defrag

September 9, 2008

I am running windows 98 SE. When I defrag, it gets to around 10 % then it

starts all over again. Never finishes.

Anybody knows what could be wrong? Is there another defraging program out

there you would recommend that is compatible with windows 98?

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øivind reinemo

September 9, 2008

Re: defrag

First, try running defrag in Safe Mode. You'll probably find it works OK.

If it runs ok in Safe Mode, then in all probability, you have some

background program/utility running in Normal Mode and you should take a look

at ScanDefrag v5.5

This is a FREE utility, written by several well respected contributors to

these News Groups and has been designed to run several original MS utilities

through a 'filter' which eliminates the usual junk which stops Defrag (and

Scandisk) from running properly in Normal Mode - as you are already

experiencing.

You can get ScanDefrag at either of the two sites below - and be sure to

read the associated notes for setting it up:

http://home.earthlink.net/~bblanton2/scandefrag/main.htm

http://www.blueorbsoft.com/scandefrag/index.html

Good luck

Mart

"OR" <oeivinr@online.no> wrote in message

news:Oyy9pFlEJHA.5732@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>I am running windows 98 SE. When I defrag, it gets to around 10 % then it

> starts all over again. Never finishes.

> Anybody knows what could be wrong? Is there another defraging program out

> there you would recommend that is compatible with windows 98?

> --

> -----------------------------------------------------

> øivind reinemo

>

September 9, 2008

Re: defrag

grab the defrag utility for winME, (google for it) and swap it for your 98 one.

you will find it (usually) in 'c/windows' folder......

cut the 98 version from c/windows and plonk it in a temp folder prior to putting in the new ME

version.... you wont regret doing it. (reboot after doing this.)

also, delete the folder 'c/windows/APPLOG folder prior to running new defrag proggy.

also(2), make sure No other applications are running whilst defragging... once done, reboot and do

it again; and if you have a h/d with separate partitions, then do them one at a time. (Do Not

run it on any partition that has an NTFS on it... ie, if you are dual booting with 'xp' or etc

which resides on a partition on the same h/d)

davo

"OR" <oeivinr@online.no> wrote in message news:Oyy9pFlEJHA.5732@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> I am running windows 98 SE. When I defrag, it gets to around 10 % then it

> starts all over again. Never finishes.

> Anybody knows what could be wrong? Is there another defraging program out

> there you would recommend that is compatible with windows 98?

> --

> -----------------------------------------------------

> øivind reinemo

>

September 9, 2008

Re: defrag

"OR" <oeivinr@online.no> wrote in message

news:Oyy9pFlEJHA.5732@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>I am running windows 98 SE. When I defrag, it gets to around 10 % then it

> starts all over again. Never finishes.

> Anybody knows what could be wrong? Is there another defraging program out

> there you would recommend that is compatible with windows 98?

Have a look here, by MS MVP Ron Badour:

http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/scandisk.html

and

http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/defrag.html

When you open Defragmenter, first click the Settings button, and un-select the

option to re-arrange/optimize files, and save the setting for use every time you run

Defrag.

One simple workaround is to start in Safe Mode, and then run Defrag from there.

Here's a utility to automate it for you:

ScanDefrag

http://www.blueorbsoft.com/scandefrag/

--

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+

http://dts-l.net/

http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

September 9, 2008

Re: defrag

Disk Defragmenter May Seem to Stop Responding:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/136836

Tip: Run Disk Cleanup before Defrag; Don't *touch* the machine until the

Drag session ends (may take 8-12 hours or more).

Also see http://support.microsoft.com/kb/186978

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~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002

AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net

DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

OR wrote:

> I am running windows 98 SE. When I defrag, it gets to around 10 % then it

> starts all over again. Never finishes.

> Anybody knows what could be wrong? Is there another defraging program out

> there you would recommend that is compatible with windows 98?

September 9, 2008

Re: defrag

On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:47:50 +0930, "dave" <davo@davo.dav> wrote:

>grab the defrag utility for winME, (google for it) and swap it for your 98 one.

>you will find it (usually) in 'c/windows' folder......

>cut the 98 version from c/windows and plonk it in a temp folder prior to putting in the new ME

>version.... you wont regret doing it. (reboot after doing this.)

I have used the Defrag.exe from WindowsME for years. It works great.

Just rename the old win98 version to defrag.old and copy the ME

version into the windows folder. All versions of Defrag prior to

WinME were slower than a turtle. MS finally figured out how to make a

version that worked quickly when they developed WinME. You dont need

WinME to get it, it's all over the internet.

Norton Utilities also contained Speed Disk32. That worked fine too,

but I had a very old version of NU (for Win95). I didn't think the

rest of the program was compatible with Win98se, so I abandoned it

when I found the WinME defragger. But that Speed Disk did work well

too.

September 9, 2008

Re: defrag

"OR" <oeivinr@online.no> wrote in message

news:Oyy9pFlEJHA.5732@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

: I am running windows 98 SE. When I defrag, it gets to around 10 % then it

: starts all over again. Never finishes.

: Anybody knows what could be wrong? Is there another defraging program out

: there you would recommend that is compatible with windows 98?

: --

: -----------------------------------------------------

: øivind reinemo

Hi OR,

: I will tell one of the things that cause this is: Having other programs

running in the background. Such as, a Screen Saver, other programs too. I

will tell you what I do, first disconnect from the Internet, set your Screen

Saver to (none). Go into msconfig by going to Start> Run>type in msconfig>

then click on OK, find the Startup tab at top, click on that then write down

everything you have checked there on a piece of paper, so when you start up

your machine after defrag, you have a list of what to put in the start up

after the defrag. Then restart the machine. Check to see if you have

anything there checked. If not, do your defrag. After defrag is complete, go

back to the msconfig and check the things you had unchecked. then restart

your machine. Reconnect to the Internet. If you want, you can set up your

Screen Saver again. This has always worked for me. I hope this helps.

Angel

:

September 10, 2008

RE: defrag

OR, I would follow Glen, Robear and Angel's advice. The problem with using

the Windows ME defragger is that it is not necessarily meant for Windows 98

Second Edition and while it may work fine at first, it just may cause more

problems later on but even if it does not cause any problems there are other

reasons for not using it. I would consider whether or not there are legal

issues with Microsoft on using their Windows ME defragger on Windows 98

Second Edition and I am just {shocked} that dave "a so-called Christian" from

what I gathered from another post would even consider doing something that

might be remotely illegal and I think that dave has not considered what the

so called "Higher Power" might do in this situation if dave continues to

blaze along the trail that dave is moving towards in this life.

"OR" wrote:

> I am running windows 98 SE. When I defrag, it gets to around 10 % then it

> starts all over again. Never finishes.

> Anybody knows what could be wrong? Is there another defraging program out

> there you would recommend that is compatible with windows 98?

> --

> -----------------------------------------------------

> øivind reinemo

>

September 10, 2008

Re: defrag

Dan wrote:

> OR, I would follow Glen, Robear and Angel's advice. The problem with

> using the Windows ME defragger is that it is not necessarily meant

> for Windows 98 Second Edition and while it may work fine at first, it

> just may cause more problems later on but even if it does not cause

> any problems there are other reasons for not using it. I would

> consider whether or not there are legal issues with Microsoft on

> using their Windows ME defragger on Windows 98 Second Edition and I

> am just {shocked} that dave "a so-called Christian" from what I

> gathered from another post would even consider doing something that

> might be remotely illegal and I think that dave has not considered

> what the so called "Higher Power" might do in this situation if dave

> continues to blaze along the trail that dave is moving towards in

> this life.

>

Dan, why don't you personally call MS and find out before you start your

'holier than thou' preaching.

PS: I have yet to read in a NG where ME defrag caused a problem in Win98SE

because it wasn't designed for it.

September 10, 2008

Re: defrag

Point Noted, Buffalo but you will see dave insulted Gary S. Terhune as well

in another thread.

"Buffalo" wrote:

>

> Dan wrote:

> > OR, I would follow Glen, Robear and Angel's advice. The problem with

> > using the Windows ME defragger is that it is not necessarily meant

> > for Windows 98 Second Edition and while it may work fine at first, it

> > just may cause more problems later on but even if it does not cause

> > any problems there are other reasons for not using it. I would

> > consider whether or not there are legal issues with Microsoft on

> > using their Windows ME defragger on Windows 98 Second Edition and I

> > am just {shocked} that dave "a so-called Christian" from what I

> > gathered from another post would even consider doing something that

> > might be remotely illegal and I think that dave has not considered

> > what the so called "Higher Power" might do in this situation if dave

> > continues to blaze along the trail that dave is moving towards in

> > this life.

> >

> Dan, why don't you personally call MS and find out before you start your

> 'holier than thou' preaching.

>

> PS: I have yet to read in a NG where ME defrag caused a problem in Win98SE

> because it wasn't designed for it.

>

September 10, 2008

Re: defrag

Buffalo, I was also wondering if it was legal to use the Windows ME defragger

with Windows 98 Second Edition or is it necessary from a legal standpoint to

get Microsoft's permission? Thank you for the correction, as well. It

always stings and hurts but I certainly do appreciate it in the end. <smile>