Guest Dan Posted September 12, 2008 Posted September 12, 2008 It looks like the end of life for Windows 98 Second Edition will be coming sooner than later sadly enough despite the fact that 98 Second Edition survived the attack in September 2007 when I was connected to the Albuquerque Public School Network via Virtual Private Networking and a fully updated Windows XP Professional was toast aka in this case annihilated. Yes, this news is now a year old but more critical than ever. Fortunately, Microsoft is now getting a clue and developing a new source code but it is very secretive of course due to Intellectual Property concerns and of course Microsoft does not want to take away from sales of Windows 7 which will have new and exciting features but still at its root and core is NT. Yes, I know lots of the code has been updated and improved but the underlying security and safety has been weakened. If you research at secunia.com you will see that Windows NT 4 and Windows 98 Second Edition are about the same but in terms of functionality like USB 2.x with 3rd party support, 98 Second Edition is the best. Anyway, my post today is about how Mozilla Firefox 2.x is slated for end of year to terminate support. Now sadly Sun Java is in transition to end support of Sun Java 5 which is scheduled for 30 October 2009 currently. So, there are 2 main dates now in play of December 2008 for Mozilla Firefox 2.x and October 30, 2009 for Sun Java. It appears that using Windows 98 Second Edition for 'Net Acess will bear increased risks at the end of 2009 and into 2010. The solution appears to me to be now to build up your external security with the appropriate hardware router, software like Spywareblaster which imo is currently awesome, minimize use of IE 6 and expect denial of service errors with continued use of IE 6 but you can indeed try to apply patches from Windows 2000 by breaking them down and applying them as 98 Guy mentioned in the past and it does work but the question is at what cost to IE browsers effectiveness. I would appreciate your comments on this post and what are your thoughts in safeguarding 98 Second Edition on the 'Net today and in the future and please no time to update to Windows XP or Vista or Ubuntu Linux since I currently extensively use XP and to a lesser extent Vista on my laptop. Finally, I am now beta testing IE 8 because of all the problems I had with Internet Explorer *.dll hell and removed and clean installed Mozilla Firefox 2.x then updated to Mozilla Firefox 2.0.0.16 right away and that seems to have taken care of my needs for now but because of its stability and especially backwards compatibility and a fairly full fledged MS-DOS I will continue to use 98 Second Edition with my 512 megabytes of ram on an Intel Pentium 4 dual-core chip that XP recognizes but 98 SE only recognizes the single core which is fine because I don't need to use the dual core abilities in 98 Second Edition because it is so fast. This is definitely why being able to fully customize and working on your machine rules. Please keep me in your thoughts and prayers for my attempted shot at A+ certification soon. I have not passed it yet but of course have taken some computer courses, read lots of computer magazines, tested stuff myself, (usually on my own machine at the cost of the machine -- kinda of reminds me of Gary but I am sure not as many times as him) and lots of Microsoft articles as well as other technical articles. I am no expert and do not claim to be one and only want to offer a voice to the average consumer because of the force feeding the way I see it of trying to be told that the Microsoft NT like 2000, XP and Vista are the only way when there is old school 98 Second Edition and Ubuntu Linux out there as well as many other options but those are my current 2 favorite operating systems.
Guest PA Bear [MS MVP] Posted September 12, 2008 Posted September 12, 2008 Re: End of Life for Windows 98 Second Edition 3rd party support soon http://zapatopi.net/afdb/ -- ~PAÞ Dan wrote: > It looks like the end of life for Windows 98 Second Edition will be coming > sooner than later sadly enough despite the fact that 98 Second Edition > survived the attack in September 2007 when I was connected to the > Albuquerque Public School Network via Virtual Private Networking and a > fully updated Windows XP Professional was toast aka in this case > annihilated...
Guest PCR Posted September 12, 2008 Posted September 12, 2008 Re: End of Life for Windows 98 Second Edition 3rd party support soon PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: | http://zapatopi.net/afdb/ [ROTFL]. I like that model-- it has a nice glow! | -- | ~PAÞ | | Dan wrote: |> It looks like the end of life for Windows 98 Second Edition will be |> coming sooner than later sadly enough despite the fact that 98 |> Second Edition survived the attack in September 2007 when I was |> connected to the Albuquerque Public School Network via Virtual |> Private Networking and a fully updated Windows XP Professional was |> toast aka in this case annihilated... -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net
Guest Dan Posted September 13, 2008 Posted September 13, 2008 Re: End of Life for Windows 98 Second Edition 3rd party support so Re: End of Life for Windows 98 Second Edition 3rd party support so LOL, Thanks Robear. <smile> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: > http://zapatopi.net/afdb/ > -- > ~PAÞ > > Dan wrote: > > It looks like the end of life for Windows 98 Second Edition will be coming > > sooner than later sadly enough despite the fact that 98 Second Edition > > survived the attack in September 2007 when I was connected to the > > Albuquerque Public School Network via Virtual Private Networking and a > > fully updated Windows XP Professional was toast aka in this case > > annihilated... > >
Guest letterman@invalid.com Posted September 15, 2008 Posted September 15, 2008 Re: End of Life for Windows 98 Second Edition 3rd party support soon On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 08:21:01 -0700, Dan <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >It looks like the end of life for Windows 98 Second Edition will be coming >sooner than later sadly enough despite the fact that 98 Second Edition >survived the attack in September 2007 when I was connected to the Albuquerque >Public School Network via Virtual Private Networking and a fully updated >Windows XP Professional was toast aka in this case annihilated. Yes, this >news is now a year old but more critical than ever. Fortunately, Microsoft >is now getting a clue and developing a new source code but it is very I actually feel safer using Win98, than I would using XP or Vista. Nobody writes viruses for Win98 anymore........ Their target is XP and Vista. I dont use any firewalls, or active virus scanners. I use IE5.5. I have never gotten a virus using Win98. I manually scan for viruses every few weeks, that's it. On the other hand, I have gotten spyware, but I dont think anyone can avoid that no matter what OS they use.
Guest Dan Posted September 15, 2008 Posted September 15, 2008 Re: End of Life for Windows 98 Second Edition 3rd party support so Re: End of Life for Windows 98 Second Edition 3rd party support so Have you used Spywareblaster and kept it updated as well as other anti-spyware tools, letterman? "letterman@invalid.com" wrote: > On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 08:21:01 -0700, Dan > <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > >It looks like the end of life for Windows 98 Second Edition will be coming > >sooner than later sadly enough despite the fact that 98 Second Edition > >survived the attack in September 2007 when I was connected to the Albuquerque > >Public School Network via Virtual Private Networking and a fully updated > >Windows XP Professional was toast aka in this case annihilated. Yes, this > >news is now a year old but more critical than ever. Fortunately, Microsoft > >is now getting a clue and developing a new source code but it is very > > I actually feel safer using Win98, than I would using XP or Vista. > Nobody writes viruses for Win98 anymore........ > Their target is XP and Vista. > I dont use any firewalls, or active virus scanners. I use IE5.5. > I have never gotten a virus using Win98. > I manually scan for viruses every few weeks, that's it. > > On the other hand, I have gotten spyware, but I dont think anyone can > avoid that no matter what OS they use. >
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