Guest _Who Posted September 12, 2008 Posted September 12, 2008 60 C:\$Extend\$UsnJrnl:$J:$DATA 1 C:\$LogFile 1 C:\$Bitmap 1 C:\$Boot 1 C:\$MFTMirr 1 C:\$MFT::$BITMAP Should I be concerned that C:\$Extend\$UsnJrnl:$J:$DATA has 60 fragments? And that the others have 1? If so, how can I defrag them. Thanks
Guest Jim Posted September 12, 2008 Posted September 12, 2008 Re: What is C:\$Extend\$UsnJrnl:$J:$DATA "_Who" <CalWhoNOSPAN@roadrunner.com> wrote in message news:%231D0NNHFJHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > 60 C:\$Extend\$UsnJrnl:$J:$DATA > 1 C:\$LogFile > 1 C:\$Bitmap > 1 C:\$Boot > 1 C:\$MFTMirr > 1 C:\$MFT::$BITMAP > > > Should I be concerned that C:\$Extend\$UsnJrnl:$J:$DATA has 60 fragments? > And that the others have 1? > > If so, how can I defrag them. > > > Thanks > I would be much more concerned about knowing which program created these folders. I would also wonder what purpose the contents of the folders serve. There are problably lots of other things about them which are cause for concern. The last of these things is whether they need defragmentation or not. Jim
Guest _Who Posted September 12, 2008 Posted September 12, 2008 Re: What is C:\$Extend\$UsnJrnl:$J:$DATA I assumed they were system files. When I show the folder C:/ they don't show. Got any suggestions? thanks "Jim" <j.n@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:eCiXYSHFJHA.3676@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > "_Who" <CalWhoNOSPAN@roadrunner.com> wrote in message > news:%231D0NNHFJHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> 60 C:\$Extend\$UsnJrnl:$J:$DATA >> 1 C:\$LogFile >> 1 C:\$Bitmap >> 1 C:\$Boot >> 1 C:\$MFTMirr >> 1 C:\$MFT::$BITMAP >> >> >> Should I be concerned that C:\$Extend\$UsnJrnl:$J:$DATA has 60 fragments? >> And that the others have 1? >> >> If so, how can I defrag them. >> >> >> Thanks >> > I would be much more concerned about knowing which program created these > folders. I would also wonder what purpose the contents of the folders > serve. There are problably lots of other things about them which are > cause for concern. The last of these things is whether they need > defragmentation or not. > Jim >
Guest John John (MVP) Posted September 12, 2008 Posted September 12, 2008 Re: What is C:\$Extend\$UsnJrnl:$J:$DATA Jim wrote: > "_Who" <CalWhoNOSPAN@roadrunner.com> wrote in message > news:%231D0NNHFJHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > >>60 C:\$Extend\$UsnJrnl:$J:$DATA >>1 C:\$LogFile >>1 C:\$Bitmap >>1 C:\$Boot >>1 C:\$MFTMirr >>1 C:\$MFT::$BITMAP >> >> >>Should I be concerned that C:\$Extend\$UsnJrnl:$J:$DATA has 60 fragments? >>And that the others have 1? >> >>If so, how can I defrag them. >> >> >>Thanks >> > > I would be much more concerned about knowing which program created these > folders. I would also wonder what purpose the contents of the folders > serve. There are problably lots of other things about them which are cause > for concern. The last of these things is whether they need defragmentation > or not. They're part of the NTFS structure, the $USN Journal is not read or used by Windows but the others are essential to the health and proper operation of the NTFS file system. John
Guest _Who Posted September 12, 2008 Posted September 12, 2008 Re: What is C:\$Extend\$UsnJrnl:$J:$DATA "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message news:OuHwhtHFJHA.3676@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Jim wrote: >> "_Who" <CalWhoNOSPAN@roadrunner.com> wrote in message >> news:%231D0NNHFJHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> >>>60 C:\$Extend\$UsnJrnl:$J:$DATA >>>1 C:\$LogFile >>>1 C:\$Bitmap >>>1 C:\$Boot >>>1 C:\$MFTMirr >>>1 C:\$MFT::$BITMAP >>> >>> >>>Should I be concerned that C:\$Extend\$UsnJrnl:$J:$DATA has 60 fragments? >>>And that the others have 1? >>> >>>If so, how can I defrag them. >>> >>> >>>Thanks >>> >> >> I would be much more concerned about knowing which program created these >> folders. I would also wonder what purpose the contents of the folders >> serve. There are problably lots of other things about them which are >> cause for concern. The last of these things is whether they need >> defragmentation or not. > > They're part of the NTFS structure, the $USN Journal is not read or used > by Windows but the others are essential to the health and proper operation > of the NTFS file system. > > John So it would appear that the fact that $USN Journal is fragmented is not important. The others each have one fragment. Is that worrisome? thanks
Guest John John (MVP) Posted September 12, 2008 Posted September 12, 2008 Re: What is C:\$Extend\$UsnJrnl:$J:$DATA _Who wrote: > "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message > news:OuHwhtHFJHA.3676@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > >>Jim wrote: >> >>>"_Who" <CalWhoNOSPAN@roadrunner.com> wrote in message >>>news:%231D0NNHFJHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> >>> >>>>60 C:\$Extend\$UsnJrnl:$J:$DATA >>>>1 C:\$LogFile >>>>1 C:\$Bitmap >>>>1 C:\$Boot >>>>1 C:\$MFTMirr >>>>1 C:\$MFT::$BITMAP >>>> >>>> >>>>Should I be concerned that C:\$Extend\$UsnJrnl:$J:$DATA has 60 fragments? >>>>And that the others have 1? >>>> >>>>If so, how can I defrag them. >>>> >>>> >>>>Thanks >>>> >>> >>>I would be much more concerned about knowing which program created these >>>folders. I would also wonder what purpose the contents of the folders >>>serve. There are problably lots of other things about them which are >>>cause for concern. The last of these things is whether they need >>>defragmentation or not. >> >>They're part of the NTFS structure, the $USN Journal is not read or used >>by Windows but the others are essential to the health and proper operation >>of the NTFS file system. >> >>John > > > So it would appear that the fact that $USN Journal is fragmented is not > important. > The others each have one fragment. Is that worrisome? > thanks I wouldn't bother too much with it. Windows doesn't use this but other applications use it to keep track of file changes, by default this is disabled on Windows XP installations but any application can turn it on if it needs it. Change Journals http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa363798.aspx On Windows 2000 this journal was enabled by default and the file system driver (ntfs.sys) could not overcome corruption in this file, although infrequent, damage to this file had a pesky little side effect of rendering the disk unreadable and unmountable. Changes were made to the Windows XP file system driver and errors in the journal are ignored by the driver and the disk can be mounted and read even when the journal is corrupted. Creating, Modifying, and Deleting a Change Journal http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa363877(VS.85).aspx Fsutil usn http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc788042.aspx Change Journal Records http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa363803(VS.85).aspx Keeping an Eye on Your NTFS Drives: the Windows 2000 Change Journal Explained http://www.microsoft.com/msj/0999/journal/journal.aspx John
Guest _Who Posted September 12, 2008 Posted September 12, 2008 Re: What is C:\$Extend\$UsnJrnl:$J:$DATA "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message news:uvPwnQIFJHA.5104@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > _Who wrote: > >> "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message >> news:OuHwhtHFJHA.3676@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> >>>Jim wrote: >>> >>>>"_Who" <CalWhoNOSPAN@roadrunner.com> wrote in message >>>>news:%231D0NNHFJHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>> >>>> >>>>>60 C:\$Extend\$UsnJrnl:$J:$DATA >>>>>1 C:\$LogFile >>>>>1 C:\$Bitmap >>>>>1 C:\$Boot >>>>>1 C:\$MFTMirr >>>>>1 C:\$MFT::$BITMAP >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Should I be concerned that C:\$Extend\$UsnJrnl:$J:$DATA has 60 >>>>>fragments? >>>>>And that the others have 1? >>>>> >>>>>If so, how can I defrag them. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Thanks >>>>> >>>> >>>>I would be much more concerned about knowing which program created these >>>>folders. I would also wonder what purpose the contents of the folders >>>>serve. There are problably lots of other things about them which are >>>>cause for concern. The last of these things is whether they need >>>>defragmentation or not. >>> >>>They're part of the NTFS structure, the $USN Journal is not read or used >>>by Windows but the others are essential to the health and proper >>>operation of the NTFS file system. >>> >>>John >> >> >> So it would appear that the fact that $USN Journal is fragmented is not >> important. >> The others each have one fragment. Is that worrisome? >> thanks > > I wouldn't bother too much with it. Windows doesn't use this but other > applications use it to keep track of file changes, by default this is > disabled on Windows XP installations but any application can turn it on if > it needs it. > > Change Journals > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa363798.aspx > > On Windows 2000 this journal was enabled by default and the file system > driver (ntfs.sys) could not overcome corruption in this file, although > infrequent, damage to this file had a pesky little side effect of > rendering the disk unreadable and unmountable. Changes were made to the > Windows XP file system driver and errors in the journal are ignored by the > driver and the disk can be mounted and read even when the journal is > corrupted. > > Creating, Modifying, and Deleting a Change Journal > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa363877(VS.85).aspx > > Fsutil usn > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc788042.aspx > > Change Journal Records > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa363803(VS.85).aspx > > Keeping an Eye on Your NTFS Drives: the Windows 2000 Change Journal > Explained > http://www.microsoft.com/msj/0999/journal/journal.aspx > > John Thanks for the sites.
Guest _Who Posted September 15, 2008 Posted September 15, 2008 Re: What is C:\$Extend\$UsnJrnl:$J:$DATA "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message news:uvPwnQIFJHA.5104@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > _Who wrote: > >> "John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message >> news:OuHwhtHFJHA.3676@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> >>>Jim wrote: >>> >>>>"_Who" <CalWhoNOSPAN@roadrunner.com> wrote in message >>>>news:%231D0NNHFJHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>> >>>> >>>>>60 C:\$Extend\$UsnJrnl:$J:$DATA >>>>>1 C:\$LogFile >>>>>1 C:\$Bitmap >>>>>1 C:\$Boot >>>>>1 C:\$MFTMirr >>>>>1 C:\$MFT::$BITMAP >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Should I be concerned that C:\$Extend\$UsnJrnl:$J:$DATA has 60 >>>>>fragments? >>>>>And that the others have 1? >>>>> >>>>>If so, how can I defrag them. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Thanks >>>>> >>>> >>>>I would be much more concerned about knowing which program created these >>>>folders. I would also wonder what purpose the contents of the folders >>>>serve. There are problably lots of other things about them which are >>>>cause for concern. The last of these things is whether they need >>>>defragmentation or not. >>> >>>They're part of the NTFS structure, the $USN Journal is not read or used >>>by Windows but the others are essential to the health and proper >>>operation of the NTFS file system. >>> >>>John >> >> >> So it would appear that the fact that $USN Journal is fragmented is not >> important. >> The others each have one fragment. Is that worrisome? >> thanks > > I wouldn't bother too much with it. Windows doesn't use this but other > applications use it to keep track of file changes, by default this is > disabled on Windows XP installations but any application can turn it on if > it needs it. > > Change Journals > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa363798.aspx > > On Windows 2000 this journal was enabled by default and the file system > driver (ntfs.sys) could not overcome corruption in this file, although > infrequent, damage to this file had a pesky little side effect of > rendering the disk unreadable and unmountable. Changes were made to the > Windows XP file system driver and errors in the journal are ignored by the > driver and the disk can be mounted and read even when the journal is > corrupted. > > Creating, Modifying, and Deleting a Change Journal > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa363877(VS.85).aspx > > Fsutil usn > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc788042.aspx > > Change Journal Records > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa363803(VS.85).aspx > > Keeping an Eye on Your NTFS Drives: the Windows 2000 Change Journal > Explained > http://www.microsoft.com/msj/0999/journal/journal.aspx > > John Guess there are hidden and REALY HIDDEN files' The following produces some names but not the ones we've discussed. dir /s/a:h C:\*$*
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