>>| reverted to View as Web Page and with Large Icons. My previous

|>>| settings were to not View as Web Page and to show Details. I would

|>>| have thought these settings were stored in the registry.

|>>

|>>I don't recall that happening when I tested it a while ago. As long

|>>as you could easily get the settings back to normal, it probably

|>>isn't worth an intensive investigation; otherwise, I'd mess with

|>>those settings while tracking with InCtrl5 to see what happens.

|>

|>I recovered my old settings without too much hassle.

|>

|>>The menu in

|>>Explorer could end up looking a tad different is the only anomaly I

|>>recall. I trust the main issue was solved for you & there was no

|>>detectable serious side effect (or you'd have said so & possibly have

|>>assasinated me or Bill of Co. &/or Chauvin). I should mention this

|>>switch of files should only be done after all updates at Windows

|>>Update have been taken; otherwise, the LC &/or UI file could get

|>>replaced again.

|>

|>I copied and deleted several GB of files without the dreaded slowdown,

|>so your fix appears to have worked. Thanks.

|>

|>- Franc Zabkar

|

| I just thought of something. What if someone installs a different

| program as a file manager. Will the computer still freeze after a

| major copy or delete? I just downloaded an old file manager called

| Servant Salamander (freeware) from http://vorvan.sh.cvut.cz/salamander

| I just installed it, but I kind of like it so far. I guess I can only

| give this a try on my screwed up copy of win98, and see what happens.

 

3rd-party products have a chance to circumvent the problem. I know that

HDValet can do the deletes just fine-- so long as the option to use the

Recycle Bin is not used...!...

 

http://www.pcmag.com/ 's HDValet is configurable & installs with

pre-configured suggestions. It can delete to the Recycle Bin, to a

holding folder of its own or to oblivion. By design, it will not

delete empty folders, after the files are gone. Also, it will not delete

files that are "in use". It isn't pre-configured to delete its own log

& doesn't over-write it; so, occasionally, do go in and trim it.

 

 

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Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

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letterman@invalid.com wrote:

| On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:24:31 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote:

|

|>Rick Chauvin wrote:

|>| "Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message

|>| news:39cgc4hjrfc32gqf68srm3aunbmb7amqp8@4ax.com

|>|> On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 19:59:37 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> put

|>|> finger to keyboard and composed:

|>|>

|>|>>IE6, for some, has a problem with Copy/Delete of very large files

|>|>>or folders full of folders & files. Here is the fix others have

|>|>>discovered for that. Basically, move the IE6 versions of

|>|>>BrowseLC.dll & BrowseUI.dll from "C:Windows\System\" to the folder

|>|>>that contains IE6 (IEXPLORE.EXE), which likely is "C:\Program

|>|>>Files\Internet Explorer\". Then, move the IE5.5 versions of those

|>|>>DLL's into "C:Windows\System\". Doing it that way allows IE6 to use

|>|>>its .dll's-- but Explorer & all else (if anything) will use the

|>|>>IE5.5 .dll's.

|>|>

|>|> I can't understand why, but after doing this, my Explorer settings

|>|> reverted to View as Web Page and with Large Icons. My previous

|>|> settings were to not View as Web Page and to show Details. I would

|>|> have thought these settings were stored in the registry.

|>|

|>| It will most times revert to View as Web Page, etc, like that when

|>| you change those dll's around.

|>|

|>| Anyway, I think the OP (letterman) got his situation solved?

|>| ..allbeit the long way around.

|>|

|>| I did have a write up about this a while ago, and even give the

|>| dll's needed; as Glen said though, this is old stuff and talked

|>| about more times than we wanted to remember. I never bothered to

|>| take the webpage down though so it's still active.

|>|

|>| http://rdchauvin.com/W98xIE6xBug.htm

|>

|>It's only 7:19 PM, Chauvin-- your post shows 7:48!

|>

|>For the others reading: IIRC, to run the IE Repair tool or an

|>over-install of IE, one must switch those .dll's back first.

|>

|>| Rick

|

| Yes, I believe that is true. I'd just keep a copy of the replacement

| DLLs in a separate folder and copy them back. Better yet, ZIP them.

|

| I wont have that problem, I am not going to reinstall IE6. IE5.5 is

| fine, since I rarely ever use IE anyhow.

 

The use of IE5.5 may give up certain protections & improvements of IE6,

but IE6 isn't getting any new ones, anyhow.

 

Yes, one should keep the two .dll's handy for a switch back to get a new

Windows Update or to run the IE Repair Tool. Chauvin actually wrote an

app to do that & also should be thanked for that info. But MS has

stopped providing updates to IE6 for Win98. Also, it is exceedingly rare

one need to run the IE Repair tool (or that it would fix anything if

run, even).

 

 

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

Posted

Re: Deleting Files causes Freezup

 

Rick Chauvin wrote:

| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

| news:uKyylx5EJHA.5224@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl

| [....]

|

|> It's only 7:19 PM, Chauvin-- your post shows 7:48!

|

| ? My computer tray clock is showing me it's within seconds of my

| Atomic Clock on the wall, so I'm not sure what you're seeing with

| those odd # minutes.

 

Well, I ran NisTime & stand by my observation!

 

| Although I've had glimpses on other forum posts on the past, that my

| ISP's server in some cases ends up posting a 1 hour difference

| depending on where I'm posting too; however when I post here and when

| the post shows up the time it says it's posted as is accurate to my

| clock.

 

Do you see 7:48 PM for that post & 7:24 PM for my response to it? Are

you using the MS server to post & read the posts? The new season of

Heroes hasn't even begun-- so, I can't accuse you of time travel!

 

| Rick

|

|>

|> --

|> Thanks or Good Luck,

|> There may be humor in this post, and,

|> Naturally, you will not sue,

|> Should things get worse after this,

|> PCR

|> pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

Guest Rick Chauvin
Posted

Re: Deleting Files causes Freezup

 

 

 

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

news:eR5LrzGFJHA.4304@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl

> Rick Chauvin wrote:

>| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

>| news:uKyylx5EJHA.5224@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl

>| [....]

>|

>|> It's only 7:19 PM, Chauvin-- your post shows 7:48!

>|

>| ? My computer tray clock is showing me it's within seconds of my

>| Atomic Clock on the wall, so I'm not sure what you're seeing with

>| those odd # minutes.

>

> Well, I ran NisTime & stand by my observation!

>

>| Although I've had glimpses on other forum posts on the past, that my

>| ISP's server in some cases ends up posting a 1 hour difference

>| depending on where I'm posting too; however when I post here and when

>| the post shows up the time it says it's posted as is accurate to my

>| clock.

>

> Do you see 7:48 PM for that post & 7:24 PM for my response to it? Are

> you using the MS server to post & read the posts? The new season of

 

Yes I post directly to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion, and when my

posts show up I can see the time stamp is current and accurate.

> Heroes hasn't even begun-- so, I can't accuse you of time travel!

 

Very soon though :)

The few series I indulge in are already auto set to record from last

seasons settings, I can see them showing up now on the to do list (using

DTV) and in 1080i HiDef as well.

 

Rick

 

>

>| Rick

>|

>|>

>|> --

>|> Thanks or Good Luck,

>|> There may be humor in this post, and,

>|> Naturally, you will not sue,

>|> Should things get worse after this,

>|> PCR

>|> pcrrcp@netzero.net

>

> --

> Thanks or Good Luck,

> There may be humor in this post, and,

> Naturally, you will not sue,

> Should things get worse after this,

> PCR

> pcrrcp@netzero.net

Guest letterman@invalid.com
Posted

Re: Deleting Files causes Freezup

 

On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:45:39 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote:

>letterman@invalid.com wrote:

>| On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:16:38 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote:

>|

>|>Glad to have been useful. But I don't know much more about it. And

>|>don't blame me if Terhune should show up & hit you over the head with

>|>a fat .dll for thinking of an over-install of Windows & the VCM!

>|

>| Be thankful. You can killfile him online. Could you imagine having

>| to live with that bitter rude grump............

>| I bet he spends his whole life reinstalling Windows.....

>

>That isn't his fault! He lives in an earthquake zone where windows break

>easily!

 

[ROTFL]

Posted

Re: Deleting Files causes Freezup

 

letterman@invalid.com wrote:

| On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:45:39 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote:

|

|>letterman@invalid.com wrote:

|>| On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:16:38 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net>

|>| wrote:

|>|

|>|>Glad to have been useful. But I don't know much more about it. And

|>|>don't blame me if Terhune should show up & hit you over the head

|>|>with a fat .dll for thinking of an over-install of Windows & the

|>|>VCM!

|>|

|>| Be thankful. You can killfile him online. Could you imagine having

|>| to live with that bitter rude grump............

|>| I bet he spends his whole life reinstalling Windows.....

|>

|>That isn't his fault! He lives in an earthquake zone where windows

|>break easily!

|

| [ROTFL]

 

Hmm... [ROTFL].

 

 

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

Posted

Re: Deleting Files causes Freezup

 

Rick Chauvin wrote:

| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

| news:eR5LrzGFJHA.4304@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl

|> Rick Chauvin wrote:

|>| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

|>| news:uKyylx5EJHA.5224@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl

|>| [....]

|>|

|>|> It's only 7:19 PM, Chauvin-- your post shows 7:48!

|>|

|>| ? My computer tray clock is showing me it's within seconds of my

|>| Atomic Clock on the wall, so I'm not sure what you're seeing with

|>| those odd # minutes.

|>

|> Well, I ran NisTime & stand by my observation!

|>

|>| Although I've had glimpses on other forum posts on the past, that my

|>| ISP's server in some cases ends up posting a 1 hour difference

|>| depending on where I'm posting too; however when I post here and

|>| when the post shows up the time it says it's posted as is accurate

|>| to my clock.

|>

|> Do you see 7:48 PM for that post & 7:24 PM for my response to it? Are

|> you using the MS server to post & read the posts? The new season of

|

| Yes I post directly to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion, and

| when my posts show up I can see the time stamp is current and

| accurate.

 

Very strange, then. Looking at the Properties of our posts, I see...

 

Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:48:30 -0500 << Yours

Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:24:31 -0400 << My response

 

....But I am in...

 

(GMT-05:00) Eastern Time (US & Canada)

 

....in Date/Time Properties. Maybe something is wrong on my end!?! I

guess I'll have to look over that zone change thing I did so long ago!

Can I have undone it somehow? Now I have to remember what that was all

about-- sheesh! Are you on a Win98? Does your Registry key look like

this...?...

 

REGEDIT4

 

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Time

Zones\Eastern]

"Display"="(GMT-05:00) Eastern Time (US & Canada)"

"Dlt"="Eastern Daylight Time"

"Std"="Eastern Standard Time"

"MapID"="38,39"

"TZI"=hex:2c,01,00,00,00,00,00,00,c4,ff,ff,ff,00,00,0b,00,00,00,01,00,02

,00,00,\

00,00,00,00,00,00,00,03,00,00,00,02,00,02,00,00,00,00,00,00,00

 

I'm thinking my post's Properties could be showing -04:00 because we are

in the "daylight savings" period or visa versa. What do you think?

 

|> Heroes hasn't even begun-- so, I can't accuse you of time travel!

|

| Very soon though :)

| The few series I indulge in are already auto set to record from last

| seasons settings, I can see them showing up now on the to do list

| (using DTV) and in 1080i HiDef as well.

 

I have that too now. I was surprised I could pick up HDTV over the air

with my Vizio VW37L TV & a Philips Mant510 indoor antenna. And it's

working fine again after a spell of lost DTV channels!

 

| Rick

|

|

|>

|>| Rick

|>|

|>|>

|>|> --

|>|> Thanks or Good Luck,

|>|> There may be humor in this post, and,

|>|> Naturally, you will not sue,

|>|> Should things get worse after this,

|>|> PCR

|>|> pcrrcp@netzero.net

|>

|> --

|> Thanks or Good Luck,

|> There may be humor in this post, and,

|> Naturally, you will not sue,

|> Should things get worse after this,

|> PCR

|> pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

Guest Gary S. Terhune
Posted

Re: Deleting Files causes Freezup

 

Just goes to show what a real idiot you are.

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://grystmill.com

 

<letterman@invalid.com> wrote in message

news:2n2hc4t21n5rvhhvnjo65j2mgvdmr4cluq@4ax.com...

> On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:16:38 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote:

>

>>Glad to have been useful. But I don't know much more about it. And don't

>>blame me if Terhune should show up & hit you over the head with a fat

>>.dll for thinking of an over-install of Windows & the VCM!

>

> Be thankful. You can killfile him online. Could you imagine having

> to live with that bitter rude grump............

> I bet he spends his whole life reinstalling Windows.....

Guest Paul Montgomery
Posted

Re: Deleting Files causes Freezup

 

On Sep 19, 2:34 pm, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:

> Just goes to show what a real idiot you are.

 

You been on vacation? Had to do a Google AGS to find you!

 

It's been kinda dull over in the Vista groups while you've been gone ;-

>

Guest Gary S. Terhune
Posted

Re: Deleting Files causes Freezup

 

Took a break for some medical treatment that couldn't be done in-house. Had

to travel to the other end of the River where the water tastes like blech! I

don't own a working laptop, and there you have it.

 

Might be a while getting back into full swing, but you never know when I

might decide it's show time, eh?(Wow! Some Canadian has taken over my

tongue!) Am I especially needed over there?

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://grystmill.com

 

"Paul Montgomery" <i.m.nonnymous@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:98d3af60-5982-4284-97ac-c3656152dc22@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...

On Sep 19, 2:34 pm, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:

> Just goes to show what a real idiot you are.

 

You been on vacation? Had to do a Google AGS to find you!

 

It's been kinda dull over in the Vista groups while you've been gone ;-

>

Posted

Re: Deleting Files causes Freezup

 

letterman@invalid.com wrote:

> Franc Zabkar wrote:

>

>> "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote:

>>

>>> IE6, for some, has a problem with Copy/Delete of very large files or

>>> folders full of folders & files. Here is the fix others have discovered

>>> for that. Basically, move the IE6 versions of BrowseLC.dll &

>>> BrowseUI.dll from "C:Windows\System\" to the folder that contains IE6

>>> (IEXPLORE.EXE), which likely is "C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\".

>>> Then, move the IE5.5 versions of those DLL's into "C:Windows\System\".

>>> Doing it that way allows IE6 to use its .dll's-- but Explorer & all else

>>> (if anything) will use the IE5.5 .dll's.

>>

>>

>> I can't understand why, but after doing this, my Explorer settings

>> reverted to View as Web Page and with Large Icons. My previous

>> settings were to not View as Web Page and to show Details. I would

>> have thought these settings were stored in the registry.

>>

>

> This makes me wonder if ANYONE hasever used and enjoyed that "View as

> Web page" feature in Explorer? I hated it the first time I saw it,

> and still do. It reminds me of XP, and I find XP absolutely

> repulsive.

> I have never known one person that uses that View as Web Page setting.

> I wish it could be entirely removed.

 

 

Try this. (in both Win98xE and WinXP)

 

--------------------------- Cut Here ---------------------------

REGEDIT4

 

[HKey_Current_User\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]

"NoActiveDesktop"=hex:01,00,00,00

; There needs to be a blank line below this line

 

--------------------------- Cut Here ---------------------------

 

Should help when exchanging the DLL's mentioned above as well.

 

 

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