Guest Mike M Posted September 19, 2008 Posted September 19, 2008 Re: Antivirus >>> TO: MIKE M. Re: Antivirus >>> TO: MIKE M. What applications and utilities do you have being launched each time you boot? It would appear that one of these may be interfering with system restore, this being a particular problem with the version of system restore that forms part of Win Me in that it is more susceptible to interference from third party apps than the more developed later versions that form part of XP and now Vista. Either that or it is an application or utility that you run, but not all the time that is causing the problem. Can you determine whether there is any consistency between running a particular application and you then having problems with system restore? The message saying that you need to reboot suggests that SR might "believe" that an installation is underway and needs to be completed by rebooting before it can create a checkpoint. Check whether a copy of wininit.ini is present in the Windows folder when you see the reboot message. -- Mike Maltby mike.maltby@gmail.com SGB <NoEmail@ThisAddress.com> wrote: > Wanted to add... > The program simply will not open at times. > Error message reads I must reboot.
Guest SGB Posted September 20, 2008 Posted September 20, 2008 Re: Antivirus >>> TO: MIKE M. Re: Antivirus >>> TO: MIKE M. Nothing in msconfig > Startup is different than before I installed Avast. As far as I can determine there is no consistency when SR stops. When I uninstalled Avast, I went through the registry as well, but feel there is still some setting causing SR to become disabled. The reason I believe something was not removed is I restored my computer to the day before I installed Avast. I do see wininit.ini present in the Windows folder. I never had a problem with SR until I installed and uninstalled Avast. I wish I could figure out what may be lagging behind after the uninstall. SGB "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message news:uyR%23QYjGJHA.1308@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > What applications and utilities do you have being launched each time you > boot? It would appear that one of these may be interfering with system > restore, this being a particular problem with the version of system > restore that forms part of Win Me in that it is more susceptible to > interference from third party apps than the more developed later versions > that form part of XP and now Vista. Either that or it is an application > or utility that you run, but not all the time that is causing the problem. > Can you determine whether there is any consistency between running a > particular application and you then having problems with system restore? > > The message saying that you need to reboot suggests that SR might > "believe" that an installation is underway and needs to be completed by > rebooting before it can create a checkpoint. Check whether a copy of > wininit.ini is present in the Windows folder when you see the reboot > message. > -- > Mike Maltby > mike.maltby@gmail.com
Guest Mike M Posted September 20, 2008 Posted September 20, 2008 Re: Antivirus >>> TO: MIKE M. Re: Antivirus >>> TO: MIKE M. If you have a wininit.ini file in the Windows folder then that is quite likely the cause of your problem, or rather the application that is generating the wininit.ini file since this is a "one time use" file, that is the instructions it contains are acted on once only, when the system next boots, after which the file is deleted (or renamed to wininit.bak). Whilst the wininit.ini file is present SR will always report that you need to reboot, and therefore act on the wininit.ini file, before it, SR, runs. You need to check why a wininit.ini file is present and what is creating it. Its contents will usually be a guide as it will tell you the name(s) of files usually to be renamed, usually as a part of a delete but perhaps as part of a program update. > I wish I could figure out what may be lagging behind after the > uninstall. I've suggested where to start which incidentally shouldn't be Avast since you have already said you uninstalled this app however if the uninstall was incomplete it may just be the cause. The standard way of correcting an incomplete uninstall being to reinstall the application again and then uninstall. -- Mike Maltby mike.maltby@gmail.com SGB <NoEmail@ThisAddress.com> wrote: > Nothing in msconfig > Startup is different than before I installed > Avast. As far as I can determine there is no consistency when SR > stops. > When I uninstalled Avast, I went through the registry as well, but > feel there is still some setting causing SR to become disabled. The > reason I believe something was not removed is I restored my computer > to the day before I installed Avast. > > I do see wininit.ini present in the Windows folder. > > I never had a problem with SR until I installed and uninstalled Avast. > > I wish I could figure out what may be lagging behind after the > uninstall.
Guest SGB Posted September 21, 2008 Posted September 21, 2008 Re: Antivirus >>> TO: MIKE M. Re: Antivirus >>> TO: MIKE M. I found a consistency. SR becomes disabled after I use CCleaner. After I reboot, SR becomes enabled, again. It has me puzzled, because I never had a problem using CCleaner before the whole Avast application thing. CCleaner never inferred with any application on my system... period. When I run 'Analyze', then 'Run Cleaner' something below causes SR to stop working. Very strange considering all these things were present before I got myself into this #$%&. ANALYSIS COMPLETE - (0.068 secs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- 0.16MB to be removed. (Approximate size) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- Details of files to be deleted (Note: No files have been deleted yet) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- IE Temporary Internet Files (2 files) 8.83KB Marked for deletion: C:\WINDOWS\Profiles\***\Temporary Internet Files\index.dat Marked for deletion: C:\WINDOWS\Profiles\***\Cookies\index.dat Marked for deletion: C:\WINDOWS\Profiles\***\History\index.dat C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\SSUPDATE.EXE 0.15MB C:\WINDOWS\WININIT.BAK 518 bytes C:\WINDOWS\NDISLOG.TXT 0 bytes CLEANING COMPLETE - (0.243 secs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- 0.27MB removed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- Details of files deleted ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- IE Temporary Internet Files (19 files) 0.12MB Marked for deletion: C:\WINDOWS\Profiles\***\Temporary Internet Files\index.dat Marked for deletion: C:\WINDOWS\Profiles\***\Cookies\index.dat Marked for deletion: C:\WINDOWS\Profiles\***\History\index.dat C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\SSUPDATE.EXE 0.15MB C:\WINDOWS\WININIT.BAK 518 bytes C:\WINDOWS\NDISLOG.TXT 0 bytes ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- BTW - the WININIT file is 'C:\WINDOWS\WININIT.EXE'. I deleted it, but I got an error message when I rebooted reading it could not load the .exe file press any key to continue and after the rest loaded, I got a message reading it could not find '/P', so I restored C:\WINDOWS\WININIT.EXE from the recycle bin. I have no idea what that all means. I still have A VAST headache. <eg> Any more help will be greatly appreciated. <begging LOL> SGB P.S. I am concerned about reinstalling Avast and doing another uninstall. No telling what the heck the it will do to my system next time. "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message news:Ob6FQV1GJHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > If you have a wininit.ini file in the Windows folder then that is quite > likely the cause of your problem, or rather the application that is > generating the wininit.ini file since this is a "one time use" file, that > is the instructions it contains are acted on once only, when the system > next boots, after which the file is deleted (or renamed to wininit.bak). > Whilst the wininit.ini file is present SR will always report that you need > to reboot, and therefore act on the wininit.ini file, before it, SR, runs. > > You need to check why a wininit.ini file is present and what is creating > it. Its contents will usually be a guide as it will tell you the name(s) > of files usually to be renamed, usually as a part of a delete but perhaps > as part of a program update. > > > I wish I could figure out what may be lagging behind after the > > uninstall. > > I've suggested where to start which incidentally shouldn't be Avast since > you have already said you uninstalled this app however if the uninstall > was incomplete it may just be the cause. The standard way of correcting > an incomplete uninstall being to reinstall the application again and then > uninstall. > -- > Mike Maltby > mike.maltby@gmail.com
Guest Mike M Posted September 21, 2008 Posted September 21, 2008 Re: Antivirus >>> TO: MIKE M. Re: Antivirus >>> TO: MIKE M. > SR becomes disabled after I use CCleaner. No surprise there then. If you go playing around with the registry then what else do you expect? > BTW - the WININIT file is 'C:\WINDOWS\WININIT.EXE'. I deleted it, but > I got an error message Again no surprises there and exactly what should happen! Why did you try and delete wininit.exe? The file of interest is wininit.ini (and when it had been used wininit.bak) not the exe. > I still have A VAST headache. <eg> Generated I suspect by your use of snake oil and registry cleaners, none of which are required when running Win Me. <vbg> -- Mike Maltby mike.maltby@gmail.com SGB <NoEmail@ThisAddress.com> wrote: > I found a consistency. > SR becomes disabled after I use CCleaner. > After I reboot, SR becomes enabled, again. > It has me puzzled, because I never had a problem using CCleaner > before the whole Avast application thing. > CCleaner never inferred with any application on my system... period. > When I run 'Analyze', then 'Run Cleaner' something below causes SR to > stop working. Very strange considering all these things were present > before I got myself into this #$%&. > > ANALYSIS COMPLETE - (0.068 secs) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------- > 0.16MB to be removed. (Approximate size) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------- > > Details of files to be deleted (Note: No files have been deleted yet) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------- > IE Temporary Internet Files (2 files) 8.83KB > Marked for deletion: C:\WINDOWS\Profiles\***\Temporary Internet > Files\index.dat > Marked for deletion: C:\WINDOWS\Profiles\***\Cookies\index.dat > Marked for deletion: C:\WINDOWS\Profiles\***\History\index.dat > C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\SSUPDATE.EXE 0.15MB > C:\WINDOWS\WININIT.BAK 518 bytes > C:\WINDOWS\NDISLOG.TXT 0 bytes > > CLEANING COMPLETE - (0.243 secs) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------- > 0.27MB removed. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------- > > Details of files deleted > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------- > IE Temporary Internet Files (19 files) 0.12MB > Marked for deletion: C:\WINDOWS\Profiles\***\Temporary Internet > Files\index.dat > Marked for deletion: C:\WINDOWS\Profiles\***\Cookies\index.dat > Marked for deletion: C:\WINDOWS\Profiles\***\History\index.dat > C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\SSUPDATE.EXE 0.15MB > C:\WINDOWS\WININIT.BAK 518 bytes > C:\WINDOWS\NDISLOG.TXT 0 bytes > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------- > > BTW - the WININIT file is 'C:\WINDOWS\WININIT.EXE'. I deleted it, but > I got an > error message when I rebooted reading it could not load the .exe file > press any key to continue and after the rest loaded, I got a message > reading it could not find '/P', so I restored C:\WINDOWS\WININIT.EXE > from the recycle bin. I have no idea what that all means. > > I still have A VAST headache. <eg> > > Any more help will be greatly appreciated. <begging LOL> > > SGB > > P.S. I am concerned about reinstalling Avast and doing another > uninstall. No telling what the heck the it will do to my system next
Guest Mike M Posted September 21, 2008 Posted September 21, 2008 Re: Antivirus >>> TO: MIKE M. Re: Antivirus >>> TO: MIKE M. As I mentioned previously you need to examine the contents of wininit.ini or wininit.bak to establish why this file is being created so frequently. It could, of course, be ccleaner that is creating this file and using it to remove the index.dat files at boot time in which case each time you use ccleaner you won't be able to use SR to restore or create a checkpoint until wininit.ini is processed. > P.S. I am concerned about reinstalling Avast and doing another > uninstall. No telling what the heck the it will do to my system next > time. Paranoia gets no-one anywhere fast. <g> Of course what you do with your system is your business and yours alone but I do have to ask why you feel the need to keep running ccleaner and removing for example the various index.dat files. This is something I feel to be unnecessary or at best something that one might want to do at monthly or even three monthly intervals. For example I haven't knowingly cleared the index.dat files on this system for well over a year when I did so as part of swapping out the hard drive containing the TIF due to the drive showing signs of pending failure. -- Mike Maltby mike.maltby@gmail.com SGB <NoEmail@ThisAddress.com> wrote: > I found a consistency. > SR becomes disabled after I use CCleaner. > After I reboot, SR becomes enabled, again. > It has me puzzled, because I never had a problem using CCleaner > before the whole Avast application thing. > CCleaner never inferred with any application on my system... period. > When I run 'Analyze', then 'Run Cleaner' something below causes SR to > stop working. Very strange considering all these things were present > before I got myself into this #$%&. > > ANALYSIS COMPLETE - (0.068 secs) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------- > 0.16MB to be removed. (Approximate size) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------- > > Details of files to be deleted (Note: No files have been deleted yet) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------- > IE Temporary Internet Files (2 files) 8.83KB > Marked for deletion: C:\WINDOWS\Profiles\***\Temporary Internet > Files\index.dat > Marked for deletion: C:\WINDOWS\Profiles\***\Cookies\index.dat > Marked for deletion: C:\WINDOWS\Profiles\***\History\index.dat > C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\SSUPDATE.EXE 0.15MB > C:\WINDOWS\WININIT.BAK 518 bytes > C:\WINDOWS\NDISLOG.TXT 0 bytes > > CLEANING COMPLETE - (0.243 secs) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------- > 0.27MB removed. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------- > > Details of files deleted > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------- > IE Temporary Internet Files (19 files) 0.12MB > Marked for deletion: C:\WINDOWS\Profiles\***\Temporary Internet > Files\index.dat > Marked for deletion: C:\WINDOWS\Profiles\***\Cookies\index.dat > Marked for deletion: C:\WINDOWS\Profiles\***\History\index.dat > C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\SSUPDATE.EXE 0.15MB > C:\WINDOWS\WININIT.BAK 518 bytes > C:\WINDOWS\NDISLOG.TXT 0 bytes > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------- > > BTW - the WININIT file is 'C:\WINDOWS\WININIT.EXE'. I deleted it, but > I got an > error message when I rebooted reading it could not load the .exe file > press any key to continue and after the rest loaded, I got a message > reading it could not find '/P', so I restored C:\WINDOWS\WININIT.EXE > from the recycle bin. I have no idea what that all means. > > I still have A VAST headache. <eg> > > Any more help will be greatly appreciated. <begging LOL> > > SGB > > P.S. I am concerned about reinstalling Avast and doing another > uninstall. No telling what the heck the it will do to my system next > time.
Guest SGB Posted September 21, 2008 Posted September 21, 2008 Re: Antivirus >>> TO: MIKE M. Re: Antivirus >>> TO: MIKE M. Alrighty then... since that certainly cleared everything up, I should not have a problem fixing my system. Uh??? (scratching head) SGB P.S. "but I do have to ask why you feel the need to keep running ccleaner". Simple. It is like taking a shower, brushing my teeth, wearing clean clothes every day and having a clean, tidy house. <BG> "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message news:OQt3778GJHA.4564@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > As I mentioned previously you need to examine the contents of wininit.ini > or wininit.bak to establish why this file is being created so frequently. > It could, of course, be ccleaner that is creating this file and using it > to remove the index.dat files at boot time in which case each time you use > ccleaner you won't be able to use SR to restore or create a checkpoint > until wininit.ini is processed. > > > P.S. I am concerned about reinstalling Avast and doing another > > uninstall. No telling what the heck the it will do to my system next > > time. > > Paranoia gets no-one anywhere fast. <g> > > Of course what you do with your system is your business and yours alone > but I do have to ask why you feel the need to keep running ccleaner and > removing for example the various index.dat files. This is something I > feel to be unnecessary or at best something that one might want to do at > monthly or even three monthly intervals. For example I haven't knowingly > cleared the index.dat files on this system for well over a year when I did > so as part of swapping out the hard drive containing the TIF due to the > drive showing signs of pending failure. > -- > Mike Maltby > mike.maltby@gmail.com
Guest Mike M Posted September 21, 2008 Posted September 21, 2008 Re: Antivirus >>> TO: MIKE M. Re: Antivirus >>> TO: MIKE M. There is absolutely no comparison between keeping yourself and your house clean and repeatedly and unnecessarily deleting the various Windows index.dat files. That is assuming that you are not trying to hide something but if that was the case, and I'm not suggesting that it is, you would need to do more than simple delete the files to prevent them being read. Repeatedly deleting those files is more like spending 15 minutes washing your hands every time you've touched something rather than your daily ablutions. If the system needed to delete the files to run smoothly then Microsoft would have built in a mechanism to do so just as they have for emptying the TIF or clearing your cookies. However, as I have said before.it's your system and what you do with it is your choice but remember that not all that you do might be to the benefit of the system as illustrated by your current problems with system restore. -- Mike Maltby mike.maltby@gmail.com SGB <NoEmail@ThisAddress.com> wrote: > Alrighty then... since that certainly cleared everything up, I should > not have a problem fixing my system. Uh??? (scratching head) > > SGB > > P.S. "but I do have to ask why you feel the need to keep running > ccleaner". Simple. It is like taking a shower, brushing my teeth, > wearing clean clothes every day and having a clean, tidy house. <BG>
Guest webster72n Posted September 21, 2008 Posted September 21, 2008 Re: Antivirus >>> TO: MIKE M. Re: Antivirus >>> TO: MIKE M. If I may interject this question, Mike, because it is pertinent to the issue: Avast doesn't have anything whatsoever to do with the SR problem SGB is having, does it? Harry. "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message news:uFMpIcCHJHA.1304@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > There is absolutely no comparison between keeping yourself and your house > clean and repeatedly and unnecessarily deleting the various Windows > index.dat files. That is assuming that you are not trying to hide > something but if that was the case, and I'm not suggesting that it is, you > would need to do more than simple delete the files to prevent them being > read. Repeatedly deleting those files is more like spending 15 minutes > washing your hands every time you've touched something rather than your > daily ablutions. If the system needed to delete the files to run smoothly > then Microsoft would have built in a mechanism to do so just as they have > for emptying the TIF or clearing your cookies. However, as I have said > before.it's your system and what you do with it is your choice but > remember that not all that you do might be to the benefit of the system as > illustrated by your current problems with system restore. > -- > Mike Maltby > mike.maltby@gmail.com > > > SGB <NoEmail@ThisAddress.com> wrote: > > > Alrighty then... since that certainly cleared everything up, I should > > not have a problem fixing my system. Uh??? (scratching head) > > > > SGB > > > > P.S. "but I do have to ask why you feel the need to keep running > > ccleaner". Simple. It is like taking a shower, brushing my teeth, > > wearing clean clothes every day and having a clean, tidy house. <BG> >
Guest Mike M Posted September 21, 2008 Posted September 21, 2008 Re: Antivirus >>> TO: MIKE M. Re: Antivirus >>> TO: MIKE M. webster72n <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote: > If I may interject this question, Mike, because it is pertinent to the > issue: > Avast doesn't have anything whatsoever to do with the SR problem SGB > is having, > does it? Harry, Not if Avast! is uninstalled, then no. However SGB seems to think it may not have uninstalled correctly but appears, perhaps not unreasonably, to be reluctant to reinstall Avast! and then remove it just in case the original uninstall didn't complete. I think however the problem is due to the repeated generation of wininit.ini files by ccleaner but those shouldn't disable SR with the loss of checkpoints, just mean that SR cannot be used until after the wininit.ini file has been processed by rebooting, The contents of the wininit.ini file are processed by wininit.exe very early in the boot process before the system is fully loaded and files locked and protected. Once processed the wininit.ini file is renamed wininit.bak. So what is disabling SR and clearing the archive remains a mystery. -- Mike Maltby mike.maltby@gmail.com
Guest webster72n Posted September 21, 2008 Posted September 21, 2008 Re: Antivirus >>> TO: MIKE M. Re: Antivirus >>> TO: MIKE M. "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message news:eODBn8CHJHA.3928@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > webster72n <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote: > > > If I may interject this question, Mike, because it is pertinent to the > > issue: > > Avast doesn't have anything whatsoever to do with the SR problem SGB > > is having, > > does it? > > Harry, > > Not if Avast! is uninstalled, then no. However SGB seems to think it may > not have uninstalled correctly but appears, perhaps not unreasonably, to > be reluctant to reinstall Avast! and then remove it just in case the > original uninstall didn't complete. I think however the problem is due to > the repeated generation of wininit.ini files by ccleaner but those > shouldn't disable SR with the loss of checkpoints, just mean that SR > cannot be used until after the wininit.ini file has been processed by > rebooting, The contents of the wininit.ini file are processed by > wininit.exe very early in the boot process before the system is fully > loaded and files locked and protected. Once processed the wininit.ini > file is renamed wininit.bak. So what is disabling SR and clearing the > archive remains a mystery. In my case it disabled the creation of automatic System CheckPoints, but that's all. Otherwise Avast does a splendid job of protecting my System. I have CCleaner installed also, but use it very sparingly and excluding any registry fixes. Thank you for your explanations, Mike. > -- > Mike Maltby > mike.maltby@gmail.com > >
Guest Mike M Posted September 21, 2008 Posted September 21, 2008 Re: Antivirus >>> TO: MIKE M. Re: Antivirus >>> TO: MIKE M. webster72n <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote: > In my case it disabled the creation of automatic System CheckPoints, > but that's all. That I understand and is what I thought was the case however SGB seems to be saying that it disables SR and clears the archive which I don't understand at all. > Otherwise Avast does a splendid job of protecting my System. > I have CCleaner installed also, but use it very sparingly and > excluding any registry fixes. > Thank you for your explanations, Mike. Cheers, -- Mike Maltby mike.maltby@gmail.com
Guest webster72n Posted September 21, 2008 Posted September 21, 2008 Re: Antivirus >>> TO: MIKE M. Re: Antivirus >>> TO: MIKE M. "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message news:u3eZ8UDHJHA.4408@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > webster72n <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote: > > > In my case it disabled the creation of automatic System CheckPoints, > > but that's all. > > That I understand and is what I thought was the case however SGB seems to > be saying that it disables SR and clears the archive which I don't > understand at all. He just may be able to figure it out by/for himself. If it were me, I would reinstall Avast completely, making sure it's registered and all. Then, if things shouldn't be right, uninstall it again, as you said. But it's his decision to make, as you also said. Now I must get ready for bed. Nighty Night > > > Otherwise Avast does a splendid job of protecting my System. > > I have CCleaner installed also, but use it very sparingly and > > excluding any registry fixes. > > Thank you for your explanations, Mike. > > Cheers, > -- > Mike Maltby > mike.maltby@gmail.com > >
Guest SGB Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 Re: Antivirus >>> TO: WEBSTER72N Re: Antivirus >>> TO: WEBSTER72N I took me a while to post this reply, because I had to be able to type through all the tears of laughter after I read your posts. Harry, you are so sucking up to Mike and the icing on this cake is your sentence should read "She just may be able to figure it out by/for herself. You are the one that advised me Avast was a good anti-virus program, but you neglected to give me all the details in your first post. You mentioned nothing about System Restore until later in the thread. "Heather" <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:eUduHk1FJHA.3392@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > To put this politely, don't ask Harry how to fix anything. He > specializes in breaking stuff. (G) IOW, he could quite conceivably > give you the wrong advice. > > HF I remember sometime ago, Heather stated something similar to the above. I should have kept it in mind. "If it were me, I would reinstall Avast completely, making sure it's registered and all." You go, Harry! Considering you are not qualified and ASSume wrongly, I would not place my trust in you, again. However, I take full responsibility for taking you seriously. You are way too funny. SGB "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message news:uOylpBEHJHA.1432@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > He just may be able to figure it out by/for himself. > If it were me, I would reinstall Avast completely, making sure it's > registered and all. > Then, if things shouldn't be right, uninstall it again, as you said. > But it's his decision to make, as you also said. > Now I must get ready for bed. > Nighty Night
Guest Corday Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 RE: Antivirus >>> TO: MIKE M. RE: Antivirus >>> TO: MIKE M. Read my comment on the thread CDRW Drive 9/13. I mastered Wordstar graphics! "unknown" wrote: >
Guest webster72n Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 Re: Antivirus >>> TO: WEBSTER72N Re: Antivirus >>> TO: WEBSTER72N There is nothing wrong with 'Avast' and it is quite recommendable. If you screw up your registry, it is your fault and noone else's. Mike gave you instructions on how to fix your mistake and there's no need whatsoever to 'suck up to him'. He simply has the knowledge. And 'SGB' didn't look 'female' to me, therefore the assumption, with my apologies. Regardless whether you'll listen to it or not, my recommendation is to make Avast work. To create one's own System CheckPoints doesn't present a problem at all. I should be the one laughing, but instead I'm enjoying a smooth working machine. Harry. "There is always hope in tomorrow". "SGB" <NoEmail@ThisAddress.com> wrote in message news:Os$RiqGHJHA.3928@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > I took me a while to post this reply, because I had to be able to type > through all the tears of laughter after I read your posts. > > Harry, you are so sucking up to Mike and the icing on this cake is your > sentence should read "She just may be able to figure it out by/for herself. > > You are the one that advised me Avast was a good anti-virus program, but you > neglected to give me all the details in your first post. You mentioned > nothing about System Restore until later in the thread. > > "Heather" <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote in message > news:eUduHk1FJHA.3392@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > To put this politely, don't ask Harry how to fix anything. He > > specializes in breaking stuff. (G) IOW, he could quite conceivably > > give you the wrong advice. > > > > HF > > I remember sometime ago, Heather stated something similar to the above. I > should have kept it in mind. > > "If it were me, I would reinstall Avast completely, making sure it's > registered and all." You go, Harry! > > Considering you are not qualified and ASSume wrongly, I would not place my > trust in you, again. However, I take full responsibility for taking you > seriously. You are way too funny. > > SGB > > "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:uOylpBEHJHA.1432@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > He just may be able to figure it out by/for himself. > > If it were me, I would reinstall Avast completely, making sure it's > > registered and all. > > Then, if things shouldn't be right, uninstall it again, as you said. > > But it's his decision to make, as you also said. > > Now I must get ready for bed. > > Nighty Night > > > >
Guest Arturo Seis Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 Re: Antivirus Last I heard, Joan (and I don't need it anymore, having gone for the two year three licence deal on NOD32, so haven't checked in months) is that Grisoft had extended support for 7.5 until Dec 31st. That change was too late, here, and anyway I'd never trust Grisoft again. I remember thinking, myself, that 7.5 was about to end, and that 8.0 was no longer free, thanks to the pop-up spam they sent. Others with less computer savvy than you and I bought 8.0 before finding out that a free version was still available. And, for chrissake, AVG 8.0 retail costs more than NOD32! However, Avast! is not very good. For free it is better than nothing and free or not it is better than Norton and McAfee, but it doesn't do particularly well in tests that reflect the real world. It requires responsible surfing and clicking too - but then they all do, don't they. Arturo Joan Archer wrote: > Like you it's the one that's been on that box for ages and it still > gets updated and as that machine is perhaps only turned on about once > a week to keep it up to date, I have no need to change it. > Johns XP has the free version of Avast, it was my machine and I had > NOD32 on there but took it back when I got Vista as I still had > nearly a year left, he can't have all the perks <g> > Joan > > > "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message > news:uHk#YP3FJHA.2508@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> Hi Joan, - something about 'if it ain't broke' I guess <g> >> >> But to be fair, I've nothing against Avast. It's just that I've >> never had reason to use it. I know Alias always recommends it, and >> probably justifiably so, but AVG (7.xx) had always done well on my >> WinMe boxes and as I said elsewhere, I have no reason (yet) to pull >> it. >> >> Mart >> >> >> >> "Joan Archer" <archer_joan@nospam.com> wrote in message >> news:ubgTqK1FJHA.3392@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>> That's the version on my WinME machine as well Mart. ;) >>> Joan >>> >>> -- >>> Joan Archer >>> http://www.freewebs.com/crossstitcher >>> http://lachsoft.com/photogallery >>> >>> "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message >>> news:eq6LyMdFJHA.3744@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>> AVG 7.5 is still running and regularly updating on my WinMe boxes, >>>> without any nag screens. No sign though, for how much longer. >>>> >>>> Mart >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "SGB" <NoEmail@ThisAddress.com> wrote in message >>>> news:uGSVg1aFJHA.5484@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>> Being it is September 2008, what would be the best anti-virus >>>>> program/version for Windows ME? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks in advance! >>>>> SGB
Guest Joan Archer Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 Re: Antivirus Thanks Shane, I haven't bothered looking but as I said that machine is only really turned on about once a week to keep it up to date so will keep an eye out for when it finishes being updated and find another one for WinME. The machine does get used occasionally by John when he wants to transfer photo's from Photobucket to one of his forums, the guinea pig ones, so I do have to make sure it works OK <g> Hope your OK I'll give you a ring sometime soon for a chat ;) -- Joan Archer http://www.freewebs.com/crossstitcher http://lachsoft.com/photogallery "Arturo Seis" <sixpencedearturo@googlemail.com> wrote in message news:u7mbLKUHJHA.2408@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Last I heard, Joan (and I don't need it anymore, having gone for the two > year three licence deal on NOD32, so haven't checked in months) is that > Grisoft had extended support for 7.5 until Dec 31st. That change was too > late, here, and anyway I'd never trust Grisoft again. I remember thinking, > myself, that 7.5 was about to end, and that 8.0 was no longer free, thanks > to the pop-up spam they sent. Others with less computer savvy than you and > I > bought 8.0 before finding out that a free version was still available. > And, > for chrissake, AVG 8.0 retail costs more than NOD32! > > However, Avast! is not very good. For free it is better than nothing and > free or not it is better than Norton and McAfee, but it doesn't do > particularly well in tests that reflect the real world. It requires > responsible surfing and clicking too - but then they all do, don't they. > > Arturo > > > > > Joan Archer wrote: >> Like you it's the one that's been on that box for ages and it still >> gets updated and as that machine is perhaps only turned on about once >> a week to keep it up to date, I have no need to change it. >> Johns XP has the free version of Avast, it was my machine and I had >> NOD32 on there but took it back when I got Vista as I still had >> nearly a year left, he can't have all the perks <g> >> Joan >> >> >> "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message >> news:uHk#YP3FJHA.2508@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>> Hi Joan, - something about 'if it ain't broke' I guess <g> >>> >>> But to be fair, I've nothing against Avast. It's just that I've >>> never had reason to use it. I know Alias always recommends it, and >>> probably justifiably so, but AVG (7.xx) had always done well on my >>> WinMe boxes and as I said elsewhere, I have no reason (yet) to pull >>> it. >>> >>> Mart >>> >>> >>> >>> "Joan Archer" <archer_joan@nospam.com> wrote in message >>> news:ubgTqK1FJHA.3392@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>> That's the version on my WinME machine as well Mart. ;) >>>> Joan >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Joan Archer >>>> http://www.freewebs.com/crossstitcher >>>> http://lachsoft.com/photogallery >>>> >>>> "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message >>>> news:eq6LyMdFJHA.3744@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>> AVG 7.5 is still running and regularly updating on my WinMe boxes, >>>>> without any nag screens. No sign though, for how much longer. >>>>> >>>>> Mart >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "SGB" <NoEmail@ThisAddress.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:uGSVg1aFJHA.5484@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>> Being it is September 2008, what would be the best anti-virus >>>>>> program/version for Windows ME? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks in advance! >>>>>> SGB > >
Guest Arturo Seis Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 Re: Antivirus Joan Archer wrote: > Thanks Shane, I haven't bothered looking but as I said that machine > is only really turned on about once a week to keep it up to date so I deleted it here (though not for the first time, much in the same way Bilbo wished he was back in his comfy hobbit hole). I just wish I could remember for once and for all that I *don't need Millennium any more!* Truth to tell the main reason I reinstall it, when I do, is I did so much work on the Real Mode I think I ought to keep it handy (though I have it on Memory Stick anyway, so that argument falls flat). I do get to run the 9x NOD32, which feels worth doing *because I can*... > will keep an eye out for when it finishes being updated and find > another one for WinME. The machine does get used occasionally by John > when he wants to transfer photo's from Photobucket to one of his > forums, the guinea pig ones, so I do have to make sure it works OK <g> > Hope your OK I'll give you a ring sometime soon for a chat ;) > Catch you later! > > "Arturo Seis" <sixpencedearturo@googlemail.com> wrote in message > news:u7mbLKUHJHA.2408@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> Last I heard, Joan (and I don't need it anymore, having gone for the >> two year three licence deal on NOD32, so haven't checked in months) >> is that Grisoft had extended support for 7.5 until Dec 31st. That >> change was too late, here, and anyway I'd never trust Grisoft again. >> I remember thinking, myself, that 7.5 was about to end, and that 8.0 >> was no longer free, thanks to the pop-up spam they sent. Others with >> less computer savvy than you and I >> bought 8.0 before finding out that a free version was still >> available. And, >> for chrissake, AVG 8.0 retail costs more than NOD32! >> >> However, Avast! is not very good. For free it is better than nothing >> and free or not it is better than Norton and McAfee, but it doesn't >> do particularly well in tests that reflect the real world. It >> requires responsible surfing and clicking too - but then they all >> do, don't they. Arturo >> >> >> >> >> Joan Archer wrote: >>> Like you it's the one that's been on that box for ages and it still >>> gets updated and as that machine is perhaps only turned on about >>> once a week to keep it up to date, I have no need to change it. >>> Johns XP has the free version of Avast, it was my machine and I had >>> NOD32 on there but took it back when I got Vista as I still had >>> nearly a year left, he can't have all the perks <g> >>> Joan >>> >>> >>> "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message >>> news:uHk#YP3FJHA.2508@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>> Hi Joan, - something about 'if it ain't broke' I guess <g> >>>> >>>> But to be fair, I've nothing against Avast. It's just that I've >>>> never had reason to use it. I know Alias always recommends it, and >>>> probably justifiably so, but AVG (7.xx) had always done well on my >>>> WinMe boxes and as I said elsewhere, I have no reason (yet) to pull >>>> it. >>>> >>>> Mart >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "Joan Archer" <archer_joan@nospam.com> wrote in message >>>> news:ubgTqK1FJHA.3392@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>>> That's the version on my WinME machine as well Mart. ;) >>>>> Joan >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Joan Archer >>>>> http://www.freewebs.com/crossstitcher >>>>> http://lachsoft.com/photogallery >>>>> >>>>> "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message >>>>> news:eq6LyMdFJHA.3744@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>> AVG 7.5 is still running and regularly updating on my WinMe >>>>>> boxes, without any nag screens. No sign though, for how much >>>>>> longer. Mart >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "SGB" <NoEmail@ThisAddress.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:uGSVg1aFJHA.5484@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> Being it is September 2008, what would be the best anti-virus >>>>>>> program/version for Windows ME? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks in advance! >>>>>>> SGB
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