SP3 sucess/Failure Stats

[Guest marx404]

I have always been one who believes in a 6 month moratorium on major

non-critical updates, I refer to this gestation period as the "Final Beta

Stage" or "Guinea-Pig Phase" and calmly read about other's experiences whom

rush to install the latest and greatest with all the vigor expected of any

excited guinea-pig. From what I have collected is that SP3 will not be a

necessity until updates that require it in the future. I have also seen many

a post whereupon single PC owners have experienced slow-down due to

inadequate system resources or hardware/software incompatibilities which

were not present in SP2 but are not inherent in SP3.

 

I have to laugh at the "not me's" out there that have deployed SP3 across a

domain of cloned corporate OS'es and declare "not me" that all is well, hmm,

if it will work fine on the first clone, than why shouldn't it work well on

all clones? Ditto and kudos to the guy who has also successfully installed

after managing to find the time to memorize every vital KB tidbit and

properly prepare for it. You, yes, you, go sit in the corner, you already

passed the test. This conversation isn't for you, it's for the rest of us

poor bastards.

 

My point is what are the true stats of Success vs. Failure on individual

home end-users? and other than what I have already stated, is there more of

a risk of blindly installing SP3 with a "let's see what happens" mentality

and less of that warm-safe feeling we all had when installing SP2?

 

Personally, I have not seen so much trouble with an OS upgrade since the Win

'98 Upgrade CD fiasco and will not envision installing SP3 on my home

computers until I too have that old comfortable "warm safe" feeling that all

will be ok and functional after installation.

 

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[Guest Jim]

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"marx404" <404@404.com> wrote in message

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> Personally, I have not seen so much trouble with an OS upgrade since the

> Win '98 Upgrade CD fiasco and will not envision installing SP3 on my home

> computers until I too have that old comfortable "warm safe" feeling that

> all will be ok and functional after installation.

>

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You must not remember all the trouble that many people had with SP2.

I haven't upgraded either one of mine because the desktop is very long in

the tooth (it will be gone sometime next year) and I have another year to

upgrade the laptop.

Of course, you see lots of problems with major upgrades such as this. Only

people with difficulties need to post their troubles.

Jim

[Guest Jim]

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>> Personally, I have not seen so much trouble with an OS upgrade since the

>> Win '98 Upgrade CD fiasco and will not envision installing SP3 on my home

>> computers until I too have that old comfortable "warm safe" feeling that

>> all will be ok and functional after installation.

>>

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>> marx404

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> You must not remember all the trouble that many people had with SP2.

> I haven't upgraded either one of mine because the desktop is very long in

> the tooth (it will be gone sometime next year) and I have another year to

> upgrade the laptop.

> Of course, you see lots of problems with major upgrades such as this.

> Only people with difficulties need to post their troubles.

> Jim

>

Besides, since I will be 80 when support for SP2 dies, I may not need to

install SP3.

Jim

[Guest Galen Somerville]

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>>> Personally, I have not seen so much trouble with an OS upgrade since the

>>> Win '98 Upgrade CD fiasco and will not envision installing SP3 on my

>>> home computers until I too have that old comfortable "warm safe" feeling

>>> that all will be ok and functional after installation.

>>>

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>>> marx404

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>>>

>> You must not remember all the trouble that many people had with SP2.

>> I haven't upgraded either one of mine because the desktop is very long in

>> the tooth (it will be gone sometime next year) and I have another year to

>> upgrade the laptop.

>> Of course, you see lots of problems with major upgrades such as this.

>> Only people with difficulties need to post their troubles.

>> Jim

>>

> Besides, since I will be 80 when support for SP2 dies, I may not need to

> install SP3.

> Jim

>

I'm already 80 and have put Sp3 on my three computers without a hitch.

 

Galen

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The only people with SP3 installation problems are those with a lot of

useless non-Microsoft programs.

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>>>> Personally, I have not seen so much trouble with an OS upgrade since

>>>> the Win '98 Upgrade CD fiasco and will not envision installing SP3 on

>>>> my home computers until I too have that old comfortable "warm safe"

>>>> feeling that all will be ok and functional after installation.

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> marx404

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>>>> _________________

>>>>

>>> You must not remember all the trouble that many people had with SP2.

>>> I haven't upgraded either one of mine because the desktop is very long

>>> in the tooth (it will be gone sometime next year) and I have another

>>> year to upgrade the laptop.

>>> Of course, you see lots of problems with major upgrades such as this.

>>> Only people with difficulties need to post their troubles.

>>> Jim

>>>

>> Besides, since I will be 80 when support for SP2 dies, I may not need to

>> install SP3.

>> Jim

>>

> I'm already 80 and have put Sp3 on my three computers without a hitch.

>

> Galen

>

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[Guest PA Bear [MS MVP]]

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Hardly anyone posts to a newsgroup or forum to say they installed WinXP SP3

and haven't had a lick of problems since.

 

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marx404 wrote:

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> Personally, I have not seen so much trouble with an OS upgrade since...

[Guest Jim]

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"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message

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> Hardly anyone posts to a newsgroup or forum to say they installed WinXP

> SP3 and haven't had a lick of problems since.

>

Agreed. What we see in this newsgroup (among many others) is a self

selecting subset of the population of all XP users. Self selecting subsets

can never be representative of the whole population.

All you can really say is that 100% of the people who have had problems,

have problems..

Jim

[Guest Jim]

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>>> "marx404" <404@404.com> wrote in message

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>>> <snip>

>>>>

>>>> Personally, I have not seen so much trouble with an OS upgrade since

>>>> the Win '98 Upgrade CD fiasco and will not envision installing SP3 on

>>>> my home computers until I too have that old comfortable "warm safe"

>>>> feeling that all will be ok and functional after installation.

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> marx404

>>>> <all gmail posts blocked>

>>>> _________________

>>>>

>>> You must not remember all the trouble that many people had with SP2.

>>> I haven't upgraded either one of mine because the desktop is very long

>>> in the tooth (it will be gone sometime next year) and I have another

>>> year to upgrade the laptop.

>>> Of course, you see lots of problems with major upgrades such as this.

>>> Only people with difficulties need to post their troubles.

>>> Jim

>>>

>> Besides, since I will be 80 when support for SP2 dies, I may not need to

>> install SP3.

>> Jim

>>

> I'm already 80 and have put Sp3 on my three computers without a hitch.

>

> Galen

>

>

Actually, I intended to install SP3 on my laptop a couple of weeks ago. But

I have been too busy dodging hurricanes to worry about such mundane tasks as

this.

I have decided not to touch the desktop because it is a bit too long in the

tooth and may disappear next spring.

Jim

[Guest Anteaus]

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Having had some experience in the retail industry before branching into IT, I

think this highlights an issue for anyone working on a helpdesk or repair

facility, which sometimes gives a distorted impression of the reliability of

products.

 

Firstly, it is a truism that you tend not to hear of the good products, only

the ones that go wrong.

 

Secondly, you are bound to see more examples of popular products that have

gone wrong than of niche-market products that have gone wrong. Yet, the

percentage of popular products which fail may actually be less, even though

the numbers are higher. This may give the false impression that the popular

products are less reliable than the niche-market ones.

 

This may certainly have some effect on perceived reliability of Windows,

Linux and Mac computers. Macs in particular are such a small market that the

total number of support-incidents must be far less. This may create an

impression that they are more reliable than is actually the case.

 

Another factor which biases reliability-stats is the question of whether the

user thinks a product is worth repairing. You may see more new, quality-brand

stuff coming in for repair than older or budget stuff. This does not

necessarily mean that the new quality stuff is less reliable, it may instead

relate to whether the owner thinks it worthwhile to pay a repair charge.

 

 

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> Hardly anyone posts to a newsgroup or forum to say they installed WinXP SP3

> and haven't had a lick of problems since.

>

[Guest Plato]

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marx404 wrote:

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> Personally, I have not seen so much trouble with an OS upgrade since the Win

> '98 Upgrade CD fiasco and will not envision installing SP3 on my home

> computers until I too have that old comfortable "warm safe" feeling that all

> will be ok and functional after installation.

 

Or, until you need it. No need to get the latest release of XP unless

you NEED it.

 

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[Guest marx404]

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Please Define "a lot of useless non-Microsoft programs". I have as many M$

apps as I do M$ apps, does this insinuate that installing SP3 will break

them or cause compatibility issues? Please define in a useful manner.

 

"Galen Somerville" <galen@community.nospam> wrote in message

 

 

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[Guest Unknown]

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Items like registry cleaners, Symantec items, Zone Alarm, Norton programs

etc.

Your second sentence makes no sense.

"marx404" <404@404.com> wrote in message

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> Please Define "a lot of useless non-Microsoft programs". I have as many M$

> apps as I do M$ apps, does this insinuate that installing SP3 will break

> them or cause compatibility issues? Please define in a useful manner.

>

> "Galen Somerville" <galen@community.nospam> wrote in message

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