Antivirus Solutions

[Guest Andrew]

We're currently running SAV Corporate 10 on our 2003/XP network and really

don't want to shell out the $1500 for new 50 new licenses. Symantec has

become increasing more bloated with each new version to the point where, if

I wanted to upgrade to Endpoint Protection 11, I'd need to upgrade my

workstations, and that's not going to happen any time soon.

 

I've been looking into some alternate solutions and wanted some opinions on

NOD32. AVComparatives.org shows it has a high detection rate and there

seems to be a lot of praise coming from IT admins in various forums. I've

installed the trial and like it so far. Uses much less resources than SAV.

Anyone had any good or bad experiences with it.

 

Also, does anyone know of any other good products that perform well on

2003/XP?

 

Thanks,

Andrew

[Guest PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Re: Antivirus Solutions

 

NOD32 & Kasperky

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Andrew wrote:

> We're currently running SAV Corporate 10 on our 2003/XP network and really

> don't want to shell out the $1500 for new 50 new licenses. Symantec has

> become increasing more bloated with each new version to the point where,

> if

> I wanted to upgrade to Endpoint Protection 11, I'd need to upgrade my

> workstations, and that's not going to happen any time soon.

>

> I've been looking into some alternate solutions and wanted some opinions

> on

> NOD32. AVComparatives.org shows it has a high detection rate and there

> seems to be a lot of praise coming from IT admins in various forums. I've

> installed the trial and like it so far. Uses much less resources than

> SAV.

> Anyone had any good or bad experiences with it.

>

> Also, does anyone know of any other good products that perform well on

> 2003/XP?

>

> Thanks,

> Andrew

[Guest R. McCarty]

Re: Antivirus Solutions

 

Agreed - both are top tier products and manageable.

Cost wise NOD32 may be a better value.

 

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> NOD32 & Kasperky

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> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002

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>

> Andrew wrote:

>> We're currently running SAV Corporate 10 on our 2003/XP network and

>> really

>> don't want to shell out the $1500 for new 50 new licenses. Symantec has

>> become increasing more bloated with each new version to the point where,

>> if

>> I wanted to upgrade to Endpoint Protection 11, I'd need to upgrade my

>> workstations, and that's not going to happen any time soon.

>>

>> I've been looking into some alternate solutions and wanted some opinions

>> on

>> NOD32. AVComparatives.org shows it has a high detection rate and there

>> seems to be a lot of praise coming from IT admins in various forums.

>> I've

>> installed the trial and like it so far. Uses much less resources than

>> SAV.

>> Anyone had any good or bad experiences with it.

>>

>> Also, does anyone know of any other good products that perform well on

>> 2003/XP?

>>

>> Thanks,

>> Andrew

>

[Guest Cassandra]

RE: Antivirus Solutions

 

I've had very good experiences with the free version of Avira Antivir on two

different WinXP Pro systems. It also gives good results in the third-party

tests. I've never tried the paid version.

 

Thanks.

C.

[Guest David B.]

Re: Antivirus Solutions

 

I believe the EULA of the free version does not allow use in a corporate

environment.

 

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"Cassandra" <Cassandra@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> I've had very good experiences with the free version of Avira Antivir on

> two

> different WinXP Pro systems. It also gives good results in the

> third-party

> tests. I've never tried the paid version.

>

> Thanks.

> C.

[Guest Thee Chicago Wolf]

Re: Antivirus Solutions

 

>We're currently running SAV Corporate 10 on our 2003/XP network and really

>don't want to shell out the $1500 for new 50 new licenses. Symantec has

>become increasing more bloated with each new version to the point where, if

>I wanted to upgrade to Endpoint Protection 11, I'd need to upgrade my

>workstations, and that's not going to happen any time soon.

>

>I've been looking into some alternate solutions and wanted some opinions on

>NOD32. AVComparatives.org shows it has a high detection rate and there

>seems to be a lot of praise coming from IT admins in various forums. I've

>installed the trial and like it so far. Uses much less resources than SAV.

>Anyone had any good or bad experiences with it.

>

>Also, does anyone know of any other good products that perform well on

>2003/XP?

>

>Thanks,

>Andrew

 

I second the other poster who uses Antivir. I've tried all the others,

Antivir has found the most and saved my butt where other have failed.

It's a good value and WAY easy on resources. Works fast on older

workstations as well.

 

- Thee Chicago Wolf

[Guest Andrew]

Re: Antivirus Solutions

 

We are based in the US. Avira seems nice, but as far as I can tell, they

only offer enterprise support in Europe. I was only able to price out their

enterprise product in Euros on their website which took them off my list of

potential solutions.

 

 

"David B." <mail@nomail.net> wrote in message

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>I believe the EULA of the free version does not allow use in a corporate

>environment.

>

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>

>

> "Cassandra" <Cassandra@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:5875578A-8ECD-4B98-B43B-0F1667621415@microsoft.com...

>> I've had very good experiences with the free version of Avira Antivir on

>> two

>> different WinXP Pro systems. It also gives good results in the

>> third-party

>> tests. I've never tried the paid version.

>>

>> Thanks.

>> C.

>

[Guest Leythos]

Re: Antivirus Solutions

 

In article <u6L1zdrEJHA.5104@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, j.doe@nospam.com

says...

> We're currently running SAV Corporate 10 on our 2003/XP network and really

> don't want to shell out the $1500 for new 50 new licenses. Symantec has

> become increasing more bloated with each new version to the point where, if

> I wanted to upgrade to Endpoint Protection 11, I'd need to upgrade my

> workstations, and that's not going to happen any time soon.

>

> I've been looking into some alternate solutions and wanted some opinions on

> NOD32. AVComparatives.org shows it has a high detection rate and there

> seems to be a lot of praise coming from IT admins in various forums. I've

> installed the trial and like it so far. Uses much less resources than SAV.

> Anyone had any good or bad experiences with it.

>

> Also, does anyone know of any other good products that perform well on

> 2003/XP?

 

Andrew, you get what you pay for and you're going to pay $30/license for

most any product that is worth using and has the level of protection

that a company would want.

 

Sym 10.1.7 Corp does not use a lot of resources, it's actually easy on

resources if you set the client options properly, and the reporting

functions are great for audits.

 

 

 

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[Guest ColTom2]

Re: Antivirus Solutions

 

You might look at AVG, as I know of a business with similar number of

licenses that is well pleased with it. I have had it on both my home

computers for sometime now and I too am well pleased.

 

A cursory look at AVG's pricing for 50 licenses for two years is about the

same price as SAV for one year.

 

 

"Andrew" <j.doe@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:u6L1zdrEJHA.5104@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

We're currently running SAV Corporate 10 on our 2003/XP network and really

don't want to shell out the $1500 for new 50 new licenses. Symantec has

become increasing more bloated with each new version to the point where, if

I wanted to upgrade to Endpoint Protection 11, I'd need to upgrade my

workstations, and that's not going to happen any time soon.

 

I've been looking into some alternate solutions and wanted some opinions on

NOD32. AVComparatives.org shows it has a high detection rate and there

seems to be a lot of praise coming from IT admins in various forums. I've

installed the trial and like it so far. Uses much less resources than SAV.

Anyone had any good or bad experiences with it.

 

Also, does anyone know of any other good products that perform well on

2003/XP?

 

Thanks,

Andrew

[Guest Michael Jennings]

Re: Antivirus Solutions

 

NOD32 has the smallest resident virus snooper of all the AV's, other

than F-Prot's, for least impact on system performance. F-Prot would be

less expensive than NOD32, but not as effective - doesn't test as well.

 

"Andrew" <j.doe@nospam.com> wrote in message

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> We are based in the US. Avira seems nice, but as far as I can tell, they only

> offer enterprise support in Europe. I was only able to price out their

> enterprise product in Euros on their website which took them off my list of

> potential solutions.

[Guest Leythos]

Re: Antivirus Solutions

 

In article <OqKteAsEJHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,

noemailaddress@nomail.com says...

> You might look at AVG, as I know of a business with similar number of

> licenses that is well pleased with it. I have had it on both my home

> computers for sometime now and I too am well pleased.

>

> A cursory look at AVG's pricing for 50 licenses for two years is about the

> same price as SAV for one year.

>

 

AVG is worthless for protection in my experience. Of all the computers

I've seen compromised in my years, most all of them were being

"protected" by up-to-date AVG installed.

 

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[Guest Andrew]

Re: Antivirus Solutions

 

Leythos,

according to sites like AVcomparatives.org and avtest.org that other sites

like cnet.com reference, NOD32 seems to be a better choice for overall

protection on one system. NOD32 also has decent reporting functions built

in. I've set up the Remote Administration Conosle on my lab server and it

appears to be quite versatile. It actually has some features that are left

to be desired in Symantecs AV 10 (the RA side of it at least). I haven't

used SEP 11, but I've read horror stories, most of them on Symantec's

forums. Comparing Symantecs $30/license opposed to NOD32 $18/license, where

should I be seeing those extra $12 worth of benefits?

 

 

"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message

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> In article <u6L1zdrEJHA.5104@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, j.doe@nospam.com

> says...

>> We're currently running SAV Corporate 10 on our 2003/XP network and

>> really

>> don't want to shell out the $1500 for new 50 new licenses. Symantec has

>> become increasing more bloated with each new version to the point where,

>> if

>> I wanted to upgrade to Endpoint Protection 11, I'd need to upgrade my

>> workstations, and that's not going to happen any time soon.

>>

>> I've been looking into some alternate solutions and wanted some opinions

>> on

>> NOD32. AVComparatives.org shows it has a high detection rate and there

>> seems to be a lot of praise coming from IT admins in various forums.

>> I've

>> installed the trial and like it so far. Uses much less resources than

>> SAV.

>> Anyone had any good or bad experiences with it.

>>

>> Also, does anyone know of any other good products that perform well on

>> 2003/XP?

>

> Andrew, you get what you pay for and you're going to pay $30/license for

> most any product that is worth using and has the level of protection

> that a company would want.

>

> Sym 10.1.7 Corp does not use a lot of resources, it's actually easy on

> resources if you set the client options properly, and the reporting

> functions are great for audits.

>

>

>

> --

> - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.

> - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a

> drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"

> spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)

[Guest Leythos]

Re: Antivirus Solutions

 

In article <O5S8oXsEJHA.4948@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, j.doe@nospam.com

says...

> Leythos,

> according to sites like AVcomparatives.org and avtest.org that other sites

> like cnet.com reference, NOD32 seems to be a better choice for overall

> protection on one system. NOD32 also has decent reporting functions built

> in. I've set up the Remote Administration Conosle on my lab server and it

> appears to be quite versatile. It actually has some features that are left

> to be desired in Symantecs AV 10 (the RA side of it at least). I haven't

> used SEP 11, but I've read horror stories, most of them on Symantec's

> forums. Comparing Symantecs $30/license opposed to NOD32 $18/license, where

> should I be seeing those extra $12 worth of benefits?

 

You mention "protection on one system" and I'm thinking 1500 like you

mention in your first post.

 

I can not provide definitive reasons for going with Symantec over ESET,

but my experience in the real-world with Symantec Corp products give me

that warm feeling that I've not had from other products. I personally

will not switch to Eset to save a few $.

 

As for SEP 11, it was a nightmare when it was released, nothing except

bad things from it. The current release is very stable, works on XP,

2003, Vista 32/64, and it not any more a drain on resources than the

functions you enable - We never enable the network part as there is no

benefit from it in our networks.

 

Oh, and I just got a quote to renew 10 Symantec Corp licenses with

upgrade to SEP 11 for $21/each, for $1500 I would think your

renewal/upgrade would be around $16 each, saving you money.

 

I just checked on CDW's website, Symantec Endpoint Protection ( v. 11 )

- competitive upgrade license, Level E, 500-999 licenses, retail cost is

$16.45 each.

 

 

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[Guest Leythos]

Re: Antivirus Solutions

 

In article <1221007287_23899@news.usenet.com>, void@nowhere.lan says...

> In article <O5S8oXsEJHA.4948@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, j.doe@nospam.com

> says...

> > Leythos,

> > according to sites like AVcomparatives.org and avtest.org that other sites

> > like cnet.com reference, NOD32 seems to be a better choice for overall

> > protection on one system. NOD32 also has decent reporting functions built

> > in. I've set up the Remote Administration Conosle on my lab server and it

> > appears to be quite versatile. It actually has some features that are left

> > to be desired in Symantecs AV 10 (the RA side of it at least). I haven't

> > used SEP 11, but I've read horror stories, most of them on Symantec's

> > forums. Comparing Symantecs $30/license opposed to NOD32 $18/license, where

> > should I be seeing those extra $12 worth of benefits?

>

> You mention "protection on one system" and I'm thinking 1500 like you

> mention in your first post.

>

> I can not provide definitive reasons for going with Symantec over ESET,

> but my experience in the real-world with Symantec Corp products give me

> that warm feeling that I've not had from other products. I personally

> will not switch to Eset to save a few $.

>

> As for SEP 11, it was a nightmare when it was released, nothing except

> bad things from it. The current release is very stable, works on XP,

> 2003, Vista 32/64, and it not any more a drain on resources than the

> functions you enable - We never enable the network part as there is no

> benefit from it in our networks.

>

> Oh, and I just got a quote to renew 10 Symantec Corp licenses with

> upgrade to SEP 11 for $21/each, for $1500 I would think your

> renewal/upgrade would be around $16 each, saving you money.

>

> I just checked on CDW's website, Symantec Endpoint Protection ( v. 11 )

> - competitive upgrade license, Level E, 500-999 licenses, retail cost is

> $16.45 each.

 

Sorry, I just re-read your post, you said 50 licenses for $1500 and I

mistakenly thought 1500 licenses.

 

Your cost for 50 licenses for RENEWAL would be the same as ESet

 

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[Guest ThePro]

Re: Antivirus Solutions

 

Hi,

 

You have to remember that all the network admins (like me) with successfull

installation of SEP will *not* post on Symantec's forums.

 

I found that SEP 11 is less resource-hungry than SAV Corp 10, is easy to

manage, and runs well on 32 and 64 bits platform.

 

You can enable only the features you want to use (we do not use the firewall

and intrusion detection) and we paid 30$/license for 100 licenses.

 

ThePro

 

"Andrew" <j.doe@nospam.com> wrote:

> I haven't used SEP 11, but I've read horror stories, most of them on

> Symantec's forums. Comparing Symantecs $30/license opposed to NOD32

> $18/license, where should I be seeing those extra $12 worth of benefits?

>

[Guest Chris Barnes]

Re: Antivirus Solutions

 

ColTom2 wrote:

> You might look at AVG, as I know of a business with similar number of

> licenses that is well pleased with it. I have had it on both my home

> computers for sometime now and I too am well pleased.

 

 

I had problems with AVG. First, the built-in firewall tended to block

too much stuff that it should already know about (such as MSN Messenger).

 

Secondly, when I tried to run the Cisco VPN client, I got a BSoD with

AVG running. Duplicated this on 3 different computers, both with XP and

Vista. Removing AVG solved the problem - and it did not reoccur when I

switched to something else (in my case, Symantec EP).

 

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[Guest Hank Arnold (MVP)]

Re: Antivirus Solutions

 

Andrew wrote:

> We're currently running SAV Corporate 10 on our 2003/XP network and really

> don't want to shell out the $1500 for new 50 new licenses. Symantec has

> become increasing more bloated with each new version to the point where, if

> I wanted to upgrade to Endpoint Protection 11, I'd need to upgrade my

> workstations, and that's not going to happen any time soon.

>

> I've been looking into some alternate solutions and wanted some opinions on

> NOD32. AVComparatives.org shows it has a high detection rate and there

> seems to be a lot of praise coming from IT admins in various forums. I've

> installed the trial and like it so far. Uses much less resources than SAV.

> Anyone had any good or bad experiences with it.

>

> Also, does anyone know of any other good products that perform well on

> 2003/XP?

>

> Thanks,

> Andrew

>

>

 

We are currently running Sophos End Point Security. Switched from SAV a

year ago and haven't looked back. they are very willing to deal. We got

a very sweet deal by extending the contract to 4 years....

 

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[Guest Phisherman]

Re: Antivirus Solutions

 

On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 16:05:46 -0400, "Andrew" <j.doe@nospam.com> wrote:

>We're currently running SAV Corporate 10 on our 2003/XP network and really

>don't want to shell out the $1500 for new 50 new licenses. Symantec has

>become increasing more bloated with each new version to the point where, if

>I wanted to upgrade to Endpoint Protection 11, I'd need to upgrade my

>workstations, and that's not going to happen any time soon.

>

>I've been looking into some alternate solutions and wanted some opinions on

>NOD32. AVComparatives.org shows it has a high detection rate and there

>seems to be a lot of praise coming from IT admins in various forums. I've

>installed the trial and like it so far. Uses much less resources than SAV.

>Anyone had any good or bad experiences with it.

>

>Also, does anyone know of any other good products that perform well on

>2003/XP?

>

>Thanks,

>Andrew

>

 

 

I've found that using different anti-virus applications is very

effective against a network attack and detection, with a slight

incease in maintenance. I'd stick with the top 5 rated products. The

$30 per PC sounds quite reasonable, though.

[Guest Hank Arnold (MVP)]

Re: Antivirus Solutions

 

Phisherman wrote:

> On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 16:05:46 -0400, "Andrew" <j.doe@nospam.com> wrote:

>

>> We're currently running SAV Corporate 10 on our 2003/XP network and really

>> don't want to shell out the $1500 for new 50 new licenses. Symantec has

>> become increasing more bloated with each new version to the point where, if

>> I wanted to upgrade to Endpoint Protection 11, I'd need to upgrade my

>> workstations, and that's not going to happen any time soon.

>>

>> I've been looking into some alternate solutions and wanted some opinions on

>> NOD32. AVComparatives.org shows it has a high detection rate and there

>> seems to be a lot of praise coming from IT admins in various forums. I've

>> installed the trial and like it so far. Uses much less resources than SAV.

>> Anyone had any good or bad experiences with it.

>>

>> Also, does anyone know of any other good products that perform well on

>> 2003/XP?

>>

>> Thanks,

>> Andrew

>>

>

>

> I've found that using different anti-virus applications is very

> effective against a network attack and detection, with a slight

> incease in maintenance. I'd stick with the top 5 rated products. The

> $30 per PC sounds quite reasonable, though.

 

Are you suggesting running multiple AV software packages on the same

computer/server? This, AFAIK, is a very bad idea....

 

If not, then I don't understand your point.

 

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[Guest ju.c]

Re: Antivirus Solutions

 

NOD32 is one of the best so if you like it stick with it.

 

The best though, and everyone will have an opinion, is Avira:

 

http://www.avira.com/en/products/index.html

 

 

ju.c

 

 

"Hank Arnold (MVP)" <rasilon@aol.com> wrote in message

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> Phisherman wrote:

>> On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 16:05:46 -0400, "Andrew" <j.doe@nospam.com> wrote:

>>

>>> We're currently running SAV Corporate 10 on our 2003/XP network and really don't want

>>> to shell out the $1500 for new 50 new licenses. Symantec has become increasing more

>>> bloated with each new version to the point where, if I wanted to upgrade to Endpoint

>>> Protection 11, I'd need to upgrade my workstations, and that's not going to happen any

>>> time soon.

>>>

>>> I've been looking into some alternate solutions and wanted some opinions on NOD32.

>>> AVComparatives.org shows it has a high detection rate and there seems to be a lot of

>>> praise coming from IT admins in various forums. I've installed the trial and like it

>>> so far. Uses much less resources than SAV. Anyone had any good or bad experiences

>>> with it.

>>>

>>> Also, does anyone know of any other good products that perform well on 2003/XP?

>>>

>>> Thanks,

>>> Andrew

>>

>>

>> I've found that using different anti-virus applications is very

>> effective against a network attack and detection, with a slight

>> incease in maintenance. I'd stick with the top 5 rated products. The

>> $30 per PC sounds quite reasonable, though.

>

> Are you suggesting running multiple AV software packages on the same computer/server?

> This, AFAIK, is a very bad idea....

>

> If not, then I don't understand your point.

>

> --

>

> Regards,

> Hank Arnold

> Microsoft MVP

> Windows Server - Directory Services