Guest David F Posted September 12, 2008 Posted September 12, 2008 I am currently running WS 2008 32-bit on my laptop as a workstation (I'm using PerformancePoint Server 2007 whiich only works on a MS Server OS) and when I use msinfo32.exe it says there is 3.93 GB Total Physical Memory (as opposed to 4 GB Installed Physical Memory). So this means that almost all 4 GB of RAM is available to WS 2008 32-bit. Is that correct? That compares with 3 to 3.5 GB that is available to MS Vista installations. Correct? TIA
Guest Masterplan Posted September 12, 2008 Posted September 12, 2008 RE: WS 2008 32-bit MAX Usable RAM? Hi David, For Windows Server 2008 32 bit Standard the limit is 4 GB. Here are the details: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa366778.aspx#physical_memory_limits_windows_server_2008 -- Have a nice day! http://winmasterplan.blogspot.com "David F" wrote: > I am currently running WS 2008 32-bit on my laptop as a workstation (I'm > using PerformancePoint Server 2007 whiich only works on a MS Server OS) and > when I use msinfo32.exe it says there is 3.93 GB Total Physical Memory (as > opposed to 4 GB Installed Physical Memory). So this means that almost all 4 > GB of RAM is available to WS 2008 32-bit. Is that correct? > > That compares with 3 to 3.5 GB that is available to MS Vista installations. > Correct? TIA >
Guest Frankster Posted September 12, 2008 Posted September 12, 2008 Re: WS 2008 32-bit MAX Usable RAM? "David F" <abcde@gmail.com> wrote in message news:35A32889-479F-4484-9DD1-55A6F115D72E@microsoft.com... >I am currently running WS 2008 32-bit on my laptop as a workstation (I'm >using PerformancePoint Server 2007 whiich only works on a MS Server OS) and >when I use msinfo32.exe it says there is 3.93 GB Total Physical Memory (as >opposed to 4 GB Installed Physical Memory). So this means that almost all >4 GB of RAM is available to WS 2008 32-bit. Is that correct? > > That compares with 3 to 3.5 GB that is available to MS Vista > installations. Correct? TIA Not correct. The 32-bit limit of 3GB for direct memory access still applies. After SP 1 for Vista, and WS2008 I presume, the POST bootup/BIOS was read to allow a "DISPLAY" of the total amount of memory installed. But this was just a cosmetic change to appease those who didn't understand why it was only showing 3GB when they had 4 installed. -Frank
Guest Frankster Posted September 12, 2008 Posted September 12, 2008 Re: WS 2008 32-bit MAX Usable RAM? "Frankster" <frank@SPAM2TRASH.com> wrote in message news:LL-dnXi17bEM91fVnZ2dnUVZ_uKdnZ2d@giganews.com... > > "David F" <abcde@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:35A32889-479F-4484-9DD1-55A6F115D72E@microsoft.com... >>I am currently running WS 2008 32-bit on my laptop as a workstation (I'm >>using PerformancePoint Server 2007 whiich only works on a MS Server OS) >>and when I use msinfo32.exe it says there is 3.93 GB Total Physical Memory >>(as opposed to 4 GB Installed Physical Memory). So this means that almost >>all 4 GB of RAM is available to WS 2008 32-bit. Is that correct? >> >> That compares with 3 to 3.5 GB that is available to MS Vista >> installations. Correct? TIA > > Not correct. The 32-bit limit of 3GB for direct memory access still > applies. After SP 1 for Vista, and WS2008 I presume, the POST bootup/BIOS > was read to allow a "DISPLAY" of the total amount of memory installed. But > this was just a cosmetic change to appease those who didn't understand why > it was only showing 3GB when they had 4 installed. > > -Frank WHOOPS....! Damn! I guess I was wrong again :) Happened once before too LOL... Anyway, Masterplan's links tell all. -Frank
Guest David F Posted September 12, 2008 Posted September 12, 2008 Re: WS 2008 32-bit MAX Usable RAM? Actually, when I've asked people that Run Vista 32-bit to run msinfo32.exe they say it only shows either 3GB or 3.5 GB as opposed to mine showing 3.93 GB which my WS 2008 32-bit shows. Could someone really run the msinfo32.exe under Vista and explain this to me why msinfo32.exe shows different values for Vista and WS 2008 32-bit versions? Perhaps an "MVP" expert could comment on this? It is possible that WS2008 was fixed up to have more RAM available? TIA "Frankster" <frank@SPAM2TRASH.com> wrote in message news:LL-dnXi17bEM91fVnZ2dnUVZ_uKdnZ2d@giganews.com... > > "David F" <abcde@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:35A32889-479F-4484-9DD1-55A6F115D72E@microsoft.com... >>I am currently running WS 2008 32-bit on my laptop as a workstation (I'm >>using PerformancePoint Server 2007 whiich only works on a MS Server OS) >>and when I use msinfo32.exe it says there is 3.93 GB Total Physical Memory >>(as opposed to 4 GB Installed Physical Memory). So this means that almost >>all 4 GB of RAM is available to WS 2008 32-bit. Is that correct? >> >> That compares with 3 to 3.5 GB that is available to MS Vista >> installations. Correct? TIA > > Not correct. The 32-bit limit of 3GB for direct memory access still > applies. After SP 1 for Vista, and WS2008 I presume, the POST bootup/BIOS > was read to allow a "DISPLAY" of the total amount of memory installed. But > this was just a cosmetic change to appease those who didn't understand why > it was only showing 3GB when they had 4 installed. > > -Frank
Guest Masterplan Posted September 12, 2008 Posted September 12, 2008 Re: WS 2008 32-bit MAX Usable RAM? Hi again, This is the explanation: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929605 -- Have a nice day! http://winmasterplan.blogspot.com "David F" wrote: > Actually, when I've asked people that Run Vista 32-bit to run msinfo32.exe > they say it only shows either 3GB or 3.5 GB as opposed to mine showing 3.93 > GB which my WS 2008 32-bit shows. > Could someone really run the msinfo32.exe under Vista and explain this to me > why msinfo32.exe shows different values for Vista and WS 2008 32-bit > versions? Perhaps an "MVP" expert could comment on this? It is possible > that WS2008 was fixed up to have more RAM available? TIA > > > "Frankster" <frank@SPAM2TRASH.com> wrote in message > news:LL-dnXi17bEM91fVnZ2dnUVZ_uKdnZ2d@giganews.com... > > > > "David F" <abcde@gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:35A32889-479F-4484-9DD1-55A6F115D72E@microsoft.com... > >>I am currently running WS 2008 32-bit on my laptop as a workstation (I'm > >>using PerformancePoint Server 2007 whiich only works on a MS Server OS) > >>and when I use msinfo32.exe it says there is 3.93 GB Total Physical Memory > >>(as opposed to 4 GB Installed Physical Memory). So this means that almost > >>all 4 GB of RAM is available to WS 2008 32-bit. Is that correct? > >> > >> That compares with 3 to 3.5 GB that is available to MS Vista > >> installations. Correct? TIA > > > > Not correct. The 32-bit limit of 3GB for direct memory access still > > applies. After SP 1 for Vista, and WS2008 I presume, the POST bootup/BIOS > > was read to allow a "DISPLAY" of the total amount of memory installed. But > > this was just a cosmetic change to appease those who didn't understand why > > it was only showing 3GB when they had 4 installed. > > > > -Frank > >
Guest David F Posted September 12, 2008 Posted September 12, 2008 Re: WS 2008 32-bit MAX Usable RAM? Thank you, Masterplan, but I'm asking about WS 2008 and the KB 929605 only applies to Vista. Could someone please answer why I'm seeing 3.93 GB in msinfo32.exe with WS 2008 when people using Vista only see about 3 or 3.5 GB when using msinfo32.exe? TIA "Masterplan" <winmasterplan@gmail.com.> wrote in message news:B6AF0BF2-4D49-45A0-830E-9E69C9443F5F@microsoft.com... > Hi again, > > This is the explanation: > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929605 > > -- > Have a nice day! > > http://winmasterplan.blogspot.com > > > "David F" wrote: > >> Actually, when I've asked people that Run Vista 32-bit to run >> msinfo32.exe >> they say it only shows either 3GB or 3.5 GB as opposed to mine showing >> 3.93 >> GB which my WS 2008 32-bit shows. >> Could someone really run the msinfo32.exe under Vista and explain this to >> me >> why msinfo32.exe shows different values for Vista and WS 2008 32-bit >> versions? Perhaps an "MVP" expert could comment on this? It is possible >> that WS2008 was fixed up to have more RAM available? TIA >> >> >> "Frankster" <frank@SPAM2TRASH.com> wrote in message >> news:LL-dnXi17bEM91fVnZ2dnUVZ_uKdnZ2d@giganews.com... >> > >> > "David F" <abcde@gmail.com> wrote in message >> > news:35A32889-479F-4484-9DD1-55A6F115D72E@microsoft.com... >> >>I am currently running WS 2008 32-bit on my laptop as a workstation >> >>(I'm >> >>using PerformancePoint Server 2007 whiich only works on a MS Server OS) >> >>and when I use msinfo32.exe it says there is 3.93 GB Total Physical >> >>Memory >> >>(as opposed to 4 GB Installed Physical Memory). So this means that >> >>almost >> >>all 4 GB of RAM is available to WS 2008 32-bit. Is that correct? >> >> >> >> That compares with 3 to 3.5 GB that is available to MS Vista >> >> installations. Correct? TIA >> > >> > Not correct. The 32-bit limit of 3GB for direct memory access still >> > applies. After SP 1 for Vista, and WS2008 I presume, the POST >> > bootup/BIOS >> > was read to allow a "DISPLAY" of the total amount of memory installed. >> > But >> > this was just a cosmetic change to appease those who didn't understand >> > why >> > it was only showing 3GB when they had 4 installed. >> > >> > -Frank >> >>
Guest Darrell Gorter[MSFT] Posted September 13, 2008 Posted September 13, 2008 Re: WS 2008 32-bit MAX Usable RAM? Hello David, PAE support in server. Which allows for more addressing space. This allows you to see the 4 gig of physical RAM in server depending on the hardware(plus depending on the drivers) which may or may not support relocation. The client is limited to 4 gig of address space. Thanks, Darrell Gorter[MSFT] This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights -------------------- | >From: "David F" <abcde@gmail.com> | >References: <35A32889-479F-4484-9DD1-55A6F115D72E@microsoft.com> <LL-dnXi17bEM91fVnZ2dnUVZ_uKdnZ2d@giganews.com> <egPO2nNFJHA.1272@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl> <B6AF0BF2-4D49-45A0-830E-9E69C9443F5F@microsoft.com> | >In-Reply-To: <B6AF0BF2-4D49-45A0-830E-9E69C9443F5F@microsoft.com> | >Subject: Re: WS 2008 32-bit MAX Usable RAM? | >Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 17:23:29 +0300 | >Lines: 64 | >Message-ID: <644C19D8-18A1-48D0-A760-393254721980@microsoft.com> | >MIME-Version: 1.0 | >Content-Type: text/plain; | > format=flowed; | > charset="utf-8"; | > reply-type=original | >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit | >X-Priority: 3 | >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal | >X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 | >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 | >X-MS-CommunityGroup-PostID: {644C19D8-18A1-48D0-A760-393254721980} | >X-MS-CommunityGroup-ThreadID: 35A32889-479F-4484-9DD1-55A6F115D72E | >X-MS-CommunityGroup-ParentID: B6AF0BF2-4D49-45A0-830E-9E69C9443F5F | >Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.general | >Path: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl | >Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl microsoft.public.windows.server.general:44701 | >NNTP-Posting-Host: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl 127.0.0.1 | >X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.server.general | > | >Thank you, Masterplan, but I'm asking about WS 2008 and the KB 929605 only | >applies to Vista. Could someone please answer why I'm seeing 3.93 GB in | >msinfo32.exe with WS 2008 when people using Vista only see about 3 or 3.5 GB | >when using msinfo32.exe? TIA | > | > | > | >"Masterplan" <winmasterplan@gmail.com.> wrote in message | >news:B6AF0BF2-4D49-45A0-830E-9E69C9443F5F@microsoft.com... | >> Hi again, | >> | >> This is the explanation: | >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929605 | >> | >> -- | >> Have a nice day! | >> | >> http://winmasterplan.blogspot.com | >> | >> | >> "David F" wrote: | >> | >>> Actually, when I've asked people that Run Vista 32-bit to run | >>> msinfo32.exe | >>> they say it only shows either 3GB or 3.5 GB as opposed to mine showing | >>> 3.93 | >>> GB which my WS 2008 32-bit shows. | >>> Could someone really run the msinfo32.exe under Vista and explain this to | >>> me | >>> why msinfo32.exe shows different values for Vista and WS 2008 32-bit | >>> versions? Perhaps an "MVP" expert could comment on this? It is possible | >>> that WS2008 was fixed up to have more RAM available? TIA | >>> | >>> | >>> "Frankster" <frank@SPAM2TRASH.com> wrote in message | >>> news:LL-dnXi17bEM91fVnZ2dnUVZ_uKdnZ2d@giganews.com... | >>> > | >>> > "David F" <abcde@gmail.com> wrote in message | >>> > news:35A32889-479F-4484-9DD1-55A6F115D72E@microsoft.com... | >>> >>I am currently running WS 2008 32-bit on my laptop as a workstation | >>> >>(I'm | >>> >>using PerformancePoint Server 2007 whiich only works on a MS Server OS) | >>> >>and when I use msinfo32.exe it says there is 3.93 GB Total Physical | >>> >>Memory | >>> >>(as opposed to 4 GB Installed Physical Memory). So this means that | >>> >>almost | >>> >>all 4 GB of RAM is available to WS 2008 32-bit. Is that correct? | >>> >> | >>> >> That compares with 3 to 3.5 GB that is available to MS Vista | >>> >> installations. Correct? TIA | >>> > | >>> > Not correct. The 32-bit limit of 3GB for direct memory access still | >>> > applies. After SP 1 for Vista, and WS2008 I presume, the POST | >>> > bootup/BIOS | >>> > was read to allow a "DISPLAY" of the total amount of memory installed. | >>> > But | >>> > this was just a cosmetic change to appease those who didn't understand | >>> > why | >>> > it was only showing 3GB when they had 4 installed. | >>> > | >>> > -Frank | >>> | >>> | > | >
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