System drives says it is full but it's not

[Guest JKarmy]

I have a three week old install of win 2003 Enterprise on a 19 gig partition.

There are few programs installed on it(symantec endpoint, sp2, .net framework

2.0, java runtime, and the rest on D: where SQL 2000, syspro, and office 2003

are installed. up until a few days ago there was at least 5 gigs left on C:.

i remoted on today and found that there is only 550mb left. I had this issue

with two other servers recently and had to rebuild the system drives becuase

i could not find what was taking up the drive space. I checked and cleared

the event logs, temp files, and ran a diagnostic for larg files but none were

found-HELP! This is my SQL server and would really hate to have to rebuild

this thing.

[Guest Dave Patrick]

Re: System drives says it is full but it's not

 

You'll need to get to the bottom of what consumes the space in order to

understand the issue. Start by checking the size of the directories in the

root.

 

 

 

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Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.

Microsoft Certified Professional

Microsoft MVP [Windows]

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"JKarmy" wrote:

>I have a three week old install of win 2003 Enterprise on a 19 gig

>partition.

> There are few programs installed on it(symantec endpoint, sp2, .net

> framework

> 2.0, java runtime, and the rest on D: where SQL 2000, syspro, and office

> 2003

> are installed. up until a few days ago there was at least 5 gigs left on

> C:.

> i remoted on today and found that there is only 550mb left. I had this

> issue

> with two other servers recently and had to rebuild the system drives

> becuase

> i could not find what was taking up the drive space. I checked and cleared

> the event logs, temp files, and ran a diagnostic for larg files but none

> were

> found-HELP! This is my SQL server and would really hate to have to rebuild

> this thing.

[Guest JKarmy]

Re: System drives says it is full but it's not

 

The directories only consume less than 16g of the 19 this is what confusses me.

 

"Dave Patrick" wrote:

> You'll need to get to the bottom of what consumes the space in order to

> understand the issue. Start by checking the size of the directories in the

> root.

>

>

>

> --

>

> Regards,

>

> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.

> Microsoft Certified Professional

> Microsoft MVP [Windows]

> http://www.microsoft.com/protect

>

>

> "JKarmy" wrote:

> >I have a three week old install of win 2003 Enterprise on a 19 gig

> >partition.

> > There are few programs installed on it(symantec endpoint, sp2, .net

> > framework

> > 2.0, java runtime, and the rest on D: where SQL 2000, syspro, and office

> > 2003

> > are installed. up until a few days ago there was at least 5 gigs left on

> > C:.

> > i remoted on today and found that there is only 550mb left. I had this

> > issue

> > with two other servers recently and had to rebuild the system drives

> > becuase

> > i could not find what was taking up the drive space. I checked and cleared

> > the event logs, temp files, and ran a diagnostic for larg files but none

> > were

> > found-HELP! This is my SQL server and would really hate to have to rebuild

> > this thing.

>

>

[Guest Dave Patrick]

Re: System drives says it is full but it's not

 

Then it may simply be slack space. Consider that every file and directory

listing (no matter what size) takes up at least one cluster. Slack space is

the area between the end of the file and the end of the cluster. It can be

calculated roughly by taking 1/2 of the drive's allocation unit (cluster

size) times the number of files, this is the average wasted space. If you

have a lot of small files then the wasted space figure could be larger.

 

From a command prompt at the root of the drive in question;

chkdsk

to find out your cluster size (allocation unit)

 

 

 

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Regards,

 

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.

Microsoft Certified Professional

Microsoft MVP [Windows]

http://www.microsoft.com/protect

 

 

"JKarmy" wrote:

> The directories only consume less than 16g of the 19 this is what

> confusses me.

[Guest Dave Patrick]

Re: System drives says it is full but it's not

 

Also make sure you're looking at hidden system files. By default you won't

have perms to read/list the contents of the 'System Volume Information'

directory.

 

 

 

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Regards,

 

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.

Microsoft Certified Professional

Microsoft MVP [Windows]

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[Guest Pegasus \(MVP\)]

Re: System drives says it is full but it's not

 

 

"JKarmy" <JKarmy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:A5DF3A60-2ABC-4FE0-9639-B88A037D5F4B@microsoft.com...

>I have a three week old install of win 2003 Enterprise on a 19 gig

>partition.

> There are few programs installed on it(symantec endpoint, sp2, .net

> framework

> 2.0, java runtime, and the rest on D: where SQL 2000, syspro, and office

> 2003

> are installed. up until a few days ago there was at least 5 gigs left on

> C:.

> i remoted on today and found that there is only 550mb left. I had this

> issue

> with two other servers recently and had to rebuild the system drives

> becuase

> i could not find what was taking up the drive space. I checked and cleared

> the event logs, temp files, and ran a diagnostic for larg files but none

> were

> found-HELP! This is my SQL server and would really hate to have to rebuild

> this thing.

 

This often happens when people are not aware of the amount of disk space

consumed by hidden folders. One of these tools may tell you:

DriveUse:

http://members.ozemail.com.au/~nulifetv/freezip/freeware/index.html

Bullet Proof Folder sizes: http://www.foldersizes.com/

[Guest JKarmy]

Re: System drives says it is full but it's not

 

Thank you the foldersize program worked great. I found that my virus def's

had grown to 11gig. I appreciate your help!

 

"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

>

> "JKarmy" <JKarmy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:A5DF3A60-2ABC-4FE0-9639-B88A037D5F4B@microsoft.com...

> >I have a three week old install of win 2003 Enterprise on a 19 gig

> >partition.

> > There are few programs installed on it(symantec endpoint, sp2, .net

> > framework

> > 2.0, java runtime, and the rest on D: where SQL 2000, syspro, and office

> > 2003

> > are installed. up until a few days ago there was at least 5 gigs left on

> > C:.

> > i remoted on today and found that there is only 550mb left. I had this

> > issue

> > with two other servers recently and had to rebuild the system drives

> > becuase

> > i could not find what was taking up the drive space. I checked and cleared

> > the event logs, temp files, and ran a diagnostic for larg files but none

> > were

> > found-HELP! This is my SQL server and would really hate to have to rebuild

> > this thing.

>

> This often happens when people are not aware of the amount of disk space

> consumed by hidden folders. One of these tools may tell you:

> DriveUse:

> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~nulifetv/freezip/freeware/index.html

> Bullet Proof Folder sizes: http://www.foldersizes.com/

>

>

>

[Guest Hank Arnold (MVP)]

Re: System drives says it is full but it's not

 

Argh!! Symantec strikes again!!!

 

I would also urge that you move something to the D: drive (you didn't

say how much room is there).

 

I'm a bit concerned that you are running Office 2003 on the same server

as SQL 2000. This could be a significant performance problem. SQL is not

anxious to share memory and Office can soak up CPU cycles very

quickly... Any chance of moving it to D:?

 

--

 

Regards,

Hank Arnold

Microsoft MVP

Windows Server - Directory Services

 

JKarmy wrote:

> Thank you the foldersize program worked great. I found that my virus def's

> had grown to 11gig. I appreciate your help!

>

> "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

>

>> "JKarmy" <JKarmy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:A5DF3A60-2ABC-4FE0-9639-B88A037D5F4B@microsoft.com...

>>> I have a three week old install of win 2003 Enterprise on a 19 gig

>>> partition.

>>> There are few programs installed on it(symantec endpoint, sp2, .net

>>> framework

>>> 2.0, java runtime, and the rest on D: where SQL 2000, syspro, and office

>>> 2003

>>> are installed. up until a few days ago there was at least 5 gigs left on

>>> C:.

>>> i remoted on today and found that there is only 550mb left. I had this

>>> issue

>>> with two other servers recently and had to rebuild the system drives

>>> becuase

>>> i could not find what was taking up the drive space. I checked and cleared

>>> the event logs, temp files, and ran a diagnostic for larg files but none

>>> were

>>> found-HELP! This is my SQL server and would really hate to have to rebuild

>>> this thing.

>> This often happens when people are not aware of the amount of disk space

>> consumed by hidden folders. One of these tools may tell you:

>> DriveUse:

>> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~nulifetv/freezip/freeware/index.html

>> Bullet Proof Folder sizes: http://www.foldersizes.com/

>>

>>

>>

[Guest Phillip Windell]

Re: System drives says it is full but it's not

 

 

"JKarmy" <JKarmy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:47FA944D-B716-4567-A73F-D20D6280B7B3@microsoft.com...

> Thank you the foldersize program worked great. I found that my virus def's

> had grown to 11gig. I appreciate your help!

 

Don't forget about all the "uninstall" folders from Windows Update (or

Microsoft Update) patches.

 

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Phillip Windell

http://www.wandtv.com

 

The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft,

or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.

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[Guest JKarmy]

Re: System drives says it is full but it's not

 

Thanks for the helpful hints.

 

"Phillip Windell" wrote:

>

> "JKarmy" <JKarmy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:47FA944D-B716-4567-A73F-D20D6280B7B3@microsoft.com...

> > Thank you the foldersize program worked great. I found that my virus def's

> > had grown to 11gig. I appreciate your help!

>

> Don't forget about all the "uninstall" folders from Windows Update (or

> Microsoft Update) patches.

>

> --

> Phillip Windell

> http://www.wandtv.com

>

> The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft,

> or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.

> -----------------------------------------------------

>

>

>

[Guest JKarmy]

Re: System drives says it is full but it's not

 

I only have outlook installed and it is on drive D: (200g partition). Thank

you for your help and appreciate any suggestions you have.

 

"Hank Arnold (MVP)" wrote:

> Argh!! Symantec strikes again!!!

>

> I would also urge that you move something to the D: drive (you didn't

> say how much room is there).

>

> I'm a bit concerned that you are running Office 2003 on the same server

> as SQL 2000. This could be a significant performance problem. SQL is not

> anxious to share memory and Office can soak up CPU cycles very

> quickly... Any chance of moving it to D:?

>

> --

>

> Regards,

> Hank Arnold

> Microsoft MVP

> Windows Server - Directory Services

>

> JKarmy wrote:

> > Thank you the foldersize program worked great. I found that my virus def's

> > had grown to 11gig. I appreciate your help!

> >

> > "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

> >

> >> "JKarmy" <JKarmy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> >> news:A5DF3A60-2ABC-4FE0-9639-B88A037D5F4B@microsoft.com...

> >>> I have a three week old install of win 2003 Enterprise on a 19 gig

> >>> partition.

> >>> There are few programs installed on it(symantec endpoint, sp2, .net

> >>> framework

> >>> 2.0, java runtime, and the rest on D: where SQL 2000, syspro, and office

> >>> 2003

> >>> are installed. up until a few days ago there was at least 5 gigs left on

> >>> C:.

> >>> i remoted on today and found that there is only 550mb left. I had this

> >>> issue

> >>> with two other servers recently and had to rebuild the system drives

> >>> becuase

> >>> i could not find what was taking up the drive space. I checked and cleared

> >>> the event logs, temp files, and ran a diagnostic for larg files but none

> >>> were

> >>> found-HELP! This is my SQL server and would really hate to have to rebuild

> >>> this thing.

> >> This often happens when people are not aware of the amount of disk space

> >> consumed by hidden folders. One of these tools may tell you:

> >> DriveUse:

> >> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~nulifetv/freezip/freeware/index.html

> >> Bullet Proof Folder sizes: http://www.foldersizes.com/

> >>

> >>

> >>

>

[Guest Hank Arnold (MVP)]

Re: System drives says it is full but it's not

 

Have you looked at moving the swap file to the D: drive?

 

You also should really look at what is needed to move Office off of the

server. It *HAS* to be impacting performance (of Office *and* SQL)....

 

--

 

Regards,

Hank Arnold

Microsoft MVP

Windows Server - Directory Services

 

JKarmy wrote:

> I only have outlook installed and it is on drive D: (200g partition). Thank

> you for your help and appreciate any suggestions you have.

>

> "Hank Arnold (MVP)" wrote:

>

>> Argh!! Symantec strikes again!!!

>>

>> I would also urge that you move something to the D: drive (you didn't

>> say how much room is there).

>>

>> I'm a bit concerned that you are running Office 2003 on the same server

>> as SQL 2000. This could be a significant performance problem. SQL is not

>> anxious to share memory and Office can soak up CPU cycles very

>> quickly... Any chance of moving it to D:?

>>

>> --

>>

>> Regards,

>> Hank Arnold

>> Microsoft MVP

>> Windows Server - Directory Services

>>

>> JKarmy wrote:

>>> Thank you the foldersize program worked great. I found that my virus def's

>>> had grown to 11gig. I appreciate your help!

>>>

>>> "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

>>>

>>>> "JKarmy" <JKarmy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:A5DF3A60-2ABC-4FE0-9639-B88A037D5F4B@microsoft.com...

>>>>> I have a three week old install of win 2003 Enterprise on a 19 gig

>>>>> partition.

>>>>> There are few programs installed on it(symantec endpoint, sp2, .net

>>>>> framework

>>>>> 2.0, java runtime, and the rest on D: where SQL 2000, syspro, and office

>>>>> 2003

>>>>> are installed. up until a few days ago there was at least 5 gigs left on

>>>>> C:.

>>>>> i remoted on today and found that there is only 550mb left. I had this

>>>>> issue

>>>>> with two other servers recently and had to rebuild the system drives

>>>>> becuase

>>>>> i could not find what was taking up the drive space. I checked and cleared

>>>>> the event logs, temp files, and ran a diagnostic for larg files but none

>>>>> were

>>>>> found-HELP! This is my SQL server and would really hate to have to rebuild

>>>>> this thing.

>>>> This often happens when people are not aware of the amount of disk space

>>>> consumed by hidden folders. One of these tools may tell you:

>>>> DriveUse:

>>>> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~nulifetv/freezip/freeware/index.html

>>>> Bullet Proof Folder sizes: http://www.foldersizes.com/

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>