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Guest 98 Guy Posted September 10, 2008 Posted September 10, 2008 Re: buy disposable contact lenses online2 So - Are the paths forged? Or are these posts originating from the Microsoft NNTP servers? --------------------------------- Message-ID: <BQRickqwe.30cc780@news.win98banter.com> Organization: Win98banter.com X-Originating-IP: 195.248.184.115 Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion NNTP-Posting-Host: s15244360.onlinehome-server.info 87.106.71.77 Path: aioe.org news.k-dsl.de newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de t-online.de --> TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl --> TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl --> TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl
Guest FromTheRafters Posted September 10, 2008 Posted September 10, 2008 Re: buy disposable contact lenses online2 Posts originate from clients, not servers. "98 Guy" <98@Guy.com> wrote in message news:48C71B7D.F3B8EDD5@Guy.com... > So - > > Are the paths forged? > > Or are these posts originating from the Microsoft NNTP servers? > > --------------------------------- > > Message-ID: <BQRickqwe.30cc780@news.win98banter.com> > Organization: Win98banter.com > X-Originating-IP: 195.248.184.115 > Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion > NNTP-Posting-Host: s15244360.onlinehome-server.info 87.106.71.77 > > Path: > > aioe.org > news.k-dsl.de > newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de > t-online.de > --> TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl > --> TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl > --> TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl
Guest 98 Guy Posted September 10, 2008 Posted September 10, 2008 Re: buy disposable contact lenses online2 FromTheRafters wrote: > Posts originate from clients, not servers. Let me rephrase that, because you apparently did not understand the question. Are they being posted to usenet via the Microsoft NNTP servers, or is the path forged? > > Path: > > > > aioe.org > > news.k-dsl.de > > newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de > > t-online.de > > --> TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl > > --> TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl > > --> TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl
Guest Tim Slattery Posted September 10, 2008 Posted September 10, 2008 Re: buy disposable contact lenses online2 98 Guy <98@Guy.com> wrote: >Are they being posted to usenet via the Microsoft NNTP servers, or is >the path forged? Lots of us post directly to the MS servers at msnews.microsoft.com, that's the preferred way to get here. The spammer is no doubt doing the same thing. -- Tim Slattery MS MVP(Shell/User) Slattery_T@bls.gov http://members.cox.net/slatteryt
Guest Dan Posted September 10, 2008 Posted September 10, 2008 Re: spam from win98banter site? Re: spam from win98banter site? 98 Guy, the spam appear to be originating from this web-site and whether or not win98banter is a pawn and being used as an illegal site from another site to post unto this newsgroup is currently unknown. I will post back if I discover anything else. http://www.win98banter.com/ "98 Guy" wrote: > FromTheRafters wrote: > > > Posts originate from clients, not servers. > > Let me rephrase that, because you apparently did not understand the > question. > > Are they being posted to usenet via the Microsoft NNTP servers, or is > the path forged? > > > > Path: > > > > > > aioe.org > > > news.k-dsl.de > > > newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de > > > t-online.de > > > --> TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl > > > --> TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl > > > --> TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl >
Guest Dan Posted September 10, 2008 Posted September 10, 2008 Re: buy disposable contact lenses online2 Thanks for your thoughts on this also, Tim. "Tim Slattery" wrote: > 98 Guy <98@Guy.com> wrote: > > >Are they being posted to usenet via the Microsoft NNTP servers, or is > >the path forged? > > Lots of us post directly to the MS servers at msnews.microsoft.com, > that's the preferred way to get here. The spammer is no doubt doing > the same thing. > > -- > Tim Slattery > MS MVP(Shell/User) > Slattery_T@bls.gov > http://members.cox.net/slatteryt >
Guest FromTheRafters Posted September 10, 2008 Posted September 10, 2008 Re: buy disposable contact lenses online2 "98 Guy" <98@Guy.com> wrote in message news:48C74F8F.B1948554@Guy.com... > FromTheRafters wrote: > >> Posts originate from clients, not servers. > > Let me rephrase that, because you apparently did not understand the > question. I understood perfectly, it is you that asked the wrong question. > Are they being posted to usenet via the Microsoft NNTP servers, or is > the path forged? I'm reading some spam as downloaded from the Microsoft servers, so it is likely that you have read some that came through them. The one referenced in your header did not appear in my newsreader - but that doesn't mean it wasn't on MS's servers previously at some point in time.
Guest Dan Posted September 10, 2008 Posted September 10, 2008 Re: buy disposable contact lenses online2 That is one of the advantages or disadvantages if you will of using the web based interface like I do and the only reason I continue to do so is for Gary S. Terhune's benefit so he can block me and because I have been a lier in the past by posting using Art Wilder's computer and so I was not honest in explaining that I am Dan W. <smile> "FromTheRafters" wrote: > > "98 Guy" <98@Guy.com> wrote in message news:48C74F8F.B1948554@Guy.com... > > FromTheRafters wrote: > > > >> Posts originate from clients, not servers. > > > > Let me rephrase that, because you apparently did not understand the > > question. > > I understood perfectly, it is you that asked the wrong > question. > > > Are they being posted to usenet via the Microsoft NNTP servers, or is > > the path forged? > > I'm reading some spam as downloaded from the Microsoft > servers, so it is likely that you have read some that came > through them. The one referenced in your header did not > appear in my newsreader - but that doesn't mean it wasn't > on MS's servers previously at some point in time. > > >
Guest ~BD~ Posted September 10, 2008 Posted September 10, 2008 Re: buy disposable contact lenses online2 "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:BA81457F-A7A6-4AD6-BD91-381887071026@microsoft.com... > That is one of the advantages or disadvantages if you will of using the web > based interface like I do and the only reason I continue to do so is for Gary > S. Terhune's benefit so he can block me and because I have been a lier in the > past by posting using Art Wilder's computer and so I was not honest in > explaining that I am Dan W. <smile> <snip> It's quite amazing what one can find on the 'net! Here's a 'reminder' of your past, Dan! <smiling> no agro intended! http://www.win98banter.com/showpost.php?p=100149&postcount=44 Dave
Guest Dan Posted September 10, 2008 Posted September 10, 2008 Re: buy disposable contact lenses online2 Thanks BD. I certainly got my just consequence with my identity being stolen in September 2007 after the APS Network was hacked and I was linked via VPN Networking. The interesting thing is the hacker(s)(?) broke through the Albuquerque Public School Network and were probably just looking for vulnerable computers and hacked into mine that was fully updated with Windows Firewall enabled with no exceptions and with a LinkSys Router. My guess is that it was former employees that had been fired from APS and were bitter. I worked with Stephanie the Network Administrator at the elementary school to fix the network. This was from September 2006-October 2007. I am just thankful now that I am still alive and breathing. Art Wilder already knows that I posted on his computer in Tucson, Arizona and all is now forgiven. You do indeed reap what you sow at least in the end and fortunately it happened to me sooner than later and I got my just consequences but I trust that all will be taken care of in the end. "~BD~" wrote: > > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:BA81457F-A7A6-4AD6-BD91-381887071026@microsoft.com... > > That is one of the advantages or disadvantages if you will of using the web > > based interface like I do and the only reason I continue to do so is for Gary > > S. Terhune's benefit so he can block me and because I have been a lier in the > > past by posting using Art Wilder's computer and so I was not honest in > > explaining that I am Dan W. <smile> > <snip> > > It's quite amazing what one can find on the 'net! > > Here's a 'reminder' of your past, Dan! <smiling> no agro intended! > > http://www.win98banter.com/showpost.php?p=100149&postcount=44 > > Dave > > >
Guest ~BD~ Posted September 10, 2008 Posted September 10, 2008 Re: buy disposable contact lenses online2 No worries, Dan! :) Dave -- "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:DF5D5761-43AF-49F7-BDF3-26AACBAF59FB@microsoft.com... > Thanks BD. I certainly got my just consequence with my identity being stolen > in September 2007 after the APS Network was hacked and I was linked via VPN > Networking. The interesting thing is the hacker(s)(?) broke through the > Albuquerque Public School Network and were probably just looking for > vulnerable computers and hacked into mine that was fully updated with Windows > Firewall enabled with no exceptions and with a LinkSys Router. My guess is > that it was former employees that had been fired from APS and were bitter. I > worked with Stephanie the Network Administrator at the elementary school to > fix the network. This was from September 2006-October 2007. I am just > thankful now that I am still alive and breathing. Art Wilder already knows > that I posted on his computer in Tucson, Arizona and all is now forgiven. > You do indeed reap what you sow at least in the end and fortunately it > happened to me sooner than later and I got my just consequences but I trust > that all will be taken care of in the end. <snip>
Guest 98 Guy Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 Re: buy disposable contact lenses online2 Tim Slattery wrote: > 98 Guy <98@Guy.com> wrote: > > > Are they being posted to usenet via the Microsoft NNTP servers, > > or is the path forged? > > Lots of us post directly to the MS servers at > msnews.microsoft.com, That was not the question. > that's the preferred way to get here. The use of an NNTP client that connects to an NNTP server with good peering is the preferred way to post to usenet. The Microsoft NNTP server(s) are no better than most other NNTP servers when it comes to posting and reading the microsoft hierarchy of groups. The Microsoft NNTP server is arguably worse than others because (a) it only carries the microsoft groups, (b) some censoring is performed, and © spam filtering is either poor or non-existant. > The spammer is no doubt doing the same thing. If you mean that the spammer is posting through the microsoft servers, that does not seem to be the case: ------------- Message-ID: <BQRickqwe.30cc780@news.win98banter.com> Organization: Win98banter.com X-Originating-IP: 195.248.184.115 Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion NNTP-Posting-Host: s15244360.onlinehome-server.info 87.106.71.77 ------------ I could be wrong, but I don't think that real posts via the Microsoft server(s) contain the "X-Originating-IP" line. Most of these spams also have "msrtrans" in the path immediately after the Microsoft servers. Anyone know who belongs to that machine?
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