Guest Desert Rider Posted September 7, 2008 Posted September 7, 2008 I'm currently running SP2 with all current updates. I'm about to update to SP 3 (through Windows Update) and thought I'd ask advice about anything I should do in preparation for the update. I will be making a disc image using Acronis before the update. I use BitDefender as an AV program. Should I disable it during the update? I assume I should keep the BD firewall activated during install. Any other tips or advice appreciated.
Guest JS Posted September 7, 2008 Posted September 7, 2008 Re: SP 2 to SP 3 update If I where to install SP3 I would choose to download the file and not use Automatic Updates. How to obtain the latest Windows XP service pack http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322389 Where to download the SP3 installation file: (File is large but will only install components that your PC requires) http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=5b33b5a8-5e76-401f-be08-1e1555d4f3d4&DisplayLang=en Install SP3 in 'Clean Boot' mode: How to configure Windows XP to start in a "clean boot" state http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310353 Windows XP Service Pack 3 Overview http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=68c48dad-bc34-40be-8d85-6bb4f56f5110&displaylang=en Be sure to download and read the file titled 'Overview of Windows XP Service Pack 3' Note: "You can run the SP3 update package on any edition of Windows XP SP1 or SP2." The hard disk space requirements for Windows XP Service Pack 3 Discusses the hard disk space requirements for installing Windows XP Service Pack 3 (SP3) "For a PC on which Windows XP is already installed" http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947311/en-us Installing Windows XP Service Pack 3 (SP3) http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/cc164204.aspx Release notes for the Windows XP Service Pack 3 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936929/en-us List of fixes that are included in Windows XP Service Pack 3 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/946480/ Steps to take before you install Windows XP Service Pack 3 Recommends steps to take before you install Windows XP Service Pack 3. Also includes troubleshooting information. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950717/en-us Internet Explorer: (From Shenan Stanley MS MVP) "If you have installed Windows Internet Explorer® 7 or a beta version of Internet Explorer 8, and then install Windows XP SP3, you cannot uninstall Internet Explorer. To avoid this, ensure Internet Explorer 7 or a beta version of Internet Explorer 8 is not installed before installing Windows XP SP3. If you have already encountered this issue, uninstall Windows XP SP3, uninstall Internet Explorer, and then reinstall Windows XP SP3." Windows XP Media Center Edition 2002: (From Shenan Stanley MS MVP) "If you install Windows XP SP3 on a computer running Windows XP Media Center Edition 2002 with SP1, Windows XP Media Center Edition may malfunction. To avoid this, install Windows XP SP2 before you install Windows XP SP3. If this issue has already occurred, uninstall Windows XP SP3, install Windows XP SP2, and then reinstall Windows XP SP3." XP SP3: Post Installation Cleanup: http://www.aumha.net/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=33827 How to troubleshoot an unsuccessful installation of Windows XP Service Pack 3: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950718/en-us Free unlimited installation and compatibility support (Via Email, Chat or Phone support) http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-us&prid=11273&gprid=522131 Availability of the .NET Framework 1.0 post-Service Pack 3 hotfix Describes the .NET Framework 1.0 post-Service Pack 3 hotfix rollup package for the Mscorwks.dll, Mscorsvr.dll, and Mscorlib.dll files. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/896061/en-us JS http://www.pagestart.com "Desert Rider" <brogue6150@mypacks.net> wrote in message news:2d467a71-947f-42dc-af83-941a77807abb@a18g2000pra.googlegroups.com... > I'm currently running SP2 with all current updates. I'm about to > update to SP 3 (through Windows Update) and thought I'd ask advice > about anything I should do in preparation for the update. I will be > making a disc image using Acronis before the update. I use BitDefender > as an AV program. Should I disable it during the update? I assume I > should keep the BD firewall activated during install. > > Any other tips or advice appreciated. >
Guest Desert Rider Posted September 7, 2008 Posted September 7, 2008 Re: SP 2 to SP 3 update On Sep 6, 6:19 pm, "JS" <@> wrote: > If I where to install SP3 I would choose to download the > file and not use Automatic Updates. > > How to obtain the latest Windows XP service packhttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/322389 > > Where to download the SP3 installation file: > (File is large but will only install components that your PC requires)http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=5b33b5a8-5e7... > > Install SP3 in 'Clean Boot' mode: > How to configure Windows XP to start in a "clean boot" statehttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/310353 > > Windows XP Service Pack 3 Overviewhttp://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=68c48dad-bc3... > Be sure to download and read the file titled 'Overview of Windows XP Service > Pack 3' > Note: "You can run the SP3 update package on any edition of Windows XP SP1 > or SP2." > > The hard disk space requirements for Windows XP Service Pack 3 > Discusses the hard disk space requirements for installing > Windows XP Service Pack 3 (SP3) > "For a PC on which Windows XP is already installed"http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947311/en-us > > Installing Windows XP Service Pack 3 (SP3)http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/cc164204.aspx > > Release notes for the Windows XP Service Pack 3http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936929/en-us > > List of fixes that are included in Windows XP Service Pack 3http://support.microsoft.com/kb/946480/ > > Steps to take before you install Windows XP Service Pack 3 > Recommends steps to take before you install Windows XP Service Pack 3. > Also includes troubleshooting information.http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950717/en-us > > Internet Explorer: (From Shenan Stanley MS MVP) > "If you have installed Windows Internet Explorer® 7 or a beta version of > Internet Explorer 8, and then install Windows XP SP3, you cannot uninstall > Internet Explorer. To avoid this, ensure Internet Explorer 7 or a beta > version of Internet Explorer 8 is not installed before installing Windows XP > SP3. If you have already encountered this issue, uninstall Windows XP SP3, > uninstall Internet Explorer, and then reinstall Windows XP SP3." > > Windows XP Media Center Edition 2002: (From Shenan Stanley MS MVP) > "If you install Windows XP SP3 on a computer running Windows XP Media Center > Edition 2002 with SP1, Windows XP Media Center Edition may malfunction. To > avoid this, install Windows XP SP2 before you install Windows XP SP3. If > this issue has already occurred, uninstall Windows XP SP3, install Windows > XP SP2, and then reinstall Windows XP SP3." > > XP SP3: Post Installation Cleanup:http://www.aumha.net/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=33827 > > How to troubleshoot an unsuccessful installation of > Windows XP Service Pack 3:http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950718/en-us > > Free unlimited installation and compatibility support > (Via Email, Chat or Phone support)http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-us&prid=11273&gpr... > > Availability of the .NET Framework 1.0 post-Service Pack 3 hotfix > Describes the .NET Framework 1.0 post-Service Pack 3 hotfix rollup package > for the Mscorwks.dll, Mscorsvr.dll, and Mscorlib.dll files.http://support..microsoft.com/kb/896061/en-us > > JSwww.pagestart.com > > "Desert Rider" <brogue6...@mypacks.net> wrote in message > > news:2d467a71-947f-42dc-af83-941a77807abb@a18g2000pra.googlegroups.com... > > > I'm currently running SP2 with all current updates. I'm about to > > update to SP 3 (through Windows Update) and thought I'd ask advice > > about anything I should do in preparation for the update. I will be > > making a disc image using Acronis before the update. I use BitDefender > > as an AV program. Should I disable it during the update? I assume I > > should keep the BD firewall activated during install. > > > Any other tips or advice appreciated. Thanks for the reply. Per the download link you provided (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/ details.aspx?FamilyID=5b33b5a8-5e76-401f- be08-1e1555d4f3d4&DisplayLang=en -Windows XP Service Pack 3 Network Installation Package for IT Professionals and Developers) there is this notice: "DO NOT CLICK DOWNLOAD IF YOU ARE UPDATING JUST ONE COMPUTER: A smaller, more appropriate download is now available on Windows Update. The best way to ensure you get Windows XP Service Pack 3 is by turning on the Automatic Updates feature in Windows XP. You can use our step- by-step instructions or, if you prefer, let us do it for you." Any comments on this?
Guest Desert Rider Posted September 7, 2008 Posted September 7, 2008 Re: SP 2 to SP 3 update On Sep 6, 6:41 pm, Desert Rider <brogue6...@mypacks.net> wrote: > On Sep 6, 6:19 pm, "JS" <@> wrote: > > > > > If I where to install SP3 I would choose to download the > > file and not use Automatic Updates. > > > How to obtain the latest Windows XP service packhttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/322389 > > > Where to download the SP3 installation file: > > (File is large but will only install components that your PC requires)http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=5b33b5a8-5e7... > > > Install SP3 in 'Clean Boot' mode: > > How to configure Windows XP to start in a "clean boot" statehttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/310353 > > > Windows XP Service Pack 3 Overviewhttp://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=68c48dad-bc3... > > Be sure to download and read the file titled 'Overview of Windows XP Service > > Pack 3' > > Note: "You can run the SP3 update package on any edition of Windows XP SP1 > > or SP2." > > > The hard disk space requirements for Windows XP Service Pack 3 > > Discusses the hard disk space requirements for installing > > Windows XP Service Pack 3 (SP3) > > "For a PC on which Windows XP is already installed"http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947311/en-us > > > Installing Windows XP Service Pack 3 (SP3)http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/cc164204.aspx > > > Release notes for the Windows XP Service Pack 3http://support.microsoft..com/kb/936929/en-us > > > List of fixes that are included in Windows XP Service Pack 3http://support.microsoft.com/kb/946480/ > > > Steps to take before you install Windows XP Service Pack 3 > > Recommends steps to take before you install Windows XP Service Pack 3. > > Also includes troubleshooting information.http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950717/en-us > > > Internet Explorer: (From Shenan Stanley MS MVP) > > "If you have installed Windows Internet Explorer® 7 or a beta version of > > Internet Explorer 8, and then install Windows XP SP3, you cannot uninstall > > Internet Explorer. To avoid this, ensure Internet Explorer 7 or a beta > > version of Internet Explorer 8 is not installed before installing Windows XP > > SP3. If you have already encountered this issue, uninstall Windows XP SP3, > > uninstall Internet Explorer, and then reinstall Windows XP SP3." > > > Windows XP Media Center Edition 2002: (From Shenan Stanley MS MVP) > > "If you install Windows XP SP3 on a computer running Windows XP Media Center > > Edition 2002 with SP1, Windows XP Media Center Edition may malfunction. To > > avoid this, install Windows XP SP2 before you install Windows XP SP3. If > > this issue has already occurred, uninstall Windows XP SP3, install Windows > > XP SP2, and then reinstall Windows XP SP3." > > > XP SP3: Post Installation Cleanup:http://www.aumha.net/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=33827 > > > How to troubleshoot an unsuccessful installation of > > Windows XP Service Pack 3:http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950718/en-us > > > Free unlimited installation and compatibility support > > (Via Email, Chat or Phone support)http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-us&prid=11273&gpr... > > > Availability of the .NET Framework 1.0 post-Service Pack 3 hotfix > > Describes the .NET Framework 1.0 post-Service Pack 3 hotfix rollup package > > for the Mscorwks.dll, Mscorsvr.dll, and Mscorlib.dll files.http://support.microsoft.com/kb/896061/en-us > > > JSwww.pagestart.com > > > "Desert Rider" <brogue6...@mypacks.net> wrote in message > > >news:2d467a71-947f-42dc-af83-941a77807abb@a18g2000pra.googlegroups.com.... > > > > I'm currently running SP2 with all current updates. I'm about to > > > update to SP 3 (through Windows Update) and thought I'd ask advice > > > about anything I should do in preparation for the update. I will be > > > making a disc image using Acronis before the update. I use BitDefender > > > as an AV program. Should I disable it during the update? I assume I > > > should keep the BD firewall activated during install. > > > > Any other tips or advice appreciated. > > Thanks for the reply. > > Per the download link you provided (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/ > details.aspx?FamilyID=5b33b5a8-5e76-401f- > be08-1e1555d4f3d4&DisplayLang=en -Windows XP Service Pack 3 Network > Installation Package for IT Professionals and Developers) there is > this notice: > > "DO NOT CLICK DOWNLOAD IF YOU ARE UPDATING JUST ONE COMPUTER: A > smaller, more appropriate download is now available on Windows Update. > The best way to ensure you get Windows XP Service Pack 3 is by turning > on the Automatic Updates feature in Windows XP. You can use our step- > by-step instructions or, if you prefer, let us do it for you." > > Any comments on this? Sorry I didn't include this in my previous reply but under installation instructions there is this notice about Win XP Pro (which I'm running): 5. If your computer is running Windows XP Professional, we recommend that you create an Automated System Recovery (ASR) set before you begin the installation. This will help you repair your setup if the installation fails. For more information, see "To create an Automated System Recovery set using Backup" and "To recover from a system failure using Automated System Recovery" in Help and Support Center. Will this be necessary?
Guest Big_Al Posted September 7, 2008 Posted September 7, 2008 Re: SP 2 to SP 3 update Desert Rider wrote: > On Sep 6, 6:19 pm, "JS" <@> wrote: >> If I where to install SP3 I would choose to download the >> file and not use Automatic Updates. >> >> How to obtain the latest Windows XP service packhttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/322389 >> >> Where to download the SP3 installation file: >> (File is large but will only install components that your PC requires)http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=5b33b5a8-5e7... >> >> Install SP3 in 'Clean Boot' mode: >> How to configure Windows XP to start in a "clean boot" statehttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/310353 >> >> Windows XP Service Pack 3 Overviewhttp://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=68c48dad-bc3... >> Be sure to download and read the file titled 'Overview of Windows XP Service >> Pack 3' >> Note: "You can run the SP3 update package on any edition of Windows XP SP1 >> or SP2." >> >> The hard disk space requirements for Windows XP Service Pack 3 >> Discusses the hard disk space requirements for installing >> Windows XP Service Pack 3 (SP3) >> "For a PC on which Windows XP is already installed"http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947311/en-us >> >> Installing Windows XP Service Pack 3 (SP3)http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/cc164204.aspx >> >> Release notes for the Windows XP Service Pack 3http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936929/en-us >> >> List of fixes that are included in Windows XP Service Pack 3http://support.microsoft.com/kb/946480/ >> >> Steps to take before you install Windows XP Service Pack 3 >> Recommends steps to take before you install Windows XP Service Pack 3. >> Also includes troubleshooting information.http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950717/en-us >> >> Internet Explorer: (From Shenan Stanley MS MVP) >> "If you have installed Windows Internet Explorer® 7 or a beta version of >> Internet Explorer 8, and then install Windows XP SP3, you cannot uninstall >> Internet Explorer. To avoid this, ensure Internet Explorer 7 or a beta >> version of Internet Explorer 8 is not installed before installing Windows XP >> SP3. If you have already encountered this issue, uninstall Windows XP SP3, >> uninstall Internet Explorer, and then reinstall Windows XP SP3." >> >> Windows XP Media Center Edition 2002: (From Shenan Stanley MS MVP) >> "If you install Windows XP SP3 on a computer running Windows XP Media Center >> Edition 2002 with SP1, Windows XP Media Center Edition may malfunction. To >> avoid this, install Windows XP SP2 before you install Windows XP SP3. If >> this issue has already occurred, uninstall Windows XP SP3, install Windows >> XP SP2, and then reinstall Windows XP SP3." >> >> XP SP3: Post Installation Cleanup:http://www.aumha.net/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=33827 >> >> How to troubleshoot an unsuccessful installation of >> Windows XP Service Pack 3:http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950718/en-us >> >> Free unlimited installation and compatibility support >> (Via Email, Chat or Phone support)http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-us&prid=11273&gpr... >> >> Availability of the .NET Framework 1.0 post-Service Pack 3 hotfix >> Describes the .NET Framework 1.0 post-Service Pack 3 hotfix rollup package >> for the Mscorwks.dll, Mscorsvr.dll, and Mscorlib.dll files.http://support.microsoft.com/kb/896061/en-us >> >> JSwww.pagestart.com >> >> "Desert Rider" <brogue6...@mypacks.net> wrote in message >> >> news:2d467a71-947f-42dc-af83-941a77807abb@a18g2000pra.googlegroups.com... >> >>> I'm currently running SP2 with all current updates. I'm about to >>> update to SP 3 (through Windows Update) and thought I'd ask advice >>> about anything I should do in preparation for the update. I will be >>> making a disc image using Acronis before the update. I use BitDefender >>> as an AV program. Should I disable it during the update? I assume I >>> should keep the BD firewall activated during install. >>> Any other tips or advice appreciated. > > Thanks for the reply. > > Per the download link you provided (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/ > details.aspx?FamilyID=5b33b5a8-5e76-401f- > be08-1e1555d4f3d4&DisplayLang=en -Windows XP Service Pack 3 Network > Installation Package for IT Professionals and Developers) there is > this notice: > > "DO NOT CLICK DOWNLOAD IF YOU ARE UPDATING JUST ONE COMPUTER: A > smaller, more appropriate download is now available on Windows Update. > The best way to ensure you get Windows XP Service Pack 3 is by turning > on the Automatic Updates feature in Windows XP. You can use our step- > by-step instructions or, if you prefer, let us do it for you." > > Any comments on this? > > You just need this: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=5B33B5A8-5E76-401F-BE08-1E1555D4F3D4&displaylang=en What they are trying to say is that if you let Windows Automatic Updates do it, it will download a smaller bundle of data. It might, but most people are advising to download the SP3.exe and run it manually. You need to read all of the links JS left you in another response like turning off AV etc.
Guest JS Posted September 7, 2008 Posted September 7, 2008 Re: SP 2 to SP 3 update This is the file you want, you can safely ignore the comment about not using this file for updating just one computer. As I mentioned it is a large file but only the components your PC needs will be installed. I don't like upgrading over the Internet as it may take longer (depending on your connection speed) and if you should lose connectivity things may get screwed up. You are going to create a fresh image backup (Acronis) before installing SP3 so I would not worry about the Automated System Recovery (ASR) issue. Just create a fresh Restore Point if you like (not necessary), then do the image backup, then upgrade to SP3 after reading and understanding all the info contained in the links I posted. JS "Desert Rider" <brogue6150@mypacks.net> wrote in message news:3643693b-920e-4204-aed0-c385b3fcdaae@r15g2000prd.googlegroups.com... On Sep 6, 6:19 pm, "JS" <@> wrote: > If I where to install SP3 I would choose to download the > file and not use Automatic Updates. > > How to obtain the latest Windows XP service > packhttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/322389 > > Where to download the SP3 installation file: > (File is large but will only install components that your PC > requires)http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=5b33b5a8-5e7... > > Install SP3 in 'Clean Boot' mode: > How to configure Windows XP to start in a "clean boot" > statehttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/310353 > > Windows XP Service Pack 3 > Overviewhttp://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=68c48dad-bc3... > Be sure to download and read the file titled 'Overview of Windows XP > Service > Pack 3' > Note: "You can run the SP3 update package on any edition of Windows XP SP1 > or SP2." > > The hard disk space requirements for Windows XP Service Pack 3 > Discusses the hard disk space requirements for installing > Windows XP Service Pack 3 (SP3) > "For a PC on which Windows XP is already > installed"http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947311/en-us > > Installing Windows XP Service Pack 3 > (SP3)http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/cc164204.aspx > > Release notes for the Windows XP Service Pack > 3http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936929/en-us > > List of fixes that are included in Windows XP Service Pack > 3http://support.microsoft.com/kb/946480/ > > Steps to take before you install Windows XP Service Pack 3 > Recommends steps to take before you install Windows XP Service Pack 3. > Also includes troubleshooting > information.http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950717/en-us > > Internet Explorer: (From Shenan Stanley MS MVP) > "If you have installed Windows Internet Explorer® 7 or a beta version of > Internet Explorer 8, and then install Windows XP SP3, you cannot uninstall > Internet Explorer. To avoid this, ensure Internet Explorer 7 or a beta > version of Internet Explorer 8 is not installed before installing Windows > XP > SP3. If you have already encountered this issue, uninstall Windows XP SP3, > uninstall Internet Explorer, and then reinstall Windows XP SP3." > > Windows XP Media Center Edition 2002: (From Shenan Stanley MS MVP) > "If you install Windows XP SP3 on a computer running Windows XP Media > Center > Edition 2002 with SP1, Windows XP Media Center Edition may malfunction. To > avoid this, install Windows XP SP2 before you install Windows XP SP3. If > this issue has already occurred, uninstall Windows XP SP3, install Windows > XP SP2, and then reinstall Windows XP SP3." > > XP SP3: Post Installation > Cleanup:http://www.aumha.net/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=33827 > > How to troubleshoot an unsuccessful installation of > Windows XP Service Pack 3:http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950718/en-us > > Free unlimited installation and compatibility support > (Via Email, Chat or Phone > support)http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-us&prid=11273&gpr... > > Availability of the .NET Framework 1.0 post-Service Pack 3 hotfix > Describes the .NET Framework 1.0 post-Service Pack 3 hotfix rollup package > for the Mscorwks.dll, Mscorsvr.dll, and Mscorlib.dll > files.http://support.microsoft.com/kb/896061/en-us > > JSwww.pagestart.com > > "Desert Rider" <brogue6...@mypacks.net> wrote in message > > news:2d467a71-947f-42dc-af83-941a77807abb@a18g2000pra.googlegroups.com... > > > I'm currently running SP2 with all current updates. I'm about to > > update to SP 3 (through Windows Update) and thought I'd ask advice > > about anything I should do in preparation for the update. I will be > > making a disc image using Acronis before the update. I use BitDefender > > as an AV program. Should I disable it during the update? I assume I > > should keep the BD firewall activated during install. > > > Any other tips or advice appreciated. Thanks for the reply. Per the download link you provided (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/ details.aspx?FamilyID=5b33b5a8-5e76-401f- be08-1e1555d4f3d4&DisplayLang=en -Windows XP Service Pack 3 Network Installation Package for IT Professionals and Developers) there is this notice: "DO NOT CLICK DOWNLOAD IF YOU ARE UPDATING JUST ONE COMPUTER: A smaller, more appropriate download is now available on Windows Update. The best way to ensure you get Windows XP Service Pack 3 is by turning on the Automatic Updates feature in Windows XP. You can use our step- by-step instructions or, if you prefer, let us do it for you." Any comments on this?
Guest Desert Rider Posted September 7, 2008 Posted September 7, 2008 Re: SP 2 to SP 3 update On Sep 6, 7:30 pm, "JS" <@> wrote: > This is the file you want, you can safely ignore the comment about not using > this file for updating just one computer. > As I mentioned it is a large file but only the components your PC needs will > be installed. I don't like upgrading over the Internet as it may take longer > (depending on your connection speed) and if you should lose connectivity > things may get screwed up. > > You are going to create a fresh image backup (Acronis) before installing SP3 > so I would not worry about the Automated System Recovery (ASR) issue. Just > create a fresh Restore Point if you like (not necessary), then do the image > backup, then upgrade to SP3 after reading and understanding all the info > contained in the links I posted. > > JS > > "Desert Rider" <brogue6...@mypacks.net> wrote in message > > news:3643693b-920e-4204-aed0-c385b3fcdaae@r15g2000prd.googlegroups.com... > On Sep 6, 6:19 pm, "JS" <@> wrote: > > > > > If I where to install SP3 I would choose to download the > > file and not use Automatic Updates. > > > How to obtain the latest Windows XP service > > packhttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/322389 > > > Where to download the SP3 installation file: > > (File is large but will only install components that your PC > > requires)http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=5b33b5a8-5e7... > > > Install SP3 in 'Clean Boot' mode: > > How to configure Windows XP to start in a "clean boot" > > statehttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/310353 > > > Windows XP Service Pack 3 > > Overviewhttp://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=68c48dad-bc3... > > Be sure to download and read the file titled 'Overview of Windows XP > > Service > > Pack 3' > > Note: "You can run the SP3 update package on any edition of Windows XP SP1 > > or SP2." > > > The hard disk space requirements for Windows XP Service Pack 3 > > Discusses the hard disk space requirements for installing > > Windows XP Service Pack 3 (SP3) > > "For a PC on which Windows XP is already > > installed"http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947311/en-us > > > Installing Windows XP Service Pack 3 > > (SP3)http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/cc164204.aspx > > > Release notes for the Windows XP Service Pack > > 3http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936929/en-us > > > List of fixes that are included in Windows XP Service Pack > > 3http://support.microsoft.com/kb/946480/ > > > Steps to take before you install Windows XP Service Pack 3 > > Recommends steps to take before you install Windows XP Service Pack 3. > > Also includes troubleshooting > > information.http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950717/en-us > > > Internet Explorer: (From Shenan Stanley MS MVP) > > "If you have installed Windows Internet Explorer® 7 or a beta version of > > Internet Explorer 8, and then install Windows XP SP3, you cannot uninstall > > Internet Explorer. To avoid this, ensure Internet Explorer 7 or a beta > > version of Internet Explorer 8 is not installed before installing Windows > > XP > > SP3. If you have already encountered this issue, uninstall Windows XP SP3, > > uninstall Internet Explorer, and then reinstall Windows XP SP3." > > > Windows XP Media Center Edition 2002: (From Shenan Stanley MS MVP) > > "If you install Windows XP SP3 on a computer running Windows XP Media > > Center > > Edition 2002 with SP1, Windows XP Media Center Edition may malfunction. To > > avoid this, install Windows XP SP2 before you install Windows XP SP3. If > > this issue has already occurred, uninstall Windows XP SP3, install Windows > > XP SP2, and then reinstall Windows XP SP3." > > > XP SP3: Post Installation > > Cleanup:http://www.aumha.net/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=33827 > > > How to troubleshoot an unsuccessful installation of > > Windows XP Service Pack 3:http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950718/en-us > > > Free unlimited installation and compatibility support > > (Via Email, Chat or Phone > > support)http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-us&prid=11273&gpr... > > > Availability of the .NET Framework 1.0 post-Service Pack 3 hotfix > > Describes the .NET Framework 1.0 post-Service Pack 3 hotfix rollup package > > for the Mscorwks.dll, Mscorsvr.dll, and Mscorlib.dll > > files.http://support.microsoft.com/kb/896061/en-us > > > JSwww.pagestart.com > > > "Desert Rider" <brogue6...@mypacks.net> wrote in message > > >news:2d467a71-947f-42dc-af83-941a77807abb@a18g2000pra.googlegroups.com.... > > > > I'm currently running SP2 with all current updates. I'm about to > > > update to SP 3 (through Windows Update) and thought I'd ask advice > > > about anything I should do in preparation for the update. I will be > > > making a disc image using Acronis before the update. I use BitDefender > > > as an AV program. Should I disable it during the update? I assume I > > > should keep the BD firewall activated during install. > > > > Any other tips or advice appreciated. > > Thanks for the reply. > > Per the download link you provided (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/ > details.aspx?FamilyID=5b33b5a8-5e76-401f- > be08-1e1555d4f3d4&DisplayLang=en -Windows XP Service Pack 3 Network > Installation Package for IT Professionals and Developers) there is > this notice: > > "DO NOT CLICK DOWNLOAD IF YOU ARE UPDATING JUST ONE COMPUTER: A > smaller, more appropriate download is now available on Windows Update. > The best way to ensure you get Windows XP Service Pack 3 is by turning > on the Automatic Updates feature in Windows XP. You can use our step- > by-step instructions or, if you prefer, let us do it for you." > > Any comments on this? Thanks for all the clarifications. I will download the full install file and follow recommendations of the other links. Appreciate everyone's help Regards, RW
Guest Daave Posted September 7, 2008 Posted September 7, 2008 Re: SP 2 to SP 3 update "Desert Rider" <brogue6150@mypacks.net> wrote in message news:2d467a71-947f-42dc-af83-941a77807abb@a18g2000pra.googlegroups.com... > I'm currently running SP2 with all current updates. I'm about to > update to SP 3 (through Windows Update) and thought I'd ask advice > about anything I should do in preparation for the update. I will be > making a disc image using Acronis before the update. I use BitDefender > as an AV program. Should I disable it during the update? I assume I > should keep the BD firewall activated during install. > > Any other tips or advice appreciated. You're definitely on the right track, DR. If you have a PC that has both an AMD processor *and* an OEM image (it seems that most problematic are certain HP images), you will need to do some homework first: http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesper/archive/2008/05/08/does-your-amd-based-computer-boot-after-installing-xp-sp3.aspx (or http://tinyurl.com/6zs52d ) Rather than use BD's firewall, use the built-in Windows firewall (for the upgrade, that is). Furthermore, configure your system for a clean boot: How to configure Windows XP to start in a "clean boot" state: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310353 Regarding the message "DO NOT CLICK DOWNLOAD IF YOU ARE UPDATING JUST ONE COMPUTER," don't worry about it. You can certainly attempt the upgrade using Windows Update. And since you will have imaged your hard drive first, that will probably be the easiest and quickest way. However if you wish to download the whole Serive Pack, you are certainly able to do so. Many prefer to do just this. It can also come in handy if you ever decide to create a slipstreamed install disk. Your choice. Personally, that's how I would download the Service Pack. This way, you don't even need to be online when you apply it. But again, since you're doing all the prep work, the other way should also work. And since you're creating an image of your hard drive, creating the ASR set is redundant. Just make sure you validate your backup archive. Finally, know there is free support for SP3-related issues: "Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 3 (All Languages)" (Free Microsoft support for SP3-related issues) http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-us&prid=11273&gprid=522131 (or http://tinyurl.com/6cw2xk ) Good luck! (And remember to undo the clean boot.)
Guest JS Posted September 7, 2008 Posted September 7, 2008 Re: SP 2 to SP 3 update You're welcome. JS "Desert Rider" <brogue6150@mypacks.net> wrote in message news:5d695b22-8991-4ab1-9564-649896a0f62e@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com... On Sep 6, 7:30 pm, "JS" <@> wrote: > This is the file you want, you can safely ignore the comment about not > using > this file for updating just one computer. > As I mentioned it is a large file but only the components your PC needs > will > be installed. I don't like upgrading over the Internet as it may take > longer > (depending on your connection speed) and if you should lose connectivity > things may get screwed up. > > You are going to create a fresh image backup (Acronis) before installing > SP3 > so I would not worry about the Automated System Recovery (ASR) issue. Just > create a fresh Restore Point if you like (not necessary), then do the > image > backup, then upgrade to SP3 after reading and understanding all the info > contained in the links I posted. > > JS > > "Desert Rider" <brogue6...@mypacks.net> wrote in message > > news:3643693b-920e-4204-aed0-c385b3fcdaae@r15g2000prd.googlegroups.com... > On Sep 6, 6:19 pm, "JS" <@> wrote: > > > > > If I where to install SP3 I would choose to download the > > file and not use Automatic Updates. > > > How to obtain the latest Windows XP service > > packhttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/322389 > > > Where to download the SP3 installation file: > > (File is large but will only install components that your PC > > requires)http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=5b33b5a8-5e7... > > > Install SP3 in 'Clean Boot' mode: > > How to configure Windows XP to start in a "clean boot" > > statehttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/310353 > > > Windows XP Service Pack 3 > > Overviewhttp://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=68c48dad-bc3... > > Be sure to download and read the file titled 'Overview of Windows XP > > Service > > Pack 3' > > Note: "You can run the SP3 update package on any edition of Windows XP > > SP1 > > or SP2." > > > The hard disk space requirements for Windows XP Service Pack 3 > > Discusses the hard disk space requirements for installing > > Windows XP Service Pack 3 (SP3) > > "For a PC on which Windows XP is already > > installed"http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947311/en-us > > > Installing Windows XP Service Pack 3 > > (SP3)http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/cc164204.aspx > > > Release notes for the Windows XP Service Pack > > 3http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936929/en-us > > > List of fixes that are included in Windows XP Service Pack > > 3http://support.microsoft.com/kb/946480/ > > > Steps to take before you install Windows XP Service Pack 3 > > Recommends steps to take before you install Windows XP Service Pack 3. > > Also includes troubleshooting > > information.http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950717/en-us > > > Internet Explorer: (From Shenan Stanley MS MVP) > > "If you have installed Windows Internet Explorer® 7 or a beta version of > > Internet Explorer 8, and then install Windows XP SP3, you cannot > > uninstall > > Internet Explorer. To avoid this, ensure Internet Explorer 7 or a beta > > version of Internet Explorer 8 is not installed before installing > > Windows > > XP > > SP3. If you have already encountered this issue, uninstall Windows XP > > SP3, > > uninstall Internet Explorer, and then reinstall Windows XP SP3." > > > Windows XP Media Center Edition 2002: (From Shenan Stanley MS MVP) > > "If you install Windows XP SP3 on a computer running Windows XP Media > > Center > > Edition 2002 with SP1, Windows XP Media Center Edition may malfunction. > > To > > avoid this, install Windows XP SP2 before you install Windows XP SP3. If > > this issue has already occurred, uninstall Windows XP SP3, install > > Windows > > XP SP2, and then reinstall Windows XP SP3." > > > XP SP3: Post Installation > > Cleanup:http://www.aumha.net/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=33827 > > > How to troubleshoot an unsuccessful installation of > > Windows XP Service Pack 3:http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950718/en-us > > > Free unlimited installation and compatibility support > > (Via Email, Chat or Phone > > support)http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-us&prid=11273&gpr... > > > Availability of the .NET Framework 1.0 post-Service Pack 3 hotfix > > Describes the .NET Framework 1.0 post-Service Pack 3 hotfix rollup > > package > > for the Mscorwks.dll, Mscorsvr.dll, and Mscorlib.dll > > files.http://support.microsoft.com/kb/896061/en-us > > > JSwww.pagestart.com > > > "Desert Rider" <brogue6...@mypacks.net> wrote in message > > >news:2d467a71-947f-42dc-af83-941a77807abb@a18g2000pra.googlegroups.com... > > > > I'm currently running SP2 with all current updates. I'm about to > > > update to SP 3 (through Windows Update) and thought I'd ask advice > > > about anything I should do in preparation for the update. I will be > > > making a disc image using Acronis before the update. I use BitDefender > > > as an AV program. Should I disable it during the update? I assume I > > > should keep the BD firewall activated during install. > > > > Any other tips or advice appreciated. > > Thanks for the reply. > > Per the download link you provided (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/ > details.aspx?FamilyID=5b33b5a8-5e76-401f- > be08-1e1555d4f3d4&DisplayLang=en -Windows XP Service Pack 3 Network > Installation Package for IT Professionals and Developers) there is > this notice: > > "DO NOT CLICK DOWNLOAD IF YOU ARE UPDATING JUST ONE COMPUTER: A > smaller, more appropriate download is now available on Windows Update. > The best way to ensure you get Windows XP Service Pack 3 is by turning > on the Automatic Updates feature in Windows XP. You can use our step- > by-step instructions or, if you prefer, let us do it for you." > > Any comments on this? Thanks for all the clarifications. I will download the full install file and follow recommendations of the other links. Appreciate everyone's help Regards, RW
Guest Desert Rider Posted September 7, 2008 Posted September 7, 2008 Re: SP 2 to SP 3 update On Sep 6, 7:48 pm, "Daave" <dcwashNOS...@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote: > "Desert Rider" <brogue6...@mypacks.net> wrote in message > > news:2d467a71-947f-42dc-af83-941a77807abb@a18g2000pra.googlegroups.com... > > > I'm currently running SP2 with all current updates. I'm about to > > update to SP 3 (through Windows Update) and thought I'd ask advice > > about anything I should do in preparation for the update. I will be > > making a disc image using Acronis before the update. I use BitDefender > > as an AV program. Should I disable it during the update? I assume I > > should keep the BD firewall activated during install. > > > Any other tips or advice appreciated. > > You're definitely on the right track, DR. > > If you have a PC that has both an AMD processor *and* an OEM image (it > seems that most problematic are certain HP images), you will need to do > some homework first: > > http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesper/archive/2008/05/08/does-your-a... > > (orhttp://tinyurl.com/6zs52d) > > Rather than use BD's firewall, use the built-in Windows firewall (for > the upgrade, that is). Furthermore, configure your system for a clean > boot: > > How to configure Windows XP to start in a "clean boot" state:http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310353 > > Regarding the message "DO NOT CLICK DOWNLOAD IF YOU ARE UPDATING JUST > ONE COMPUTER," don't worry about it. You can certainly attempt the > upgrade using Windows Update. And since you will have imaged your hard > drive first, that will probably be the easiest and quickest way. However > if you wish to download the whole Serive Pack, you are certainly able to > do so. Many prefer to do just this. It can also come in handy if you > ever decide to create a slipstreamed install disk. Your choice. > Personally, that's how I would download the Service Pack. This way, you > don't even need to be online when you apply it. But again, since you're > doing all the prep work, the other way should also work. > > And since you're creating an image of your hard drive, creating the ASR > set is redundant. Just make sure you validate your backup archive. > > Finally, know there is free support for SP3-related issues: > > "Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 3 (All Languages)" (Free Microsoft > support for SP3-related issues) > > http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-us&prid=11273&gpr.... > > (orhttp://tinyurl.com/6cw2xk) > > Good luck! (And remember to undo the clean boot.) In regards to setting up for a clean boot is this a step I take just before I'm ready to run the SP 3 installation? In other words, do my disc image, disable AV, disable BD firewall, enable Windows Firewall, setup clean boot, reboot PC and install SP 3, after install undo clean boot?
Guest Daave Posted September 7, 2008 Posted September 7, 2008 Re: SP 2 to SP 3 update "Desert Rider" <brogue6150@mypacks.net> wrote in message news:a8e9bad8-d5b4-427f-bffe-83f0bd8d458a@s9g2000prg.googlegroups.com... > In regards to setting up for a clean boot is this a step I take > just before I'm ready to run the SP 3 installation? In other words, > do my disc image, disable AV, disable BD firewall, enable > Windows Firewall, setup clean boot, reboot PC and install SP 3, > after install undo clean boot? Yes. And since you awill be doing a clean boot, there is no need to disable your AV and BD firewall first because the Clean Boot takes care of that! Then when you undo the clean boot, your AV and BD firewall will automatically be back in business. Just make sure to disable your Windows firewall (you don't want to be running two firewalls at the same time).
Guest Desert Rider Posted September 7, 2008 Posted September 7, 2008 Re: SP 2 to SP 3 update On Sep 6, 8:33 pm, "Daave" <dcwashNOS...@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote: > "Desert Rider" <brogue6...@mypacks.net> wrote in message > > news:a8e9bad8-d5b4-427f-bffe-83f0bd8d458a@s9g2000prg.googlegroups.com... > > > In regards to setting up for a clean boot is this a step I take > > just before I'm ready to run the SP 3 installation? In other words, > > do my disc image, disable AV, disable BD firewall, enable > > Windows Firewall, setup clean boot, reboot PC and install SP 3, > > after install undo clean boot? > > Yes. And since you awill be doing a clean boot, there is no need to > disable your AV and BD firewall first because the Clean Boot takes care > of that! > > Then when you undo the clean boot, your AV and BD firewall will > automatically be back in business. Just make sure to disable your > Windows firewall (you don't want to be running two firewalls at the same > time). OK, thanks for the information. Appreciate all the replies from all. Regards, RW
Guest Daave Posted September 7, 2008 Posted September 7, 2008 Re: SP 2 to SP 3 update > "Desert Rider" <brogue6150@mypacks.net> wrote in message > news:ad4d6e2e-b23a-439a-a642-4e23b1685b73@o40g2000prn.googlegroups.com... > On Sep 6, 8:33 pm, "Daave" <dcwashNOS...@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote: >> "Desert Rider" <brogue6...@mypacks.net> wrote in message >> >> news:a8e9bad8-d5b4-427f-bffe-83f0bd8d458a@s9g2000prg.googlegroups.com... >> >> > In regards to setting up for a clean boot is this a step I take >> > just before I'm ready to run the SP 3 installation? In other words, >> > do my disc image, disable AV, disable BD firewall, enable >> > Windows Firewall, setup clean boot, reboot PC and install SP 3, >> > after install undo clean boot? >> >> Yes. And since you awill be doing a clean boot, there is no need to >> disable your AV and BD firewall first because the Clean Boot takes >> care >> of that! >> >> Then when you undo the clean boot, your AV and BD firewall will >> automatically be back in business. Just make sure to disable your >> Windows firewall (you don't want to be running two firewalls at the >> same >> time). > > OK, thanks for the information. Appreciate all the replies from all. > > Regards, > RW YW.
Guest PA Bear [MS MVP] Posted September 7, 2008 Posted September 7, 2008 Re: SP 2 to SP 3 update WinXP SP3 - Read all prerequisites for a successful installation http://msmvps.com/blogs/harrywaldron/archive/2008/05/08/windows-xp-sp3-read-all-prerequisites-for-a-successful-installation.aspx Free unlimited installation and compatibility support is available for Windows XP, but only for Service Pack 3 (SP3), until 14 Apr-09. Chat and e-mail support is available only in the United States and Canada. Go to http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?gprid=1173 | select "Windows XP" then select "Windows XP Service Pack 3" -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002 AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net DTS-L http://dts-l.net/ Desert Rider wrote: > I'm currently running SP2 with all current updates. I'm about to > update to SP 3 (through Windows Update) and thought I'd ask advice > about anything I should do in preparation for the update. I will be > making a disc image using Acronis before the update. I use BitDefender > as an AV program. Should I disable it during the update? I assume I > should keep the BD firewall activated during install. > > Any other tips or advice appreciated.
Guest Lil' Dave Posted September 7, 2008 Posted September 7, 2008 Re: SP 2 to SP 3 update "Desert Rider" <brogue6150@mypacks.net> wrote in message news:2d467a71-947f-42dc-af83-941a77807abb@a18g2000pra.googlegroups.com... > I'm currently running SP2 with all current updates. I'm about to > update to SP 3 (through Windows Update) and thought I'd ask advice > about anything I should do in preparation for the update. I will be > making a disc image using Acronis before the update. I use BitDefender > as an AV program. Should I disable it during the update? I assume I > should keep the BD firewall activated during install. > > Any other tips or advice appreciated. > Always, always, always have complete backup of your windows partition prior to applying a service pack. Be sure to verify that image after the image is created. Always disable the AV prior to installing the service pack. Do not install the service pack while connected to the internet. As an added level of assured proper SP3 data, use a SP3 CD from MS vice a download. Just my opinion. -- Dave
Guest Plato Posted September 9, 2008 Posted September 9, 2008 Re: SP 2 to SP 3 update Desert Rider wrote: > > I'm currently running SP2 with all current updates. I'm about to > update to SP 3 (through Windows Update) and thought I'd ask advice > about anything I should do in preparation for the update. I will be > making a disc image using Acronis before the update. I use BitDefender > as an AV program. Should I disable it during the update? I assume I > should keep the BD firewall activated during install. Please state exactly why you want to upgrade your OS??? -- http://www.bootdisk.com/
Guest Plato Posted September 9, 2008 Posted September 9, 2008 Re: SP 2 to SP 3 update JS wrote: > > If I where to install SP3 I would choose to download the > file and not use Automatic Updates. If I were to install SP3 I'd need a good reason to first. I certainly wouldn't "upgrade" just because a new version of XP was released. -- http://www.bootdisk.com/
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